Managing Your Finances Together

This is the Chip Ingram Sermon Podcast. Brought to you by Living on the Edge. In this podcast, you'll hear Chip's teaching unedited and from beginning to end. Here's Chip Ingram with today's teaching, Managing Your Finances Together. If you'll pull out your notes, skill number four is how to biblically manage your finances together.

The number one source of conflict and divorce in America is issues and problems around money. And really it's the symptom as we learned. It's different values, different priorities, different styles. Almost every marriage has a spender and a saver. Different family backgrounds.

Your whole view of money, wealth, spending, saving, investing, risk. You grew up in a family and it's in your thinking, it's in your nerves, and you just have preconceived ideas about those things. And then some of you, because of circumstance or situations, entered your marriage with debt or challenges or have had huge hardships that have created financial problems. All I'm saying is all that does is this, it creates incredible pressure. Just incredible pressure.

And incredible pressure brings things to the surface where because we're human, we figure out primarily how to blame the other person.

Okay, you still have your passage? We're still in Colossians 3. 12 through um 17.

So, in context, here it says, As those who have been chosen of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, patience. Bearing with one another and forgiving each other whoever has a complaint against anyone, just as the Lord forgave you, so also should you. Beyond all these things, put on love, which is the perfect bond of unity, and let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called into one body, and be thankful. The very first line says, this is how God sees you, this is who you are. What I just read after that is this is what we're to do in our relationships.

And then notice verse 16 is a resource. Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you. How? With all wisdom. That means at the right time, at the right way, sharing it for the right purposes, teaching and admonishing one another.

Waha, with truth, psalms, hymns, spiritual songs, and then this idea of, regardless of our circumstance, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And then in verse 17, he's going to say, This is how I want you to behave. Whatever you do in word or deed, Now just pause for a moment. Can you think of anything that's outside of word or deed? Thought.

That's good. Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father. The command here is that all of our words and all of our actions are be done in Jesus' name. And in Jesus' name, simply means two things. It means you do it as a representative of Him.

So I'm speaking, or I'm behaving, or I'm acting as His representative. And it also has the idea of being empowered by him to speak whatever he wants you to speak or to do whatever he wants you to do. The two most accurate mirrors of our heart and our lives are our words. and our money. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart Jesus said in Luke 6, Verse 45 brings forth what is good, and the evil man or the evil woman.

Out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil, for the mouth speaks from that which fills the heart. If you ever want to know where you're at, the MRI of your soul. I mean, I can intend, I can think, I can lift my hands, I can sing, I can say I love God, but my words. My words reveal. What's really in my heart?

And that's why our speech is so important. Anytime that's true, the other thing is your words, you can go into training so that. You deal with issues so that what comes out of your mouth reveals what you want to be in your heart. The second greatest revealer is our money. Jesus said, Do not stir up yourself.

Underline in your notes if you would. for yourself. Treasures on earth were moth and rust. destroy and where thieves break in and steal. Why?

Why would he say that? He doesn't want you to have nice things. He wants to keep something from you. What's true about moth, rust, and thieves. They can take it away.

In other words, it's vulnerable. But store up, now underline again, will you, for yourself. This is for your benefit. Treasures in heaven. Where neither moth nor rust can destroy, and where thieves do not break in.

And then here's the purpose clause. Why? For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Wherever, if you want to know. I mean, if you really wanted to know, Lord, how am I really doing from heaven, all pretense, what anyone else thinks, in my own denial, in the deceitfulness of my own heart, if I really wanted to know where am I really at?

If I took a tape recorder and listened to my words for a week and then sat down and listened to it, the tone of voice, the anger, the sarcasm, the hurt, the swearing, the thanks, the praise, I would get a really good idea. of what's in my heart. That would be a pretty challenging thing to do. A little bit easier way, if you would take all your financial statements, all your credit cards and see where you all your money was spent in the last year or two years or three years or four years. what you saved and why you saved it.

And where you gave money, both formally and informally, it would tell you more about your life. Then Almost anything you could imagine. Because wherever Your treasure is That's where your heart really is. That's why Jesus talked more about money than heaven and hell combined. He doesn't need or want our money.

In fact, I bet I was a pastor for 10 years. And I thought life was like this: there's Jesus, right? There's the Godhead. And then there's the enemy, Satan. That's not what the Bible teaches.

Jesus says there's two gods. There's God. And there's mammon. Wealth, greed, money promises to do everything. Money promises to protect, provide, make you a someone.

Jesus said, This is one God, this is the other God. Satan is just the enemy to get you to believe that that will deliver. And the world system is created to tell you your possessions, your power, your fame, what you can buy, what people think, that makes you a somebody.

So Jesus says, money isn't neutral. He says it's powerful, it's deceptive. It's not bad in and of itself. But it's the other God. And so If you want to know what's going on in your life or if you want to direct your life.

Money is a revealer. And my experience is, you know, I'll own it. First few years I was a pastor, I didn't talk much about money. A lot of pastors don't talk much about money, or if they do, it's about giving, right? or about a capital campaign or about a building or a bus that we need.

And what you need to do is you need to study the whole counsel of God on money. I read through all of Proverbs a number of times and I took a green pen and anytime money in any way came up in Proverbs, I highlighted it in green. You'll go, are you kidding? Because what you're going to find out, it's so fundamental. Let me give you a very brief overview of biblical finances.

And I mean, I'm going to go really quick. And I'm only going to give this because this is the context in which I'm speaking. And it's the context, in my experience, most Christians don't have. Money is sort of like a side thing over here. It's a problem to deal with.

It's like, you know, we know we need some money, or the matter of giving is sort of like, well, maybe there's some law, and you know, I'm supposed to give 10% and either begrudgingly or semi-begrudgingly, it's like paying a bill, and I should do that because I was taught to. And the whole teaching of generosity in your heart and the purpose and how money fits into the development of your spiritual life, in my experience, is often missed.

So what the Bible teaches, and I mean quick overview, is that God owns it all. The earth is mine, Psalm 50. And the fullness thereof. Every good and perfect gift, James, comes from God. Second, we're stewards, managers, and trustees, Luke 16.

You don't own anything. You don't have a car, you don't have a home, you don't have any investments, you don't own anything. It's 100% him. What do you have, the apostle said, except what you have received? And so my money, my house, my investments, my wife, my children, I'm a steward.

And a steward or a manager is someone who is entrusted with certain things to make good use of them for their master. That changes your whole world. That means, okay, the market goes up or the market goes down. Lord, you're losing a lot of your money right now.

Well, we laugh. People have been jumping off of buildings and off of bridges. Anxiety, depression, fear. Overwhelmed. The American view of money, we are living the last 50 years, 70 years, we're living in America with a level of affluence that only the greatest kings in all the world ever experienced historically.

And yet Um In this affluent world, we have more anxiety, more suicides, and more problems than I could take you to multiple third world countries where they have very little and the people are very happy and no one's taking drugs. The most recent research, but now, by the way, when you're in abject poverty or you're really poor, there's financial issues, does money solve all your problems? No, but it sure helps. And what the secular researchers say is that basically right up to about $75,000 to $85,000, if you're below that in the current economy, if you get in about that area and without debt, money really helps. And all the dollars after that is sort of diminishing returns in terms of quality of life.

The saddest, most miserable. Um most problems in families. and all my life have been the wealthiest people that I know. And what's so ironic, I sit with them and I talk with them and they talk about their second or their third marriage or their daughter's suicide or the anxiety and their enablement of their kids. Because when you're really wealthy, it's hard to say no to your kids, it's hard to set boundaries, it's hard to teach them responsibility.

And so, really, really, the only people that have more messed up kids in all the world, by the way, this was a study done by an insurance company, is the poorest of the poor of the poor, like living in the ghetto and the ultimate rich. And what they measured is treatment centers and all the rest. Why? Because money money can't solve the problems. In fact, It creates incredible entitlement.

Lack of responsibility. We'll give an account for our stewardship. God, according to how he's made you and purposes, has given us all different talents. different resources. And I'll give an account of what I do with his money, what I do with his time.

I had a card for years that I wrote down. You know, I do this thing a lot with my thinking. I mean, I really believe as a man thinks in his heart, so he becomes the mindset on the flesh, death, the mindset on the spirit, life and peace. Set your mind on the things above. I'm absolutely, I mean, I'm like over the top on, boy, what comes into my mind, there's a huge filter, and what I put into my mind, because life change happens not by behavior or emotions or trying hard.

Life change happens first and foremost. You renew your mind and as you think differently, all of a sudden that's not a temptation because it doesn't look very good. You think differently and emotionally things change because the news is like poison. And the more and more I watch of news and people being blown up and these people hate these people and those people, then what it does is it creates all kind of things inside. You know, ask a teenage girl.

The more you're on social media, the higher the anxiety, the higher the social suicide rate. And so I keep aware of what's going on, but I'm real careful about what I let in my mind. And then what I know is that. When I struggle with areas, I've got to change my thinking. Coming from my background, giving away money and being generous did not come naturally.

My dad grew up out of the Depression. His parents' farm was sold out from under him. That's a picture that he remembers. He took me as a little boy to the bank every single week, and I did yards and did things, and you put in savings. And so that was embedded in me.

And so I had a card that I wrote: Lord, I desire to be more generous with my time and my money. this year. And I would just read it over. I just read it over, read it over, read it over, read it over, and I just found... There were opportunities.

They were probably always there. But I noticed them, and I would be a little bit more generous, and then a little bit more generous. And then I reviewed that card for like five years. And then I was... But studying and I just realized That's not accurate.

That's wrong, Chip.

So I put an X through the card in certain places. God, I desire to be more generous with your money and your time this year. And that's what I just realized. Whatever I've got in my pocket, whatever I've got in the bank account, whatever kind of car, whatever I have, it's yours, and I'm going to give an account for it. Money is powerful and deceptive.

Mark 4, you know, the parables of the seed and the sower, right? The seed is God's word, it goes into the earth. You know. The hard soil, Satan takes it away. The shallow soil, it grows up, but persecution and difficulty fades away.

The thorny soil, It grows up. And then the desires of this word and the deceitfulness of riches choke out God's Word. By the way, the deceitfulness of riches. You do understand the word deceit means this. When you are deceived, you don't know it.

And we now live in a Christian worldview where We all have certain issues. That we all sin, that we've decided let's have a few acceptable sins. and we'll give all each other a pass on them. I've been in a number of men's groups where, you know, we all struggle with porn, but let's try and be more porn-like.

Well, that's really not one of the options. Or, you know, I know it's not very wise, but everyone has a lot of debt, and everyone gossips a little bit about people when you meet in those groups. And, you know, we all struggle with that. Therefore, it must be okay, and we sort of gradually give ourselves permission to have. Um The sacred cow of materialism.

Oh, all the other Christians I know, I mean, they have always got the latest phone and the latest TV and the latest that. Where do they have the money? No, but they've got these cards. And it's pretty cool. You just put them on these cards.

And you know, you only have to pay like $11 or $22 or $33 each payment. And pay, you know. $944 for that $300 TV over five years. But you don't think about what a secret. It's God's money.

Am I saying it's wrong to use a credit card? No. I have credit cards. I pay them off every 30 days. But I'm just saying there's radical thoughts about money.

And the subtlety and deception of money is It takes you down a path. It's like being in water where you go out. If you've ever been at the peach, you know, and you're having fun, and you got the sand, and if you have a family, you got a couple kids here, and you got the blankets, and you're going to have lunch and stuff. And they go out and play, and you're playing, and then you're playing, and you're playing, and nothing happened, but the current's doing this, and you look up and you realize, Molly Lance, how do we get down? I mean, our, hey, where's mom and dad?

Where's. That's what happens to us with regard to money. Money is the other God according to Jesus. We can't serve both, Matthew 6. Giving is God's antidote to greed.

and the dangers of idol worship, We're commanded Instruct those who are rich in this present world, and biblically that's all of us. not to be conceited or fix their hope on the uncertainty of money or wealth. Notice that's the reason. Because it's uncertain. He wants to protect us.

But fix their hope on God, who richly supplies us with all things to Enjoy. In other words, when your priorities are right, when it comes from God, He's gracious and kind and loving, so you're not overwhelmed in debt. You're not compensating by buying things or going places you really can't afford. Your priorities are right, and He says, Don't fix your hope here on the one hand, so you want to be generous and be wise. And then when He blesses, you don't have to say, Well, the reason we have a swimming pool is we're doing baptisms for the youth group.

Where you know that mission trip You know, that we're taking. Two. New Zealand. in Hawaii You know what? If you want to go to Hawaii and the Lord has blessed your life and your priorities in order, here's what you ought to do: enjoy it.

If God gives you a swimming pool and your pridory is in order and He's led you in that way and maybe it's especially great for the season of your kids, why don't you enjoy it? But what we do is we play lots of games. God wants us to richly enjoy all that He's given us and at the same time realize that thing, that wealth, that idol wants to take over your soul. Debt is dangerous and to be avoided. I think the best counselors I know say it's, you know.

It's not wrong to have some debt. Appreciable items, it's way better not to have any. and we're to be accurately aware of our financial condition.

Now, this would be interesting. I will not do this because I would not want to embarrass anyone. But if I could, if you all lined up and I could meet with couples, couples, couples, couples, and then I would just, okay, separate earphones so. She couldn't hear, he couldn't hear. And I would ask the man, in general, how much debt do you have?

How much money do you have in savings? How much is on your credit cards? How much short-term, long-term, or any investments that you have? I mean, just a ballpark. I don't want the exact numbers, but.

You're aware of basically your finances. What I would find in most couples, one person would have a vague idea and the other would be like, He takes care of all that or she takes care of all that. Or they would both fumble around a lot and not have a very accurate. The Bible says, know well the condition of your flock. You need to know this is our level of debt.

Currently, right now, this is how much we've set aside for an emergency. This is a fund that we've developed for, we're saving for the next car that we're going to buy because we want to pay cash. This is what we're doing in terms of long-term and investment or retirement. And you kind of know where you're at. And by the way, I hear body language.

Can I? I'm talking really fast. I'm going to pause for a minute. The reason you're feeling the way you're feeling is because of the deceitfulness of riches. Do you realize 50% Of all the people that graduate from college, I read a statistic.

File bankruptcy? You know, you go to college, they give you a t-shirt, here's a credit card. But by the time they're out, there's literally, we have a whole generation, some Christian, some non-Christian, that they think this is money. I remember one of my grandkids, we were taking them out for something and we're having a pizza or something like that. You know, they're six, seven, eight, nine, ten at the time.

And we were here. And, oh, do you want to get something like that? And I said, oh, I don't have my wallet. I said, I don't know what to do. And one of my, I forget, one of my grandkids says, oh, just use one of those cards.

In other words, it wasn't, you don't need money. There was no connection between money and a card. But here's okay, okay.

Now I'm going to be really, really gentle here. If you want to get hold of your life, If you want to get hold of your values, If you want to get hold of your future, You have to get a hold of your money. In your time in your thought life. If you do not get a hold of your money, it will get a hold of you. and despite your best intentions, it will take you places you do not want to go.

If you don't get a hold of your thought life, you can intend, you can try, you can want to, you can plead, but you are the product of your thoughts. It's how God made us. Your emotions are a response to your thoughts. Much of your behavior, instead of being intellectually based, oh, this is logical, this is what I ought to do, is that what we do? Like, I'm feeling kind of down, I'm feeling kind of blue.

Oh, it's really logical, don't go to the refrigerator, so I won't. What do we do? We eat. We spend. We shop.

We go. We vacation. There are only five uses of money. I got this from Ron Blue. You can give it away.

You can pay taxes with it. You can save it, you can pay off debt. or you can live off of it. And when I say savings, I mean savings as in short-term emergency fund. which I find most people don't have.

But then there's sort of a mid-range savings where Um you know, we set aside X amount so that when we get the tax bill, we don't go, oh.

So, you know, every paycheck, a little bit goes in for the tax. We have a game plan. At our age and our stage, we wanted to help our grandkids.

So we set aside some where we started a little fund for their college. We wanted to visit our grandkids and stay connected and when they all grow and go different places, about 15 years ago we called it a kid fun. Because, you know. And by the way, it's not like we had a lot of money to put in these things, but the discipline of creating where you want your money to go creates an intention. And so, but the point is.

Do you plan and do you segment your dollars so that what I knew was at the end of the day. What's going to be valuable? I want to be connected to my grown kids. I want to have at least every two years a window of time where those little kids grow up and they remember being on the boat with granddad and grandma and aunts and uncles and cousins and did it cost a lot of money? Yeah.

But I saved for it for two years. I don't have a ton of money in retirement, but I've got a plan that lines out that.

Well, at 65, I said, I don't have anything in the Bible about retirement. I want to be used by God. I'm not trying to figure out. I mean, I've met these guys that their whole life was, boy, maybe by 56 I can retire and play golf.

Now, personally, I like to play golf. But I think Pleasure is a great vacation. It's a bad vocation. Pleasure is a great tour guide. It's a great tour guide.

Ah, that's. Have some fun. It is a terrible destination. I can't deliver. Financial freedom requires, and please don't laugh, spending less than one's income.

If you add up all your expenses This month. or in the last year. Are your expenses more than the money that came in? And if so, do you understand that's a fundamental problem? The government can do that.

You can't. I mean, they can just say, hey, let's print some more money. Unfortunately, we will all end up paying for all that. one way or another. And so the lie is that What we need is we need more income.

And so often, well, it's a second job, or we'll do this, we'll do this.

Well, then your priorities get out of whack.

Now are there times for second job? Man, of course. But but the By and large, your need is not more money. Your needs to adjust your spending to your income. And your income needs to flow out of not What are all the things that we think we need?

But see, you got to go back to this is who we want to be. This is God's call on our life. This is what's important for our marriage. This is what's important if you have children or grandchildren. These are our goals.

And then, okay, we're going to give first and foremost because we're going to declare that money will not be our God. Before we do anything else, I'm going to make my offering to God. Second is, I'm going to obey the government, so I'm going to set aside, I'm going to pay my taxes. Then I'm going to say, what do we need to live on? But before we do, even if it's small, we're going to set aside some money to save.

And then you're saying, if I do all that, I'm not going to have much left. You're right.

So do you need to lease a car that's $500 a month? Do you need cable and Netflix and this and that? Do you need to eat out seven, eight, nine times a month? That's just what happens.

Now you you're thinking. Guys, you're talking about a completely altered lifestyle. It's called freedom. It's called joy. B Borrower is always a slave of the lender.

And you just get into bondage. And it starts small and then it mushrooms. And so all I'm saying is that that's the principle. You have to spend less. Then what comes in?

Often money is not the problem, as we talked about, it's often just the symptom. Money solves emotional and relational problems short term by compensation. A lot of parents buy stuff for their kids because they feel guilty. They're not spending quality time with them. We buy gifts for one another or we say silly things like, you know, it's really been a rocky time in our marriage, so let's just go to Hawaii.

I mean, we're only $60,000 in debt. Plus another ten. I mean, the logic goes like that. There's a way that seems right to a man. Proverbs 14, 12.

There's a way that seems right to a woman. But the end thereof is death. And what is common for other people is Death. For you. The fact that they do it is the fact that you're going to see people whose marriages don't work, whose kids are entitled.

Who's Trajectory of their life is the opposite of what you want. And yet If you did some real hard evaluation, at some level or maybe more than you would like, or maybe you're in the deep end of the pool. And you just realize this money thing is really the thing that's causing depressure. How do you solve the money problem? It has to begin with: it's our problem that we will solve, right?

We're going to do this together. Because once the pressure happens, what do we do? It's her. Or whoever is the spender, especially, right? It's him.

You know, I can't believe he bought new golf clubs. I can't believe she went shopping and did this, blah, blah, blah. I can't believe, blah, blah, I can't believe, and so you blame. Either win, win, or lose, lose. Second, then assessment.

instead of blaming. You will need to get prayed up. and then say, let's sit down and see where we're at financially. We would so we both know. This is how much actually comes in.

This is how much we pay in taxes. This is how much total debt we have in every area, long-term, short-term, credit card. This is how much we give. This is, I've done this many times in Season of Marriage. For 30 days, and it's easier on your phone, there's probably apps that do it now.

For 30 days, Theresa and I would say, we're going to track every dollar we spend for 30 days just to find out. And spend, just be normal, but just track it. It's crazy. Just by tracking it, you start spending less. And then you track it and you find: okay, this is how much on groceries, this is how much on going out to eat, this much on recreation, this much on clothes, this much, and all of a sudden what you see is.

In your mind, it's we don't have enough money to get by. And when you see where it actually goes, you'll go. Can you believe we spent $142 on Starbucks? I'm just telling you, we have patterns. And and here God's not mad.

But those patterns, right? Those paths There's a destination. And I just want you to know, the destination that a great majority of Christians, and maybe a lot of you, are on, it's not where you want to be.

So you sit down and you'll notice the worksheet. Is I've just kind of taken what other really smart people in finance, you know, in an honest appraisal and And there's a confession. Here's where you start. Lord, we are messed up with our money. A correction, Lord, we are messed up with your money.

And since it's your money, we're going to repent. And then second, we want to have a clear conscience. We we we we want Not just our words, not just our thoughts, not just our actions. We want our money to be a reflection that we're living in a way that's pleasing to you. You do.

You do understand. God longs to bless you.

Now, this is no prosperity stuff, but he wants to bless you financially. Most Christians are not in a position to be blessed financially. You have high debt and you don't give much and you're not very generous. God sees two kinds of people, dams and streams. When he finds a stream, that means it comes, you get it, you know it's his, and it flows in you, you enjoy it, and it flows through you, and you help lots of people in lots of ways.

God He just keeps filling streams. There's others that are dams. It comes and hits you, and you think it's yours. And you know, the water goes down because of debt, and then you spend some stuff you don't have, and it produces a lot of pressure. Oh, God help!

He goes, well, I mean. Yeah. You're going to do the same thing with it. Actually, I need you to hit bottom so you would like look at each other and go, we can't keep living this way financially.

So it's always out of his love. And then there's principles here, you know, about a budget and how to do it and do it together and establishing. These are all the basic principles of finances. Resolving to get out of debt. developing a plan and a time frame.

Many of you, just like in other areas, you'll need someone from the outside. You know, financial counselor. Lots of churches now are doing some really good things with this. And then explore creative means to reduce spending and living costs. And then just say, Lord, we want to obey you.

One of the things that we did after we You know, found out how much we were spending and all, then we developed, you know, a budget sounds so harsh, doesn't it? I mean it just sounds like Budgets.

So, what we did is when we came up with, okay, this is where we want to be, and this is what we can afford.

Okay, we gave. We paid our taxes, we saved, at least just mostly the principal, probably won't do a whole lot of good, but we started there and it kept growing.

Now we have this much money left. Then what we did is we said, okay. Um groceries, and literally. We went to the bank, we got cash. Uh okay, family of six.

Okay, $320. Put that in an envelope that says groceries. Recreation. We do want to go out a little bit. We want to do this.

We want to do that. Right now. $80 for this month. That goes another envelope. And we just, we had like five envelopes and you'll you'll see how to do that.

And When the envelopes were empty Guess we're not going to Starbucks. Guess we're not going out to eat the employees. And so we lived on a cash basis. And we just, and it can be different amounts. But you would be shocked how your debt will come down, your freedom will go, and God will allow you to get a hold of your finances.

And then notice what action step. to begin the process. And this is one where it's in most couples, it's either a default, we don't think about it a lot. Or it's It's really an issue where there's a lot of sparks. This is one of those Let's agree, let's not blame anybody.

We've done that, right? Second, let's not argue. That's no fun either. Let's Let's work through this worksheet together. And let's come up with just a plan.

that we both agree on. And what I can tell you, I've watched this. Just like spiritual intimacy, when couples get on the same page in finances, and then can I just warning, warning. You know, caution light. You know, yellow, now it's red.

In about two or three weeks, one of you won't stick to the budget. And it's probably the spender. And one of you is like really organized, followed through details, and the other is a little bit more big picture. That's the culprit. What's that guy?

And then you're going to have an argument. And guess what you'll do? You'll bear with one another, you'll define the problem, you'll initiate a time to talk. You have a way to solve the problem. You'll forgive one another.

You repent, your Starbucks is down to four dollars. No, just kidding.

So do do you get it? This is one that doesn't feel like, oh wow, what a wonderful difference it will make. I will tell you. Um This This will impact almost every area. And your children?

Man, it will so help them. What do you mean we can't have that? What do you mean we can't buy that? Everyone, you'll have so many teachable moments when you begin to live in a way. where you are Wise stewards of his money.

In his time, of the home that you either own Or rent. as his steward, With the income that you have, And as you do that, Um Venture capitalists, they look for who's the right person, the right idea, the right concept, the right need, and we want to fund it. And the ultimate venture capitalist in the universe is God. He's looking for someone that would be a good manager that has an open heart. That would use the resources that would bring honor and glory to him, and he would really like as a byproduct.

to have you really enjoy it and make you happy and probably provide some things that you would never dream. Yeah. We live in a world where I want the things Now for me. And I neglected. My business partner.

My Venture capitalists, the funder, the provider. Because you know, no matter how much you have, haven't we learned? Man, your small business is thriving. Guess what? You're out of business.

I talk with people, I spent 33 years building this company. It's gone. It's gone. So, what you want is you want a financial partner that will never leave you, never forsake you, and no matter what happens or when you fail, you can always go back and Lord I'm He's near to the brokenhearted. He wants to help you.

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