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Spiritual Simplicity - What's Love Got to Do With It?, Part 2

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August 21, 2025 2:10 am

Comparison can destroy relationships and lead to carnality, while love is powerful and can be damaged by envy and pride. To stop comparing and truly love people, one must admit their need for God's goodness and choose to be vulnerable, remembering that everything they have is from God and that they are stewards of His gifts.

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There is one practice that is almost built into the human psyche. that absolutely destroys relationships. The moment I compare myself with another person, I go one of two directions. I either feel inferior or superior, and neither of those responses helps me love them. Today we're going to learn how how to stop comparing and to really love people.

Uh Thanks for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. We are an international teaching and discipleship ministry that encourages and equips Christians to live like Christians.

Well, in just a minute, we'll dive back into Chip's series, Spiritual Simplicity, by sharing the second half of his talk, What's Love Got to Do With It. Today Chip reminds us that godly love is powerful, but when we compare, whether through envy or pride, it can damage and even destroy love.

So let's learn how to avoid the trap of comparison. Go in your Bible again to 1 Corinthians 13 for the remainder of Chip's talk. Here's what I want you. I mean, this is what we're going after. This is the jugular.

You want to become more loving in real time. Here's the issue. Comparison always leads to carnality. The moment you ever compare yourself with another person, it always produces carnality. And if you're wondering what carnality is, it's just sin.

You're not loving. Because the moment you compare, there's only two directions to go. You start comparing and you go, hmm. I think that person's up here and I'm here. That's a lot nicer car.

They have more visible gifts. I'm single and they're married, and I wish I was married. Or it goes the other way. You know what, that person's not very important. That's an old dumpy thing.

I wonder why they act like that. I wonder why they dress like that. And you know what? You don't verbalize it. But you feel superior.

You feel better than. And when you envy people, you don't treat them in loving ways. Or if you think you're better than them, you don't treat them in loving ways. And so here's what I want you to see. We are gonna go to war.

On the issue of comparison. Arrogance compares downward. and produces pride, boasting, rudeness, and independence, all of which this passage say is unloving. This is the eye saying to the hand. I don't need you.

I see where we're going. I mean, has anyone ever heard of a hand-to-hand conversation? It's eye to eye. I mean the eye is the lamp of the body. I mean, the I is what's important.

The I is what really matters. The I is way better. Then the hand. You see the comparison? And by the way, it can be the exact same.

Here's what's so ironic about this envy and arrogance: you can be in one room. And a single people See this couple? And they get married, and the single people are going, God, I just don't understand. There's envy and resentment in my heart. And she used to be my best friend, then she got married.

Now they got a little baby. They all seem so happy, and I'm so lonely. And then you have the married couple with two kids or maybe three, and they thought they were done, they wanted to be done, they planned to be done. They're not done. And out of the blue comes number three or number four.

And they're looking at these single people. What are you doing this summer?

Well, I'm going to go on a missions trip. And then I thought I'd spend a week in Italy and with a couple friends. And, you know, so how's your week going? It was really good. You know, I had coffee over there, had a latte with my friends, a couple from work, and the married couple are going, we've been in diapers 11 years.

And they envy their singleness and their mobility. See, it's not the what? It's not the what. And we compare upward or downward. The meaning of the word arrogance literally means to be puffed up, inflated, overvalued.

If the emotional kind of color for envy is red, hot, Arrogance is cool. Blue. Above. It's like the blowfish. And I learned a fellow who owns a fish store or used to, he said, actually, they fill with anything.

He says, if you pull them out of water, they fill with air. Mm-hmm. I said, that's a good illustration, because isn't that what we do? Isn't that what we do? Whatever our, you know, if it's a ministry setting, woo.

If it's a financial setting, woo. If it's a relational setting, we just, when you're arrogant, you just fill up to try and project. You matter more, you're more important. And there's something that makes you feel secure by putting people down this direction, and we all do it. It's rooted in comparison.

I almost hesitate to share this, but it's probably beneficial. This is a social science experiment I'd like you to do. Go to a coffee shop this week. And you can say this is your ministry, at least application, Starbucks, wherever. And then I want you to have a book that you pretend that you read.

and get whatever your favorite chai or coffee, and just sit there for 15 or 20 minutes. Not purposely to eavesdrop, but just to hear. Conversation here, conversation here, conversation here, conversation here. And I'll make a prediction. Four out of five conversations are two people Sitting there talking about someone else who's not there.

And they're either talking about what they didn't do, what they should have done, and how they don't measure up, and this group is superior, or they're talking about someone where this person makes them feel less than. And there's something horrendously Sadistically and sinfully satisfying about vetting talking about someone else and how I feel better because now we're saying that about her or about him. Comparison. is the archenemy of love when you look at differences. The arrogant, puffed up person has a motto or a mindset as well, and basically, I don't need you.

You don't matter. By the way, the more gift, the more talent, the more blessing, the more position that for whatever reason God may give you, the greater the temptation. This book is filled with people that started out very, very humble, and God, could you ever use me? And then they become king, and they become famous. And then the hubris kicks in.

Because after the attitude of I don't need you and you don't matter, I'm indispensable, come feelings like I'm superior. I really am more important. I mean, they talk about other people as though they're less intellectual, their feelings don't matter as much. What they do is important. I mean, for those kind of people, you know, obviously.

And then there's this entitlement mindset. You're special. The action steps of arrogance is when you're arrogant, you automatically become independent. You don't need as many people. I mean, you you are uh You're what matters.

You're the go-to person. You're the center of attention. And so the more blessing, the more money, the more position, the more power, you actually don't need people. And then the step after independence, arrogant people are independent. And beyond being independent, it moves to the next one.

Then they're not accountable. These rules about money and how to use it, these rules about sexual purity and what you can and not do, well, that's for other people. But I mean, my schedule and my demands, there's a different set of rules for me. That's usually well on the journey to their downfall. And after the independence and the lack of accountability, then they become indifferent to the needs of others.

And It's not often just from the words. It's a look, it's a glance, it's a body language. But when you're around them They almost don't have to say it, you feel, or are attempted to made to feel. Less than.

Now I'm going to suggest That we all struggle with both envy and arrogance, but we tend to habitually fall into one camp more than the other. My personal camp is arrogance. I've struggled with arrogance all my life. Part of it is your personality, part of it is your giftedness, part is your family of origin. I mean, can you imagine having a dad?

When I was three years old, before I walked out of the house, there was this easel, and he was teaching me to read. And then he was teaching me to spell long words so he could impress his friends. I'd go to the swimming pool that he managed in the summer, and he was a teacher and a coach, and Chip, tell him, intercontinental ballistic missile. A three-year-old. Boom.

You know, and then, you know, he would say, Chip. This is this is true. This country is going to need a good president someday. Can you imagine this? And I think, and so I mean, the good side, you talk about a kid that grew up with confidence.

But you talk about a guy that had a warped, arrogant view that God has been cutting through for years.

So, we all will lean one way or another. Often, people that have had difficult pasts feel like they never quite measure up. struggle with envy. You know, why did God make her so pretty? Why did he get that job?

You know, I'm tired of, you know, batting eighth in the lineup. You know, that guy's a jerk and he bats third and he plays shortstop and...

Now he just went IPO and his company. That is so sickening. Right?

Well, uh Let me give you a remedy, a very specific love step to attack comparison if you compare upwardly. It says, the envious must believe that God is good and has sovereignly and wisely given them what is best for them and best to fulfill his purpose. You might circle that in your notes. Notice it doesn't say the envious must try harder not to envy. Trying harder not to envy doesn't work.

You've got to think differently. God is good. He's in control. You are who you are. You are where you're at.

And He wants to work in your life, and He's for you, and He's good. And every person and every season, everything doesn't look great. He cares for you, and who He made you is what matters in embracing that. I have really honestly not had much struggle with envy in my life because of my warped arrogance. There's a particular friend of mine in another state.

He's a teaching pastor. He's written books. We're friends. We've had breakfast and coffee, and we're a very similar age. And in about a six or eight-week period, to make the long story short, everywhere I went, his books are here, or I look at a conference and he's speaking here.

And then a couple of friends, oh, I got to tell you, this is the most helpful thing ever and ever. And normally it was like, great, man, he's my friend. The kingdom's growing. And then even my son was telling me, Dad, I got to tell you, I just, this guy, this is the best thing in the whole world. And a little something inside went So Son, are you aware I kind of do some of the same stuff?

I mean, I'm your dad, you know? And then, and then, you know, it's like it hit me, hit me, hit me. And then I walked into a bookstore, and his books are face forward, like in a Barnes and Noble or someplace. And, you know, my normal ranks me, oh, great, man, someone's solid. This is really super.

Instead, this is so embarrassing.

So instead, it was like. I wonder uh Wonder how my books are doing. Yeah.

Okay, Christian living, let's see, H H H H H I. And it must be sold out. Ha ha ha. No. Not there, don't even carry it.

And I remember then I read something, and I mean, this guy's really helped me, he's a friend, I love him. But I felt less than. My less than was followed by kind of didn't want to be around that. And I felt resentful. And it was like, oh, this is so ugly.

And so I uh I did a very specific steps that God led me to. that I want to give you that will help you with your person. Number one, I faced The desire, my jealousy.

So I called it all kind of other things, but I kept having this uneasiness. It really helped to say, I'm envious, I'm jealous. The second thing is, I didn't try and squash the desire.

So, what do I want to say? God, I never want you to use my books. God, I never want you to use my life. No. I redirected and said, God, I really want you to use my life, but I want to be your man, your spot, used at whatever level.

to promote ministry and kingdom not compared to anything or anyone else. And so I repent of that. But I I long for you to use my life. Third is I meditated on God's goodness. See, at the end of the day, it was like when you start comparing, it's like, well, if God was really good, He would have.

Given me a mate by now. If God was really good, he would have kind of healed my body like he did this other person's body. If God was really good, he would have. When we compare, we begin to believe the lie that God isn't good. The very first sin in the Bible, Eve was deceived because she believed God was holding out.

Eve.

Okay. I mean, d do you understand what this will do for you? And she believed that God was holding out, that He wasn't good. And so you meditate on that. The fourth specific thing you need to do to overcome envy is choose gratitude and give thanks.

So I begin to thank God for, and I begin to thank God for this guy. Thank God for his books. Thank God my lands, my son, is listening and reading this person and it's helping him and encouraging him. Thank you, Lord. And then I begin to thank God.

And then I willfully decided, I just made a little thing. I said, you know something? I'm not going to compare, so I just have a new little rule. I'm not going to go into bookstores and see where I'm not or where I am or care either way. And I just decided, you know what, that little practice just sets me up.

for doing and having bad comparative thoughts. You can be jealous or you can be grateful, but those two won't live in the same heart. You start thanking God for this person, thanking God for his blessing, thanking for what he's done, and then start thanking him for what he's done. Either you will envy what others have or you'll thank God for what you do have. And you start doing that, I will tell you what, the envy will dissipate.

And then finally, connect. With that person, if it's appropriate, and serve them.

Now, this person lives in a whole nother state, so I just, I remember as an application, I've been praying for him. Hey, His name, I just want to let you know, everywhere I've turned around in the last three or four weeks, God is using you in amazing ways. Thank you for your impact in my life, and I just want to encourage you, keep pressing ahead and hang in there, Chip. You know, a few hours later, thanks, Jeff. And you know what?

I was free. And now we're in the kingdom of God boat, and we're both rowing together toward what God wants. Aren't we going the same direction? And so I want to rejoice in that. Bye.

You're listening to Living on the Edge. And before we continue today's program, let me ask you, are you in a small group?

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Well, with that, let's rejoin Chip for the remainder of his message. For the arrogant, you must admit Our need and choose to be vulnerable in order to receive the goodness of God in their daily experience. Arrogant people don't have people close to them. They keep getting separated, separated, more and more independent, and everyone sees them as powerful. In fact, I worked with one group of guys recently, and I said, you know why most of you don't have any close friendships?

And they all happened to be in a room and they all owned their own business. I said, because you can either fire them or disinherit them. And that's why you get very little truth in your life. Because they're intimidated by you. And you know what they don't understand?

They don't understand how lonely it is to be, quote, as influential and influent as you are. They don't understand that. Issues in your marriage that other people don't understand. They don't understand that when you start having a relationship in the back of your mind, you're always wondering: is this person trying to get into my wallet, my portfolio, or my Rolodex? And so you become an untrusting person.

You become more and more independent. You will gravitate toward this very dangerous place of not being accountable. And then you'll start using people because pretty soon affirmation is all you get. You don't get a lot of real love. And so you have to make more and more impact and do and do more and earn, earn more.

And then so you use people to get things done, and that's called manipulation. And your soul. dries up when that occurs. Arrogant people need to choose to be vulnerable, so you need a safe place to do that in order to receive. the goodness of God in their daily life.

And I will tell you that There's three or four things you can do that will give you some real help here. One is remember that everything you have is from God. In chapter four of this book, Paul says, What do you have that you haven't received? The brains you have, the opportunity you have, the family that you have, the money that you have, the gifts that you have, the talent that you have, they're from God. Every good and perfect gift is from above, from the Father of lights with whom there's no variation or shifting shadow.

You don't own anything. You are not the blowfish, you're just a fish. And God can fill you up, and I'll tell you what, He can take you down. And you just need to understand it's a stewardship. God, I'm not sure why you gave me this position.

I don't know why you gave me these gifts. I don't know why you've given me this family. I don't know why you've allowed me to be single and free. I don't know why you've given me this money. I don't know why people look to me.

But what I know is it's a sacred stewardship. Second thing, Remember your roots. Remember your roots. You gotta remember where he came from. You know, I remember Kauffman, Texas, 35 people.

And I have a friend. This is the third one. Hang out with some people that know your roots. That no matter what is ever written about you or what people say about you, no matter how many zeros get at the end of your name or how many letters, there's some people who know you. And you know what?

They are totally unimpressed. I played golf two weeks ago with a guy that I spent 18, 20 years with as friends and ministry and You know what I mean? He has the gift of bluntness, and I so love him for it. And I mean, it's just, he loves. Here's the other thing: he loves me for me.

Because he loved me when we were in ministry together.

Well, he came on when we were surging. We were up to 60 people or 100, you know. And he just loves me. I have another friend who's on our board that I've known for 28 years, and he'll bring up the past. And I know what he's doing and I so love him for it.

You know what he's saying? You chip. Remember when you and I were painting your bathroom in that very first church? Remember the house with all the cracks in the foundation? Remember when you did that silly, stupid thing?

Yeah, remember when you, you know, you know what he's doing? He's saying, I love you. But I'll tell you what. It's God. You're just a steward.

You're just a piece of flesh. And he's filled you with opportunity and some gift. and you'll stand before him on it. I just want to remind you. And see, the thing about envy and arrogance, remember, they're just the hitman.

The core is comparison. That's what we've got to eliminate. I'm giving you specific ways for you to say, I either lean toward arrogance or lean toward envy, and how do I address it? And I want to encourage you here that Fourth is admit your needs and invite people into your life. If you're arrogant.

Admit your needs. I didn't want to do this. In fact, I came to last night's service and I didn't have this. And as we were singing one of the songs, just the Spirit of God whispered. Uh you need to share this.

I like to say this is from 10 or 20 years ago when I used to be an arrogant jerk. But it's from August of this year when I acted like an arrogant jerk. A verse came to my mind at the end of the day. I'd traveled and I had the privilege of having dinner with my older sister that I rarely see. It says, The heart is more deceitful than all else and is desperately wicked.

Who can understand it? That verse came to my mind from Jeremiah. And then this is what I wrote in my journal. As I finished up my day of travel yesterday and enjoyed a rare evening with my sister Jeannie, I realized how true that verse is above. They were all little things throughout the day, or so I thought, and one by one the Holy Spirit brought them to mind as I walked back to the hotel.

I remember ignoring the man in the wheelchair going through security. Caring more about my place in line than demonstrating servanthood or concern. I even secretly thought, he doesn't need that chair. He's just doing this to dish everybody. Yeah, I'm sure you've never had those thoughts.

Second, being so consumed with my work on the plane, I ignored the man next to me named Michael. Then when he asked, what do you do, I postured something about being an author and returning to the local church as a pastor. But fundamentally, I was just seeking to please men. I didn't want to be viewed as just a pastor. I wanted to be important and significant because of my miles I got bumped up to first class.

I wanted to impress. God brought Galatians 1.10 and Luke 16.15 to mind as I recalled those events. Later that night, I had dinner with my sister and realized that I took away one of the few opportunities my sister could have to be my big sister and take care of me and give to me and be blessed. And I insisted I had to pay for the dinner. Pride in its many insidious forms is so ugly.

All of this insensitivity, self-focus, self-absorption. All the while while I was writing a new introduction for the book, The genius of generosity. How ironic and sad. Father, uh Where would I be apart from your great mercy and steadfast loyal love and forgiveness? Thank you for applying the work of your Son Jesus to my sin and forgiving and cleansing me last night after I became aware of it.

Help me today to please you. not people. Help me today to be a man whose life and motives are highly esteemed in your eyes, not seeking to be highly esteemed in the eyes of men. Help me today to love people. and not impress them.

Help me today to not compare myself with anyone in any way or judge or evaluate others based on their outward appearance, wealth, position, or perceived value to me or our ministry. Help me from any and all false humility or posturing that communicates that I'm more. that I am. Finally, Lord, help me today to do justice. to love kindness.

and to walk humbly with you.

Now That's ugly. But it was in comparing myself with others. that my arrogance And therefore, I was unloving to my sister. I was unloving to a man who God may have wanted to hear the gospel. I was unloving because in my comparison, I compared downward, and me and mine, and what I had to do.

was here. instead of considering others more important than myself. Where are you on the journey? What if this week You said God I'm going to attack the hitman of either arrogance or envy. I want to maximize my love.

so I can minimize the urgent and the demanding that is masquerading and causing my life to be so complex. You're listening to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram and the message you just heard, What's Love Got to Do With It, is from our series Spiritual Simplicity. Chip will join us in studio to share some insights from today's talk in just a minute. Most of us live very hectic lives, moving too fast, demanding too much, and delivering too little. If you're desperate for an alternative that actually works, then this study is for you.

Chip's teaching will help you escape this destructive pattern and reveal how to better prioritize what matters most and love others in a fresh, revolutionary way. If you've missed any part of this series, catch up anytime through the Chip Ingram app.

Well Chip's back in studio with me now and Chip you wrapped up this message by reminding us how we can get stuck in an unhealthy cycle of comparison. And you know so often when we do that we get so focused on the wrong stuff we neglect our relationship with God.

So for people who feel out of sync in their faith, how can they find that healthy spiritual rhythm again?

Well, Dave, I think most people would say start reading the Bible, spend quality time with God, take maybe some passages where you're struggling and memorize a short chapter. I think all of those would be great places to start. But most of us are struggling with the lack of community. Isolation has killed us. The enemy, that's his goal, to get us isolated, to get us discouraged, to get us looking inward.

And the only way to experience the life of the Holy Spirit is to be with people. We need to get in a room with a group of people centered around the Word of God and say, we're going to meet every week or every other week. We're going to do life together. We're going to be open. We're going to be honest.

We're going to dig in. We're going to apply the scripture to our lives. And we're going to encourage one another. It's been a really, really hard last 18 to 24 months. We need each other.

And so let me encourage you to go to our website and choose the small group study that best meets the needs of your family or a group of men, a group of women, or a group of couples. We have studies to help you get back in sync, get in rhythm. Get in community because there's life there, and God longs for us to experience the very life of Christ, but we can't do it alone. Thanks, Chip.

Well, we have a growing library of small group resources on a wide range of topics, and they're so easy to use. Chip provides the teaching, then you'll have time to discuss what you've heard alongside our helpful study guides. We also offer some insights for leaders to effectively lead their groups. If you're not in a small group yet or looking for your next topic to study, check out our resources. And as Chip said, for a limited time, we've discounted all of our small group resources so you can get into community today.

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Well, here again is Chip to share a few final thoughts. As I close today's program, I want to remind you that comparison always leads to carnality. And as I shared in the message, we do this so often. I mean, all of us do it. We do it multiple times a day, so much so that we actually start believing and thinking that it's normal.

And the fact of the matter is, it's not. It always takes me to a bad place. And whether you tend to compare, you know, upwardly and feel like you don't measure up and you envy how people look or envy what they do or envy what they wear or envy what they drive or envy the boyfriend or girlfriend or the mate or the children, all that takes you to a place of unloving response. It's fine, as we talked about, to desire, you know, have desires for a mate or have desires maybe for a car that works or for a job that's better. That's fine.

But you can't compare yourself with others. Or some of us go the other direction. We compare downward. And out of our insecurities and struggles, we feel better and superior and we put people down. Down and even in our minds, you know, we don't even say anything, but if we have a little bit of disdain, like I'm better than you, it comes out in your body language, it comes out in your tone of voice.

And so, I want to encourage you: what's love got to do with it? Simplifying your life demands that you cut to the heart and ruthlessly eliminate comparing. And so, in the message today, I gave you two or three very practical ways. And I want to remind you, and let's just do them today. The moment you start to compare, I want you to catch yourself.

So, when you walk in the office or go to the construction site, or you're driving in your car, and you look to the right or look to the left, and the first thought is, hmm. And you start to compare, then I want you to stop. And then I want you to thank God for whatever that person has. Just, Lord, thank you for that car that they have. I don't know their life.

Thank you for that child they have. Thank you for the job that they do have. And then, God, thank you that you made me just the way you made me. And then, whatever it is that sort of prompts a hurt or a need or a desire, like, you know, I would really like to have a mate, or I wish we could have children someday, or I really need a better job, or this junker that I'm driving really isn't any good. After you thank God for what He's given them, with a sincere heart, say, Heavenly Father, this is just a desire.

I don't want to compare myself with anyone, but I'm asking you, would you help me? Would you grant this desire? And I don't want it to impress people. I want it so I can serve you better. See if today you can put a death blow to comparison and see if God won't allow you to love more deeply.

and more authentically, and watch what happens. Thanks for that good challenge, Chip. As we wrap up, I want to thank those of you who make this program possible through your generous financial support. Your gifts help us create programs, purchase airtime, and develop additional resources to help Christians live like Christians. If you've been blessed by the ministry of Living on the Edge, would you consider sending a gift today?

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Well, thanks for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. I'm Dave Druy, and I hope you'll join us again next time.

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