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Oh, the culture wars are exploding. We'll give you a kingdom perspective today right here on the line of fire. It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and president of Fire School of Ministry.

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That's 866-34TRUTH. This is Michael Brown coming away live from Phoenix, Arizona. I'll be doing some TV shoots for Jonathan Burnes and Jewish Voice broadcast later today. And so, so much to talk about. If you'd like to weigh in, 866-348-7884.

Just on the way over to the studio here, where I'm doing the radio show now, I'll be doing TV recording later. I noticed a tweet from Montel Williams, where he wrote an article taking issue with my open letter to Megan Kelly, which of course referenced Montel Williams in the midst of it. And I said, well, let's have a formal debate about this, either your show or mine or elsewhere.

So I wasn't aware. Excuse me, he's not on TV now. But looks like we'll get him on the radio one of these days. He seemed quite willing to do it. We've already got our guys in touch with his PR guys.

So hopefully we can set that up and have an enlightening discussion for all of you. on the line of fire.

So yesterday. I was flying to Phoenix by way of Euston. And I was so terribly burdened by what was going on in the society. Yeah, this is not the first time that's happened to me. And I was listening to, or actually reading, the remarks of Attorney General Loretta Lynch in the lawsuit now against North Carolina.

Of course, North Carolina has filed a lawsuit against the federal government. And I was just terribly grieved by what she was saying, the inaccuracy of it. The false definitions, the twisting of the law. Yes, this is the Attorney General, and yes, I and many others are saying that in response to what she had said. And on the flight, I was chatting with a nurse next to me.

We were talking about healthy eating and lifestyle and things like that. But I was just so burdened. I talked about the Lord a little. Then I thought, I've got to write. I've got to write.

I've got to write. I took my computer out. I wrote an article. Worked on it for a little while, fine-tuned it, sharpened it, and sent it out in between flights. And before I got on my next flight, which is about an hour later, I saw it was already posted on the stream.

Five Reasons Why Transgender is Not the New Black. Yeah, we've got to talk about these things. And all I can say is, if you'll go back a number of years, you'll see I've been addressing these very things. In fact, It was in 2007. That I did a five-night lecture series in Charlotte, North Carolina on homosexuality, the church, and society.

And I called out the human rights campaign now.

Now, according to Governor Pat McCrory, the Human Rights Campaign has said they're going after North Carolina on transgender issues, and then they're going to make this basically the showcase for the whole nation, start North Carolina, and then go after the whole nation on this.

Well, we address these things. No, not Bruce Jenner being woman of the year. But we addressed the HRC's agenda and what they were pushing with transgender things in a lecture series back in 2007, friends. That, yeah, it's a shock to see how rapidly things have deteriorated, but we've been addressing these things. Talking about the need to have compassion on those who struggle with gender identity, while at the same time, not turning the world upside down.

So, I want to lay out some important truths about the law. I want to lay out some important truths about why transgender is not the new black. Feel free to call in if you agree with me or if you differ with me. We've had some intelligent responses that I differ with, that I've spotted on Facebook and elsewhere.

So, we welcome the discussion: 866-348-7884. Why is transgender not the new black? And why has Attorney General Loretta Lynch gotten this completely wrong and upside down? And why is it even immoral to compare it to Jim Crow laws? We'll be right back.

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Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34 truth. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Oh Apparently, a young German man, described as he was described by police, pulled out a knife and began stabbing people. According to some local media reports, they are quoting witnesses as saying that they heard him shout Alau Akbar, which of course is Arabic for God is great.

But there are conflicting reports on that. We have not been able to independently confirm. What police and prosecutors are telling us is that they are questioning the witnesses at this point. And the prosecutor has told CNN that at this point an Islamist motive cannot be ruled out. Ah, yeah.

Little slow, not sure of the motive, but they can't rule out an Islamist motive. Yeah. Please, please. When you have someone, a young Muslim, shouting Allahu Akbar, stabbing people. You don't have to figure out if it's related to radical Islam, do you?

It seems the world is losing its bearings in a thousand different ways. This is Michael Brown coming your way live from Phoenix, Arizona, 866-348-7885. for the discussion that the whole nation is having. And that we have to have and that we have been raising for years, not because I like to raise these things, not because I enjoy raising these things, not because this is my favorite subject, but it's one that has been forced upon us. It is one that has been forced Upon us.

So I wrote an article, you can read it on stream.org. five reasons why transgender is not the new black. And Attorney General Loretta Lynch yesterday compared laws preventing men from using women's locker rooms, shower stalls, and bathrooms to Jim Crow laws.

So we really have to confront this.

Now years ago, I and others refuted the notion that gay is the new black. I gave five principal reasons. Why the comparison is invalid. But I can reduce it to about five seconds. If I'm speaking to a mixed audience, I'll just have an African-American stand up.

Let's say it's a gentleman. I'll say, sir, when did you come out as black? Everybody laughs.

Okay, obviously gay is not the new black. The comparison breaks down right there. But it breaks down even more with transgender. But this is what we're being told, that this is the way people are born, that it's who they are, it's innate, it's immutable. Before I get into that, Before I get into some of the specifics in that discussion, let me share some things with you.

That David French, attorney David French, writing on the National Review, pointed out. It says article the Obama administration provokes a legal crisis, the war against North Carolina. And he uh Loretta Lynch claims That if those who identify as transgender cannot use the bathroom of their choice, then that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and it also violates Title IX. And David French explains this very, very simply. what a complete ridiculous overreach this is by the federal government.

He said a public relations battle over bathrooms and showers has transformed into a fight for the meaning and indeed authority of the Constitution itself. In its zeal to advance the sexual revolution, the Obama Administration has defied the will of Congress, unilaterally rewritten Federal law without even bothering to go through a statutory rule making process, and now seeks to bring a sovereign state, North Carolina, to heel through a combination of threats and lawsuits.

So he says, let's make this simple. Title VII. Prohibits private and public employers, including state governments, from discriminating on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, and national origin. Title IX prohibits federally funded educational institutions from discriminating on the basis of Sex. Neither state prohibits sexual orientation or gender identity discrimination.

Neither statute prohibits sexual orientation or gender identity discrimination. And he notes that for more than 20 years, LGBT activists have sought to amend federal law through the so-called Employment Non-Discrimination Act, a bill that would essentially add sexual orientation and gender identity as protected classes within federal non-discrimination law. For more than 20 years, LGBT activists have failed. ENDA, it's the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, hasn't passed even when Democrats controlled the presidency. and both houses of Congress.

Rather than wait for the law to change, however, federal regulators and lawless federal judges have incrementally changed it by executive and judicial fiat, steadily expanding the scope of Title VII until July 2015 when the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission unilaterally amended the statute. In other words, they just said sex now includes gender identity and sexual orientation. Who gave them the right to do that? The laws never said that. The laws never meant that.

So North Carolina now is rightly challenging the notion that the EEOC can amend federal law merely by changing its quote interpretation. And as David French says, this is quack science meeting quack law, and the Constitution is the casualty. He rightly says the Obama administration is playing dangerous games with our constitutional republic. Unlike nullification crises in years past, this time the state government is leading the way in attempting to preserve the will of Congress and our nation's system of checks and balances by defending federal law as written. The executive branch has gone rogue by amending federal law through unconstitutional action.

The federal government had zero right to do what it is doing. Can I say that clearly? Can I say that clearly? The federal government had no legal or constitutional right to do what it is doing and change the law. And when Loretta Lynch said, Well, yeah, we can include gender identity under sex, as I say in my article, Five Reasons Why Transgender is Not the New Black, as I say there, the fact of the matter is that you go to all the standard definitions on transgender websites and so on, and they'll say gender identity is different than sex.

It's different than biological sex. Oh, but not now. Not now that the federal government wants to ram this down our throats. This has nothing to do with what private businesses do, and this has nothing to do with Caring for the needs of those who are confused about their gender. It has to do, to say it for the thousandth time, with the fact that you don't intrude on everyone else's privacy and turn the world upside down.

To accommodate the struggles, of a few people for whom we care. 866-34Truth. I've got a ton to say I want to hear from you as well.

So we'll start in Queens, New.

Alright, well actually we've got a bunch of callers from Queens, so we'll stay in Queens. Melody in Queens, New York. Are you there? No. Rose in Queens, are you there?

Hello, Rose. Yes, Rose? Yes, you're on the air. Go ahead. Make sure you're not on speakerphone though.

Oh, I'm sorry. I should take you off speakerphone. Yeah, please. I hope I did. All right, you did.

Go ahead. Okay. I just wanted to say that many years ago, I'm 72, many years ago, I went to a bathroom that had two stalls. And in the next door, I felt this uncomfortable feeling and I could see like men's shoes. And and the person was there and all I all I know is I had to keep going back and forth 'cause I had not I had the runs, whatever you call it.

All I could say is what happened when finally I came in, I started trembling. And somebody had to hold me because and then the person came and rushed out. into the street. And all I'm trying to say is Now we're at the point where we're fearful about going to the bathroom. What we're going to meet up with I didn't know whether to open the store, run out, But the person did right now.

All I'm trying to say is, and what does that have to do with colour? Yeah, exactly. What does it have to do with color? People say you have to if a man's in a bathroom And you're a woman. Ye y y y I started to shake and and t now I'm getting to the point thinking You know, even when I go to swim, there was a person, and I thought it was a man.

Everybody started running out. You don't make it. But when I'm trying to say, what's it have to do with color? If a man's where a woman usually is, It it it's it's it's it You know, right, Rosa Rose, so there's no connection to color.

So, first thing is: in today's narrative, you're the bigot. You're the transphobe, you're the problem, as opposed to saying you have every reason to feel uncomfortable with a male. In the stall next to you. Of course. And you have no idea what the guy is doing in there.

So there is the expectation of privacy that is being violated. And let's think about this. One of the reasons why transgender is not. Transgender is not the new black. Very, very simple.

And by the way, there are a whole, a whole lot of reasons, and I'll get into them in a moment. But something very simple. Let's say you're a bunch of white women and you don't want a black woman in the locker room with you. The only reason for that. Is prejudice?

discrimination, bias, there's no valid reason for it.

However, to say you don't want a biological male in there, there are many, many valid reasons for that. Is this not totally self-evident? Is this really rocket science that we need to have a massive discussion about this? Shall we say together, wow? As for our color rose, she tells it like it is.

All right, thank you for the call. We will be right back with a whole lot more. 866-348-7884 is the number to call. And when we come back, share some audio clips with you and start to go through my five reasons why transgender is not the new black. Shake the nation, change the world.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Super. We believe a court rather than a federal agency should tell our state. our nation and employers across the country what the law requires.

Yeah, of course, 100% accurate. Governor Pat McCrory saying that what the government's doing, federal government, is complete overreach. And it is a new interpretation of the law that's now being imposed on a state. I mean, it's absurd. It is beyond absurd.

But when you hear the reasoning behind it, it's even more maddening as if transgender is the new black. This is Michael Brown. Listen to the line of fire, 866-34Truth. And by all means, join me in Israel next year. Go to the website, ask Dr.

Brown, A-S-K-D-R-Brown.org. And click on the Israel banner. Join us. It will be the trip of a lifetime. Let's listen to some of what Attorney General Loretta Lynch had to say yesterday.

Clip number eight. This is not the first time that we have seen discriminatory responses to historic moments of progress for our nation. We saw it in the Jim Crow laws that followed the Emancipation Proclamation. We saw it in the fierce and widespread resistance to Brown v. Board of Education.

And we saw it in the proliferation of state bans on same-sex unions that were intended to stifle any hope that gay and lesbian Americans might one day be afforded the right to marry. and that right, of course, is now recognized as a guarantee embedded in our Constitution. In the wake of that historic triumph, we have seen bill after bill in state after state taking aim at the LGBT community.

Now, some of these responses reflect a recognizably human fear of the unknown. And a discomfort with the uncertainty of change. But this is not a time to act out of fear. This is a time to summon our national virtues of inclusivity, of diversity, of compassion and open-mindedness. And what we must not do, what we must never do, is turn on our neighbors, our family members, our fellow Americans for something that they cannot control and deny what makes them human.

And this is why none of us can stand by When a state enters the business of legislating identity, And insists that a person pretend to be something or someone that they are not, or invents a problem that does not exist as a pretext for discrimination and harassment. I mean, aside from yes, we should be caring and loving towards all. And compassionate towards those who struggle, what she says is so mind-boggling. People have no choice.

So there's no, when you read about the whole range of transgender identity, and some just choose to dress differently, some choose to have hormones, some choose to have sex chain surgery, some choose to identify as gender fluid or multi-gender or whatever, no choice. And when you disregard the concerns and the needs of everybody else. And you throw out all the concerns that are there. Every time you raise concerns, people say they're not real. Then you give quotes of actual people, families, individuals.

No, it's not real. Uh It is so mind-bogglingly close-minded, if not downright dishonest and deceptive. I assume she believes what she says, in which case she is utterly deceived. and in the role she plays in our nation following the footsteps of Eric Holder, that is a great and grave concern. 866-34-TRUTH.

Let's go to New Hyde Park, New York. Michael, welcome to the line of fire. Hey, Dr. Proud, how are you today? Doing great, thanks.

Listen, I gotta I just wanna tell you, I I work for a New York City agency. And we have somebody who went over, you know, transgender, a man becoming a female. And I tell I tell you what, we probably have 10,000 people between sixt six different places we have, and everybody had to go to classes to learn how to treat this person. And I'm gonna tell you, people are off in the wild. Over this.

And but we're afraid to say anything because a lot of guys know we're going to lose our job. If we if we go overboard, you know?

So so Michael, you're saying y you're uh what what company is this?

So I have a New York City trend.

Okay, New York City Transit, and you said maybe 10,000 people were part of this training. Yeah. Easily. Easily. And and and this was having to do with how many situations?

One One Micah, this is the whole point. You got one struggling person. And there could be a thousand reasons for their struggle on top of it. And it's got nothing to do with race. I mean, you can't possibly make that comparison.

Again, I don't have time to get into all the details here, but folks, read my new article, Five Reasons Why Transgender is Not the New Black. Just go to askdrbrown.org and click on latest article. But the point is this, Michael. You turn the whole world upside down for the struggles of one, and then no one can say anything about it for fear of losing their job. When you say people are up in arms, your own feelings, sir.

As you're talking to people, how many people think, oh, this is great, wonderful, we need to do this, and how many think it's crazy? You know, I know this is what I was trying to tell that first poem. Uh Everybody we talk to, like in a closed circle, five, eight, ten, women. Um, then they're all against it. Everybody's like, I can't believe this even happened Why?

We and and but yet we can't do anything about it. It's horrible. You know? Yeah, money. Yeah, but look, that's the whole thing.

The voice. of the people must be heard. Michael, hang in there. Keep doing your job. Keep walking in love.

It's frustrating. Uh but ultimately sanity will prevail because the situation you describe is certainly representative around The country. And I'd encourage your friends: hey, don't lose your bearings. We all know this is wrong. At the right time, we will get to address it.

And then there could be a lawsuit. There could be something else. But encourage folks, don't back down, but let's just wait for the right time and the right strategy to address these things with wisdom. But what a perfect illustration of why we're speaking up. Hey, thank you, Michael, for the call.

Listen, friends, I'm going to stay on the phones for another half hour.

So stay right there. I'll get back to you right after the break. This is obviously an important issue. Phone lines have been jammed. Many want to weigh in on this.

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We are here to announce a significant law enforcement action. Regarding North Carolina's Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act, also known as House Bill II. All right, Loretta Lynch, Attorney General, with one of the more outrageous press conferences I can remember, literally changing the meaning of laws. It is really, really quite remarkable. 866-348-7884.

Before I go to the phones, one more clip. This is Chad Griffin, who is the head of the Human Rights Campaign, a press conference in Raleigh that was this past Thursday. I quoted it yesterday. I want you to hear him. CBN News asked him about why conservative Christians should oppose the Bathroom Privacy Act rather than support it as every conservative Christian I know does support it.

Clip number two. The most Christian of values says, love thy neighbor. Thou shalt not judge. We are all God's children.

Now, much like the civil rights movement in the 50s and 60s, the purveyors of hate may attempt to abuse and use religion to justify discrimination. but they ultimately can't get away with it. Yeah. Mr Griffin, Chad. You're going to keep trying to use that argument, and it'll work for a while, but it's not going to work for long.

Because people realize there's a difference between a man dressed as a woman. and someone who's black. or someone who's Hispanic. they realize there's a difference between ethnicity and race. and gender identity.

Listen, there are lots of people who identify as gender fluid. Chad, certainly you know about this. There are lots of people who identify as gender fluid. Nobody's race fluid. You might be multiracial, but no one's race fluid.

There are people Sally says she's Sally today. She's James to morrow. She's Sally and James the next day, she's neither the day after that.

Well, nobody's black today, white to morrow, black and white the day after that, and neither color. We're colorless. The following day, People will realize the comparisons do break down and love your neighbors yourself.

So let's understand this. Michael works with New York City Transit. talked about the 10,000 plus people having special training because of one person who was changing gender identity. He said everyone he talked to was upset over it. How about loving those neighbors?

How about loving the 10,000 neighbors? rather than saying the whole world turns upside down because of the struggles of the one. 866-34Truth. We go to Land, Massachusetts. Angelica, welcome to the line of fire.

Thank you. Hi. Hello? Hello. Yes, this is Angelica.

Go ahead. This is very logical. First of all, God bless you for everything you're doing. This is very, very logical. First of all, when Martin Lut Martin Luther King was preaching about he had a dream, he didn't have this dream.

So Everything, I'm a Christian and I live in the city of Lynn, which is part of Boston, Massachusetts. And I can tell you this, I have a sister who um was lesbian uh for many, many years, many years. And she, um at some point, uh, something changed in her and now she has her husband, she has her children, and she never wants to go back to what she used to live. And she never ever wanted to use A public bathroom. for men.

or female, nothing changed. She just used a regular bathroom. Why is it changing now?

So in a way, I'm wa hang on, were you saying I I'm so glad to hear the change in life. Were you saying she used to be lesbian or she used to identify as transgender? She's female and she uh was lesbian and she had many friends uh who got it.

Well th that w you're yeah, that would be different than in that she always identified as female. But what you're indicating though is that it was not innate and inborn for her to be lesbian. In other words, it wasn't like race. You don't go from, I used to be black, now I'm white. I used to be white, now I'm black.

So thank God to hear that. Yes, this was not part of Dr. King's dream. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown.

Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Let me encourage you, especially if you live in North Carolina, but around the country, write to Governor McCrory. Encourage him, if you're connected with any of the legislators, if you're in a particular county in North Carolina, then let your legislator know if they voted for HB2.

Encourage them to continue to stand for what is right. And as Governor McCrory has pointed out with the government, the federal government is trying to push on North Carolina.

Now, schools, schools, schools think children. They're trying to push on the whole country. 866-34-TRUTH. Let's just listen to one more comment from Governor McCrory, then back to your call. Paul's.

Let's see here. Let's go to clip number nine. Governor McCrory talking with Judy Woodruff on PBS News Hour. This was yesterday. Clip number nine.

I'm sure you heard the Attorney General say today. She said this amounts to state-sponsored discrimination. She compared it to the Jim Crow laws of decades ago where in African American black Americans were not allowed to use restrooms that white people were. She said this is harming innocent people. That's extremely divisive rhetoric and dangerous rhetoric, which is totally unrelated to an issue on whether a male or female should use a male bathroom or a female restroom.

This is an issue which is really about privacy versus equality and that balance. And people have an expectation of privacy, according to many of our citizens, not just in North Carolina, but again, this is now going to be a nationwide issue. Yeah. To make the comparison. Oh, oh yeah, they're going to keep pushing the Jim Crow button.

Why? To try to make the other side look wrong, to try to make our side look bad. In point of fact, there's no Valid comparison on any level that can be brought in terms of Jim Crow laws or that gay is the new black. Going to get to more of your calls in a moment, but in my article, Five Reasons Why Transgender is Not the New Black, I point out first. It is completely bogus for Loretta Lynch to argue that gender identity is innate.

in particular in the same way that skin color is innate. There's not the slightest scientific consensus on the statement. I've read the literature on this, those that are pro-transgender identity and those who question the validity of these things, etc. And One of the advocates at a conference was saying what we know about this in the brain is primitive. Primitive.

There is so much speculation and so many questions and why this happens in some and others and not and does it change and so many questions and yet gender identity is innate.

So there's a tremendous amount of scientific evidence that would question this idea. Especially since we know very little about gender identity in the brain, and it's well known that the great majority of children who identify as transgender before puberty do not continue to do so after puberty.

So how, then, is gender identity innate? If m most kids who identify as transgender before puberty don't after puberty. And what about people? who don't identify as transgender until later in life. And they've quote, discover who they really are.

What about the many who identify as gender fluid? Second, Loretta Lynch actually contradicts standard transgender talking points when she claims that the category of sex. includes gender identity. I could have quoted from a hundred pro-transgender websites. But I thought I'd go to an authoritative site, the APA, the American Psychological Association.

which is strongly Pro-LGBT. This is what they say on their website. Remember, Loretta Lynch is saying that when Title VII and Title IX say, you cannot discriminate. based on Uh based on sex, right? She's now saying gender identity is part of that.

So And here's what the APA says: sex is assigned at birth, even the word assigned, but whatever. Sex is assigned at birth. refers to one's biological status as either male or female. and is associated primarily with physical attributes such as chromosomes, hormone prevalence, and external and internal anatomy. Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviors, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for boys and men or girls and women.

These influence the ways that people act, interact, and feel about themselves. While aspects of biological sex are similar across different cultures, aspects of gender Maybe differ So they're saying clearly there's a difference between sex and gender, all the more than between sex and gender identity. And they read a lynch, attorney gentleman said, no, no, no, they're all included in the same. How utterly bogus and inconsistent. 866-34-TRUTH.

We go to Washington, D.C. Sabrina. Welcome to the line of fire. Thank you. I just want to say it's a black African American woman, I am truly appalled.

that the gay community would even compare. and say it is the new black. Black people were beaten. We were raped. We built this country.

We didn't have a voice. We didn't have a choice. We knew who we were, and the things that black people went through slavery is nothing compared to. to what the gay community is going through. And I just wanted to speak as a black woman that no, gay is not to do black.

It cannot be compared. And that's all that I wanted to say. It's just ridiculous. It's just ridiculous. It is not the new black.

The gay community doesn't even they're not even touching on what black Americans black African Americans had to go through. We couldn't speak. We couldn't re uh they lit didn't let us read. We couldn't get educated. We couldn't vote.

Uh our children were being raped. Our families were being ripped apart. No, gay is not. the new black. Sabrina, there were millions of Africans who died in Middle Passage.

From Africa to America. Just that. Just that. And the whole comparison is smashed. and and and in the communities where whites could lynch blacks and get away with it.

And on and on and on. Today you have Ellen DeGeneres, T V's sweetheart. You have CEOs of companies like Tim Cook. You have the president speaking at gay fundraising events and on and on. You even go back 50 years in America, and though you did not have.

Black CEOs of major companies. You did not have the Jackie Robinson is going to be a black baseball player, and he gets death threats over it.

So, that's the new black. Yeah, and almost. even for them to even go there with that. Oh, they've they've been going there, Sabrina.

Now they're going further.

Now it's transgender. which is the new black but thank you for calling in much appreciated 866-34Truth Gaithersburg, Maryland. Philip, welcome to the line of fire. Hey, Dr. Brown, good to talk to you.

First time caller. if there is ever going to be an issue that will make Black Americans and females look at who they're supporting as far as progressives go. This has got to be one of those turning points. I'm going to make a prediction. My prediction is, you're going to find out this is more of a young male.

thing than it is a female thing. young males that want to hang around a bathroom or a dressing room where they're females. I'll be surprised if you see a great outpouring of females dressed as men trying to go into the men's locker room.

So my prediction is This is going to be one of those things where you see just you know whatever kind of males they are. Um with some kind of psychological problem. Just wanting to get close to females that are partially dressed or clothed or whatever the case might be. And I tell you, if you were if I was a female right now, obviously I'm not, but if I was a female right now, I would be outraged to the point of just Absolutely. Throwing my support somewhere other than any kind of a party that would support this kind of trash.

Yeah, Philip, of course you're completely right. And the fact is it's already documented how heterosexual predators have used transgender bathroom access to get into the bathrooms. Why not? Why not do it? Why, look, they're predators already.

They're perverts already. Why not do it? We're talking about heterosexual predators. Why not? And then I just have another question.

I have another question. Uh From what I've read, The vast majority of men who identify as women Do not identify as lesbians.

Well, excuse me. They are not gay. There is a son of man attracted to men. It's a man attracted to a woman, a woman who identifies as a woman.

So if you have a biological male, If you have a biological male in the lady's locker room. He's still a male and he's still attracted to women, but he identifies as a woman. Should women be comfortable with that? Oh, no problem. I just came out of the shower stall and the towel, and there's the man got a change in front of him.

No problem? And if he's still It's got the male plumbing. And he's gonna change there in the in the locker room? Should no one feel uncomfortable? Should your eight-year-old daughter in there with mother not feel uncomfortable?

By the way, Philip, you you said something ironic. You didn't mean it. You said if I was a female, obviously I'm not. These days, it's not so obvious. Do I care about people who struggle?

Of course. Of course. Do you turn the world upside down for them? No. No.

Yeah. Thank you for calling. 866-34TRUTH. All right, I'm going to try to squeeze in as many calls as I can when we come back. On the line of fire.

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Michael Brown. Today, we are filing a federal civil rights lawsuit against the state of North Carolina. Governor Pat McCrory. The North Carolina Department of Public Safety and the University of North Carolina. We are seeking a court order declaring HB2's restroom restriction impermissibly discriminatory, as well as a statewide bar on its enforcement.

May we all see the day. when that lawsuit by the federal government is ridiculed. for the complete misinterpretation of law. The misrepresentation of the connection between gender identity and Jim Crow laws. And the ridiculous overreach, the egregious overreach of the government.

We all live to see the day. when the Red Lynch's press conference goes down in infamy. as an embarrassing moment in the history of our federal government. May sanity and wholeness prevail in the society. eight six six three Fortruth, Norwalk, Connecticut Beverly, welcome to the line of fire.

Hi. Go ahead. Is um Dr. Brown? Yes, it is.

Hi. Yeah, I just wanted to tell you that I feel greatly insulted by the fact that they would associate um, being black with transgender because Um being black is not an abomination to to God. whereas being trans Gender, God says that is abominable to him. And the next thing that I want to say is that I think that what the new policy needs to be Is that they should have three bathrooms: one for females, one for males, and one for other transgenders or whoever. Doesn't you know, fit into male or female.

Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Yeah, of of course, of course. wherever possible. if you have a gender-neutral bathroom but but again you're talking about having this to accommodate one or two out of a thousand people. But yes, if you can have that Do it, by all means.

What's really tragic, Beverly, is that In many cases, Those who are transgender, saying that's discriminatory to say we can't use the bathroom of our gender identity.

So it's never enough. Their struggles need to be imposed on everyone else. And by the way, the scriptures say that for a man to wear women's clothing, that's what's mentioned as an abomination to the Lord in Deuteronomy, the 22nd chapter. But you're right, skin color has nothing to do with a behavior. As one of my friends said, if you act out being white, if you act out being black, what action is associated with it?

None. If you act out being gay, well, there's romantic attractions and sexual desires that are going to be acted on. If you act out being transgender, that will now bring behavior and lifestyle and choices with it.

So, again, the comparison breaks down there. Uh thank you for the call. 866-34-TRUTH. Kenny in New York City, welcome to the line of fire. Hey, Doctor Brown.

How are you doing today? Very well, thanks. Oh, that's good. You know, I get tired of hearing everyone try to use, like the retaliant is doing. I'm a young black male.

I'm also a pastor, but to use. Racial discrimination as a form of gender discrimination is totally. It's it's It's crazy.

So you overreached with that.

However, I do believe that if someone came to their office with a complaint, She has to hear the complaint. She has to hear the complaint and see if there's a need to go further. But is it her decision to say whether or not people have to do something when you have courts? That have necessary means to actually give a law, a state of law that would apply to whatever we're addressing right now. Because too often we find that these.

It's ridiculous with all the no laws. What happens if somebody comes up and says, I want to be a monkey and you need a monkey bath, and then what you gonna say then? He can't keep using an excuse to try to make everybody else adjust to what people choose to and how they choose to live their lives. And color, political affiliation has nothing to do with common sense. Yes, sir.

Common sense. Whether you're white or black, whether you're Republican or Democrat, you should have common sense. And I do not want no man in the bathroom with my daughter, period. I don't want to see it. And to try to use anything other than common sense to deal with this is just.

But left it. Yeah, but that that's what's basically gone is common sense. And be assured, Loretta Lynch is not just acting on a complaint. This is an all-out war that has been launched for some time now. And it is also a war against common sense.

You know, someone says, look, But here's a woman who had sex change, became a man, now looks like a male bodybuilder, and so on. And a hundred people would think that person's a male.

Well, if that person goes into the men's room and goes to the men's stall in the men's room, No one would blink? No one thinks twice. Never been a problem. Why do you have to make it a problem? If to all outward appearances, if there is a man Who, when he was 18, had sex change surgery to become a woman, and he looks like a woman and dresses like a woman.

and goes and uses the women's stall and the women's bathroom, no one would have known. Why make an issue of it? When you say, however you identify, you go in, that's when you now have the left and right. It's not like there's just one odd case. It's been for years, men.

who look like w uh who look like men. who later in life have had sex chain surgery or on hormones or something, And they're going into the ladies' bathroom. Kenny, I'm with you. My wife doesn't want to be in there. My daughters don't want to be in there.

And my granddaughters don't want to be in there. Do I care about the person? Yes, let's help him. Let's not accommodate his struggles. Let's help him.

866-34Truth. All right, tell you what. One more call. Donna, time is short. Donna in Boston.

If you could weigh in really quickly, go for it. Hi, I am agreeing with all of the the callers that's just recently spoken.

However, I'm appalled By Lynch. who aren't using common sense in regards to saying it's okay and quoting those Those, um Huh. Um African American laws that happened hundreds of years ago, comparing them to these. Gender I density. people.

Oh, so you quoted the APA. Perfectly fine, and that is the definition. And we just need to use common sense, and I Yeah. From North Carolina, that God will grant them favor in all of this. Thank you.

Thank you. And yeah, look, it's a common sense message. matter here. And there's been a war on common sense. Thank you for calling.

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Where I discuss the issue of whether Facebook is suppressing. contrary views, conservative political views. I link to Important article, Five Reasons Why Transgender is Not the New Black. And I posted this, so please share this as widely as you can. We are in the midst of dealing with Facebook right now about some issues as to why it seems that our access to or our distribution level on our Facebook page has been massively restricted by Facebook, trying to find out what's going on and why in dialogue with them at the moment.

I said, well, let's put this to the test.

So I posted a video, and I'm just getting some interesting responses here so far. I'm getting folks saying That they're trying to post it and they can't. I mean, that that makes that makes no sense to me unless there is really a a suppression of others.

Some send there's a notification that it's not there, that's been removed. Of course, it's there, nothing has been removed.

So we're we're finding out what's going on, but The bottom line is I'm not looking to Facebook, I'm looking to God. The bottom line is I'm not looking to people. I'm looking to the Lord. And ultimately, for America to be changed, for America to be touched, for America to. And go in any right direction from here, there must be divine intervention.

More of the same is only going to produce more of the same. And Just like in my own life. Over the years, as I was getting older, I was putting weight on. I'd lose some, but then I was putting weight on. I had to come to grips with the fact that more of the same is only going to produce more of the same, and the direction I was going was the wrong direction.

I had to come to that conclusion. The direction I was going was the wrong direction. And by God's grace, I made a radical, complete turnaround. And my whole life physically, radical turnaround beginning August 24th of 2014. That's what it's going to take in America.

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My heart beats for revival, for Visitation for Awakening Day and Night. You hear it in the theme music that's played. The only hope for America, in my view, is a holy awakening from on high. And my guest, Anne Graham Lotz, best-selling author, daughter of Billy and Ruth Graham, called by her dad the best preacher in the family, called by New York Times one of the five most influential evangelists today, launched her revival ministry five seven, excuse me, in 2000 and has written her newest book, The Daniel Prayer, Prayer that Moves Heaven and Changes Nations. Ann, welcome to the line of fire.

Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Dr. Brown. It's my pleasure to be with you.

Well, at this point, this critical point in our nation's history, I don't want to overdo things, but it's an unprecedented moment in terms of so much darkness and so much apostasy and so much backsliding and confusion. Do you have hope in the midst of this? I have hope. One of the things is that I believe God is stirring in the hearts of his people. And everywhere I go, people sense the need to pray.

They're just in their different prayer events. People, just ordinary individuals, feel a need to pray. And I don't think God would stir our hearts and call us to prayer if He didn't want to answer the prayer. You know, I feel like there's That's an indication to me that we're not we haven't gone into the abyss yet. But I believe if we don't pray, Dr.

Brown, I believe if we don't turn to the Lord in humble repentance, first of all, for our own sin and then seek Him on behalf of our nation, I believe that we will go over the the edge. And we're already giving evidence of moral and spiritual bankruptcy. I think we're giving evidence of a Romans I type judgment where God is turning us over to ourselves and He's backing away as we defy Him and tell Him to get out. He's backing away and removing His hand of protection and blessing and favor. And if He continues to do that, and if we continue to abandon Him and He abandons us, then that would become a a very serious situation.

And actually, I think it would be terrifying, except that individual believers, we know that we're saved. We know that one day we'll see Him face to face. But for our nation, it would be the end of our nation of America as we know it. Yeah, with implications for the entire world because of the role that America plays. Yeah, I agree with every word that you just said.

And in Habakkuk, the third chapter, there's a one-verse prayer for revival. Part of it says, in wrath, remember mercy.

So there's always this sense of urgency. There are many amazing prayers in the Bible. Why focus on the Daniel prayer? You know, I don't have an answer to that, except that I believe God put that prayer on my heart, and the situation Daniel was in matches ours. He was in a nation that God loved, was Judah, and, of course, the city of Jerusalem was the capital of Judah.

And God sent them messenger after messenger to warn them that judgment was coming. They were provoking him. They became more defiant in their sin until it says in Chronicles that God became their enemy. He turned on Judah and sent in Nebuchadnezzar and the Babylonians. And he brought judgment on his own people, but it stretched over 22 years.

So it's like he did it so slowly because he couldn't bear to do it. And he would pray at any moment they would repent and turn from their sin, and then he would stay his hand of judgment. But of course, they didn't. In the end, Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the city of Jerusalem. He destroyed Judah, took the people off captive.

And in that day, Actually, it was the first time that Nebuchadnezzar attacked, the first of that 22-year period. He took Daniel, a young man living in Jerusalem, into captivity. And so the book of Daniel that bears his name in the Old Testament is, in a sense, his memoir, if you want to call it that way, but just his experience in Babylon, a lot of his prophecies that God gave him. But then tucked in there is this Daniel chapter 9, which is his prayer, when he was reading the book of Jeremiah. And he came across the promise that God said, after 70 years, I'll bring you back from captivity if you seek me with all of your heart.

And Daniel, at that point, had been in captivity, had been a slave for 67 years. And so he's calculating that in three years, if God keeps his word, then he would set us free. And so he turns his face towards God, and as though no one else was praying, I don't know if anybody else was. I don't know if anybody else had read Jeremiah as he did and applied it to his situation. But he poured out his heart in prayer for his nation.

And Dr. Brown, three years later, God answered his prayer specifically when King Cyrus, head of Persia, which had been Babylon, but King Cyrus issued an edict that all the Jews living in Persia could go home. And so he set the captives free, and it's a direct answer to Daniel's prayer.

So it's a powerful prayer. It's one that works. And at the end of Daniel's prayer, when he is still praying, still confessing his sins, still seeking God, God says. Sent an angel to give him an answer and said, Daniel, while you were praying, I've come to give you insight and understanding. You're highly esteemed.

And it was just a dramatic, immediate answer to his prayer, where he had that sense that God was pleased, God had heard, heaven was moved, his nation was changed. And um and it's but The God of Daniel is our God today.

So if he would do it for Daniel, then he can do it for us today. But we're going to have to seek him with all of our hearts, which is the Daniel prayer. Yeah, seeking him with all of our hearts is a key thing and something we've almost forgotten to do in our instant push-button generation in which we live here in America. And the book is hot off the press today, May 10th, the release date. Looks like it's flying off the shelves.

There seems to be real interest in it just looking online and checking. Why did you write this? What will the reader get out of reading this book? Because look, there are lots of books on prayer. There are lots of books in revival, but you felt specifically burdened to write this.

What are you hoping will happen for someone who reads this book?

Well, basically, simply, I'm hoping people will pray as Daniel prayed. But it's a book that's not high and lofty. It's not super spiritual. It's not, you know, it's not pious. It's just real life.

And I struggle with prayer. I'm not a prayer, Dr. Brown. You know, I will just admit that. People call themselves prayer warriors, or it's said about that.

I'm not a prayer warrior. Prayer is a struggle for me, always has been. I've struggled with content. I struggle with consistency. I struggle with concentration, you know, but I pray because I need God.

But this Daniel prayer, about three or four years ago, I felt like the Lord just laid a burden on my heart to not only pray more seriously, but to draw other people into serious prayer for our nation and for our world and for the church. And so, you know, my prayers sometimes seem hollow and anemic, and God has shown me a depth in prayer that I've just written out what He's taught me. I'm just trying to impart to them. And so at the end of the book, I actually write prayers based on Daniel's prayer, based on The pattern of his prayer to show people how you can pray with this pattern, and then I leave blank pages there where they can write their own prayers because writing out a prayer helps me keep my concentration.

So it's a practical book. It's very personal. I share personally in there. You know, my husband this past August, um, I found him unresponsive in our pool and and he moved to heaven. And I can tell you I prayed the Daniel prayer.

You know, it's a it's a can sometimes be a heart scream, a heart's cry. And God answered, not he didn't restore my husband to me, but he gave me a sense of his presence. He drew me Close to himself. He carried me through that horrific time in my life. He's still carrying me, actually.

And so it's a prayer not just for our nation, but if somebody's gone through a divorce or a death or a Terrible diagnosis of a disease or some sort of disaster. You know, there's a depth to this prayer and a boldness to it and a humility. It's powerful. And I know it works because God answered Daniel's prayer in a dramatic way, and I know He's answered my prayers.

So You know, we come to God. God hears any and all prayer, you know, whatever he chooses. But when we come to him in a covenant relationship, which is what Daniel did, he said he turned to the Lord, my God. When we come to God through faith in Jesus Christ, so that we're a child of God and we're coming to our heavenly Father, He promises to hear and answer our prayer. Maybe not the way we prayed or how we prayed, but heaven will be moved.

And so it's just time to pray. Yeah, and I appreciate your openness, your honesty. When people hear famous evangelist, powerful preacher, best-selling author, and here you're saying your prayers are anemic, you've struggled with concentration and content. Obviously, something's ignited in you through this prayer, and then having lived through what you lived through, the Shocking loss of a spouse, the prayers of desperation greater than ever. God is real, friends.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Many years ago, I memorized these words from Daniel 9 in Hebrew Hatanu. Starting there. We have sinned.

It starts with those Hebrew words, we have sinned. And Anne's was saying, We have turned from your commandments and laws. I'm speaking with Anne Graham Lott's, her brand new book just released today, The Daniel Prayer. And when we read Daniel's prayer, even though he's one of the rare people in scripture whose life is mentioned without accusation of sin and fault, and he is someone greatly loved by God, yet when he confesses, In Daniel 9, we have sinned. We have done wickedly.

We have rebelled. Why is that sense of identification so important? Many of my listeners, they've never had an abortion, they've never done drugs, they've never committed a crime, and yet when we pray, it's so essential that we say, We have sinned. You know, it's an amazing thing, just what you've just pointed out, that he so identified with the sin in his nation, he used plural pronouns all the way through. In fact, you'll find in the book of Nehemiah, Nehemiah does the same thing, Ezra does the same thing, and there's an identification there so that it's not judgmental.

And I think in the recent past in our nation, when we pray for our culture and we pray for the secular world, there's been a tendency, I think, to point our finger at them and to find fault with. The world that's really behaving very naturally. You know, they're sinners and they're sinning, and why should that shock us? You know, that's just what they do. And actually, we do it too.

It's just that we've been forgiven and we ought to be behaving better. But we tend to forget that we're sinners too, that we've had to come to the cross and be forgiven. And instead, we point our fingers and we're blaming this person and that person. And I can be honest, when I watch the evening news or, you know, catch it online, I I want to do the same thing. I cannot believe some of the things that people are doing today and saying today and the the um At the same time, I have to remember that they're just doing what what they do, which is sinning, and and I'm a sinner, ground the ground is level at the foot of the cross, and we we need to come humbly and present to the Lord our sin and their sin as, you know, it's Collective sin sin is what put Jesus on the cross.

And so when we think of our culture, you know, my heart is not only heavy to pray for our nation, but to pray that somehow the gospel will permeate our culture and that people will know that Jesus died for sinners, you know, that He loves sinners. And it doesn't matter what your particular sin is or what your brand is or what your identification. Jesus loves sinners and so does God. That's why He sent Him to die on the cross, that we could be forgiven.

So I think there's a humility that implies a A humility and a compassion and an identification. It's a very Christ-like thing to do. You know, Jesus. Had no sin. He was absolutely without sin, yet he became sin for you and me, that he could be God's sacrifice for our sin and clothe us in his righteousness.

So when we take on the sin of our nation as though it's our own, it really is a Christ-like thing. We're following his example. Yeah, and when you think that, for example, Charles Finney said that the pulpits are largely responsible for the moral condition of a nation, to paraphrase, or Martin Luther King saying that the church is the conscience of the nation. If we see darkness in the nation, that's an indication that something is wrong with the light. And I've said for many years, I'm not so much concerned with the presence of darkness as I am with the absence of light.

So, all the more do we get on our knees and repent and say, God, we've sinned and we've acted wickedly and we've rebelled. But Daniel also points to the Lord, he points to God's righteousness and to God's mercy. And a lot of this has to do with the glory. Of the Lord, we have to remember that God wants to move more than we want Him to move. And Anne, as you've spoken around the world, I'm sure you've seen a lot of encouragement in terms of God pouring out His Spirit around the world.

What are you seeing as people begin to cry out? Is God answering prayer in the nations? Is God even answering prayer in America here? Maybe little pockets, things that you see that encourage you? I I think he's stirring.

But you know, sometimes in Scripture when God moves, it's not pleasant. And uh so there you know, a lot of the turmoil perhaps in uh the Middle East and in Europe and even on our streets, God is moving. And so it doesn't necessarily mean that when you see blessing and goodness and joy and peace, that that's That's not necessarily evidence, I mean, it's evidence of God's blessing for sure, but when God moves, it can be in an ugly way. And so that's what I'm seeing worldwide. I believe things are falling into place for the return of Jesus.

I think we're living at the end of human history as we know it. And so we're living in a very dangerous time, a very strategic time, and a time when I believe God is calling his people to pray that we might draw near to the heart of God, find out what the burdens are on his heart, that he would impart those burdens to us, that we would pray back to him what he's wanting to give us. It's like Abraham praying for Sodom. And Abraham received that burden from God, then he prayed it back to God. And Sodom wasn't saved, but Abraham's nephew who lived there was.

And God dramatically rescued Sodom out of that time of judgment.

So, you know, it's just a time, I think, to present salvation, and it's a time to pray to a God that we know. In fact, you referred to something that I think is a key in Daniel's prayer when he was confident of who he was talking to. He was confident in the character of God. And he said, God, you know, you're faithful. And he knew over a lifetime God had been faithful to him.

And God is faithful because that's who he is. He was faithful to Daniel. He'll be faithful to you and me, faithful to America because he can't be less than himself. He is faithful. But then he goes on and says, God, you're righteous.

In other words, you've put us in captivity. You've enslaved me for 67 years. I'll never go home. And you've done the right thing because our sin provoked your judgment. And God is righteous.

He will not tolerate sin. There will be judgment for sin.

So Daniel acknowledges that. But then he says, almost in the same breath, but you are loving and forgiving. And so this God who is righteous is equally loving and forgiving, which we see at the cross when God changes. Grudge. In at the cross, but then he stepped in and took the judgment for us.

So that's his mercy and his kindness. And then Daniel ends by saying, God, you are great. You delivered us from Egypt. You delivered your people from Egypt. And if you can move the heart of Pharaoh, you can move the heart of the Persian emperor.

So do it again. Because God is just as great as he was in Moses' day, as he was in Daniel's day, as he was when he raised Jesus from the dead, as he is today, Dr. Brown. He has not lost his power. He is still a great God.

And I think we do disservice when we turn to a politician or we turn to a person or we even turn to our own good understanding instead of turning to God in prayer and asking him to return to us and to bless us. Yeah, and when we say God can do it again, we're not being trident. And Anne, one thing I love about the Graham family. Is all of you always point back to Jesus? It's never secondary, He is always primary.

And wouldn't it be amazing, Ann? If the energy that we're putting into the Republican and Democratic primaries and elections, if we could turn that energy to prayer and turn our focus to prayer and cry out to God with that holy desperation. Things could change. Friends, the book, the Daniel Prayer. And I know you're super busy, especially on a day like this.

Thanks so much for joining us on the line of fire. Thank you so much. It's been our privilege, Dr. Brown. God bless you.

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First hour today. We discussed the war with the federal government against North Carolina and discussed why transgender is not the new black. Caller after caller, I wanted to weigh in on that, especially many of our African-American callers who take strong exception to that. I just finished a great interview with Anne Graham Lotz, her new book, The Daniel Prayer. And one thing she said that to me is greatly encouraging when I talked about the darkness in which we live and the backslidden, compromised, sinful state of the society, do you have any hope?

And she's very sober about things. She certainly believes God brings judgment and things like that. But she said, the fact that God laid it on her heart, the fact that God laid it on her heart to write this book and to pray these prayers indicates that he wants to answer. You can get the interview with the book. It's a $22 hardcover.

Just out today. You can get the book and the interview we just did for $25 postage paid by calling 1-800-278-9978. 1-800-278-9978. In a few minutes, I'm going to be joined by my friend, Reverend James Robinson. And I really want to have a heart-to-heart talk with him today.

about unity issues. I genuinely want to have a heart-to-heart talk because as I watch things unfold in society around us, even within the Republican Party, I'm not a registered Republican, I'm an independent, but I voted. largely Republican for years now because of the Republican platform.

Sometimes I've voted with reticence, sometimes I haven't been able to vote at all. That's where I basically voted. But even in the Republican Party, the amount of division right now, I don't see a way around it. And I don't know if God's trying to shake the whole thing down. And and there'll be a new party raised up that And then of course many say the problem is that conservatives aren't that conservative anymore.

And that's a bigger problem. But we're going to have an honest talk. We're going to have a heart-to-heart because I know that he's a man who strives for unity, not at the cost of truth. But who strives for unity, yeah, Matt, uh, tell you what. Grab grab one of those uh uh Donald Trump clips for us.

I didn't realize I had it on my list here. That's right. I was so focused on the other issues. But let's grab one of those and just let us know which one we should play. Yeah, and just, you know, which whichever way we turn.

Whichever way we turn in the society around us, it's just. It's like madness. It seems that way, it feels that way, and yet I'm full of faith and hope because God is who he says he is.

So, clip number 14, the latest from this has to do with Donald Trump. He goes after Russell Moore, who's a respected Southern Baptist leader, and called him a nasty guy. And Donald Trump really spoke against him. Russell Moore is asked to respond. Clip number 14.

One of the key aspects of conservatism is to say character matters in public office and in the citizenry, and that virtue has an important role to play in our culture and in our politics. And now we have a Republican Party that seems ready not only to surrender on the culture wars, but to join the other side. I mean, what we have in the Donald Trump phenomenon, as well as in the Hillary Clinton phenomenon. Phenomenon is an embrace of the very kind of moral and cultural decadence that conservatives have been saying for a long time is the problem. And so, when you have conservatives who were saying in the previous Clinton era that character matters, rightly so, who now are not willing to say anything when we have this sort of reality television moral sewage coming through all over our culture, and conservatives who previously said, We have too much awful cultural rot on television who now want to put it on C-SPAN for the next four years and to give a model to our children, really with either of these two candidates, of an amoral sort of vision of America that isn't what we believe in.

And that was the comment that prompted Donald Trump to go after Russell Moore in pretty harsh terms. Terms And then Russell Moore tweeted back with, yeah, he said he's really a terrible person, nasty guy, and then... Not a good evangelical, Russell Moore tweeted back from 1 Kings, hey, it's not me, I'm not the troubler of Israel, it's you. It's fire we want, for fire we please. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr.

Michael Brown. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34 TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. To all He says that I am a nasty guy with no heart.

That's true. I am a nasty guy with no heart, which is why I need forgiveness of sins and redemption through the gospel of Jesus Christ. And I think that's where most evangelicals are. We're looking, though, at a situation where there's a reality television character who is saying, let's not just accept what we see as cultural decay, let's glory in it. And I think that's a problem long beyond this presidential election for the culture.

That is Russell Moore speaking in response to Donald Trump's tweet that he was a terrible person, a nasty guy. And he's saying, yeah, you better believe it. That's why I need forgiveness. And that's what Donald Trump doesn't feel like he needs. The more I watch these things, the more I listen to these things, the less it seems there can be any unity.

in the Republican Party. The question is, is that what we need now? Those that normally work Republican, is that what we vote Republican? Is that what we need? Maybe God's shaking the whole thing.

Maybe things need to divide. Maybe there needs to be a new party. How do we approach these things? My guest today, James Robinson, the website that he launched over a year and a half ago now, The Stream, a go-to place for sound wisdom on what's happening in the world today. A stream last night was the first to post my new article, Five Reasons Why Transgender is Not the New Black ItStream.org.

James, as always, great to have you on the broadcast.

Well, good to have you too. And Russell Moore is certainly not a nasty guy. He's a very wise, caring person. And really, it'd be just wonderful if mister Trump would recognize that these people rather referring to him with some name. That's not even appropriate or applicable, but he would really learn from them.

And he would. And of course, that's my encouragement in every way I can to uh him and the family to listen to the people they've been taught to avoid. And I think that I'm actually going you'll read an article on the screen tomorrow. Uh Reagan Bush. What about Trump Cruz.

Sounds impossible. It does. perhaps even more so than the Reagan Bush, and yet that was quite a step. Then I happened to watch the supernatural aspects of it and that's precisely what it was. Matter of fact, I had gone to and I'll tell the story in the article tomorrow.

after Bush pulled out as a fellow Texan. Uh he knew that I had not been supported because I thought he brought a lot of Eastern establishment liberalism as baggage.

So I went to meet with him on our flew to Houston. I said, I've come to see you. And he said, why would you come? I said, I'd like to talk.

So I went immediately to his office, and he was amazed that I was there. And I said, Well, I'm here because. I believe you will be vice president. And that means you'll be one heartbeat from the Presidency, and that gives me concern. because you don't like the people that I think are great Americans that you would really respect if you would only meet them.

And I believe you love America. I believe you care. And so I actually wanted to ask if you'd get down here on your knees with me and let's pray. and ask God for wisdom. And Bush looked at me and said, I'm just I just can't even believe this.

He said, I just I can't believe it, but I'll tell you what, I will. And we dropped down on the knees, a little love seat there in his office and above it the CIA picture cubicle. when they detected the missiles. He later told me that that was the most uh high tech photography that they had by satellite. And he said we could actually zoom in and I could show you the shadow of a bayonet on the ground.

And I thought, boy, that's amazing. I could see the missiles. I could see what the concern was.

So anyway, that was just part of the conversation. But We actually got down on our knees together and prayed. And I mean, it was a real prayer time. For America and for wisdom. And when he got up, he said, You know, this was a special time.

And I said, Would you meet with these individuals that you don't like? who are strong conservatives individually, privately, He agreed to and he did and later said, These are truly great Americans. I want to thank you for. encouraging me to do that. And sure enough, he was chosen as Vice President.

And I was there with Eddie Childs in France. He owned the Texas Rangers. We were sitting with Senator John Tower. And we saw the amazement of the crowd when Bush was announced.

Some were glad, some were not. But I watched them come together, and I was able to continue interacting with the. Mr. Bush to try to encourage him, encourage Pastor Ed Young, Second Baptist Houston, become a friend. encourage or they become very good friends and And he was able to contribute to the spiritual And I think really the conservative viewpoints that the Bush more or less gravitated toward.

And we saw a miracle team that really won in a landslide. and didn't want every state but the one that Tamandel had. as the owner one, he barely lost that one.

So the Reagan phenomenon was great.

Now here's what I'm praying, Michael. I really am praying this. I think we had some of the most qualified people run for President in my lifetime. And I would encourage mister Trump to invite these. There may be some he just thinks couldn't contribute.

But if they would actually come and sit at the table of reason and do what Ben Carson has encouraged from the time he got in the race. Let's have a civil discussion. and let's discuss the serious problems we face and let's do it as a team. And I am encouraging I just say to every Christian, We need that kind of miracle. I believe that Ted Cruz brings something to the table that is critically important.

But Mr. Trump has brought something that has motivated people, and you may want to call it manipulation, but it's at least motivated them. It has stirred them to believe that we can. Can overcome the inappropriate political correctness that is anything but correct. We can resist the Washington establishment.

We don't have to put up with a cartel mentality that Cruz refers to it as. We can actually. correct this course. And he has made them believe that. But I believe that he needs to hear what Ted Cruz knows so well.

And no one could bet justices of judges for all the appellate courts, not just the Supreme Court justices. But all the other judges that handle more than 90% of the major cases that never get to the Supreme Court.

So, you need great judges. No one more qualified than Ted Cruz in that area. No one more qualified to. I help people understand the Constitution and the value of our founding documents and the wisdom of our founders. What if you put these two men together and they actually deliberately on purpose as our founders got down on their knees together.

And ask God for this divine providential direction and wisdom again. It would be a miracle if this could happen, if all of those candidates who brought so much to the table Would come to the table of reason the way God invited Israel to come, even as a nation and as people. Let's reason together.

So, Michael, I'm praying for that because I just simply believe our God is able to bring about the kind of miracle. That brings people together to seek the best for the glory of God and the benefit of the people God loves. Yeah, that's I mean, that is a high and lofty aspiration calling and something that would require a miracle and a lot of death to the flesh.

So let's just say, what would that require from Donald Trump for that to happen? And what would that require from Ted Cruz for that to happen? Where he would cry each one of them deciding to take the role as greatest in the kingdom. To become a servant. First of all, to God, we serve God for His glory and His kingdom purpose, but to serve one another.

Ted Cruz has so much that Donald Trump needs. And you know, I found that in my life, the enemy was very, very clever at keeping me away from the very people most qualified to help me. It would be almost as though we would see a personality point of tension, and we wouldn't even meet together. And once we came together, they became the greatest value, even to this day. Oh, my staff.

People that I initially wouldn't even have interviewed would not have considered. Suddenly I realized there was a supernatural influence. I believe from the realm of darkness that was keeping us apart, causing that wall to come. I'm telling you, I would love to see Donald Trump get so excited about what Ted knows and Ted gets excited about becoming a student, not just the smartest guy in the room, but even more so, like Reagan. Teachable, humble, the way Billy Graham has lived his entire life, meek and teachable, while standing for principles.

I would love to see Donald Trump respect Ted Cruz and say, teach me, let's learn together. And Ted says, Donald? you really can stir people to believe in the impossible. Why do they even believe somebody like you could actually help us? And my goodness, you've got a lot of issues.

Hey, let's talk about them, let's pray about them. I can actually see two people get excited. Let me tell you what Bush said to me right after he got to know Reagan. He called me and he said, Jake. This man is a great man.

He said he is truly a great man. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to be the best person. vice president that ever served. He said, you just watch and see if I'm not.

And lo and behold, he really was. He was a servant. And I'm telling you, I honestly believe he did well. He didn't run a good second campaign. He made some big mistakes.

You know, they didn't have a lot of the conservative values and principles that Reagan had come to understand. Has solid in their eyes, but what a wonderful man that President Bush was. And W had so much that he brought to the table at a time when we critically needed him. Why can't we, the American people, come together? Michael, I have so much love for you.

You're one of the strongest people I've ever met. But I know the driving force in Michael Brown's life is you love God and you love people. You really care about people. You're not mad at somebody that's confused about their gender. You're not angry at someone that's defeated with some practice that seems to go against everything the Word of God teaches.

You simply love them. And I know that's what's in you. But there would be some people who don't know you might think, well, you're just hardlined. No, you're not hardline. You're a man full of so much love that you want to tell people the truth.

that in fact sets them free and keeps them free. I want Donald Trump. And I want Ted Cruz and these other truly great candidates To come and sit down at the table of reason. And I say, if we're going to ask America and Congress to reason together, let's start by setting a good example. James, if I can just get you a couple more minutes, if you can stay with me a couple more minutes.

Let us know during the break. Thank you. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr.

Michael Brown. Thanks for joining us on the line of fire. Go to stream.org for the latest commentary on what's happening in society around this, but from a biblical perspective, from a wisdom perspective, not just reporting the news. The news is there too, but you'll get inspiration and you'll get wise commentary. And tomorrow, an article from James Robinson on the Reagan-Bush era and the unity that came out of that.

So, James, one last question for you. Many people will be listening and say, man, that's an incredible vision. That seems like an impossible vision. But are we putting unity before truth? Are we putting unity before the righteous cause we believe in?

What's the use of unifying if we don't have principle behind it? How would you address that concern?

Well, you don't bring a a strong body together without a skeletal frame, the principles. And I think that if Donald Trump, and I, because I know, because I've had the opportunity to Get him to sit and listen. And it was as though he wanted to learn. But he wants to learn from someone that that can really confirm what they're saying. And Don and Ted Cruz can do that.

Ted Cruz at the same time. would probably do well to learn how to motivate people, not just because you know principles, but because you can actually stir them to action. you know, I had the ability, which Billy Graham pointed out, To have the Christians in the stadium become so concerned that they actually all became witnesses. He once commented, I spend a million dollars to get a crowd. You have a small crowd and stir the people, and they go get the whole city to come.

There is something about a gift in a person to motivate people to action. Donald Trump actually has that gift, and it comes from God. Every good and perfect gift comes from God. He's oftentimes used that gift in the wrong way. But he does have that gift.

And Ted would be the very kind of person and if you remember, he showed Donald Trump respect. When Donald first came out, he was blasting everything that needed to be blasted. And Ted was affirming it. He's right. These things need to go.

These things are a problem. But then the tension. And I believe the orchestrator of division and dissension. And I believe that spirit of the flesh and deception. Keeps people from coming together who are the very instrument of correction and instruction.

and wisdom that that person needs. And I honestly believe these two men, it would be, listen, it's nothing short of a miracle if they actually became a team. And they showed not only one another respect. Think about this, Michael, a moment. Millions of people said we see something in these people.

rather than thumbing our nose at all of those people and saying you didn't know what you were doing, and calling them stupid. when in fact they were zealous for change that needs to come. But they also had different perspectives. What if you brought the concern for the necessary changes to the table? And then you sat down and said, what do we bring to the table?

As gifts that actually came from God. that could succeed. The American people would be thrilled and they would cheer. And the other candidates would cheer. And what if you say to the other candidates?

Each of you have something of value, or you wouldn't have had the support of so many people or the concern that you brought to the nomination process. What if those people came to the table of reason? Need we expect Congress to ever get there if we can't even get the people who are running for the highest office in the land to sit down at the table of reason? How can we expect anybody else to do it? I've been bringing church leaders together now for the past 25 years.

And I'm going to tell you something, Michael. It's tougher to get church leaders together than it is to get Congress together. And you've been in meetings with me, and you know that it's possible. Frankly, to be honest with you, I'd like to moderate this gathering with Mr. Trump and Cruz and the others.

I would love to. Because I'm not going to sit in the room. And let them begin to take snipe shots at one another and destroy the possibility of getting somewhere. I simply wouldn't tolerate it in the room. And we would stop the nonsense, and they wouldn't have to be calling each other down.

I'd do it. I'm saying to you, this meeting that I see. Is a very real possibility and it is needed. And I say to everybody that prays, This is the kind of miracle that birthed this nation. This was the supernatural power of God that brought the most diverse Bullheaded.

Brilliant men together for the sake of freedom, and they birthed the greatest nation ever founded on this planet. And I'm just saying, we need that kind of birth right now. We need another great awakening, and I think these men coming together. Would birth that awakening. And I feel it very strongly.

I think you can tell by the way I'm speaking. I feel it very strongly. And by the way. You are a key factor in what God wants to do, and I really do believe that.

Well, I I appreciate that, sir. Really, you know what stirs me? I have a dear friend in India, Yesu Pottam, a former untouchable. Who was stoned for preaching the gospel many years ago? We've almost been killed preaching together in India.

He's planted over 7,000 churches, built schools, hospitals. And he always has a way of getting at something that's beyond the normal perspective. You know, I might see something that needs to be confronted, and I'll confront it and behind the scenes trying to build bridges. But then he'll see like another way, kind of, and it's this Jesus perspective, which is what you're bringing. But the takeaway for all of us, because I know where you stand on the principles, I know how deeply you feel about these things.

Absolutely. Let no one here. Compromise. No one's talking compromise, but for every one of us, just like a husband-wife argument, if you could put down your pride. And your personal agitation, and say, okay, what's in the best interest for the family?

Or in this case, pastors in a city. It's not about who wins or who's bigger, it's about Jesus being glorified in that city. If we could put down the ambition and the pride, apologize for where we sinned against each other, misjudge each other, and say, Let's help each other because the world needs us. Oh, to get beyond the personalities. And that's a vision.

That is a vision, my dear brother. It's an impossible vision, but with God, All things are possible. I appreciate you sharing it with us because it's going to light a fire in people's hearts to pray for things they've never even dared to pray for because they seem too preposterous. But thank you for your witness today. But I'm praying for it to happen because we're going to have to have this type of miracle To correct our perilous course, it's going to take a miracle that great.

And I think this could just be the launching of it because I love these men. I love all these candidates. I know many of them well. And so I just care. And I'm praying for it to happen.

I just, everybody prays, okay, this is the kind of miracle we need. How about we just get it kick-started right here? This would be a good place to start. And I just ask everybody to pray because we've got to have a supernatural awakening. or we are going to lose freedom and see what you referenced earlier, we're going to see the judgment of God for turning away from him and turning his truth into a lie and becoming idolatrous.

And we don't need to go there. We've got to get away from that. And we are precariously hanging in the balance with that. And of course, As we pray, this would mean the transformation of who Donald Trump is and the transformation of who the other candidates are as well, because this is something impossible in the natural. Thanks once again.

And friends, you heard it. Let's pray for God's impossible, for his very best. Let me close with this that God gave me while I was praying in the last week. I have always used the imperfect to accomplish my perfect will. Always have, always will.

And of course, we understand that for that to happen, the imperfect. Submits to the wisdom and leadership of God, or we get the wrath of judgment for walking away from it. But he uses imperfect people, two of us talking to each other on the phone right now, warning what our perfect Father wants. Amen.

Well, Father, may it be so. Do the impossible. Get hold of these political candidates and turn their hearts to you. Turn their hearts to humility, turn their hearts to servanthood. The nation, what's impossible with man is possible with God.

My guest, James Robinson, thank you, sir. For joining us so much. Friends, go to the stream, stream. For the latest cutting-edge wisdom and commentary inspiration. Thank you once more.

All right, friends, my bottom line today with God. all things are possible. What's hopeless with man does not mean there's no hope in heaven. Game to the world.