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When Christians Are Compared to Terrorists; and Debating Donald Trump

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When Christians Are Compared to Terrorists; and Debating Donald Trump

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What people warning about Christian terrorism here in America to stage for the line of fire with your host activist office international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry getting to the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Yes, it's true what he said is completely false, but it's true. They said it.

Dr. Warren J. Blumenfeld writing on LGBTQ quote one of America's biggest threats is radical Christian terrorists. All you he's not happy with the fact that we put such emphasis on Islamic terrorist or quote radical Islamic terrorists wants us to focus on the quote Christian terrorist radical Christian terrorist yet will will get into that a little bit later in the broadcast friends. I've heard this rhetoric for some time now that that Christians who stand for conservative moral values that we are the Taliban and that we are Al Qaeda that we are Isis, the other sick and ugly and ridiculous charges, but all looked at Timothy McVeigh Oklahoma City bomber. He was Christian, and so on. All of this nonsense which is factually not true and philosophically ridiculous will talk about it because these charges are out there.

They are in the air, so to say you'll hear them more and more small talk about that a little later in the broadcast.

If you like to play in the numbers always 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884 all this week were having special guests on the broadcast with me who were part of the team involved with translating, producing, distributing the new tree of life version of the Bible which Pastor Jack Hayford referred to is a miracle in motion Baker books. As you will know if you been listening this week has now taken over distribution and production of this new Bible translation, which means that there is an opportunity to reach all a massively larger audience than we ever reach with this brand-new translation and they put it out in some beautiful additions will tell you I can get hold of one of the free DVD in a few minutes but be speaking shortly with Dan Juster, one of the leaders in the messianic Jewish movement the pioneer since the early 1970s would get his take on these issues and some important messianic Jewish related questions that you will be fascinated by his insights. I wish we had 20 hours to talk to Dan because of his spiritual depth and insight but before that some really neat news a couple months ago I flew into New York City with one purpose only, it was to record a special edition of my testimony for the I met Messiah website YouTube channel. Some of the testimonies there Jewish believers have gone viral.

One of them viewed more than 1,000,000 1/2 times and they asked me to record my testimony so summarily telling my story and then they had to edit it down to a manageable size and anyway I I am blown away with the final production. I mean, with sound effects and background music add captions and the way the thing was edited and put together is just amazing and it's taken off it just went live early this morning and it's taking off. You can watch it on my Facebook page LOL you'll be blessed. The story of this hippie Jewish rock drumming heroin shooting LSD using teenage rebel come to faith in Jesus the Messiah. Maybe you're listening now, you knew me back then maybe your part is a little Italian Pentecostal church that help Remy into the kingdom, but you'll be blessed by the testimony you probably want to share with others doing Gentile alike. So watch it on my Facebook page. Ask Dr. Brown a S case DR Brown share with others will be right back, then justice will join Dr. Michael Brown, along with messianic Jewish pastor Scott multiply unique behind the scenes tour of Israel. February 25 through March 6, 2017. Space is limited so accepting applications on a first-come first-served basis. For more information on the chip and to secure your spot, please visit our and click on the Israel tour banner four-color office at 704-782-3705 line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get another minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us on the line of fire. If you sign up today. Good website ask Dr. you'll see it right on the homepage.

The Israel banner click on there for more info through you to be the trip of a lifetime all have great opportunities to be with you.

Do some special teaching and different sites and participating in some of the special activities and some meals together. I will be doing some public meetings as well. You be able to be part of those you can join the sitting and behind the scenes as we do live radio from Israel, and of course all the wonderful amazing things that you see on the tour as the Bible comes alive is ancient history comes alive us as future history before it happens comes alive so jointly in my colleague and friend Scott Voelker for Tribune amazing amazing time again. Find out more about that aspect It will be from February 25 to March 6 so NASA time to plan. Get your deposit in 866-34-TRUTH will come back to the line of fire, as I've been mentioning the tree of life version of the Bible has now been officially taken over by Baker books when the vision to produce this new messianic Jewish translation came forward. It was just pretty much on its own. In other words vision to get this out to get it done to produce this brand-new thing that had never been done before but how to get distributed well. There's been amazing favor, but for one of the largest Christian publishers of the world Baker books to say this is a translation of really use this translation that would really produce the Bibles forget about that was an amazing breakthrough. And there's a special ceremony. This can be taken place and in Jerusalem in just a few days the beginning of this next week with the official release. We've got a beautiful addition of of a slimline leather like version of the tree of life Bible and what my dear friends and colleagues, Dr. Daniel Juster has been a pioneer in the messianic movement.

He was involved in the messianic movement. Before I knew it existed he was involved in the messianic movement, but I had massive questions about it and he's been on the front lines as messianic. You Jewish theologian for all of these decades, and now divides his time between United States and Israel Dan walking to the line of fire. Thanks for joining us today. Dr. Brown will then when when you introduce someone to speak at our old home congregation in Maryland Beth Messiah you would always want to put things in it in a context. This is why this is significant or there's something important with this group networking with this group for you. You always have a larger context for the moment. This is a pretty big issue now this this messianic Jewish Bible of this team translation give us a context of the significance of this and the significance of Baker now taking it over.

Will Dr. Brown only translation edited by multiple biblical scholars both Jewish and Christian but have a messianic direction orientation to interpreting short but meaningful work that way.

The headings are gone. Where the language of gone probably take into account the original direct contact, more than any other virginal door quickly all over the Buddha but but but the Bible really have a tremendous effectiveness in connecting people to the Jewish rooted context and so they can now get involved with that license a significant will will Baker is both a major Christian publisher for books in a major Bible publisher, so Baker's involvement in saying this, but a really credible translation on the level of other translation, but Baker realized bit about there that they would be competing with the new international version verse the American Standard new American Standard or the American English and different Bibles that are out there so bring this Bible to shoulder to shoulder kind of parity to the other translation height data on the larger theological level. These are issues you dealt with for decades. Your book Jewish roots is used to this day is essential reading in the messianic Jewish movement. What's the difference between Gentile believers recovering the Jewish roots of the faith and Gentiles, thinking that they have to be Jewish in order to please God. Well, unfortunately, people that teach the don't understand that when the Gentile expected treatment is related to a parity level priestly status with Jewish people priestly language that you see in Ephesians chapter 2 rate with McCoy way back to the most holy place in heaven even more than the Israelite priest who could not felt going to the holy of holies. Only I so the New Testament written be Gentile, Jewish, specific responsibility that was probably even understood by LL in the first century. The difference between universal application of the ethical teachings of the Torah, perfectly specific responsibility for Jewish people that are connected. Circumcision the land problem promised the fiefdoms that are clear and Israel and the one of a good think about this translation of the death of McKinney Erickson being straightforward about both passages which clearly relieve Gentiles from the ability so someone can now be equal parity. No Jew or Gentile means that we have equal status in the Lord. There's no caste system. There's no class system, but a Gentile doesn't become a Jew when Gentile gets a notice a Jew become a Gentile and it's too much of church history.

That was a most required if a Jew is going to be a follower of Jesus that you would have to announce anything Jewish and be completely Gentile in their practices to be accepted by the church, having a Bible now that that reconnects us with Jewish roots demolishes that are right. There doesn't really do. You can see them up Like Romans 15 three. Both of which talk about the Gentile relationship to the Lord with people Romans that rejoice, or Gentile, with people and you see this passage in Ephesians 3 was that the Gentiles are now participants in the covenant with his people, and this is anticipated in Abraham a covenant Michael Abraham is now the father of both a certain product could be referred by, but he walked with God before he was 35 taken be the father of the concert we really have this idea that you and Gentile together both building Jew and Gentile makeup. The wonder man Rob and big former Jew performer Gentile just like husband-and-wife weeds.

It is no male or female in the Messiah.

And yet it's only a husband as being a male and a wife is being a female that can truly bring together the 1/in marriage, it would be the same length in the body didn't have have you seen your own studies you're widely read in church history that when there is a real revival that gets back to Scripture. The church often recognizes the importance of the place of Israel. True, Mike. I see this very strongly in the revival became a Lutheran typist for all infants endorse movement that came out of that they really saw this place of Israel with very strong youth theater in the second great awakening used. In the method effective place for Israel officially forgot the method of how strong sense of that. So this rediscovery of the importance of Israel in the last days, oftentimes accompanied revival was a major revival in Norway and the southeast of Norway hundred 40 years ago and that revival brought the consciousness of the importance of the salvation of Israel and that tremendously influenced the Norwegian Pietist movement as well. At the time and you smoking quite a few nations today where where churches want to connect with Israel one connect with Jewish believers in Israel which is kind of an unprecedented new thing yet amazing week.

We see this with the Koreans with the Japanese refit with African with Brazilian now are finding the leaders of the Chinese underground church coming up to Israel to have that relationship with blue something they're able to travel and trying to break the goodness years ago and they are connected to us in Israel quite stunning amazing. Just amazing. Hate Dennis. I got one more question for you got a brakes if you just hang on for another moment, but the tree of life version features the Jewish order the books of the Old Testament Jewish name for the Messiah Yeshua reference for the full letter on smoking name of God, which is where he rendered his Adonai and he returns transliterated such as shalom and shofar and Shabbat so much more. I had enjoyed participating in this translation as well get your coffee beautiful slimline little like edition plus a free DVD postage-paid direct from our ministry and asked her to run. Ask Katie or Brown.Ward run on the homepage her by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks again for joining us on the line of questioning and ask all of you in a moment before minds are open 866-34-TRUTH 784 kids will be looking for your feedback next week were going to be doing some special things, offering ways we can partner together with us and help us continue broadcast on the radio and continue to be your voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution. My friend Dan Juster and I we go back over to the early early 1980s when we became friends and have been coworkers for several decades now Dan is as you follow the work that were doing, beating Jewish outreach. The more cultural issues.

But what would you tell my listeners in terms of the importance of getting behind a ministry like ours, you know, I've known Mike for over 30 years and I do not know anyone who is more biblically based everything that you seek to do and yet you take that biblical basis. You don't have taken on a theoretical basis for developing theology before practical feet and you find yourself on the cutting edge of the most important issues of our day, whether it be replacement theology in Israel are apologetic for proving that she's official it really is on the five divine son of God arose from that whether you're dealing with instruction of gender distinctions today. The importance of traditional marriage and family value the importance of the compromising from the church cannot cough revival and the holiness of life.

Hyper grace issues which are there is nobody dictating all of most important point in calling for the Reformation: both in the church simplify you know where I stand in my relationship with you, Mike. I I endorse what you're doing everywhere I go on everybody here a lot about atenolol.

That's that's very kind and gracious and I deeply appreciate the solidarity and I'm so pleased to see after all these decades of all the pioneering that you've done with increasing favor coming towards messianic Jewish movement and the recognition of the importance of Israel and God's plan. So keep up the amazing work and look for to connect either here or in the states.

Thanks so much for joining us today Vandermark got Ellis all right, that was Dan Juster and we were talking about the tree of life, the century's version of the Bible. All right, here's right. Need some input from you.

Are you ready have you heard the charge that Adolf Hitler was a Christian.

Yeah Adolf Hitler was a Christian and the things he did he did in the name of Christianity.

Have you heard the charge that Timothy McVeigh was a Christian.

The Oklahoma Oklahoma City bomber. Have you heard the charge that the mass murderer in Norway that that he was a Christian there for a Christian terrorist have you heard these charges never looked into any of them. Have you looked into that.

The myth the ridiculous myth that Hitler was a Christian or claimed to be a Christian. Whether Timothy McVeigh was actually a Christian or door that the mass murderer in Norway was actually a Christian and that therefore you have this stream of right wing Christian terrorism. That is a real danger and that America should be on the lookout for you when into any of those charges if you study this yourself. Maybe study Hitler or maybe you know more about Timothy McVeigh because you looked into this give us a call and tell us what you found or, conversely, if you believe that there is such a thing as Christian terrorism.

No one is denying that there have been Christians who have done vile things. No one is denying that there have been many professing Christians who are hypocrites, plain and simple, who have done vile things in the name of their faith, but the idea that just as you have a genuine expression of Islam that is radical and terroristic that you can also have a a legitimate expression of Christianity that is radical and terroristic, that is an absolutely false equation and it's a dangerous one because it will get people looking at followers of Jesus and very, very dangerous and skewed ways and that leads then to crazy things that can be done against Christians give you some examples may 2012 Billy Graham, then 93 years old and took out full-page ads in newspapers throughout North Carolina. He was addressing was in the upcoming vote on the definition of marriage, so the has had a large picture of a Billy Graham and carried his own words quoted 93 I never thought we have to debate the definition of marriage. The Bible is clear God's definition of marriage as between a man and a woman I want to urge my fellow North Carolinians to vote for the marriage amendment on Tuesday, May 8. God bless you as you vote. This was May 2012 saying vote for the marriage amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman away.

Besson who was an outspoken gay activists to see accused me of being a pathological monster trying to provoke a physical confrontation between Christians and gays that he's actually written those things and and more.

We pray for Wayne. He then wrote this in response to these assets so this is Rev. Billy Graham urging Christians to uphold. Marriage is the union of one man woman.

Pretty simple, right pretty basic. Nothing extreme about that.

Just what our culture is always held to what we've always known what most of world history with the rarest and rarest rarest of exceptions worldwide is always held to a recognized definition of marriage. There is, it requires at least one man one woman when Besson wrote this. I'm a little confused here. His eyes only lived in America it Graham is not trying to jam his own churches rules and doctrine down my throat.

The last I checked, and never signed up for the Billy Graham evangelistic Association, only the like his church that he thinks I should be forced against my will to live by its rules doing now make our civil laws based upon Christian sharia. Do we have, to follow his version of the Bible or be punished by the government, and if this is the case, it really a free country really much different than a wrong visit only by a matter of degrees or matter of time until the so-called Christian supremacists get their paws on all of our laws.

In other words, if you are saying that as Christians we should vote based on our biblical convictions, then that is no different than Christian sharia that we are becoming like Iran. We are now going to force everyone to live by our religion, but that these types of charges have been have been thrown at us since before wood when Besson wrote in 2012 and John McCandless Phillips of the late former Pulitzer Prize or Pulitzer Prize winning New York Times reporter pointed out how newspapers like the Washington Post of the New York Times told their readers. 2005 this that evangelicals and traditional Catholics were engaging in a G hot against America, so conservative Christians were now jihadist friends we been warning about this for years but this article by woman blue Warren Blumenthal reminded me that you are going to hear this more and more beyond the alert when you simply say you know I believe it's best for kids have a mom and a dad. But you know really Supreme Court ruled still recognize that God change the definition of marriage. Watch it will be equated with Isis and the tallow that Al Qaeda will rejoice that you being mocked for the gospel.

Recognize societal attitudes changing ways. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 66343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown walking back to the line of fire 866-34-TRUTH a 7884 2008 Marcus deletes us, founder of the radically left-leaning Daily wrote a book entitled American Taliban how war sex and empower buying jihadists and the radical right claiming that conservative Christians are the American Taliban.

He said the Republican Party entire modern conservative movement is in fact very much like the Taliban and folks I believe. I believe the folks like Marcos when Besson same things actually believe something to just throwing out empty words what they're saying is, is completely vacuous in terms of truth content, but a do they believe it.

Yes, I believe they believe it in their tactics on the issues are homegrown American Taliban are almost indistinguishable from the Afghan Taliban. The Republican Party and the entire modern conservative movement is in fact very much like Taliban in their tactics and on the issues are okay said that code that are ready I said it twice for some reason. Okay yeah I mean it quite quite remarkable. This is the only way to describe that and I could go on and on and on. 2012, MSNBC, Chris Matthews wants to tirade against a vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan calling Ryan's pro-life position extremism, saying it was almost like sharia in almost like sharia here. I'm just looking at post on my Facebook page in recent days.

You are just as ugly as Isis. This is posted on my Facebook page and asked Dr. Brown last response because we want to protect innocent babies in the womb because we care about marriage and family because we feed the poor and needy around the world because what the whole world to know how wonderful Jesus please be kind enough to explain your views of she didn't respond few days before that someone else posted this on my YouTube page. Kim Davis for the Kentucky County Clerk who went to jail rather than issue same-sex marriage certificates. Kim Davis is an Isis infiltrator in America with a mission to spread the most radical interpretation of sharia law. Isis needed a hero, John the our Joan of arc, and they found one in Kim Davis now did Othello posted that went by the name of the screen name of drama, no mean every word of that is he speaking in exaggerated terms. I can't speak for him. But there are people who do believe these things that that this is their conception of Christianity that the moment you say what you according to the Bible, you can't say that you bring into the public square. Separation of church and state. Don't you know that and when you just civil action. It's not what separation of church and state. Man's that's that with the founders when it came up with Thomas Jefferson he you certain terminology was it was to keep the state out of the church and there was always a mingling of faith and government in American history, not an imposition of the faith on others but mingling together in Congress praying for divine intervention in the Bible, whether used in in schools. The difference between that and an Islamic theocracy would be. You have religious Islamic leaders, really by force.

Everyone that doesn't obey their edicts getting put to death, or punished in prison were talking about is advocating in a Democratic Republic for our views and putting them forth, but you dare do that. Charlie met a guy named Charlie said Kim Davis by Richard to find the Constitution the Supreme Court is no better than those men conceived, executed and plotted those attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11 and on and on. She is a religious terrorist along the order of Osama bin Laden and Isis. I will get your take on this but friends.

This is the rhetoric that's out there and a disturbing article from England we come back.

People with no religion exceeding Christians in England and Wales. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown, the climate has changed medical climate has changed dramatically in America and as my friend Prof. Darrell Bock said my head on the air last week talking about his new book, how Jesus vote that in the past we could point to the Bible and say it's true because it's in the Bible. In other words, if we were making a point to hate this is what the Bible says the emphasis being it's true because it's in the Bible. He said now we have to change our argument to the general public to the world and say it's in the Bible because it's true change.

Atmospheric change 866-34-TRUTH you hear this more and more radical Christian Terrace.

You Christians are no different than Isis as as obscene and absurd and ugly as that is the cuisine of the political campaigns that you just get a slogan out about somebody you get a mean mouth IEEE you associate a person's name was something and and it's hard to shake. It's hard to shake. Automating that we can't shake these things personally that it's like water off a ducks back to us. I mean that in the eyes of the world. We have these obstacles to overcome.

So this report in the Alexandra Sims on Monday. The rising proportion of people who describe themselves as not ascribing to any type of religion considerably outnumbers Christian people in England and Wales and the studies found in 2014, 48.5% of people said they had no religion or were quote nuns compared to 43.5% of people who identified as Christians.

And let's remember that a lot of those who identify as Christians are Christians in name only. Now you begin to speak up for the gospel.

Now you begin to stand up for your faith and in you are in an unusual position in America and England in terms of one that can increasingly be viewed as a minority position in America. Those who say they have no religious affiliation.

What are they may be 15% as as as opposed to in a hard-core atheists and things like that. Maybe it's 1520% of the population that would either be completely God denying or saying we have no religious affiliation still have over 70% of Americans who profess to be Christians because it is often a shallow skin deep Christianity because of the acts of radical Islam. When we stand up for what's right right beheading people around the world. Christians are being beheaded where we are not forcing people if you don't pray observe the Sabbath. You don't do this or that can be flogged and go to jail. Though these things are being done by Islamic extremists to others who will not go their way, including fellow Muslims around the world. We are standing up for life. We are standing up for marriage. We are standing up for family and we're willing to pay a price to do it when I'm here to take life really give life and yet the rhetoric will be. You are no better than carrier just like Isis and Al Qaeda. It's south, there is not enough to cause bigots and homophobes and transforms it has to go for the we worry about this for years but it's getting more shrill these days, 86634 let's go to Tinton Falls, New Jersey Mike, welcome to the line of fire ran over to Porter to bring the good parts or IQ. As you know the Scriptures are the boss of the nation regarding the Lord.

What part of that is cursed as a nation, but God isn't the Lord, and you can see that Europe Carnoustie America okay because because of what we can with the efforts of Dr. Stampfer stop raving okay and and you can see that Martin Luther King your medulla, what were were vertical communists okay is that the devil deals utilized okay and we got we got Connie conservatives who will embrace a racist white light lot light like from okay got lion liberals will but before some right there except for an unborn child.

Oratory are they have no morals in terms of our right and wrong in terms of any kind of banter, though it if it's a work this nation is a great war, about one Revelation 17 and if you and knows it.

It's like just like you and Peter. Those refugees there that there actually a holy nation. Okay.

Because of that they don't they don't have an actual flag located there there there flag block and that their multiethnic or multi-no lingual and and everything would be an and the persecuted even though it is at fault for not doing harm to anyone or aftermarket about the amount doing a study by but a bit better every cursed it's it's it's interesting it's an interesting thing like an end.

By the way, I it is and wants to response any of the comments that were made about by liberals or racist Donald Trump or any things like that. Feel free to call and you could. Mike expressed his viewpoint of this can express. There is one I want to focus on on this point till Mike that you mention really what what is it that Christians are doing and other parts of the world or in the ancient world.

What were Christians actually doing what are we actually doing that's producing the persecution what one of the Christians been doing say in Iraq and Syria been slaughtered and mowed down and and and and exiled their existing Christians. I'm in imperfect people, but I mean they got persecuted for being Christians and is Mike reference Peter rights that were rare aliens were strangers were resident aliens. We live in this country we are citizens here, but is not our ultimate citizenship. It's not our ultimate homeland. While the hatred it would be one thing if we were engaged in terrorist types of acts if we were engaged of of taking over the nation with religious clerics in the leadership and enforcing our religion on the entire nation. It's another thing when were seeking to honor the Lord your you you work in front of an abortion mill and you share the gospel there and reach out you can be loving, compassionate you can be a young mom with your kids there and people will cursed you up and down and threaten you and you said hey there's a better way or hate. Have you have you looked into the option of adoption or can we help you and your family in any way and in you will get ridiculed and reviled. It's a spiritual battle.

It's a spiritual battle. That's what we must understand Mike, thanks for calling and weighing in 866-34-TRUTH so they go back to this article by Dr. Warren J. Blumenfeld and Matt know we shouldn't.

We should see if you'd like to come on the air and discuss these things. He seems to be an educated man and serious about his convictions. He speaks of the Crusades and the acts of the Crusaders of we do understand that there were atrocities committed in the midst of the Crusades, but for the most part, the Crusades began as defensive wars to retake land that was taken by Muslim invaders there. There is a context to the Crusades. Let's also remember that it's a thousand years from Jesus. A thousand years from Jesus. Until the Crusades wears when you look at radical Islam radical Islamic practices of radical Islam exist right in the beginning, the practices radical Islam.

The violent acts. The enforcing of Islam on on others.

Those those were in the early days of Islam to been there through the centuries. Plus you have numerous numerous numerous texts in Islamic literature. The Cron hadith that can support radical Islam. Others would look at those text differently but you have these text you don't have that the Gospels don't have that epistles don't have that in the New Testament, the teaching of Jesus.

You don't, but Dr. Blumenfeld punch the Crusades and I've I've renounced the Crusades of this refinance. The Crusades, aside from recognizing that there was war being fought against Muslims in those days, and in seeking to retake land from Muslims understand that listen to listen to what Dr. Bothell writes Hitler was a radical Christian terrorist as well as the entirety of the Nazi party.

He asks which news outlets call Timothy McVeigh. The convicted perpetrator zero, city bombing of the Alfred P were a federal building April 1995, a radical Christian terrorist will.

The fact is, he wasn't wasn't a radical Christian terrorist was a white supremacist who is not in any shape, size or form a Christian man.

That's why it was widely reported as a radical Christian Terrace because he wasn't nor were there Christian texts of terror on which he could rely as opposed to him. Islam he said he referred to the illegal occupiers and for the last 41 days in Oregon, led by Emma Bundy as radical Christian Terrace same answer. There what were their texts of terror from the Christian Bible and what were they doing in the name of Jesus that was in harmony with Christianity and that was going to lead to violent confrontation with the government was elastomeric members of the myriad social white supremacist gives the explanatory nation called radical Christian Terrace close to the home. There problem was they have no Christian support for the doing their white supremacist plain simple who abused across the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown.

Let's take a look at the words of Jesus issue of life version of the Bible.

The answer to the charge of Christian terrorism that that when Ku Klux Klan in the past or some more contemporary sure this livable contemporary white supremacist group does something in the name of Christian identity in a work this is who we are and and it's it's atrocious it's violets calling for violent acts against others. This is why they are not Christian. She was is this blessed many truly happy are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven, blessed are those who mourn for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called sons of God, but those who been persecuted for the sake of righteousness for the heirs of the kingdom of heaven the city when people revile you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil against you falsely on account of me.

Rejoice and be glad for reward in heaven is great from the same way they persecuted the prophets were before you know it you're not going to be the ones doing the persecuting. You're not going to be the ones on the attack you are going to be the ones being attacked for your faith. Listen. Listen to what the Lord says as he sends out his his disciples, his is Tommy Dean as he sends them out.

TEC says be as wise as snakes but as harmless as doves.

Methodist 1016 behold, I'm sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves not as walls devouring sheep but as sheep in the the midst of wolves and this is this a disciple is not above his teacher, nor slave of his master.

It is enough for the disciple to become like his teacher and the slave like his master. If they've called the head of the house be eligible devil himself.

How much more the members of his household, so do not fear them, for there's nothing concealed that will not reveal nothing hidden that will not be made known. Aces do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.

Instead fear the one who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gahanna. You're not the ones killing people, you might be killed. You're not the ones killing people here listen listen to this.

You've heard that it was said, you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your father in heaven because the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the on righteous and then and listen to what Paul writes as he addresses these themes look he was persecuted he was beaten he suffered greatly did he argue for retaliation. It's one thing in the midst of a war to defend yourselves. So for example if America was invaded by some Muslim Army, it would be right for us to defend ourselves in the midst of war, for sure, and if you can't defend yourself, you can fleet that doesn't mean that now is Christians that that we go around to areas looking for someone might persecute us. We can blow their brains out. No, that's not what believers are going to do so.

This is what Paul writes, listen to this in Romans chapter 12, again reading from the tree of life version.

Bless those who persecute you. Bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep, live in harmony with one another cannot be proud that associate with the lowly.

Do not be wise in your own eyes repay no one evil for evil give thought to what is good in the eyes of all people, if possible, so far as it depends on you living shalom with all people never take your own revenge. Love once the give room for God's wrath for this written, vengeance is mine, I will repay, says Adonai rather if your enemy is hungry for him if he is thirsty, give him a drink for. By doing so you will keep keep coals of fire upon his head. Apparently a metaphor for deep repentance or shame. Verse 21. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Here one more example of how we are to conduct ourselves, this time from first Peter and listen to what Peter says here first Peter talking about how we respond to persecution to opposition what he says he's calling slaves to follow the example of Jesus recalling all of us to pieces for you were called to this, because Messiah also suffered for you, leaving you an example so that you might follow in his footsteps.

He committed no sin there was any deceit found in his mouth when he was abused he did not return the abuse.

While suffering he made no threats. Instead, he kept entrusting himself to the one who judges righteously. He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree so that we remove from sends, might live for righteousness by his wounds you were healed. How to respond evil for evil attack for attack. No overcoming evil with good blessing. Those who curse us not reviling those who revile us all the more not beheading people who won't convert to Christianity befriends the accusations will be out there let us by our behavior by our attitude fire words. Let us refute these false and ugly and dangerous accusations some years back or friends, a biologist PhD in biology was with the Lord now she was participating in a pro-life event with a number of other ladies and I believe it was in upstate New York. She had traveled there from Maryland. If I'm correct the location. She was part of this event and all of the women that were there. The men that were protesting that were sitting peacefully in front of the abortion clinic. They were arrested and put on a bus to be taken down to the police precinct and this should be processed basically moved on and somehow a pro-abortion woman was arrested as well.

They thought she was one of them and they're all handcuffed on the bus and she is sitting there quaking and shaking like a leaf. She is terrified because she is on the bus with all of these horrible women. These hateful, horrible, dangerous women that's what she thought.

She's terrified they begin to love her and tells the truth about who they are and share the gospel with her and she got wonderfully born again is that the plan of God is that the way the Lord works.

She got wonderfully born again and became a follower of Jesus.

When she met real Christians, so the accusations you become the equating us with the Taliban with Al Qaeda with ISIS with Hitler with the KKK.

That's all the come you can expect it, but it does come, he wears a badge of honor because it comes because of your association with Jesus. But now overcome that lie with the truth and demonstrate what real followers of Jesus look like, sound like this, live this out and they can impact my bottom line together, all words are important but even more the testimony of our life is no will lost and hostile right is a time for evangelicals to just say Donald Trump is our man and we throw ourselves in with him. It's time for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown, so there's some really interesting discussion among conservatives and among believers. There are conservatives like David French attorney David French, who are advocating for someone else to jump in at the was an alternative to Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton and he's written an article is a longtime friend of Mitt Romney say Mitt Romney run for president. Then you have voices like Dennis Prager, conservative talk show host, author with his response to his conservative never Trump friends urging them to abandon their never Trump stance, then you have men like conservative radio host Steve days saying that if you get in bed with Donald Trump as evangelical Christians, you're making a terrible, terrible mistake. Then you have folks like another conservative journalist moment Sharon saying that look of Hillary Clinton selected is not the end of the world because the Republicans can resist if they have the majority can resist her radical appointees to the Supreme Court, so on and so forth. I would hate to put my trust in the Republican Party to hold back with Hillary Clinton might want to do. To be candid, but there's a lot of this discussion going on and less than a month from now was June 21. There is a meeting with to be 500 evangelicals maybe more. Some of the best-known leaders in the nation. Meeting with Donald Trump not to formally endorse him not to attack him but to do their best to really probe who he is what he believes and why where he's gonna stand on issues that are important to us. I did get an invitation from the mean amateur how the invitations were sent out that a colleague said that I was invited and 70 invitation only to be in Australia then so I can't be there. I gladly would have if I could have but I'll be in Australia and I wouldn't going there with a hostile mentality.

I wouldn't going there with with a mean-spirited attitude.

I going there really listening and trying to discern because look any politician worth his or her salt is going to tell people what they want to hear right, to the extent they can tell people what they want to hear and and whether they believe it or not to say it, so I would expect him to have all the right answers the question is when he hold to them.

In other words, would these be his actual positions or with these renegotiating positions. Remember he's now backtracked from certain things he said that rounded a lot of the support a lot of the extreme things that he said that got everybody behind him.

He's now this. He said you can negotiate and in other words, if if this piece of property in my estimation is worth a million and you're selling it for for 1.4 million and I'm a negotiator. My come in and say I give a 600,000 for this. It's crazy you know and then cigarette will commence 1.2 million dogs to give 800,000 for no way your goals. Getting to meet in a million.

So is that what Donald Trump is doing listen I hope I hope that whether he is sincere or not that he'll end up doing the right things. If elected, I hope that whether he understands what it means to be a Christian or not that he'll stand up for many Christian values. That's what I'm hoping for but I want to give you some of the reasons that folks are saying just get behind him reasons focusing not to, and then go to some very interesting my friend Sid Roth wants to discuss with me publicly. My questions about Donald Trump who came from a private meeting with him with a few of the leaders recently and deal with some of the common objections that come up as to why many silica couldn't vote for him in good conscience so amazingly, Sid my evangelist to draw. Sullivan said you have a political conversation right here on the line of fire. Later in this hour, 866-34-TRUTH if you're never Trump or Linda Trump Call in tell me why it's the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown and got help these people not time a politics for moment here we sent this article earlier today have I been documenting the stuff in recent years. I documented some and outlasting the gay revolution documented some on my video and article on the man became a woman than a mythical Dragon but we just posted on the*about Facebook page of the men who live as dogs quote were just the same as any person on the High St., Joey into my Facebook page and check this out. You and pops like to live in packs, play with squeaky toys eat from bowls and nuzzle their handlers ahead of a new documentary spot, toothbrush, and Kaz open up those of the dog names are in the got to see the picture you got to see the picture. Trust me, I wish I could just broadcast this out everyone with driving in your car sitting at work or home or your jogging and listening or wherever your I wish you could see this picture. Oh my God help these confused people also on the*about Facebook page. My testimony newly recorded enhanced with sound effects and written text. That's what an amazing job with Donna on this by some of my friends with one for Israel.

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Feel free to call and ensure what if you're an evangelical who feels is no question that God is going to use Donald Trump or that he's the man for the job.

Feel free to call in and share why you hold this so here's what Dennis Prager says in his article response to my conservative never Trump friends. He gives nine reasons why being Hillary Clinton trumps ideological purity.

So let me let me give his list here all right. He said here that are nine reasons. There are more where conservatives should prefer a Trump presidency to that of the Democrat won, which prevents a left-wing Supreme Court to will increase the defense budget. Three. It would repeal or at least modify Dodd Frank for would prevent Washington DC from becoming estate and giving the Democrats another to permanent centers five would repeal Obama care six will curtail illegal immigration. The goal is nothing necessarily do with xenophobia or nativism to see Western Europe seven would reduce job killing regulations on large and small businesses eight would lower the corporate income tax and bring back hundreds of billions of offshore dollars United States nine.

Continue fracking which the left and its science rejecting hysteria opposes practices for these reasons I like my friends. I could live with my conscience if I voted in any way that help the America destroying left win the presidency of our endangered country.

I just don't understand how anyone who understands the threat the left and the Democrats post America refused to vote for the only person who can stop them now. Dennis Prager has frequently frequently spoken out against Donald Trump. He said I devoted many hours of radio and many columns to criticizing Donald Trump is virtually assured nomination is therefore cause me grief is an American Republican and a conservative that his character defects gaps in knowledge and some important issues and having no set of identifiably conservative principles came to me little to many Republican voters is been quite troubling and he says never Trump conservative, such as in alphabetical order. Jonah Goldberg, Crystal Ben Shapiro Britt Stevenson George will not really people I admire their friends and colleagues. He said, but in the final analysis, I do not find their arguments compelling.

Now that Dennis Prager is definitely definitely more politically savvy on wider ranges of issues than I are there things that I understand well there things run quite strike. I could give very helpful information to Dennis Prager on moral and cultural and social issues.

But the government as a whole. Politics as a whole, America in terms of these types of political issues. Dennis Prager's former student that I am, and some of the items on his list. I'm not deeply familiar with Hartford, for example, will you know fracking issue freaks. I just haven't followed that in in-depth to give to give one example or look at the arguments pro and con. The obvious question is, would Donald Trump actually do all these things would do do we know, the lower the corporate income tax and bring back hundreds of billions of offshore dollars United States. I would think so based on what he says and who he is as a businessman, Woody Ono, we repeal Obama care with the secret place or something worse. I mean, these are these are fair questions to ask. So some might say what will the list is too long. The list is is too idealistic. Although no one could accuse Dennis Prager being a Trump idealist well what about this. The first one.

Prevent a left-wing Supreme Court wouldn't that in and of itself be enough wouldn't be enough to just say Donald Trump is given a list of justices. Obviously, with help from Heritage foundation people that he would like to point people like Justice Scalia logistically as it is a rare bird in terms of everything that he brought to the table he's put that list. Fourth, we can be 100% sure that none of those people would be on a Hillary Clinton list assures we could be in that people whose views would would be radically different than ours and many many critically important issues would be appointed and that could throw the nation into social chaos. So just for that reason that's been Prager's strongest argument just for the Supreme Court shipment people vote for Donald Trump if they are conservatives will result moment Sharon responded, not not directly to Dennis Prager that see his article came out at me there right around the same time she was, not directly responding to it to him. I think your article came out right before his anyway. She says the past few days of featured hectoring demands of never Trump people to get over these have come not just for the more bullying precincts of Trump fandom as as and get on the Trump training get run over, but also from party regulars and officeholders, suggesting that failure to endorse Trump now is a kind of stubborn self-indulgence quote while you sit out Hillary gets elected, of one of my critics uses this is a binary choice that completely clear. As of this writing. In other words, could it be that end up being three candidates were some of the suggested you could end up with four but let's just say it's a choice between Hillary and and Trump. It is possible that voters in swing states who declined to support Trump may be assisted. Clinton.

This is not a secret so never Trump voters may have to live with that miserable outcome rather than violate their consciences by voting for an authoritarian ignoramus that so she characterizes Donald Trump and she she gives her arguments. She gives her arguments and says look there are other ways to look at this. I just read Dennis Prager's point let me give you some of hers. She said one of the main points when the points that the never Trump people are stresses that there were two equally painful possible outcomes of the Trump domination he loses or he wins there both disasters.

In her view he said the Democrats remain the majority party in presidential contest having one fiber the past six popular votes. They begin with an average of 247, 296 electoral college advantage. That said, Hillary Clinton, they will be the only major political figure, the country could possibly lose a general election to Donald Trump so what you say then if if if really he could beat her and keep her radical pro-abortion radical pro-LGBT extreme activist positions her other positions that Menefee is a socialist as Bernie Sanders but would further reinforce the president's health care system, Obama care, etc. what about that and she says will listen listen if Hillary Clinton's president united Republican party will poser a similar Republican control how she will not be able to pass a single piece of liberal legislation. She may attempt issues promised on the campaign trail through by Executive Order in the matter of Obama. If she does, there will be a push back the Republicans. Just this month a federal judge ruled in favor of the House of Representatives in its suit against Obama's use of executive orders and implementation of Obama care. She nominates terrible judges to the federal courts, Republican senators and Republicans of the Seneca declined to confirm it. That's the problem. There could could decline to confirm what they I don't have a lot of confidence in the backbone of the Republican Party these days and if they would be the one stopping Hillary Clinton a collective level of confidence that they do it with consistency. What you think that her and it's the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown reference to draw and he wants to encourage evangelicals, conservatives to consider voting for Donald Trump and as much as he recognizes that Donald Trump is not a Christian.

Donald Trump does not know the Lord love you he thinks of himself as a Christian sit wants to give reasons why he believes voters should vote from my eye. I am not a never Trump are telling everyone.

Don't vote for during the primaries when when Sen. Chris Marco Rubio, Sen. Rubio and others were were candidates.

I sounded strong alarms. I raised all of my concerns as to why he was, not the man that we wanted to elect as is the Republican candidate. I say we am an independent but that's the only way I could vote because of the stances of of the Democrats and their their worldview and their ideology and things like that.

But I made clear. I'm sending these alarms as we have other options. Now that we don't have other offices, at least as it appears that were looking it at most likely Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump.

I am not urging you not to vote for him. I don't know that I could if the election was today ice still don't believe that I could and conscience vote for him and all Alex interact with sit on but I'm not. I campaign telling everyone not there others who are raising strong concerns. One is my radio colleague on the sale network Steve Dace and he has written an article on conservative dear Christian leaders are playing a very dangerous game and he he with humility.

Thanks Christian leaders, he honors them and he says that that the letter is coming from a place of concern more than criticism. The city struggles with the critical spirit, which is why he's waited several weeks before writing the letter and he started and stopped several times when nature is his. His heart was in the right place.

So he says if you are supporting Donald Trump or flirting with doing so you are playing a very dangerous game. There is something a moral, biblical or even strategic case for doing so. Near as I can tell if I'm wrong then let us come down and reason together services first thing holiness and characters of more value in the kingdom than ideological correctness.

And you know those disabled Donald Trump is just like David is. David committed adultery, murder, David was contrite. David was in agony. David David pleaded with God for mercy and recognize the depth of his sin and not only so, although God forgave him and allow David serve the Lord with distinction in so many ways.

The rest of his life before that and after that the whole nation did suffer as soon as a result of his sins on the moral level, according Steve Dace Trump is a scam artist to gossip or slander misogynist and adultery deceiver, a liar, you say it yet but I like his policies. The question is what are his policies really or if elected, what will be his policies. You say okay look here's the deal. It's like it's like the let's make a deal show and this is me is that Steve Dace you've you've got the let's make a deal and you've got the two doors behind one of the one behind door number two you to pick behind door number one you know is a box filled with poisonous snakes you want to want printable behind door number two might be the million dollars. It it might be a box full of mud might be a box full of tarantulas. It might be a key to a new car, you don't know which typically picture number two right. Obviously, as you know, it's behind the other various door number two. Maybe you get some good. So that would be the argument that it maybe is a deceiver and a liar and scam artist and can be trusted.

But maybe he will do. He says right that would that would be the argument so he says a strategic level. He said there there three archetypes of politicians in the Scriptures, Josiah the true statesman Hezekiah the typical politician, Ahab, a pure megalomaniac whose only motivation is his own ego elevation and experiences, and Hezekiah was a was a statesman, Anna Anna politician a negative sense. Hezekiah did a lot of good, but then had some weaknesses I would just bring was a typical politician is is my friend Steve this year. Ahab, a pure megalomaniac. According to Steve Dace Trump is in 1/2 is unlike anything we've ever dealt with before is not a rhino Republican in name only. He's a republic rat or any other kind of Hezekiah type. He won't even pander to on the bathroom issue when it would help them.

Why because you're all nothing but marks to him. He is utterly and undeniably shameless is a sort of figure we read about in history books that are raving mad men. Hitler type and those making such comparisons are intellectually lazy and should be dismissed.

There is Trump even a kind of megalomaniac Obama is the Soviet era style ruthless pursuit of Marxism. Rather, Trump is merely a conqueror convinced that if he is calling all the shots the world would be a better place is a law unto himself. In our day and age. Alpha males are few and far between.

Steve Dace writes so much so that many believe Trump is an alpha but is not like most tyrants, is deeply insecure and goes onto back that up and anyone anyway.

His point is his point is if you elect in Ahab, it will destroy the nation in other ways. If you will act in Ahab, it will drag down the nation. Other ways so that both of the choices are wrong and you have to do other things outside of one of these two choices to do what's best for America.

That's what Steve Dace says that's his position so we will will discuss that one of my friends said give his viewpoint and if you're never Trump are under no circumstances can I vote for Trump. I still am reluctant to vote for Trump: tell us what if you believe Trump is the man you been a longtime supporter of leaders, even a prophetic destiny or something like that give us a call 86634 all right. I'm holding in my hands the tree of life version of the Bible produced now by Baker books and old. Let's just see. This is suites are open to John for Yeshua offers living water.

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Focus on Israel. The next day. We can talk about moral and cultural issues. The day after that and it's it's what I often hear from our listeners. One of the things that you enjoy most is the variety of what we cover and I love it when people come up to me and say you know when I see something happening in the news. I know you to be covered under you to be articulating what I feel what I want to say on your radio show in your articles within the next day so since the elections are ever before us, we can have an interesting discussion. Now Sid Ross and I have been friends for over 30 years. I first recorded my testimony on his radio show. Back in 1984 is first first house on his radio show.

You've heard his radio show. For years you've seen is it supernatural TV show and would sit and I talk with them out winning souls retirement Israel time of salvation. When we talk about these things all the time.

Maybe a Bible question.

Maybe some of the Holy Spirit's doing, but Sid and I recently had a discussion about Donald Trump and I said I said let's let's have this conversation on the air.

So without further ado, maybe the one only time you hear political discussion between Sid Roth and made Sid. Welcome to the line of fire.

Excited beyond what you away. You know that when you shared your testimony and ended up in a book called a thought for themselves which we have distributed over 3 million to predominantly Jewish households throughout the world that spies not small beginning to like yeah that's absolute and that's in multiple languages right that's correct 10 languages 10 while II knew three or four writing about 10 include incredible incredible so so sent out. You want a couple weeks ago sharing some amazing things you seen with Jewish evangelism souls come into the kingdom, but you recently when a small meeting with Donald Trump and some other Christian leaders and you have been one that was planning to vote for Trump for some time now, so we got a couple minutes in the segment that we can expand and then I've invited my listeners to call in if they agree or disagree with you but what what your bottom-line reason with with recognizing Donald Trump's weaknesses and recognizing that is not a true Christian and track record.

All this is to be brought against him.

Why are you openly saying we need to vote for.

Okay, for starters, if someone is a Christian based on experiential knowledge, there's very little likelihood they give me President of the United States. Now, if there churchgoers they can so much my spin is this I saw something by the spirit.

It's sort of like before I was born again before I ever became an evangelist.

I was a good salesman. You know why God put back gifting in me and then when I came to know the Lord. I could use it for his glory rather than from my glory and same thing with Donald Trump. The first thing that I noticed about him after God really gave me a desire to learn more about him and this was when he was first starting to run for president was his family.

I mean anyone that had a couple divorces and has children that are so together and love him and I get all the keyword might honor him.

I don't know if you caught this, but I caught the eye. I so there's something in his heart, and this is what I believe, but the spirit is true. I believe that he has a father's heart, as illustrated in his relationship with his sons and daughters, but I believe that he has the potential in him.

There will come a point jump in and something else is on the other side friends. If using the said simply call if you never come And feel it's a disaster vote for him. Give us a call. 866-34-TRUTH file. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown back to the modifier testimonies brand-new production by testimony.

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If you are in the never Trump camp under no circumstances could you vote for him even if some would say was a vote for Hillary Clinton. Feel free to give us a call if you're passion supportive. Donald Trump give us a call and will grab some calls to interact with my guest and friend Sid Roth so said you were saying that when you saw Trump's family that you notice that they they honored him, which would mean that those who were closest to him, so some redeeming qualities in him II guess that you would see you just can't buy that with money can't buy your family's allegiance but I saw and actually had a chance to meet Donald Trump. Personally I meet is one of his sons personally and it's real. I can tell you there's honor there. So what I see, Mike is he will win now, so I'm not prophesying this, but that's what I see and in somewhere within his time of being president. We all know there's there's going to be a horrific time coming whether it's terrorism, whether it's the economy, whether it's race relations, whatever it is there's gonna be. He's gonna have to get on his knees. Now a lot of people don't know this but his grand father was one of the prominent names in the heck that it in the Hebrides revival debate and I believe he's got that revival Jean inside his jeans. It's passed on to him and I see him on his knees in the White House with a horrific occasion that not that all of his positive thinking Norman Vincent feel it's not going to help him and he is going to be touched by God, I see a tenderness deep within him to be sensitive to God he's not there now, no, no, no, don't mishear what I'm saying but I'm telling you, I see that now, on a pragmatic basis. I don't know anyone else that will stretch to build a wall and will do it will be able to do it like Donald Trump and that alone could by having no control over immigration no control over terrorists coming into our country down alone is worth can be present but then it will be anywhere from 1 to 3. If you know Supreme Court justices appointed. I like his is better than the best list that the Democrats will ever come up with admin of the abortion issue here is against abortion, and he is personally said that with Planned Parenthood he would only fun things like mammograms and stuff like that but no problem. They don't know that most people don't know what they don't do that. So he is that you won't find abortion with Planned Parenthood. As far as Israel goes he has stated he will have the US Embassy in Jerusalem and I want to just applaud through the roof tops jumped ship to the rooftop when I heard that and I believe that the reason he says he wants said he wanted to be neutral as he wants to make a deal like every president, most the presidents before him to have peace in the Middle East and an oak at the Nobel Peace Prize. But you and I know he's not going to be able to do that and so he was just doing his dealmaking style, but I believe he will be the greatest president in the world against anti-Semitism and against anti-Israel sentiment. We certainly know that Democratic position as it is of these times right now as far as the military. I think the greatest prevention of ever having an invasion and and and having our enemies not come after us is a strong military. I believe he'll be a great strong military man and so it is partially economy would much rather have him than any Republican or Democrat we've had in the past. To change the economy and its attempt to jump in and we got our phone lines appear mentally just lease a couple things ourselves just disturb you that he has given completely contradictory statements to different groups, depending on who he's talking to or completely reversed himself on position. Sometimes three times within 48 hours with late reversal than repudiating one thing repudiating another thing and it will if he's trying to cater to conservatives. He knows he needs conservative votes. Why would he say anything different, anything but even the plate interfaces. Like you, he would want to fund the the bad things at Planned Parenthood says, but they do a lot of wonderful things who who is who in the world. It's pro-life would ever say a good word about Planned Parenthood. If you really pro-life so doesn't this give you cause for concern in terms of we really don't know who he be and what you do if elected well, I think given her some bottom lines and I do know the bottom line from the Democratic side, and would let out through the question right around back to you Mike, would you rather see the best Democrat in the world. What would you rather see Donald Trump in the White House and I know your answer, of course, we breathlessly Donald Trump and the white out I'm saying for an unsaved man.

I don't like intimacies on the state because I don't know that. But I do know for someone that is not really knowledgeable of the Bible is acting the way I would expect him to act now I my happy over now but I think he's thinking on his feet.

I do think that he has been consistent saying that he is anti-abortion. Pro-life and his list of supplanted and I do not listen when hearsay. The leading edge it just the other larger consent. If you have someone that could be out of control that could have the power like no other person in the world other than the present United States has that could potentially lead us into a nested unnecessary war could alienate allies could downgrade the culture of America just to extends to the vulgarity and insults that you know that just like the Bill Clinton presidency and his skin was Monica Lewinsky. Definitely lowered certain sexual standards and mindset that so it's at least with Hillary Clinton. We know this can be all-out war the Republicans you have to push back against her in Christians you have to wake up Donald Trump.

It could be destruction in another direction but but say what, let's let's get some callers to interact out of state their their view briefly and then you can respond will start in Wichita Falls, Texas, rents, and if you could give your brief reason why you will not vote for Donald Trump and I will give Sue the opportunity to respond may perform truck driver. I will not vote for Trump. Reason being because it first burst of formal literary talk individual. The all he cares about is making money and I'm not really worried about it is political view of what worked them politically because he got the wrong arrangement you constantly assaulting Army involved in limiting the bulk of the Mexican and the last thing you need is someone of his stature spot whatever to get up there not to get up there at holding the position of a president and then turn around and say something again month-long to say something against any other nation are Allied and especially Israel. That's a big no-no.

God is no bartender and you don't need. I president or someone like him is that there's a little plate know if I Israel is our best ally and not billowing got not the only one really neat but I just jump into so only get to see more and thank you sir for weighing in on another date, we extended a bit, said what about the fact that God resists the proud that Donald Trump seems to be all about himself and that he could do some things that could be disastrous as a president. I don't know too many people that have run have been president that aren't arrogant and proud and I believe he's going to come down to his knees but the truth of the matter is on bed all humans in life that really sold out to God and contacted Kelly. I know a lot of people bitter.

Kristin Van Dorn is trustworthy as I would like but the truth of the matter is God's in control. The truth of the matter is there is no way in the world anyone could convince me that it isn't supernatural that he's going to be our our our candidate for president.

I'm a bit of people he'd updated show don't want you and he should've lost. I believe it's God's hand and yes all the things that disturb you might get in the end the guests but just called, they disturb me to but I can just tell you that they're all flawed individuals, I mean everyone talks about why can't we get our Pres. Reagan, who had a witch in the White House fireplace. Like I said so is a case this is this is where heaven is session. I finally said, I hope you're right. I absolutely hope you're right. I'm not trying to tell everyone.

Don't vote for Donald Trump not, I hope you're right.

I more calls like that. Hey this is Michael Brown.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown, who expected talking politics. Politics is not separated from others life with my friend Sid Roth believes that we should vote for Donald Trump and that W sent many positive ways. A silver falling to Jan I want to get to some more callers in a moment but superquick. I talked to some other colleagues who were with you in this recent meeting with Donald Trump. They said the same thing that others have said, who met with him privately that he was very humble that you completely different demeanor than the the public persona that can be looked at is positive. If you look at is negative that that this extreme double mindedness that the one that's kind and and nice and humble and listening. And the guy who gets a publicly and trashes others to set schizophrenia concerning I can tell you this that I go with my mind than I can have a list while I come why I don't. But if I go with the Bible and my spirit. Why do I say in my spirit because God puts presidents and kings in office and if I go with my spirit if I go with my mind I can find enough good things about Trump compared to anyone else that I want my goal with my spirit, I'm telling you, Mike.

I think he has the most potential of a man that will be sensitive to hearing God's not there now. Not even close.

But I'm telling you by my spirit and I'm telling you by my mind. You have to choices not vote or vote for someone that you do know can't win three choices are all vote for Republican or Democrat, and I think our bid. American blood has been shed to buy the right to vote and it's totally irresponsible to not choose the best for one purpose so that we will have a country that can do what it's called to do and that's preach the gospel to the four corners of the earth. I see more chance of our country being great under Donald Trump than I do. Under the best Democrat they could run got it all right my unclear let's go to Greensboro, North Carolina.

Isaiah welcome to the line of fire. Thank you Dr. Brown. My problem electronic all along of man that I view him as petty and vindictive and I have had. McCarthy running against Hillary have developed a technique that will allow me to get past that and I don't mind Sharon and I take Montgomery my forefinger and apply it strongly, no and pull the lever because I cannot vote got it so you you would ultimately seal before God that you could do that with conscience and other words that on some level you are responsible to get selected that you are participant in that so it's unpleasant to, but ultimately you could say I feel it's the right thing to do absolutely have a board what had happened to our country, a black American, and just about bore what the first black American president has done to our country and I hear what will happen if we then get To suffer through eight years of Hillary.

So with all that and my strong conviction as a Christian I just cannot and will not vote for Hillary Clinton. So it's not a drop in our home about. I love unclear and you speak so many others in that regard as well. Let's go to Frank in Des Moines, Iowa.

Welcome to the line of fire copy. A letter to help figure vote of both, but not against Hillary about and I have no problem with people uploading her conscience with never, never drop that turned into an active campaign beating. That's where I have an issue.

There's a guy out there named Lance Wallin do yeah let's one out and he puts forth the idea that Trump grand Scottish grandmother brought him up in the tradition of John Knox and that basically Trump was going to be a sledgehammer to the papacy. I just wanted your thoughts on thank you yet. Sure, sure thing that's appreciate the call Frank. Okay and candor of the spirit of John Knox type thing on trial a minute. I look at him as anything but John Knox to be honest. However, the idea of him being a divine wrecking ball with something that Lance Warner has said that one of this is a whole other stuff can smash notices that someone else can have to come in after Trump and rebuilt again. We shall see. Let's go back said we've got limited limited time.

I wish it gets to more calls. Most of them look at the screen say that they will be voting for it for Donald Trump/the Republican candidate you know Dr. Lance warm out we know there ARE prophecies out there.

We've seen for years. Some of them are accurate. Some of them or not it's dangerous to base of vote on someone else's prophecy either direction, but your views within about a minute, said your views that were Pro Donald Trump where they influenced a lot by by words like Lance one hour. This is something you can to independently came to an independent like you know there's a word I haven't used yet and describe describing Trump I sleep, Trump will be great patriot and I unlike many of the people I even interview, I think, potentially the greatest season for evangelism the greatest season for America to prosper under a Donald Trump yes I see the pitfalls but I see the potential IC zero on the other side I speak zero for people that refuse to vote. Got it, and the argument that to be brought is that the only awakenings in a come as if everything goes down around us.

The things you vote for candidates.

This can bring everything down. Even if I believed that things would have to get worse before they got better, I wouldn't personally vote for someone that I knew would make them or say said your your passionate like you said before you were saved, you have the gift of salesman now use it for the Lord you've made your case loud and clear for others to hear so out factor these things and we got months before the elections we need to be praying for the candidates but said thanks for joining us and keep winning. Our people to Yeshua. That's my passion. Yeah I know it all right so we have our linear one and only political discussion but like I said said, I hope you're right. I absolutely hope you're right. Thanks for it. Thanks for joining us today. Thank you Mark all right.

Well friends I wish I had time to get to the rest your calls but we are out of time look like plenty time to discuss these issues and you give your take on what difference it has to say pro or con my bottom line today.

Boy it's good to know that we serve a God who sets up kings and removes kings usual piece of mine to the chaos

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