Dr. Brown Tackles All Your Questions

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If I have time today, I want to get back to that. And our theme continues in the month of January, Let's Get Healthy. And I've got a personal praise report as well. 866-344-Truth.

Let's start off with our buddy Eddie in Connecticut. Hey man, welcome to the line of fire. Dr. Brown, how are you doing this day?

Doing good, thanks. My question is for you. One second, Dr. Brown, one second. Did you hear me? I can hear you.

Oh, beautiful. Dr. Brown, the question I had was, again, we're talking about tongues, and that's a good topic on your show. And I said, I brought the subject up, I said, you know, all the people I know in the Pentecostal circle, everyone that speaks in tongues, I would always say, well, what language do you speak? And they would say, oh, I have no idea. I don't speak the language.

Mine's unknown. I'd say, I never found a language guy. I always find the unknown tongue. I never find a French guy.

I never find an Italian guy. And I'm wondering, what's the reason for that? Yeah, because that's the way it is. In other words, the first time the Spirit was poured out, the disciples spoke different languages that's spoken of in Acts, the second chapter. It's not mentioned later in Acts, when tongues is referenced, like the 10th chapter, the 19th chapter, that they were speaking foreign languages. But when Paul talks about it in 1 Corinthians 14, he said, it's unknown. The person praying doesn't know what they're saying.

Their spirit is getting edified, but their mind doesn't understand. And he said, there's no sense delivering messages in tongues publicly, because no one understands you, unless someone has the gift of interpretation. So the tongue that we speak, many think it's a heavenly language, because Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 13, if I speak in the tongues of men and angels, others think that's just, you know, poetic speech, the tongues of men, the tongues of angels. But either way, what he describes in 1 Corinthians 14 is an unknown language. And that's why if we deliver a message publicly in that unknown language, we should only do so if there's the gift of interpretation present.

Otherwise we should reserve that for our private prayer time in God. Now, I have run into a good number of people, including colleagues of mine, who have either spoken in a foreign language, didn't know that they were until the person in the room said, you're speaking my language, my dialect, or actually witnessed in front of their eyes, someone they thought they were just speaking in tongues back and forth to a group of people. A colleague of mine who's not even charismatic, doesn't even speak in tongues, saw it with his own eyes, an extended conversation where he was speaking, a brother was translating for him, others were going back and forth. And when they were done, the fellow said, by the way, I don't speak that language at all. I just spoke as the Lord moved me when you spoke, and then I had supernatural understanding of what they were saying. So it does happen, but it's not the norm.

The norm is that it's an unknown language. Right, right. And then I just have a second part to it, Dr. John, if I could ask. I guess the way we say it is that if someone wants bread, you're not going to give your child a stone. How much more would God give to you if you asked for the Holy Spirit? What I'm finding amazing is, if anyone asks God for the gift, boom, it's an instant, oh, I got it. But when your other prayer is, Lord, I need a job, I need healing, I need this, that's like he answers that prayer instantly, okay, tongues, boom, you got it today, everyone gets that, no problem. But it seems like that's how I was viewing it, I'm like, Lord, forgive me for saying it like this, but I'm seeing it like, wow, you want tongues, you got it, here you go, nice tongues. Lord, I also need a job, I'm looking for a job.

Well, you got to weigh a little bit on that. Yeah, so two answers, and Eddie, as always, I love your candor, and the Bible study you're part of in Connecticut must be a lot of fun. It's amazing you guys are all still together and having these discussions. So number one, ideally, if our hearts are open and we come to God in faith, and we're prayed for to receive the Spirit, that it should happen right then and there, and one of the most common signs, not the only, but one of the most common signs is speaking in other tongues. So praise God when that happens then and there, but many would say that they waited and sought God for some time before they had the breakthrough, so it varies.

I don't believe you have to wait for the breakthrough to come, but just like asking God to save you, if you sincerely, genuinely ask Him to save you, He will do it. The same with giving you His Spirit in greater measure or specific measure to be empowered for His service. But a lot of good things take time.

You know, if you say, Lord, let's say you're single, Lord, send me the wife you have for me. Well, God may be working on you for a while and working on her, right? And there may be other things where He's teaching us to trust Him, to grow in faith more. So the best, most wonderful things that have happened in my life have all taken time. Even God saving me, there was a process of working in my life to get me to a certain point, filling me with the Spirit, the same thing.

So good things do take time, but let it be that as we have faith, we receive from God instantly as well. Thank you, as always, for the questions. 866-34-TRUTH.

Let's go to Alex in Atlanta, Georgia. Welcome to the line of fire. Hey, so my question, I guess, deals more with Isaiah 6, and I think it's 611-12. But it speaks about blinding and my cards being rendered dull and all that. And it's quoted in Matthew 12, actually I think Matthew 13, and also in John 12. But Matthew seems to quote Septuagint and John seems to quote, I don't know, more of the Hebrew, I guess. And they both seem to say a little bit different things, like the Septuagint makes it seem like the people have made their hearts dull, whereas the way John quotes it, it seems like maybe God has blinded them. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Yeah, sure. So the first thing is that you will find these variations between Septuagint quotes and quotes from the Hebrew. And often they're just different sides of the same coin, different ways of looking at things. You may have, for example, healed in Hebrew becomes saved in Greek, or in an Aramaic form it becomes forgiven.

In other words, you'll have variations of the same theme. I'll just read to you English translation, the old Brenton translation of the Septuagint, when Isaiah says, How long, O Lord? He said, until cities be deserted by reason of their not being inhabited, etc. Actually, yeah, we needed to bump it up a couple of verses, sorry. So, verse nine, You shall hear indeed, but you shall not understand. You shall see indeed, but you shall not perceive.

For the heart of this people has become gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have closed. Let they should see with their ears and hear with their, see with their eyes, hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. So, yes, the Hebrew is more that Isaiah's mission is to harden them, and the Septuagint is saying that they have hardened their hearts, therefore these things are happening.

I would say that although the Hebrew is the primary text and the Septuagint is an interpretive rendering of that, that there are two sides of the same coin. In other words, God is not coming to humble, hungry, holy people and hardening them. God is coming to people who have rejected him. In other words, they've already put up a wall, and Isaiah's preaching is going to deepen them in their hardness. In the same way, Jesus teaching in parables is going to further distance those who are on the outside because they don't understand, but those who are humble and hungry, he will reveal his truth to them.

So, this is a reaping, a sowing and reaping. This is God turning people over to judgment. So, I don't know if you've ever shared the Gospel with someone who they don't want to hear from you anymore, and when you bring it up to them again, they get even more hostile.

It's been pointed out that the same sun that melts the wax, bakes the clay. So, many times, God just bringing his truth to people, those whose hearts are hard, it makes them even harder. Because God does not push people away that want him, he draws them to himself. So, although the Hebrew is the original and the fully accurate here, the Septuagint is giving a fair interpretation that because of the hardness of the people, that God is giving them over to further judgment. And of course, Isaiah has been talking about that very hardness in context. So, does that help sort that out? Yeah, I kind of have a similar take on it.

So, then maybe just to follow up on that. Yeah. So, you're talking about the hardening. I guess, what is the purpose per se of the hardening, not just for the person who's being hardened more, but do you think that there's a benefit for just the people who aren't hardened, where they see someone who's hardened and they're like, hey, I don't want to be like that? What do you think, I guess, if you could talk broadly about the purpose of hardening, I guess, what would you say?

Yeah, it's a great question to ask. Of course, first it is giving people over to their sin, right? Pharaoh repeatedly says, no, no, no, no, no. And then God, in increasing measure, gives him over to his sin, to his hardness. So, that's part of it. And there is part of God making an example out of someone like Pharaoh.

God raises him up for that purpose so that his glory would be displayed because God, in contrast to Pharaoh's hardness, is going to manifest his power. So, there is God's judgment making someone an example. And yes, there is that wake-up call to others to say, hey, I don't want to go in that direction. I see where sin takes you. And then, even for those who are being hardened, there's the possibility of them now seeing the error of their ways, seeing how far they have fallen, that that can be a way to see the error of their ways. Another part is that they now may be vehicles of doing evil or wrong as part of God's purpose, bringing judgment, etc. So, it's multifaceted. Ultimately, though, it is to glorify the Lord and to bring people to a point of salvation.

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Absolutely. So I just had a quick question about John MacArthur's study Bible. And so I have been studying it for quite some time, and even though I'm a fellow charismatic, I just have great appreciation for his work and just his thoroughness and how solid his theology and doctrine is as far as the commentary is concerned. But I got to 1 Corinthians chapter 14, and that's just kind of where my question lies. So in 1 Corinthians chapter 14, John MacArthur seems to make a distinguishment whenever Paul uses tongues in a plural form, opposed to when he says tongues, so he seems to indicate that whenever Paul uses it in a plural form, that he's using it in a context that is the Holy Spirit that has given the church member the gift for the edification of the body, but the tongue, though he recognizes that there's a couple instances where it's not the case when he says tongue, Paul is actually making a distinguishment between the actual spiritual gift and a pagan babbling that was actually demonic and more so for building one's self up rather than edifying the church. And so on the outside looking in, it just seemed like he was kind of reading his theology into the text, but I'm not very well versed with the Greek, and so I just wanted to see if you knew if there was any legitimacy to his claim there.

Zero. Zero legitimacy, zero support in the Greek. Now let me say this. I too have great respect for Pastor MacArthur. I honor him as an elder in the body. I honor him as a man of God. I honor his love for the word. I honor his passion for truth. I honor the fact that he is not compromised with pressure from the world. I honor the fact that he seeks to lift up Jesus and he's produced all of this expository preaching and commentary.

I absolutely honor that. I must be candid, though, and say when I have read his exposition of these verses, I've been shocked. I mean, it is so subpar. It is so contrary to a plain meaning of the text. It is so counterintuitive to what the text is saying, and the fact that you're arguing for a very tenuous point to start and then have to say, well, there are actually some things where it doesn't work out. No, it's as off as you feel. Look, I always try to look for a weak point or an Achilles heel in something I believe or hold to, and if I feel, okay, my explanation to that is weak, it doesn't ring true, then I step back from it and say, okay, what am I missing? Is my position wrong or am I just misunderstanding this verse?

You try to be as honest as you can yourself, and other times you have blind spots so it's for others to tell you, but it is as bad as you think. It is as non-exegetical as you can imagine. There's no support for it in the Greek. There's no nuance of the text that indicates it. There's no context that points to it whatsoever, and you will not find, if you go through all the top commentators of 1 Corinthians and read their commentaries, you will not find that his is a view that others have also espoused historically in any kind of mainstream way. And because, now here, let me end with a positive comment.

It is because of his devotion to the Word and the excellence of so much of his work that you can see when a theological bias gets in the way because it suddenly degenerates it and really drops. So your perceptions are quite accurate, sir. Alright, I appreciate it, Dr. Michael Brown. Thank you so much for answering that question.

You are very welcome. It's funny that was mentioned because at the outset of the show I said, if I have time I want to go back to a discussion that ties in with yesterday's show about Isaiah 53, and I was actually going to reference the MacArthur Study Bible in that context as well. Do I have time for another call? Let's give it a shot. Let's go to Jeff in South Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire. Hey, Dr. Brown.

I'm really blessed by your ministry, and also I've discussed the vita, the travita with my wife. But anyway, with so many of the prophecies in the Old Testament that Jesus fulfilled, even down to where he was born, how he was born, his family line, all these things, and of course they didn't know back then, all that we know now, that only he could have been the Messiah. What else could he have done Jewish, from a Jewish standpoint, to make the Jewish, the Sadducees and the Pharisees and all the doubters believe that he was the Messiah?

What else could he have done? Right, so, great question. The first thing is, there were others born in Bethlehem and others from that line of David, so that in itself would make the Messiah, but certainly it was a requirement. And no one was there to verify his birth, and he certainly worked all the miracles that could have been imagined. But, if the Jewish expectation is he will be a king who rules and reigns, who destroys the wicked, who regathers the exiles, who sets up the kingdom of God on the earth, if he doesn't do that, and that's what you're waiting for, then you'll say he can't be the Messiah. Right, so it was because they expected him to do a particular thing, establish peace on earth, free Israel from its enemies, etc., because he didn't do that, therefore he wasn't the Messiah.

And that's when he tried to open their eyes to the reality of what his mission was. Hey, thank you, sir, for the question. We'll be right back. Hey, would you like to know if I'm coming to speak in your area, you'll get an email notice about it, or if we've just put out a brand new video resource, or if we have a new book coming out, or get a weekly summary of all the articles I've written, would you like that? Just sign up for our emails. There you go, free service.

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Kevin in Wichita, Kansas, welcome to the line of fire. Hi Dr. Brown, I had two quick questions. The first is regarding a bit of Hebrew in Genesis 1. There's a paper by Scott Nagle out of the University of Washington, and he makes the argument that in Genesis 1, 1 and 1, 2 that the Hebrew for the earth should be better translated as underworld, and he cites just various developments in Mesopotamian language, useritic text, cognic, stuff like that, and I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that.

Yeah, I reject that idea with all respect to Eretz having underworld connotations in some of the Semitic languages. The fact is, especially that you have Hashemayim, V'haaretz, the heavens and the earth, that's the universe. When you have those two things, it's not netherworld, it's not the heavens and the netherworld, but the universe, and then contextually, just a plain meaning, you've got stuff happening on the earth here. You've got the waters dividing into seas here on the earth. You've got Adam, man being formed out of the dust of the earth. You've got livestock, you've got fish, you've got birds, that's all stuff here on this earth.

So no, it absolutely means earth here, not netherworld, with all respect to his scholarship. Yeah, that's fair. And second, did you have any recommendations on maybe a defense of, a book on the defense of Sola Scriptura? I grew up as a Protestant, so I just kind of accepted it as a truth, but seen various discussions, realized that I'm not as read on the debate as I should be. Tell you what, let me think, maybe in the next segment I'll give you a recommendation.

I read within the debate different viewpoints and have interacted here and there with Catholic friends about this, not in extended debates and things like that, but as to the best single book, there are probably some that you just jump to mind, but they don't. Let me give it thought. If I don't mention it in the next segment, shoot us a note through the website and we'll write back with some ideas and recommendations. Hopefully in the next segment a few things will jump out that I can recommend to you, Kevin.

So keep listening. Thank you for the call. 866-344-TRUTH.

We go to Pennsylvania with love. Welcome to the line of fire. Hi, Dr. Brown.

Thank you so much for picking up my call. I just had a question about women in ministry because I've been seeing a lot of people saying that I saw a poll from David Lin. You probably heard of him. And he was just basically saying that women should not be pastors nor be preachers, nor be preaching in a church. I know that the book of Corinthians talks about that. Titus talks about that. But I just don't know if Paul was referring to the women in that time. But I don't know if he still refers now and also about women prophesying with covering their heads. There's no question that women can and should be involved in lots of different kinds of ministry.

There's no question whatsoever. Just read Paul's list of fellow workers in Romans 16 and look at how many men are there and how many women are there. And they clearly have an equal standing in terms of these are all solid, respected fellow workers. Psalm 68 speaks of the Lord's word going forth and many are the women, it's female, that proclaim it. The fact that in 1 Corinthians 11, Paul talks about women prophesying and praying in public, obviously with a certain right authority setting, means that this was something that was to be done. And the gifting of God is not dependent on male or female.

In other words, God can heal through male, God can prophesy through any of us. The only debatable question to me is not women ministering, preaching, teaching in all different kinds of settings. The idea that Paul forbade women from teaching in a setting where there would be men. I do not believe that was the overall point that he was making. Because if women in themselves were easily deceived and therefore not to be teaching men, well then why does Paul and Titus say that the older women should teach the younger women?

No, nobody should teach anybody if they're all so easily deceived. Nor does it explain how say in the book of Acts that Priscilla and Aquila with her name coming first, that they discipled Apollos and took him deeper in the knowledge of God. Nor does it explain what Paul's co-workers were doing, female co-workers, if they weren't preaching and teaching. The debatable question to me is women as senior pastors. And I do believe that God raises women up and has used women in senior pastoral roles and in planting apostolic roles. I don't see it as the norm.

I see the norm being that governmental authority is male and that under that women are released to minister freely. However, let me say this, I see the New Testament norm as believers being full of the Spirit and being used to heal the sick and drive out demons and speak in tongues and prophesy. I see that as the New Testament norm. I see that as the norm for those in ministry and leadership. However, there are many that God raises up who do not speak in tongues, who do not believe in the gifts and power of the Spirit in that regard for today, and God still works through them.

I'm sure there are many things missing in me in terms of making me ideal and full and complete on every level and yet God works through me. So I do believe that God will work through us in different ways in positions that are not the norm. That being said, I've preached for female pastors that are anointed by God and great leaders and the Lord has used them mightily. I freely work with churches that have female senior pastors.

I've done that for years. I just don't see it as the norm. Just like in the home, there is a certain headship that comes with the man and yet in our home, Nancy looks to me as the head of the home in terms of the burden falls on me. But I would say in the vast majority of decision making, she has the wisdom and I followed her. I'd say in so many things in life, she's definitely been right and I recognize it and yet there's a certain headship authority that comes to the male.

So that's the part that's debatable to me. Women preaching, teaching, ministering in all different ways. Let it be for the glory of God and let me receive everything I can through those women called and anointed by God. 866, thank you for the question.

866-34-TRUTH. Let's go to Paul in LA or Louisiana, I guess. Sorry. Welcome to the line of fire. Are you there, Paul? Go ahead. Okay, yeah, Louisiana.

I'm actually in California. I don't know why I said that. All right.

It kind of tricked me there. But I just want to say thank you so much for your ministry. It's such a benefit. It continually blesses me and God bless to you. May the Lord bless your ministry. Thank you.

So my question is, Dr. Brown, basically I've been, this year has been interesting. I've been studying a lot about Israel and the restoration, the national repentance of Israel in the end days when the Lord Jesus returns. And as I keep talking with my brother in the faith, his objection to me is hard for me to overcome. And his objection is basically that the Jews in Israel today are not true ethnic Jews. And simply because of Ezra and Nehemiah, it says that the bloodlines have been tainted, they were mixed. Samaritans in Jesus' day, he even saw the Samaritans as not full Jews. These are his objections and I'm just not quite sure to answer that and I was wondering what you would have to say about that.

Yeah, it's really easy to answer. It's a question people raise. But the fact that there were Samaritans who claimed to be the original Israelites and the rest of the Jewish population rejected them as half-breeds, that has nothing to do with the fact that the rest of that Jewish population was Jewish. The fact that you had relationships in the days of Ezra and Nehemiah with women that were pagans, they were put away.

They were divorced and sent away with their children. So the only ones identifying as Jews today, aside from cults and bizarre groups that claim to be Jews and are not, they're the ones that have continued to have a Jewish identity. Meaning, they can either trace ethnically through the centuries or at some point they convert it into Judaism.

Because if you just intermarry and join the nations, you're lost to Israel. So let's just say that you're a Jewish person living in the first century and you're in Rome and you meet a Gentile woman and marry the woman and she has no religion so you have no religion, within a few generations your kids have no connection to Jewishness or Israel whatsoever. The only ones who've maintained that concept of Jewishness are the Jews. So around the world, they're the ones either practicing Judaism or recognizing their ethnic identity as in the land of Israel.

They can be traced by DNA, they can be traced by historical records, they can be traced by language trends and things like that. Do you think Hitler had a hard time figuring out who the Jews were when he decided to commit genocide on the Jews in Europe? Do you think that country after country that expelled Jews because they weren't baptized, like Spain in 1492 expelled all non-baptized Jews, do you think they had a hard time figuring out who the Jews are? Do you think when the UN granted a state of Israel in 1947, 1948, do you think they had a hard time figuring out who the Jews were? It's been known, again, as plain as the nose on my face as a Jew I can say that, right? So it's been known historically. In my books Our Hands Are Stained with Blood, the 2019 edition, Our Hands Are Stained with Blood, or Christian Antisemitism, Our Hands Are Stained with Blood, get the 2019 edition, or Christian Antisemitism, ideal with some of these misconceptions.

It's really, really simple. Hey, thank you very much. We'll be right back.

Welcome back to the line of fire. All right, about two, a little less than a half hour from now, about 28 minutes from now, we will be right back on the same YouTube channel, ASKDR Brown. So if you're listening on radio or maybe watching on Facebook, ASKDR Brown, Ask Dr. Brown YouTube channel, 4.15 Eastern Time. All right, so it's a little less than a half hour from now, we'll be doing our weekly, we do them as often as we can, weekly YouTube chat.

So all kinds of questions will be taken there and you just have to post and have to call in. All right, regarding Sola Scriptura, maybe this book is a good helpful one. Sola Scriptura, The Protestant Position on the Bible, edited by Don Kisler, K-I-S-T-L-E-R. Now strongly from a Reformed perspective, so John MacArthur, R.C. Sproul, my friend James White contributed to it as well.

Maybe this is a helpful one, I'm looking to see which might be the most useful, but I think this will give a good perspective. Sola Scriptura, The Protestant Position on the Bible, edited by Don Kisler. All right, let us go back to the phones, this time with Caleb in Rochester Hills, Michigan.

Welcome to the line of fire. Hey Dr. Mike, appreciate your ministry and all that you do. I have a question regarding an individual named Ron Wyatt. He had done some archaeological digs in Israel some years ago, and he had some extraordinary claims about having found the Ark of the Covenant and even taking a sample of the blood that he said was on top of it and speaking to angels. They were real, like, extraordinary claims, and I've heard from others that he seemed to be a genuine believer, but I just kind of wanted your thought or opinion if you've heard these things and what you think about them. Yeah, interestingly, you're the second person to ask me about this in two days, and I don't remember being asked about it in some months or years.

All right, let me be totally candid. Ron Wyatt has devoted years and years and years and years of his life to the subject. In terms of my study of the Ark of the Covenant, it's more minutes or hours, okay? I am highly skeptical of the claims, especially the more sensationalistic ones. I am highly skeptical, but in fairness to Ron Wyatt, he has devoted years, decades of his life to the study, and I have devoted maybe hours to the study of the location of the Ark of the Covenant.

Hours would be on the high side. So I am not qualified to give an academic evaluation of his claims. I've only seen the sensationalistic claims. I maybe watched a few minutes of a video, so I don't even know everything that he's claiming. But to be fair to him, having devoted all of these years of life to this, all I can say is I'm highly skeptical, but I cannot say in any type of academic or scholarly or comprehensive way that he's wrong in terms of discovering the location of the Ark.

I'm highly skeptical, but he's the one who's put in the decades. I haven't. So until I can look into it more, just to be fair, I have to leave it there. Okay, yeah, I guess that's the same place I'm at, but I appreciate it. Yeah, and listen, I wish I had more to say, but it'd just be somewhat empty words, you know what I'm saying?

Because I haven't given the adequate time out of respect to the decades he's put in to give a fair response. Now, there are other things people can throw at me, and I don't care if you spend a million years studying it, I know it's false. I know it's absolutely, clearly, undoubtedly false. But since I don't even know all the claims he's making, I can't just dismiss it like that, all right? So I'm highly skeptical of any claims of discovery of the Ark, unless it was this massive archaeological consensus among scholars that this has been discovered and authenticated, et cetera. So anything less than that, I'm highly skeptical of.

But in fairness, I'm not the one to rebut the claim because I haven't studied the claims. Thank you again for the call. We go to Linda in Kernersville, North Carolina. Welcome to the Line of Fire. Hi, Dr. Brown. Hi. I was just calling... I'm sorry, can you hear me okay? I can hear you, sure thing.

Okay, all right. I was just calling because I understand that Jack Hayford had passed away this past Sunday, and I know he was a mighty man of God, and I hadn't heard your program on Monday, so I don't know if you had made a note of it, but I just wanted to express my gratitude to you. And we happen to have one of your books, it's called Go and Send No More, and I had noticed that Dr. Hayford had written a commentary for your book, and I thought if you'd like, I'd like to read it to you to honor you and also honor him. Sure, yeah, that's very gracious. Go ahead.

Okay. What he wrote for your book was, Unless bold voices call the church to holiness in Christ's light, as well as peace in God's love, casual attitudes will beget reckless saints. Michael Brown has done us a service by focusing on purity of life while embracing salvation's hope apart from works.

And that was written on your Go and Send No More A Call to Holiness book. Thank you for doing that and for taking time to honor the one known as Pastor Jack. I issued some statements that were posted in articles online, and then posted on social media a tribute to Pastor Hayford, so I didn't talk about it on Monday, but I did that immediately on Sunday. And Linda, we weren't close friends, but we got to spend some really good time together, and I remember I was speaking at an Israel conference, and he gave me one of the most gracious introductions. But what I so appreciated about him is he was so widely respected as a Christian leader, as a man of God.

In that sense, he was even a Pentecostal charismatic pioneer, and that he was so respected by many who were not Pentecostal charismatic that they recognized in him a real balance of word and spirit. And with all of his years living into his 80s, being so active in ministry, you don't associate him with scandals. You don't associate him with corrupt fundraising. You don't associate him with flakiness. You don't associate him with gossip and attack and slander. You don't associate him with any of that. So it's a real tribute to his integrity over the decades, his devotion to the Lord.

And then, of course, one of the most famous Christian songs written in the 20th century, Majesty, was written by Pastor Hayford among his other songs, so we're indebted to him. He leaves a great legacy and a great hole to fill as well. Thank you very much for the call. Appreciate it.

Let us go to Joe in Vista, California. Welcome to the Line of Fire. Shalom, Mihayev. How are you?

Doing well, thank you. I have a question. A little back, I believe in the 90s, you were debating on the Sid Roth show, a rabbi, it wasn't Shmuley Boteach, it was another guy.

Oh gosh, I forget his name. But anyhow, the caller called in and it was about... Are you talking about a radio debate, an audio debate? Yes, and the caller called in and it was a question about the language of Kaniyia and Shealtiel being born, I'm sorry, Shealtiel and then the curse being broke from that line. Could you elaborate a little bit more on that?

Yeah, absolutely. So that goes back to the early 1990s when Sid hosted a debate between Rabbi Tovia Singer and me. Since then, Rabbi Singer has refused to debate me. And a previous debate that was held at the home of a Russian messianic Jew with Rabbi Singer and I, he asked me then to not release those tapes to the public. And then since our public debate, he's refused to debate me.

Sadly, I think it would be a very useful debate for Jew and Christian alike. I should also say that the 700 Club was there to film the debate. They were going to air the whole thing on TV, Pat Robertson's network, and they gave the permission form to Tovia before to sign.

He goes, I'll sign it after and he refused to sign. So it could have gotten out to even more people. In any case, here's the long and short of it. There is the idea that Jeconiah, so one of the last kings of Judah, the grandson of Josiah, that Jeconiah was cursed, that no one of his lineage would sit on the throne. And therefore, because Jeconiah is included in Matthew's genealogy, that Jesus would therefore be, Matthew's genealogy of Jesus, Jesus would therefore be disqualified. The fact of the matter is that the curse on Jeconiah was reversed. In Jeremiah 22, God says, if you were like a signet ring, I'd remove you from my hand. And then in Haggai 2, to Zerubbabel, the grandson of Jeconiah, it says, I will make you like a signet ring on my own hand. In Jeremiah 52, it tells us that Jeconiah, after 37 years in exile, was raised up and was given a seat at the king's table. And rabbinic commentators, so this you'll find in rabbinic literature, in Jewish literature, they recognized that Jeconiah had repented. And because he repented, God reversed the curse and then raised him up accordingly. Not only so, through his grandson Zerubbabel publicly and clearly said, the curse is being reversed, I'm going to make you like my signet ring again. So that was the answer in short. If you want much more depth on it, volume four of answering Jewish objections to Jesus, volume four of my series answering Jewish objections to Jesus, I get into this in depth.

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