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From the thousand year reign of the Messiah to Pres. Trump's meeting with Pres. Abbas got will come your way on thoroughly through Thursday stage for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks friends for joining us on this thoroughly Jewish Thursday boy a lot is happening heaven with Israel. The Jewish people having to do with America and the world will focus.

Of course on Israel today. Any Jewish related questions you have for me, my joy to take them 866-34-TRUTH 7884 also give you an update on the conversation I had with a Rabbi who called in last week won't divulge what we talked about privately, but you want to give you an update on that 866-34-TRUTH 87884. Yes, Pres. Trump signed an executive order regarding religious liberty today and there is a lot of praise for what he's done in different faith communities a lot of attack from folks like the ACLU, how far does the bill go what should we make of it what is it reveal God willing, I'll be writing about that talking about that within the next 24 hours and few in touch with us and asked Dr. Brown.org, you will know when our articles or comments are made available. Also, I wrote an article last night.

I'm going to get into it today. Pres. Trump and and Palestinian Pres. Mahmoud Abbas met yesterday and then they made some public comments respectively in English and in Arabic and I read the transcript of the English translations, and had some major concerns with what Pres. Abbas had to say.

So I address those in an article of some major problems with the remarks of prison Abbas.

You can read that on the website asked Dr. Brown.org SK DR Brown.org in a moment were going to focus on the millennium the thousand year reign of the Messiah. How clearly is this taught in Scripture how important is this for us in terms of our beliefs. Obviously we can have differing views about the millennium and still be brothers and sisters in the Lord can have different views about lots of things heavenly with future prophecy and be brothers and sisters in the Lord, but you might be surprised with how much the Scriptures have to say about the little kingdom. So we come back we love having gone anywhere yet, but when we do go somewhere and come back at the brick break will be joined with Matthew Bryce Irvin will book 1000 years with Jesus, the coming messianic kingdom actually wrote the forward to the book. So yes, I like the contents of the book, very, much, and my friend Rabbi Shirley, my dear friend Rabbi :-) we haven't been in touch and in a while, but except for an email here and there'd be great to see 30 rates during the debate to get ugly and be fabulous but relish poison the news in a very interesting way. He was in the White House.

He was visiting Steve Bannon who he considers to be a good true friend of Israel and the Jewish people and met with him and of course took advantage of the photo op have a picture of him and Steve Bannon in Steve Bannon's office. His wife Debbie, whose wife Debbie. Also in one of the pictures but it was where the picture was taken that has gotten all the attention relish was met with dignitaries, world leaders and things like that so he's lots of pictures that some of the big notice the big notice is what was behind them in Steve Bannon's office when the pictures taken. So if you haven't seen the news on that it's it's actually funny and fun and good and Steve Bannon is fine with it.

Apparently when I understand it, no problem with the picture being taken with that particular backup. So what was it relish really unintentionally reveal Toby come back later in the broadcast of file line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown, the making of annihilation white razor wishes all his friends just want to alert you to something on this thoroughly Jewish Thursday one night only May 23. There is a powerful movie that will be showing select theaters across America and perhaps in other settings as well. May 23 is called in our hands and it is the story of the Six-Day War focused on the liberation of Jerusalem is dramatized as well as filled with testimony from those who were involved in the liberation of Jerusalem and who lost friends and colleagues. It's moving. It's very powerful. I wrote an endorsement for it and very happy to promote it so in our hands is name of the movie special one night event and select theaters Tuesday, May 23 to find out more go to in our hands.

1967.com in our hands. 1967.com Michael Brown delighted to be with you on this thoroughly Jewish Thursday.

If you have a Jewish related question of any kind give me a call at 866-3478 84 of the millennial kingdom will there be a literal thousand year reign of Jesus on the earth. My guest Matthew Bryce Irvin has written a focused book on this 1000 years with Jesus, the coming messianic kingdom and when I read through the manuscript and then wrote the forward to the book, I was struck by just how much the Scriptures had to say about this subject and even how much the early church leaders spoke about the subject. So again, you may have a different view on this, but I think as you listen, you're going to be provoked to study the Scriptures are fresh to see with the word of God has to say on this thousand year reign of the Messiah.

Hey Matthew welcome to want to fire Dr. Brown me on what is it that led you to write this book in the first place and to say let's just put together a systematic focus work on the subject well gone closer to Christian walk. Over time I became interested in the overall picture Scripture what the what's the story that the Scriptures are telling, especially as far as redemption and in that I realized that I couldn't get a complete picture of it without positing the millennial kingdom that this was necessary for the overall story of redemption. So in other words, even though Jesus paid for our sins on the cross. Even though we pray for his return that there is a missing piece in the puzzle for a lot of believers in your mind. That's the thousand year millennial kingdom is is this kind of a side issue in this in the Bible old and New Testament. Or is it something that's major side.

If you are not believe that it is not salvific, not something we absolutely need to do to be in harmony with the Lord. And yet I believe it's something that spoken out quite quickly. Scriptures, whether directly or indirectly. I saw how this it has to play out before we get into specifics. How does it play out as a key piece in the larger plan of redemption in your view, a missing piece.

If we don't see it rightly.

All right.

Well I see Israel as a vehicle that God uses the people of Israel and the subject of the vehicle ultimately bring about redemption now of course through our Lord and Savior Jesus we have redemption across absolutely however still looking for creation itself to be renamed in enough sense Israel this vehicle needs to become the head of the nation.

Because this is part of God's plan and ultimately bring about a full restoration in the eternal state. So if Israel never head of the nation. Like let's say we go from the current age but Israel never head of the nation it eternal state where everyone equal nerdy know God that Israel was never able to demonstrate God's people were never compelled to come see God and for got the Jewish people to learn about God.

So in that sense we need Israel of the head of the nation no longer the tail and everyone begin the Lord by coming the chance to fulfill her destiny as part of God's overall prophetic program. What if someone said Matthew that that's going backwards. Israel had its chance is refill as nation but Israel fulfills its destiny and that it is that you, Jesus, Yeshua, who is the Savior of the world. So through the Messiah. Israel fulfills its destiny and it never will be the head of the nation's well I so much appreciate the idea of it just this great concept of the World Bank. The Jewish people realized, however, I would say that not all the Scripture has to say we can look we need to look at the covenant, especially so in the Abraham covenant. We can ultimately infer that yes one of Abraham's descendents would ultimately be this kingly Messiah. It would bring about redemption, and yet at the same time we have the land provision that I how it can come to pass, which is in Genesis 15, the Jewish people never control the larger territory and it would seem that they do so throughout the rest of the Hebrew Scriptures. In contradistinction to the rest of the world that there some kind of distinction going on there so when they come to that point.

All people can speak that they have become closer to God or another worker fulfilling God's intent, his desire for them and in doing so they can bring people work male Thursday is also an issue of the millennium can serve as a final proof that with the Lord himself reign on earth. People still motivate so it's not a matter at that time of we just don't believe in, and we don't see evidence at that point will be clear who you and if they'll still choose not to trust some subtlety yet since final vindication of God's righteousness, human sinfulness that even in a perfect world that's filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the seas.

Even with God himself as king relates to his son, the Messiah. That is the end of that time, Satan will still be able to deceive and people will still rebel against God. It's it's the ultimate way of God saying hey I gave you every opportunity in a blessed world without all the questions of suffering and pain.

All of this with access to God and yet people still refused. Matthew paints a picture of what this thousand year reign as a massage can be like. According to the Scriptures. Well, I'll try to be very after the second coming of the Lord initiate.

They met the audit kingdom be what we came to know of the millennium because primarily due to Revelation 20 difficult giving of the timeline. Although we can occur elsewhere and so he comes here in the world becomes a lot better. A lot of things are better. There's a lot there's a lot of peace on earth, in large part because they at present and the world becomes regenerated a lot of people coming close to the Lord result. Just it's a wonderful glorious age of truth and justice and creation itself is far, far better, so a lot of things went better in general, and yet is still not perfect. We have passages where it still not absolutely perfect, such as Ezekiel 47 we see this amazing liver and that time regenerating the Dead Sea and bring it back to life and trees grow next to it that, at least for healing for the nation. However, there are areas that that's the that the text explicitly says remain sloppy. So what are we to do with passages like this, we can't place them now seems to be active in the fire return and yet it doesn't fit in the eternal state because there wouldn't be areas where it withers no life, and this is a time then where Isaiah 2 would be for cells as nations become stream after Jerusalem wanted to learn from the God of Israel in Isaiah 11 would be filled with the Wolf lies down with the lamb. That's when these things should be fulfilled. And yet it's not a totally perfect place.

I made the refrigerants a perfect world, moments ago, but that would be a slightly inaccurate description and MSU will impact this morning the other side of the break, but was this something that was held to by early church leaders, the disciples of the apostles and their disciples to the point where if there were great at that time, I believe it was a part of it. Got it so it's it's that universe. What word does come up with that universal testimony in your view. Oh, absolutely. And non-pre-millennial Christian historian have readily recognized the fact that they reluctantly admitted in the writing election that we just have to recognize that will come back France you please pray the Lord's prayer, your kingdom come.

As the kingdom of praise you. This is the kingdom, Frank is will be done on earth as it is in heaven for plan by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown tells you 866-34-TRUTH for 87884 is the number to call if you get a Jewish related question of any kind. When a probe or about the millennial kingdom. McCall 866-34-TRUTH I'm speaking with Matthew Bryce Irvin's new art in his new book out 1000 years with Jesus, the coming messianic kingdom.

I wrote the forward to the book Michael flash Prof. theology the master seminary's is more than any book I've seen in this book Irvin explains the details of what Jesus coming earthly millennial reign will be like by giving justice to with both the old and new Testaments teach on this important issue.

Irvin orifice offers a biblical exciting picture of the millennium. If one wants to contemplate Jesus kingdom from a consistent hermeneutic without layers of spiritual cessation and reinterpretation.

It's often plagued this topic. This is the book to get. As I said really to the manuscript. Write the forward to the book I was reminded of how many versus actually speak about the so Matthew you. You've been a student of church history and in the church are hang on. Looks like we lost Matthew there for a moment and we will we will reconnect with him, but I am not one to say well the church fathers taught this are taught that a because of which I must hold to this particular view of solar script or as are many of you Scriptures are the authority of the Scriptures are the final authority in terms of and yet how are you okay there we go reconnected another one. Thank you sir all right.

Not sure what happened there. Matthew but glad to get you back so you hire are so scriptural people that we believe what's written Scripture is the final authority that the traditions that are been passed on and preserved in church history are valuable and important, but they do not dictate how we understand the Scriptures, but you often get the idea. All you believe this thousand year kingdom. That's his new saying this is dispensationalism pretrip dispensations, believing that the start of the 1800s and uniforms of the church fathers.

Actually, the reverse is true in and on the dispensations, not a pretrip or but this is something that we can say is talk plainly and Scriptures best as we understand, but also taught a monkey church leaders should give us a sampling of some of the testimony absolutely and limited work product or audience wrote like that a little bit okay by right right okay I fully agree with that exactly the excitement I had went out in my early 20s a decade and 1/2 ago reading facilities early church fathers and going. Wow, they believe what I believe I have been told by many Christians at that time know the thousand year reign your misunderstanding the allegorical. This is a new believe this is associated with new theological systems, and I was reading people like Irenaeus copyist was student of the apostle John agreement by Polycarp Justin Martyr and they all believed in the literal thousand year reign of Jesus Christ, your before he brought everything in the profession, and that was stunning to me that yeah absolutely so Scripture and yet at the same time we speak a consistent belief from some of the students. The apostles themselves, including the right of Revelation a that should garner our attention at the very week. Yeah, absolutely. And in the idea that both. This is an unspiritual police. I mean that's that's pretty eye-opening as well say none of this is a very spiritual belief is, God's kingdom manifest here on the earth. Matthew is this something that the New Testament takes for granted reinforces contradicts. Oh no, not at all. I believe the New Testament makes this concept quite clear as you stated before the break, the Lord's prayer itself were compelled to pray for the kingdom to come upon the earth, just as it is in heaven. We see that the apostle question could either an act Lord at this, you bring the king of Israel. He doesn't make fun of them.

He doesn't say what a stupid question each other state do your paying attention. No, instead, after an intensive with the Messiah himself on the kingdom, the first? Okay. When will the kingdom come to Israel with the acts believe that after Pentecost.

You can't face still bent or Peter's preaching on the feasting next three that the renewal the refreshing of all things will come in everything that the prophets have spoken about will come to pass. When you trust in the Messiah is waiting for you in heaven to come back and bring these things to be what we furthermore see a not for scripting 15.

The very timeline that Paul sets out, we see that initially there were some firstfruits and then Jesus must reign until went and told enemies upon her speak. Then we get a next phase of the kingdom, and, of course, in Revelation, we get the most plain picture.

Although I would argue, it really doesn't give as much new information to just summarize the much of what we can find the rest of Scripture� It so when will we realize that Jesus does not come to abolish the law of the prophets, but to fulfill. Realize that there are many promises that God gave to Israel are not yet fulfilled. Then you understand that the Messiah's return will not abolish things then but bring to pass whatever has not come to pass.

Yet. And the idea that that basically we should use a literal hermeneutic meaning that in the last there is clearly a figure of speech involved some hyperbole, poetic hyperbole or an allegory or analogy or metaphor similar that that if the Bible says something in a straightforward way.

We should take it in a straightforward way, meaning the Bible talks about the city of Jerusalem with the Bible talks about the regathering of Jewish people of the Bible talks about nations coming to Jerusalem that we should take it to mean what it says, you find that reinforced in the New Testament as well. Your partner, Dr. Brown and not very important because if were going to favorite building prophecies that happen out of coming literally, then we should believe. Likewise with the second coming of the wire were specially picking and choosing what we like from the knock could be fulfilled in the literal playing strength according to how the original audience will reconnect burn and some others that were thank no, because that is our preconception were going to spiritualize our garage this something you believe should happen yeah and and even though you might have here and there and allegorical application of an Old Testament prophecy that the larger community. Get the larger pattern of interpretation you get is that thing stated in a straightforward way come to pass in a straightforward way. Matthew just a few seconds. What are you hoping that readers of your book will get. Ultimately, I wanted to now this is not a vandalism book per se, but I want you to appreciate the overall work of the Messiah has done is doing because he had two great parts of his work so he completed a lot of his work and so we should trust and what he's going to do that help us to appreciate his overall work, the person is and quite frankly what we should back and look forward to serving with that great relationship with herself and this is to isolated function granted time function. You have to get the book 1000 years with Jesus and get into that history section and find out what's coming, it's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown related to the Hebrew Scriptures relating to the Hebrew language Jewish people.

Modern Israel questions about Israel and the Palestinians have to do with Jesus being the Jewish Messiah. Jewish tradition give me a call 8663 for 87884. Although it is 30 Jewish Thursday I should share this breaking news. House passes health care bill eliminates funding for Planned Parenthood.

There was a lot of controversy about the spending bill that was pushed forward by the house and my guest John Hawkins earlier in the week said it wasn't a compromise those in a compromise.

It was just given Democrats everything they want. You think will why Republicans control both both houses of Congress.

And when you got a Republican president. Why would you have selected well emotionally be part party sooner wanted she didn't want the government to shut down would try to get certain things through Bureau, pushing forth an increase in defense of this is kind of a compromise of the lung people of sentence like this continues funding for Planned Parenthood and and decided to build a wall that was Protestant and other things like that. Well, there is a lot not to like about the spending bill, but others have said no, no, we got another bill coming and that's it. That's the one is going to deal with Planned Parenthood.

So according to Kevin Theriot who is the senior counsel with the alliance defending freedom, quote, we commend the house, which by this vote has for the third time voted to end taxpayer funding to Planned Parenthood, the nation's most profitable abortionist is ADF in our ally Charlotte Lozier Institute have thoroughly documented this billion-dollar abortion driving giant has been implicated massive fraud, waste and abuse of Medicaid, and other federal and state programs Congress is well-founded concerning the Planned Parenthood and its affiliates are engaged in a pattern of deceptive practices designed to maximize their bottom line revenue should be enough reason to end the public largess on their behalf, even apart from the fact that they destroy 1/3 of a million human lives every year and have been involved in numerous other scandals mispronounced Kevin's name Terrio not the Terrio that's where they got pronunciation guide on the bottom was positive. This is good this is right now we get past the Senate. We shall see. Okay, my friend Rabbi Shirley so he meets with Steve Bannon in the White House in Steve Bannon's office and she really has spoken out on behalf of Steve Bannon cities, a friend of Israel is completely wrong to characterize him as an enemy of Israel as an anti-Semite or anything like that so their friends. They met and slowly took a picture with Steve Bannon and then with some of his wife, Debbie, and the picture as well. Okay, nope, no big deal. As I said, slowly meets with lots of different folks in high places and has lots of different pictures taken with them, etc. okay what is making the news and getting a lot of attention is when truly share these things. What was the backdrop with a standing in front of the window were they standing in the office looking at it the.

The wallpaper know it was taken in front of Steve Bannon's whiteboard and here it's giant whiteboard several panels with his to do list of everything that the administration is promised everything that the truck administration so the dude down the list, here's what's been done.

Here's what hasn't been done is what's in progress and there.

Some believe the Steve Bannon did quite intentionally to let this get out to show those that oppose him oppose the trump agenda here. This is our agenda is never changed.

This is where were going, but is systemic, but haven't seen it, just typing nationally and Bannon and I'm sure you'll see the relevant pictures. I did as the checklist is really surreal to do or cannot write back the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 86. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us friends on the 30 Jewish Thursday broadcast Michael Brown here so yesterday is in trump met with Palestinian Pres. Mahmoud Abbas. He was voted in for a certain number of years.

Quite a few years ago.

But as often happens in the Palestinian even our governments you get voted in and you just stay in. Of course Palestinian authority. Authority is at war. In many ways with Hamas. They have been at war, sometimes violently over the years, must displace posted authority in terms of the rule of Gaza Strip. The Palestinian Authority rules in so-called West Bank ancient Judea and Samaria, and it's been some years since Pres. Abbas has been invited to the White House and on the one hand you have to know he feels like a second-class citizen. You have to know he he he recognizes he's not going to be welcome the way. Prime Minister Netanyahu is welcomed right. That's, that's for sure. He he understands that, yet significant that they were together significant if they met, and Pres. Trump for his part did say a number of things that were very positive. In fact, Joey grabbed the clip number number 1919. This is White House press secretary Sean Spicer talking about some of the things that Pres. Trump said to Pres. Abbas today.

The president welcome the president of the Palestinian Authority the White House for an official visit to visit stem from a phone call that you leaders had on March 10 when Pres. Trump invited Pres. Abbas to Washington so they could discuss in person ways to move forward on a comprehensive agreement that would end the Israeli-Palestinian Palestinian conflict that you leaders made their own statements just a little bit ago to give you a few additional details some of the topics that were discussed during the meeting in the lunch were advancing the Israeli-Palestinian peace preventing incitement to violence, particularly media outlets directly associated with Palestinian Authority strengthening efforts to combat terrorism, including defeating ISIS measures to empower the Palestinian economy and provide economic opportunity, the Palestinian people and additionally the president raised concerns about the payments to Palestinian prisoners in Iraqi Israeli jails who have committed acts of terror into their families and emphasized the need to resolve this issue, although those are two big things that Pres. Trump considers a holistic llama focus on two Pres. Trump according to Sean Spicer talked to Markman Abbas about the incitement to terror that comes through the past and authority.

I bring an article about this. You can read it by going to asked her to Brown.org there is incitement to terror, and open that up considerably more as we go on the broadcast today. It's important to address that. Okay you want peace you want us to be a peace partner. Yet there is rhetoric coming from past and authority, be it through state run media, be it in the schools, be it in speeches beyond social media that is inciting Palestinians to ask of terror that significant that he brought that up also payments of Palestinian prisoners. They are Palestinian terrorists who are in Israeli prisons.

They are supported by the government by the Palestinian Authority government there.

There families are supported by the government and Rabbi Shirley has an op-ed in the Jerusalem Post, wondering aloud what did a lot of American taxpayers realize that their tax money is going towards us because we support Palestinian Authority and some of the money they get.

They use to support terrorists.

These are well-known, well documented facts and I'm glad that they were brought up. Now I'm getting get into the comments as we go on in the broadcast and take some of your calls shortly. But what I can see Pres. Trump is he is a negotiator right he's he's a mediator he's a negotiator he's a dealmaker. He said early on that he's heard this about the toughest deal to make Israel and the Palestinians. But he'd love to be involved. He said it looked to be a mediator or an arbitrator or facilitator, and we will get this done, but he did say there cannot be lasting peace. List the Palestinian leaders speak united voice against incitement to violate should say violence and violence and hate. It's like a typo in the official White House government document. There, but this year is. Here's how much for the boss begins a statement after his initial greetings. This is another second paragraph, Mr. Pres., I strategic option.

Our strategic choice is to bring about peace based on the vision of the two-stage Palestinian state with its capital histories that lives in peace and stability with the state of Israel based on the borders of 1967. What okay and not only is the push for East Jerusalem almost guaranteed to not produce peace. The fact is, the Jewish people of having historic connection with the city of Jerusalem. The Jewish people have long for reunited Jerusalem for decades and for centuries longed to be back Israel with Jerusalem as the capital. This is not significant in the Muslim world on the same level and certainly to the Palestinians. It does not carry the same weight historically find me hundreds of years back and Islamic longing or longing for the Arabs in the Middle East to have.

To have Jerusalem as the capital of the homeland is just not the reality. There an end.

Prime Minister Netanyahu said last year. The idea of a divided split with the city is what we will never return to our right and the idea of going back to 1967 borders that's that's impossible. That's indefensible. I'm in the borders are indefensible. You have save one part of Israel, which run 9 miles wide and I and all you need is a hostile enemy on either side and you cannot defend so that there's a lot more to get into, but I mentioned earlier, there's a movie coming out just one night only May 23 and select theaters called in our hands.

It's ironic that just one month shy of the 50th anniversary of the liberation of Jerusalem so the reuniting of East and West Jerusalem.

Just one month before that this one month before Israel's defeat of enemies that were ready to take them out and destroy them in the Six-Day War in 1967, which led to the expanded borders that Israel now has the defensible borders, even still very difficult to defend.

But the defensible borders with God's help, of course, isn't it ironic that Mark would Abbas is calling for divided Jerusalem and return to 1967 borders a Johnny clip number five Celia documentaries comes a new fill in our hand is that over Jerusalem, the extraordinary true story of the Six-Day War like crazy demand for six days in 1967, surrounded by enemies on all sides. Israel stood alone time is, and changed history making method of annihilation in our hands. The battle for Jerusalem is like movie theaters for a special one night event Tuesday, May 23 for theaters and tickets go to in our hands. 1967.com yup 50 years ago and yet Pres. Abbas calling for the dividing of Jerusalem and and for the return to the pre-67 borders. It is remarkable and this is what he believes this is what is campaigning for, but to talk about a failed strategy. You talk about the kind of seed you don't want to push their in the in the white hat.

What I mean that's what he wants to push this was people want to push, but talk about going in the wrong direction you so what makes Israel right here and Palestinians walked again just very, very simply, please show me first, the idea of the history of a Palestinian state. The idea that the Arabs living most call Palestine from the second century on, due to to the Romans show me anywhere where there was a movement to have a state this is our homeland is RR Pullman. If anything was part of greater Syria is never looked and is controlled by by different groups over the centuries, the most in some Christian but no point was there is consciousness of a Palestinian state. The only ones that were looking to have to to have a homeland there again with the Jewish people around the world and praying for the day of regathering. That's one thing but specifically Jerusalem every year. Jews would prancing next year in Jerusalem Jews around the world of the gestures they pray they pray facing Jerusalem. The Quran does not mention Jerusalem by name calling it Jewish but hundreds of times is mentioned in Scripture. There is no historic claim. Jerusalem is the capital of Houston people. It is part of the contention against his will be right back with your calls.

The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us on early Brown delighted and blessed to be with you but to go to the phones 866-34-TRUTH but just to remind you, you can read my article about Pres. Abbas's remarks and the issue site I have with them by going to Esther to Brown.org. Also check out our latest videos and other articles are written as well and to find out about this exclusive movie May 23 one night only in select theaters good in our hands. 1967.com in our hands. 1967.com is real eye-opener for me to watch. I like this quote from Mark would Abbas official P ATV posted a 30 TV. Fairbury 14th 2005. I demand the release of prisoners spinning Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails because they are human beings who did what we we ordered them to do. We passed an authority they should not be punished. Will we sit at one table negotiating this is war one minute Israel or the soldier kill and I wanted my son, brother, others to carry out the duty of resistance, which is a euphemism for terror. This person killed in the other person feel he speak of the Palestinian prisoners, a fighter just like any other fighter. We were instead of fighting when a truce is reached in any country in the world.

The pastors forgotten the prisoners not release the ordinary citizen will ask you what you get me you ordered me. You are responsible for me pretty clear I would say all right. Let's go to the phones will start in New York. Damien welcome to light a fire around. I never heard of someone being RB the Col., yes, and in what I was all right and what context and why he had The way in a hyper great preacher.

My friend involved in that great Bible Church in this hyper great but some pretty strange things, but they always go back to the original language which led me to believe that these people know a little bit more than the average preacher who may only be speaking in an English. So I attended up there, but there are more like Bible school teaching type of therapy.

Something about the angelic conflict and how the reason why human beings are because from the beginning of eternity past, they call Genesis 11 that he didn't feel a judgment on him by God who happened after he took 1/3 of the angels and he try to rebel against the Lord that they were to go to hell an appeal and that God granted it and God basically said man in my yeah yeah so we just jump in.

There is there is 000 support for that in Scripture and in body weight on your own accord to be happy to look into the angelic conflict that would need to talk about in the original language on top of that in Exodus 2122. We were talking about being polite that they were against abortion like myself and the abortion and I get back by yelling that he is jumping for time sink and sissy things. Number one is like junk out there is junk's bogus bogus is not based on Scripture's bogus is based on bizarre misinterpretations. So the way you presented things to me it's just a bizarre zone look into it is bizarre is another satyr's organs was our stuff out there right and candidly, if I spent my time refuting bizarre stuff out, I wouldn't even breathe the delete that be the end of life, especially with all the junk on online and things like that so readily available and look at every mistranslation you read modern mistranslation that's produced by major publisher. This get scholars behind. All right, carefully look at the original languages so it gives the reader the ridgelines is what we think of is doing but making up out of the heads right so don't don't ever let anyone intimidate you with that because if you look at 345 different English translations. You will see some variation since with epidural scholars involved with them. Now get Texas 21 in a minute but the only time I had heard the the RB theme, RB Thieme Junior name was was some years back when you asked me about this.

This rang a bell and it was it was about 70 years ago's 2009. Maybe when there is a guy that went on a rampage in LA fitness gym in Pittsburgh and then took his own life and in his journal. He professed to be a born-again Christian and said that he he was reading the writings of of RB theme and discovered there that no matter what he did by what happened he did he just go be with the Lord's of murder committed suicide is less he put his faith in Jesus and still go to heaven just the same, saying that RBC would would affirm what he did, of course.

Not that any human being with a conscience would affirm with the man did but that's right heard the name previously. As far as I recall, but very quickly.

Exodus I don't build my case about abortion. Damien annexes 2122 I build it on two nations are in your womb, with Rebecca being told about Esau and Jacob. I build it on before I formed in the womb I knew you Jeremiah 1 of us being carefully fashioned in the womb. Psalm 139 Johnny Mercer the baby John the Baptist in his mother. Elizabeth's womb leaps when Miriam Mary comes into the room with Jesus Yeshua in her womb.

So there both human beings one reacting to the other being filled with the spirit from that. That's what I want things out.

Exodus 2122 is debated as a secret read 10 different Jewish English translations.

It's debatable as to what the Hebrew says. For example you can James admin fight heard a woman with trials that she gives birth prematurely it no harm follows he should surely be punished accordingly as the woman's husband imposes on him and show up, he'll pay as the judges determine that it goes on to say life or life etc. so that would be saying if she gives birth prematurely, and there is no other harm, then let the, the husband and the judges impose the penalty. There is another way to translated which would say that if he caused her to miscarry. But there is no other harm, then here is that the various penalties but it's like to be a death penalty because miscarriages are considered to be telling it's not as severe.

That's that silly debate but I don't. And again I lean towards the. The premature birth, not the miscarriage. As I understand the text. But I don't base my opposition to abortion on that hey I gotta run the thank you sir for the questions. And yet these guys are off off friends as best as we can. We want to help you be right on target. This equip you and serve you and Esther to Brown today.

I've got a great e-book, seven secrets of the real Messiah, your gift to Santa for Evis today from the thousand year reign of the Messiah to Pres. Trump's meeting with Pres. Abbas. We got all coming away on thoroughly through Thursday is time for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown thank you thank you for joining us on thoroughly Jewish Thursday, 866-3487 84 every Jewish related question of any kind will do our best to provide you with solid answers from the word of God or whatever sources will shed light on the subjects that you're asking about. And I do want to get into more depth about comments that I say are outright deceptive that were made by Palestinian Authority Pres. Mahmoud Abbas.

It is meeting with Pres. Donald Trump yesterday. If you're not aware, for all those that labeled Pres. Trump and anti-Semite during the campaign he is declared may Jewish heritage month.

Yeah. And his speech in Holick at Holocaust remembrance Day. What was it little over week, a week and 1/2 ago drew the ire of anti-Semites like David Duke and others. These people on the extreme right who voted for Donald Trump and perhaps sought that he was a white supremacist as they were fashioned him in their own image that there is a lot that you may not like about Donald Trump and on that same is to defend him and I'm not saying this, saying that I agree with everything he's done.

Far from it. However, I never thought even in my days of Strong's opposition to him when I supported other candidates before the during the primaries. I never thought he was an anti-Semite. So these recent statements and actions only reaffirm that to me. Okay, before we go to the phones.

I got a call last week from an ultra Orthodox Jewish man. We understood that his name was pronounced alarm which thought that was it was slightly odd as we've interacted it would be the equivalent shalom but just pronounced it a bit more of a colloquial way and he had he had watched one of my debates are more on YouTube just kind of discovered who I wasn't and want to help me. Very sincere ultra-Orthodox Jewish man. He wanted to help me if he felt that I had an elevated Jewish soul that was intelligent, but I was terribly misled. I was misleading others, and that if I would just study with him one time to study with him one time and and look at sacred Jewish text together that it would open my eyes and transform my life. I said hey you got yourself a deal man.

Let's do it.

You leave your contact info. I did, he did not like the table. We talked about privately because it was a private conversation, but he did leave his contact info and I call the right after the show I add a bit of a drive so I called and ran after the show, and we spoke probably for 45 minutes and we had some intense debate about some specific issues and so cable will stay in touch. I emailed him we've gone back and forth an email that this point he may be unwilling to continue interacting with me.

There there are some who say that someone like me that you don't bother with that I'm a lost cause this from their perspective and we might trust me my eye unless I dearly, dearly love my fellow Jewish people who are so religious and devoted studying and praying and seeking to live the lives in a way that pleases God. I would say of course.

Of course they they fall short in the rejection of the Messiah, they fall way short. But my heart goes out to them and I fully understand why some of said on this Mike Brown guy you just leave him alone. You know you don't you will notice a no-no. You know he's Jewish so you gotta reach out to my thing is hey let's interact with interact.

But anyway, we decreased we did interact. I I said you bet I you want to study with me lets you determine what texturing you want to lecture me one must interact.

You tell me is gonna happen is up to him it's up to him right now seems unwilling, but I told hey man, you made the claims on the radio.

Let's do it I believe is deeply sincere is pray for right back with your cost on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown TA.org is telegraph agency from April 26, Jews with most educational and least religious study finds American Jews with the highest level of education are the least religious, according to a new study. The more years of schooling, American Jews have, the less religious they are.

Interestingly, among Christians, those with high levels of education appear to be just as religious as those with less schooling on average, very interesting. Orthodox Jews are partly a reason for the difference. The study set on average the Orthodox are more religious and have less sexual education and on her Orthodox counterparts, but education accounts were split among Orthodox Jews, while 93% of Orthodox Jews who have not graduated from college believing God, while 82% of Orthodox college graduates do more than 80% of both groups. A religion is important to them. Among non-Orthodox Jews.

The difference is reason starker, nearly double the number of noncollege graduates believe in God, 45%. As to college graduates 23%, nearly 30% of non-Orthodox Jews without college degrees in religion is important to them.

The number foster 20% among those who have graduated testifies to is is the degree the degree of secularization in the.

The colleges and universities that Christians are confronted with that too. But perhaps the intensity of Jewish study and they focused learning Dan 95. Jewish tradition is challenge even even more in a secular setting where were people outside of that bubble very interesting, though, 86634 let's go to Richmond, Virginia. Lisa your online a fire hi Dr. Brown think you're talking like how you walk upon request and found that Haycock Ever hearing her pension research and I don't remember the name of that rabbi don't hang on my neck confronting me back that rabbi to according to the research and I can add that apparently he's the one who instituted the Passover Seder dictator play all of that, the Seder plate definitely and he said on his background now that he is Kabbalah and he according to research had everything Angel that used it to him regularly and he would have these conversations which is what he called an angel. Basically navigating the information and told him a lot of things about what their I found my first question is do you have any information on this particular rabbi) talking about okay there in terms of the, the origin of the Seder plate is we have. We do not know exactly how it came to pass. There are different traditions with different claims, and in terms of who is responsible. There even messianic Jews who claim that there were messianic Jewish believers that instituted some of the customs and you know fruit.

For example, that the piece of matzoh.

The middle piece of three which is broken and hidden signifying that the death of the son of God and his resurrection right here. Hence there but you can say that symbolically we find that meaning in it, but the idea that messianic Jews help institute the tradition, there is there is no there is no evidence for that. But in the same way we do not know exactly where some of the specific traditions come from and what I say we I mean traditional Jewish scholars secular Jewish scholars. We simply don't know for sure this is just another traditional claim and you have it in and here's what happens with different religions, especially Judaism, which rely so much on tradition is that if you have a particular practice and you don't know why we do this is member.

One of the tour laws do this when your children ask why you can tell in this this, the other right. So the question is when when you don't know why then you gotta try to figure it out and and sometimes the claim will meet all well this goes only back to Moses on Mount Sinai another's week.

We can't find any evidence for so much going back to Moses and and others will will attribute things back to this famous rabbi that famous rabbi, there may be a document say the Kabbalah or of the Zohar, which is essential book of books of the of the Kabbalah and everything we know they're written in the 13th century will Jewish tradition says no, the they go back to rabbi Shimon denier high in the second century and things get traced back like that. So whatever you were hearing about is the same thing, just just put it on the shelf is an interesting tradition and nothing more but no historic value to it exactly yeah yeah and in other words, as far as the origins of it.

As far as this tradition that you heard just put that on the shelf as that's very interesting, but it's just a human tradition is no historical support for we know for sure that for many centuries these elements on the Seder plate were used know and this represents the there the bitterness of our time in Egypt and Incipio and in these various things and you know that the bone of the land that recognize that that reminds us of of the land that was sacrificed it. It's there because Jewish families and not sacrificing a lamb together in times like that, but as far as the alleged origins of it going back to the skull ballistic rabbi no-no. That's just just tradition.

That's all it is and no historic support for it at all, hate, hope that helps and thank you for the call 8663 for 87884 yeah this is who confesses will have Matt, thanks for thanks for sending this my way.

All right, when I spoke with this ultra-Orthodox Jewish man last week. He said I have an elevated Jewish soul, whatever that meant. But of course with me is totally deceived and he wanted help me swipe.

He reached out again.

I appreciate his love for me as a fellow Jew and I understand how he looks at growing up as an ultra-Orthodox Jew and seeing things a certain way you look at somebody like Mila Acoma Washington on sand from another planet.

Just trying to deceive Jews and pull away from from the truth. So I appreciate his love for me and I recognize how he sees me right, so he said I had an elevated Jewish soul. But again, the loss of thanks Matt for sending this my way.

An article from 2013 teen in in Ha'aretz which is a liberal Jewish newspaper publication gave Jews have higher souls than Gentiles says the deputy minister according to the Ben donis worldview, there is a clear hierarchy in the world.

There is a supreme race. The very same chosen people call the Jewish nation at the top of the pyramid are the heterosexual Jewish man if I understood correctly underneath the mother Jewish women Jewish pastors and Jewish homosexuals. But then there still higher than Gentile souls. Yet there there are some traditional Jews who believe that Jews in general or of an elevated nature in that Gentiles are a lower nature and that in the messianic era in the in the reign of the Messiah, the earth, that the Jews will be serving God and Gentiles will be serving Jews.

If you remember when Paul gave his testimony and asked the 22nd chapter when he said that God had called him to the Gentiles.

There was an uproar, and then when Paul writes that in the Messiah. Jew and Gentile are equal.

These these are revolutionary concepts for many know that there plenty plenty of Jewish leaders who do not believe that your souls are higher than Gentile souls. But there are some who very plainly do in a rabbi almost me last week another rabbi who referred to this one of the reasons that he takes issue with some Hasidic teaching call from the Lubavitcher sect that that says in their most sacred writings of their founding rabbi that Jewish souls are on a higher plane than Gentile souls.

This mentioned that. So I guess based on that you got this hierarchy and a Jewish homosexuals higher than it Gentile, heterosexual. Anyway, enough with that. The good news is Messiah came, bad news. All of us of sin.

All of us a fallen short.

All of us are corrupt. Within all of us are or defective in a very serious fundamental level to the core of our being without God, without his mercy in desperate need of Messiah's redemption. But again, the good news Messiah came, shed his blood for us as an atoning sacrifice so we threw him could be for bit forgiven that we threw him could receive redemption that we threw him could know God directly. Jew know him directly. It is he father to you in the Closest Most Intimate Way, Jew know that you know if you to direct that you be in his presence has the burden of your sin lifted off of you so that you feel free and you're not bound and enslaved by those things. If not, call out to him today. God I want to know you gonna want to serve you want to live for you. Forgive me if I do it through the Jesus did on the cross of their right right back with your costliest number and the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown, Gary. Welcome to the line of fire by Dr. Brown. It's a pleasure to speak to you today.

I was on the line last week and I was there the whole conversation between that the person I called in and I just commend you Dr. Brown to the patient's view showed that man.

I mean, he was just hurling insults you, and the faith that that we all share of the in the virgin birth of Jesus to GP. Made light of that, he said that Mary had a pre-marital relationship and Jesus was illegitimate and you just took it. Dr. Brown and you just you just listen and you took it and I just commend you for your patience.

I could, I could not of done and I your your you're really role model, and great God. In my eyes that yet again I thank thank you for the kind words and you know God is a patient with us in our ignorance, and especially when you have someone like this gentleman who from everything I understand that is background this is. He was talking to me on the air and of course further conferences interacted. He's grown up in an ultra-Orthodox environment and seeing things through very focused lens and sees the world very differently understand the Scriptures very differently has been immersed in this from his earliest days see someone like me and and on this.

You know this this ultimate outsider doing terrible damage and this is leave things a certain way. So of course you have great love and patience towards those coming from that perspective.

And I hope that that other listeners will really be really be praying for him as well. You didn't mention in the conversation.

Isaiah 53 will be hundred 52, 53, and for the life of me, Dr. Brown. I don't understand how Jewish person can read that. I don't know how a rabbi could read that scripture and not see the Lord Jesus Christ and not Scripture and edits the Old Testament edge. Their writings, I'm not a really smart guy Dr. Brown and one when I read that I could not help but see Jesus Christ and that Scripture and I don't understand how a rabbi cannot see that on yeah it's it's notes which really interesting. Gary obviously, I share your conviction in terms of the clarity of that passage as the strongest clearest statement about the atoning death of the Messiah anywhere and in the Bible. In fact it's even it's even laid out more clearly even laid out more clearly in the the Hebrew Scriptures in terms of the theology of it. Then, in the New Testament is for the explicit nature of substitutionary atonement and I can I give you in detail every single verse why rabbi say couldn't be Jesus why traditional view say could be Jesus why this it has to be the nation of Israel, the righteous remnant. Within Israel, or some other some of the candidates, but every I know the objections inside out and that when I read the passage it comes jumping off the page to me but but to give you an idea of something, though in terms of praying for eyes to be opened. I talked to a religious Jewish friend years ago, lives in another country and he said I I can't see how you can see Jesus in this passage.

It's one thing to say. I see how you see it, but I differ, I understand your argument but I differ, but he literally said II can't see how you can see Jesus here and I thought this is not amazing. I mean he's he's an educated guy talk and have a normal conversation, you know what I'm saying it's not like words have no meaning in things like that. And yet, you know, we could see we could study Scripture side-by-side and agree on hundreds of other things but when it comes to the Messiah that they would say where the ones misreading it that I say will it's let's just let the tech speak for itself, but it was was that which when asked about as if it were okay. I will call for Dr. Brown. I became a believer in Jesus. Many years ago Yeshua chooses tell everyone call Messiah. I was raised that you know Hebrew school Barnett through the opening and God.

He called me in a very strange way. Not your normal way and I was I was involved in two different ball I take to just jump in. I'm short on time so and I'll just get to the heart of the question. I'm sure it's an interesting story, but I don't head like my question is Dr. Brown my mother and father both died before I I have to crew our understanding of the Scripture, God and other than on other than Romans the 11th chapter 26 verse which shares all so all Israel will be saved. Other than that Dr. Brown can you give me any old any anything that I can hang my hat on that.

My mother and father are not going to be in hell Gary. This is this is the question that certainly averages come to faith is asked, mother and father. What about my family had died before me were my grandparents and not only Jewish people rest with this Gary but Gentiles different parts the world where the gospel comes for the first time they are excited to hear this amazing news is some group this reach for the first time and then when you base and when did this happen to him almost 2000 years ago and and what it takes long to get to me.

And what about our parents and grandparents, and this is something that we all have to wrestle with. I don't believe Romans 1126 is speaking of every Jew in history. Being safe I don't see any guarantee of that.

I believe the be a national turning at the end of the age. That's Romans 1126 is is speaking about.

But II do not see any specific promise that we can say okay all of our relatives in the past will be saved.

We know for sure that we been under judgment, often scattered around the world and we know for sure that past generations know the days the apostles saw the Messiah himself and rejected him soul there and many times we been judged by God. Right within the Hebrew Scriptures. So here's Riley. Thanks Gary. I leave things by trusting in the righteousness of God. I leave things the trusting of the goodness and fairness of God, whether it's for my my father mother with her to my grandparents when it's for someone else. If I did not know that they explicitly receive the Lord.

I have to trust them with the voice of Abraham, always relevant. Genesis 18 will not the God of all the earth you write stand before a monetary Gary know that whatever he does is right and good and will affirm that's my whole thanks. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 66343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown to get along unbelievably well. I had meetings and at these ratings.

I was actually very impressed and somewhat surprised at how well they get along they work together beautifully. That was president Trump yesterday making remarks along with Palestinian Authority Pres. Mahmoud Abbas about Israeli leaders and Palestinian leaders working together to coordinate security and things like that and is typical, forthright way present from city was somewhat surprised to see how they got along. Yet there were disturbing comments made by Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas yesterday and I want to focus on those welcome to 30 Jewish Thursday on the line of fire. This is Michael Brown here's number to call 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884.

A big day the government today, the House passed a bill to defund Planned Parenthood, the House passed the health care bill to repeal and replace Obama care what's good and bad about the bill. I am absent, not expert on that I can see a bit more about Planned Parenthood. I can say more on the executive order that Donald Trump signed a release today in conjunction with the national Day of prayer for religious liberties and coming against the the Johnson amendment of the tax code, but there's a lot to analyze and I hope to get into it with the next 24 hours double and flying to Phoenix tonight and then participating in a special Israel conference over the weekend. If you live anywhere near Phoenix go to Esther to Brown.org to find out more. Also, when you are@askeddr.brown.org. Be sure to read my article about the Palestinians and excuse me.

Palestinian Authority Pres. Mahmoud Abbas's comments and my take on it, only to get into some on the radio here in the next few minutes a meditator calls as well. You'd usually calls River. The whole article on it and asked Dr. Brown.org but I want to get a great e-book to that's absolutely free. We've made this available to you absolutely free. If you listing are thoroughly Jewish Thursday. In particular you want to get this.

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So again president Trump calling for the end of incitement to hate and really pointing to the Palestinian Authority saying you're guilty of that. And yet, yet Pres. Abbas said this or are you ready he said this I affirm to you that we are raising our youth, our children, our grandchildren on a culture of peace may may I read that again present. Abbas said Mr. Pres., I affirm to you that we are raising our youth, our children, our grandchildren on a culture of peace all know all know that is not true. I give examples in my article you be more few minutes right here on the line of fire calls for file the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown nonsense King David Stein, so it would be the second time in the last in our hands that will be shown May 23 one night only Tuesday night at select theaters special one night event about the Six-Day War and the miracle of the liberation of Jerusalem. The reuniting of Jerusalem it's it's powerful.

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Watching it, it's it re-creates some of what happened in this terrible violence and suffering many lives lost.

It interviews many of the people involved in the liberation of Jerusalem to find out more go to in our hands. 1967.com in our hands. 1967.com before go to the phones at about about this. So Tuesday Israel independence day. Your moth smoke boot and this past Tuesday, so the same day UNESCO, which is United Nations education's educational, scientific and cultural organizations in executive board issued a statement that gave put forth a resolution rejecting Israeli sovereignty and jurisdiction over Jerusalem, a majority of 22 states voted in favor 10 voted against and 23 abstained Deputy Foreign Minister sippy.

I totally call the resolution absurd. We become used to the crop to the concert to fake news will welcome to fake history.

UNESCO's long been politicized and fortunate has become a tool of the service of Palestinian propaganda against Israel as she stated such absurd and historically baseless resolutions undermine UNESCO's mission of safeguarding humanity's cultural heritage. What poor joke of a statement from UNESCO and of course Israel stands up to it with a firm rebuke.

Let's go the phones in Winston-Salem.

Chris, welcome to the line of fire and well.

Thank you.

The board. Four of them supposedly going to Israel to mark their agreement not of the paltry and I wanted to I wanted to get your crop here dear start almost blank space days of the hardest argument would be the paltry yes or look back at what that only about about her lot of her lot spoke about, you know, we don't know about when Jesus will return that idiom because they were saying that the profits will solicit notice that in that's not a million people made a claim with Talmudic NEM notes is not an idiom. Also, for sure, that is what the messiahs is saying there so here's here's the obvious, the obvious question then Chris, as you say the the earlier prophecies so Passover feast of unleavened bread, firstfruits, and Pentecost shoveled feast of weeks. Those all happen at those times. Messiah dies at the time of of the sacrificing of the Passover lambs right he is resurrected in conjunction with firstfruits. The first day after the Sabbath, he rises 50 days later shoveled Pentecost, the feast of weeks. The Holy Spirit is poured out.

So now clearly we know what the last three feasts point to a man that seems very very clear that the feast of trumpets. The sounding of the trumpets, which in later Jewish tradition becomes recession the beginning of the year but as you say it's it's the full fee September October these fall every year that clearly points to the return of the Messiah. That's definite. What is its definite wealth. We know that there yet to be fulfilled. So, will they point to. Well, feast of trumpets.

The trumpet blast.

Matthew 24 first Corinthians 15 first Thessalonians 4 Messiah returns with the blast of the trumpet, first with his 15 senses. The last trumpet. Revelation 11 tells us with the sounding of the seventh of seven trumpets the kings of this will become the kingdom of our God and the reign forever and ever so trumpet, the feast of trumpets certainly points to the Messiah's return was that followed by day of atonement right there is a time of testing, trial, and then day of atonement, some 10 days later first in the seventh month trumpets tested the seventh month atonement that that's obvious. He speaks of national cleansing, especially for Israel, and in five days after the Tabernacles. This is the harvest of the nations. This is the ingathering of the nations and when we see it we see it in Zechariah 12 that the Jewish people look to the 1/8 pierced in morning and repent.

So that's with his return that corresponds to trumpets, which leads to Zechariah 13. At that time, the fountains open to the house of Israel for cleansing and and so there we have it in Zechariah 13 Dave atonement cleansing of the nation and then Zechariah 14 is explicit that that the survivors of the nations that attacked Jerusalem will do what they will come up to Jerusalem to celebrate the feast of Tabernacles. So the obvious question is okay. Does this mean that the Messiah is going to come literally a visa trumpets one year. In other words get to be a September October date and we don't know the exact year. But if we can figure out the year than we know the day you could argue for that sir. You could argue for an end the argument would be just as the first feasts were fulfilled at that time. Then the second feast that that the spring fees were fulfilled at that time of year on the calendar and and the the fall feast will be fulfilled is on the calendar disabled and his bailment to know the exact day. That's the problem that's the exact problem crystal for sure.

I see this pointing to the return of the Lord cleansing of Israel and the ingathering of the nations.

Can you argue that that's what's going to happen and will but then you would know the day so it's it remains a question doesn't speak of these things symbolically that they will happen at that time or just speak of them literally fell happen at the time as weak as it happens, will find out, but to predict it's gonna be on this particular day. I don't believe we can do that based on the Scripture that Eric Clarion.

Mary all right great, glad, glad to know that thank you sir 866-34-TRUTH if I grab another call that I want to get back to the Abbas Trump meeting yesterday. I we go to Des Moines, Iowa Daniel, welcome to the line of fire my court and do with Roman 11/20 that meaning that all you all will be in heaven. Yes, Daniel. It's interesting that the last half hour right before this half hour I was asked that identical question based on the lack of very nominal.

Don't apologize because it was by a Jewish man wondering what about his mother and father. They died before he really understood the wording to really share the gospel with them so II would love it.

Daniel I would love it, sir, if I could tell you that every Jewish person who ever lived in history is can be saved in the future. The Romans 1126 impulses and so all Israel will be saved, that it meant every Jewish person in history. I would love that. But I'm sure that's not the case, why will we know that Jewish people sin like everyone else. We know there's only one way to God.

Assume Messiah and we know that in in Old Testament times before the coming of Jesus that we were often under judgment and and cursed not blast and scattered into exile in the Temple destroyed.

These were signs that we were not right with God and again I would love it if I could say yeah everyone gets in, but there's no basis for it scripturally. Jews have had more opportunity to know God through history because that the word of God was entrusted to the Jewish people, Jews also have more accountability and remember that you sure rebuke religious hypocrites in his day in and spoke of their their lostness at end and there be no judgment in Peter and Paul dealt with Jewish people in their day who rejected the message of the Messiah, even when his car was demonstrated in front of their eyes. Thankfully the Jewish people around the world who do believe in heavily through the generations, but we have the same issue with the whole Gentile world's are in every soul equally loved by God's we have we have this identical issue with Gentiles around the world know we don't have as many promises to Gentiles. Do Jewish people.

But when I was much accountability either in and why. Why was why was Paul so broken hearted Romans nonlawyers to say I wish I could be cut off for the Messiah forever myself.

That would bring salvation to my people of the reason his heart was broken was because Jewish people were lost. Just as somebody Gentiles are lost. So it's it's every subject of much of the world rejects God and is lost, and it's painful to know that's what we share all the more. That's what we pray all the more.

That's what we weep all the more for the salvation of the Jewish people to salvation Gentile world covering many to himself days ahead. For those of the past. They will all stand before God and all the perfectly righteous because like you, sir, her and by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown and know on one for Michael Brown like with your I want to finish off going back to the meeting with Pres. Trump and Pres. Abbas yesterday if he is tuning and I do hope to have something in writing in the next 24 hours with my thoughts on prison trumps executive order what we make of that. How we should understand in terms of religious liberty. A lot of other things happening in the news today with the White House and the national Day of prayer.

All right, so when my friend Abbas. It is scripted comments yesterday said Mr. presidents about time for Israel to end its occupation of our people in Overland after 50 years. These were the only remaining people the world is to live under occupation.

We are spying and want to achieve our freedom, our dignity, our right to self-determination.

We also want Chris will recognize the Palestinian state. Just as the Palestinian people recognize the state of Israel right there number difficulties with that paragraph first. The reason the so-called occupation is that the refusal of Arab at first is the refusal of our leadership to agree to previous to state office first 1937, 1947 second, the attempted armed destruction of Israel, 1967, which Israel preempted with the Six-Day War expanding spores in the process insert ongoing Arab and Palestinian attacks on the Jewish people because which Israel is continue to control the West Bank of the Jordan entry today and Samaria salute to lay the blame on Israel salve the situation backwards. And then, when present, Abbas talks about Israel recognizing Palestinian state as they recognize the Israel has Pres. Abbas in Arabic recognize Israel as a Jewish state. And what about reports early this year's last when I saw demonstrated in the Palestinian Authority textbooks ignore the existence of Israel where where is the recognition of Israel among the Palestinians fully and as it should be you.

You have not really hurt look yes our thought is to be famous for making statements where he would say, recognize Israel in English and then go and preach in Arabic culture jihad against Israel and and basically deny everything he said but but the biggest thing the biggest thing he said he says this, Mr. Pres., I friend you that we are raising our youth, our children or grandchildren. A culture of peace really, but by naming schools after Palestinian terrorists that's that's how you raise children in a culture of peace. Last year in elementary school was named after the mastermind of the Munich massacre the Olympic massacre elementary school you celebrate these terraces, martyrs make them heroes for the children to emulate spread false information about Israel. The temple mount so so that even teenagers 13-year-old teenagers get provoked and start stabbing Israelis. Israeli kids and others. Is it so provoked by the misinformation restoration on a culture of peace 2016 about this report for Tuck Central committee member Sultana Albo all in on II Susie I-9, a top adviser to Palestinian Authority Pres. Marvin Abbas told the Palestinian website, June 2016. If you asked me my blood position I would say every place you find Israeli slit his throat a few days later, 17-year-old Mohammed Nasser to riot broke into the home of 13-year-old hello Jan Faria and stabbed her to death in her bed.

Yeah, parents think about think of that you 13-year-old sleeping in her bed stabbed to death by Palestinian teenager was he directly provoked by these comments are the larger incitement of the Palestinian Authority to murder Israelis power watchtower reports this if you haven't got the power to constantly watch spent some time there shocked just reports what's happening Palestinian leader just says it is latest. This is us on TV the start of Facebook.

Fa�ade newspapers just this reporting translate into English. Suicide bomber honored a year later with a monument and use procession this this was from April 19 suicide bomber honored a year later with monument and use procession is, is this what you call raising our youth, our children, our grandchildren on a culture of peace that I believe most Palestinians want peace. Their leaders are all one of the biggest problems of all here. Aaron Klein Breitbart.com has an article reinforces Abbas misleads Trump we are raising our children on a culture of peace. The very thing that jumped at me, jumped in our incline. So he give some examples just for the past two weeks leading Islamic cleric appointed by Abbas claimed in a PA Housing Authority TV sermon earlier this week that Israel is waging war against the Muslim world with drugs and sex mania official PA TV broadcast a special edition of the TV show for the family home of a terrorist who murdered his Israeli employer 15 years ago, referring to him as a hero and source of pride for pasta on the bosses fought tough to be a Palestinian woman declared that the real meaning of the promised land is the place for all will fulfill his promise to exterminate all Jews are bosses fought tough party published an anti-Semitic cartoon comparing Israel to the Islamic state terror group and official PA daily newspaper published a cartoon last week depicting the message water the soil with your blood. I saw the cartoon.

It's just it's perverse. It's absolutely perverse rubbish movie has an article in op-ed piece from today or yesterday in the Jerusalem Post US taxpayers know that Palestinian terrorists are on their payroll yeah and again that that terrorists who are here. Here's an example I terrorists who get out of prison celebrated actually says there is no secret made of the heroic homecoming offered by PA Pres. Mahmoud Abbas to free Palestinian terrorist in 2013 in which he triumphantly held at the hands of brutal thugs such as album, Moussa aunt Tia who asked Isaac Rottenberg a 67-year-old survivor of the Silberberg death camp to death at a construction site is for those terrorists. You never made it home. They have street schools, parks and competitions named after them and on and on it goes.

Girl Scouts participating in fought tough ceremony in memory of female terrorist dull all on the probably one of the most violent mass murderers. Anna Anna busts out with with other terrorists and they systematically began to slaughter the Israelis one at a time, including children number their six years old and they threw the corpses out the back door to try to stop the security forces as they were trying to catch up with the boss over 30 Israeli slaughter during that when she gets out of prison.

She's honored as a heroine of her people and the Girl Scouts Housing Authority good or Pres. Girl Scouts participate in the ceremony in in her in her memory. Looking back to her life.

Yeah I said command prison celebrations and looking back at her.

Her life celebrating her memory. This this is what's going on and this is the greatest obstacle peace of them all.

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