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Thanks for calling. You're welcome great to talk to you again Dr. Brown. I just had a have a question I was wondering if you could shed some light on a difficult passage of Scripture that being first came 13 verses 11 through 24 had seen though the young prophet was clearly deceived by the older prophet. We don't know why the older prophet did what he did but the punishment that the young prophet received from God. Pain is very harsh to me just what wondering what you had to say about it right. It is a very interesting passage of Scripture. So first, the Bible is recording what happened. It's not making a moral judgment on what happened.
It's recording what happened and there are certain lessons we can learn from it.
But for those not familiar this younger prophet who sent to bring a message to Jeroboam the King of Israel, and he gives him a prophecy about judgment.
That's gonna come on him and how God is going to raise up a man named Joe side, of course, this is centuries later, who will execute some of this judgment and God tells him gives him a specific word that he stood to go one way is to come back that ways not to stop. Eat anything like that and then an older prophet. Here's what happened, and recognizes this is a true word from the Lord. But then tells the guys stop eat with me. I'm a prophet to God told me you could do it and then of course when the young man does it. There's judgment that's pronounced on him for violating the word of the Lord and he he dies so what the motivations of the older prophet are or more mysterious.
How devious was it how how much was he just used to test this man.
Those are questions that can be asked but the clear lesson for millions of readers over the generations that the clueless is very simple. When God gives you an explicit direct command that is I can send someone with a different explicit command to you that counterman said. For example, if God speaks in the 10 Commandments, do not steal or do not murder or do not commit adultery and then someone else comes. This is will the Lord told me that you can murder or commit adultery or steel that we reject that word. It's the same with bail him when when the ascot should I go curse Israel.
God gives him a threefold answer in Numbers 22.
Don't go, don't curse them as their blessed three tells the messenger.
Sorry can't do it when Billy King of Moab sends further envoys offering them even more money is like, I can only do what God says I'll ask Megan you don't ask again when you have an explicit definite word from the Lord. So it's a painful lesson but in that setting. It was a lesson that had to be learned. It doesn't speak of that young prophet's eternal fate, but it's a very loud lesson for all of us to learn so disturbing passage, but one with a very strong moral lesson. Nonetheless, okay. Thank you yeah and and remember what is what is in Scripture today. Is there not just for the people in Bible times, but for all of us who would read these accounts in the centuries that followed certain things did happen that were somewhat extreme, but there is a lesson that it's learn for everybody and subsequent generations, millions and millions of people so a lesson worth learning 866-348-7884. Let's go to David in Zebulun, North Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire around you doing well.
Thanks. Think about him averaging to address right where you're going and blessing to Esau after Jacob Tristram and of the Bible study and look like that the King James version was very different from ideas being honored are looking at the beach. This is Genesis 27 to remember what in particular with verse was was different. You're going to be. You're going to dwell away from the land or something like that. Okay right so so the Hebrew, there could be translated a couple of different ways and and that's that's where the debate would be it's it's overall us. Susan, I just type in that the wrong entry here it's overall a minor difference of but just can skip down to the end of Genesis 27 where where this takes place is a very dramatic emotional account here. Okay, let's just see right so he gives Jacob the blessing than Esau comes in on the firstborn. The whole drama unfolds blessed me to what else can I say so.
Isaac then gives him this blessing us see your abode shall enjoy the fat of the earth and the dew of heaven above you by your sword, you shall live.
And you shall serve your brother but when you grow restive you shall break his yoke from your neck.
Okay, are you sure that it was in this passage that the difference was found as as it is supposed to. The word over your thinking specifically of the word over Esau because there there's elsewhere with Ishmael. Weather-related prophecies about him and believed all against his brethren, or next to will be hostile or not so you're sure that it was the this account that you were looking at year 20 government yet that's the past and all of the some other read to you the blessing over Jacob and in the blessing over Esau. May God give you of the dew of heaven, and the fat of the earth. Abundance of new green wine with people serve urination spouts to you the master of your brothers and let your brother, your mother's son's value.
Crispy those who curse you and bless though they who bless you. Okay so that's Isaac blessing over Jacob and then when Esau asked for the blessing so that other verses that follow you so finds out what happens weeps over that don't have any blessing yet for you. Verse 37 Isaac answered Cynthia so but I've made a master of you have given him all his brothers for services sustained with grain and one more thing, can I still give you my son have any blessing left, so really again see your abode shall enjoy the fat of the earth and the dew of heaven above it by your sword, you shall live. And you shall serve your brother but when you grow restive you shall break his yoke from your neck so those are those the words again we keep it. The old away from the back of the show you're going be in away from the dew of heaven on I got it okay so when you mentioned brothers. That's the thing that it confuses me because that's that's with Ishmael earlier on. That's what I was looking from the sort that out right so that the that the Hebrew here that the preposition ma'am is used, which can mean from so derived from or away from and that's that's why you have the difference so the new Jewish publication Society see your abode shall enjoy the fat of the earth, meaning that it that you will be sustained by the fat of the earth, and that would be.
It's a positive statement that's been made. It's a blessing it's been spoken over him, but you can also take the ma'am, as away from separated from, which would make less sense here so that that's why the difference could be sorted that out. Took a little while to figure out where right so in verse 39 in a niche niche Monday Ha'aretz so yeah so is from the fat of the land will will will be your abode so you will enjoy it.
You will benefit from it is supposed to say that a blessing over him that you will be separated from the fat of the land. Rather, you will you will be enriched by the fat of the land. All right Yep, good.
I learned quickly sorted that out there is little while to get there. 866-34-TRUTH 87884 let us go over to Joseph in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Welcome to the line of fire, either. Dr. Brown good afternoon afternoon. I have a question regarding the book of Hebrews and believe it was yeah it was Chapter 9 basically says that Jesus of high priest offered his own blood for atonement in the holy of holies in heaven. My question is did he offer his blood before or after his resurrection, writes a great question. And the Bible does not tell us explicitly. In other words, does he ascend to heaven before he physically rises from the dead and cleanse the heavenly's and prepare the way right and then so this is part of what he's doing during the three days so he descends into the netherworld.
He declares his victory over hell and death.
He seals the fate of the ungodly and the rebels. He then ascends to heaven cleanse cleanses the heavenly's and then returns to earth as people with a picks up his body meets with his disciples all those days and and then ascends or does he do the cleansing of the heavens.
Afterwards, logic would say, since he rises from the dead, but then spends 40 days on the earth with his disciples that logic would say that he ascended to heaven spiritually.
Before that, because otherwise the time of his death on the cross until his ascension to heaven is 40 days so that would mean that he didn't do that heavenly cleansing for 40 days to notice the said explicitly. The logic would be that he ascend to heaven and does it before his resurrection within his 40 days after the resurrection before he ascends to heaven bottom. Thank you for the cold of simple minds open, 866343 the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown was kind of fire. Have you signed up for Israel trip yet know planning on going want to go. Don't know about it go to website ask Dr. Brown a SK DR Brown Dr. Borg see it right on the homepage for the first slide is talking about the new book the political seduction of the church which you can now preorder assigned number copy throughout early September and then second slide that should come up be about the Israel trip. It really is the trip of a lifetime.
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Dr. Brown I saw of sweet about it opportunity question today I'm hearing it if you're on a radio show.
So I would like to know how to listen to that but my actual question what about the Jewish faith, and it has two components. The first is more personal to you but I was. In modern day Jewish faith. The different the reforms Jewish people and for example the conservative and Orthodox and then the question I have, was studying about you coming from the Jewish faith. What was your background and just for fun.
Do you by chance know if you have any priestly line that yes sure will the lessons easy to answer because everything we don't know know know priestly heritage that's been passed on to the family. Not that hint of it. Not a trace of it to our to our knowledge. As for how to listen unless you have a local radio station that carries the show. The easiest thing to do is just go to website ask Dr. Brown.org and you can you can watch live you actually see my :-) because we do a live stream on YouTube and on Facebook and then there any number of other ways to listen.
Once the show is over, but Esther could Brown.org ask if your Brown.org or just ask Dr. Brown on Facebook or YouTube. We do a live stream of the broadcast. Every day, so we do live radio review lifestream on video and then people listen afterwards on podcast and various other means. Okay, so the three major branches of Judaism are orthodox conservative reform and Orthodox is is one that takes the Scriptures as God's word so the Hebrew Bible is God's word believes the authority of Jewish tradition and seeks to live those things out so Orthodox Jews will also be called traditional Jews or rabbinic Jews. They are strictly keeping the Sabbath. They are carefully observing the dietary laws Jewish man praying three times daily, etc. they would be looked at.
If you want to look at the equivalent of Christian men as strongly conservative Christians. In other words, that that we would share a lot of same moral values. A lot of same beliefs about devotion to God and the importance of following his ways and believing if the Scripture say certain things as truth than they are truth of Reform Judaism grew up over 200 years ago. Beginning in Germany with the goal of reforming Judaism and moving it away from what were considered to be antiquated viewpoints.
Now we know better. We know that Moses didn't really write the Pentateuch. Now we know better, but other parts of the Bible that they didn't really happen the way were told they happen the idea of Israel being a chosen nation is overly exclusivist stick that the dietary laws. Those those are primitive, the idea of having a temple sacrifices is outdated. We should call our own buildings, temples and things like that so it broke away very radically in the earliest days of Reform Judaism. It almost flaunted itself and would even have Sunday services and added music and because music was not you have chance to be of no musical instruments in the synagogue and things like that so it broke away many radical ways and to this day.
Reform Jews are very liberal so they would make up the largest percentage of Jews in America but through assimilation of that the numbers are going in the wrong direction. Where's Orthodox Jews are growing quite rapidly because of high birth rates and people looking for a deeper spiritual commitment Reform Jews would be leading the way. Just like liberal Christians or left-wing Christians on issues like abortion may be strongly pro-abortion they be strongly pro-redefining marriage to same-sex quote marriage, they would be on the opposite and of many of the key issue say the evangelical Christians in America reform Jews would be on the other end of that you could have a lot of people coming to the high holy certain services several times a year but you're not can have a lot of people from week to week strictly observing the Sabbath live by the dietary laws and things like that a conservative Judaism began a little over 100 years ago as a reaction against Reform Judaism, but these were Jews who intellectually could no longer be traditional they could no longer say that God dictated the Pentateuch to Moses, they could no longer accept some of the authority of the rabbinic traditions, but they knew that it was important to conserve tradition so conservative Judaism does not mean conservative. The way you'd say I'm a conservative Republican from conservative evangelicals of like that it meant conserving the traditions and conservative Judaism continues to be on the decrease in America used to be higher than reform. Now it's it's been lower for some years. As I she got closer to Reform Judaism run coming closer to tradition. It's gone further left. I was raised in conservative Jewish home and Chris what that meant for me was that several times a year we would go to the high holy day services of a Hanukkah. We would like candles in the home, but we did not observe the Sabbath. We did not keep the dietary laws. I was bar mitzvahed at the age of 13, but I learned to chant a portion of Scripture in Hebrew. I didn't even know what I was saying and it didn't dawn on me to ask what the words meant and it didn't dawn on the rabbi to say with significant Michael I want you to study this in English because this is what you will be chanting in Hebrew so was much more of a religious ritual. My bar mitzvah was more of a social event than a spiritual event, so I was raised in a very wishy-washy form of Judaism that I thought was what Judaism was until I met Orthodox really ultra-Orthodox Jews, so the ultra-Orthodox would be the most traditional they would be on the right wing of orthodoxy on the left wing of orthodoxy is what's called modern Orthodox so that would be someone like Ben Shapiro probably be that the best known example of modern orthodoxy in America today. I wrote a book called 60 questions Christians ask about Jewish beliefs and practices and I cover letter that information in that book so hope that's helpful for you. It really why I tell you what that was excellent and as a Jewish person by birth, which is more than just a religion. It's also a people and then now add a Christian, you could steer spell bad.
One of the original audience members. Jesus was talking to that yes all of his first followers were Jewish and remained Jewish and the term Christian in the early church had a very different meaning than over the centuries. Another was it was not a member of a different religion.
There is no such religion as quote Christianity, but that being said, it was someone who was a follower of this this one. Chris Doss and it was probably a derogatory name like some of listen, I shall call in the Brownlee or Brown but it was it was derogatory to: quote Christian so that's why a depending on what setting herein.
If you say your Christian Jewish person with me. Oh, you're no longer Jewish, which is why we often identify as messianic Jews or as Jewish followers of Jesus, by the way, just to flesh this out a little bit more Orthodox Jews are confessing daily their belief in the coming of Messiah and and this is a central tenet of the faith that God will send the Messiah, whereas a Reform Jew is not looking for a Messiah, but for messianic age brought about by human goodness by a better error on the earth by human beings, improving themselves reform Jews would not have as part of their belief or conviction that there is life after death be looking forward to a future resurrection. Individuals may hold to that but that is not foundational among Reform Jew so that if you read it a reform to reset sees me at a ceremony of memorial service or something like that. Funeral service, it would be grieving over the dead that are lost in their gone as opposed to a strong confidence of will be together again in the world to come. We will see our love once again as you get it a Christian funeral hate. Thank you for the question. Much appreciated. 866-348-7884 is never come and remember when Roma website if you don't get our emails. I just got a really informative email from our ministry a few minutes ago did you all right ask Dr. Brown.org SKU around the sign-up emails today.
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The far you've got questions, we've got answers phone lines are wide open. 866-348-7884. If we don't have the answer will do our best to get it for you right let us go back to the phone. Starting with Amy in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Welcome to the want to fire Dr. Browning] only joy I heard studying Mark 1333 James version, which I'm not and not get all different translation Betty Jane version translated translate that and taking heat watch and pray for you know not when the time but other translations including tree of life and down and see it being translated watch. Be alert for you don't know when the time it coming so I'm I'm curious about the translation from translations removing prayer how network between King James and other translations when praying and rendered not right so you have an issue like this in the me just get up on some of the translations here it if you have just a translation issue. In other words, how do I translate this verse. It could, I could do this with this we beget the same Greek in front of you. That's one issue right and you can only tell Kate to go this way you know stay awake, be alert you don't go to sleep. You know those could all be translating the same thing right but went when you have something where it's clearly a different word that's being used then you have to ask why that that is an generally like you may have. King James mention prayer and fasting another. Other translations just mention prayer something like that. What it normally is, is that the King James translators were using one Greek text, and the other translators using another pretext these techs are almost identical. In verse after verse word afterward afterward, but there are some differences.
Some minor discrepancies here and there. So the King James would be using the text that's called the majority text, so the, the largest body of evidence would say this is how it reads and other translations would be using what considered to be the oldest and the best manuscripts even if they were in the minority, so the majority of translations today follow what I consider to be the best text in the King James.
We follow will be called the majority text and so if you're looking for example all bits to see here right you'll find the ASV, which is based on the same manuscripts taking he watch and pray you find the new King James which is following this as well.
I will have it the same way so you King James will be a take heed, watch and pray the M EV the modern English version, which is based on the same Greek manuscripts will say watch and pray all the others won't have and pray so went when you see the King James has it one way and the other 70 Different Way than you know the new King James is can agree with the King James you know that the MTV is can agree with the King James Kistler using the same Greek manuscript and the argument would be that watch and pray the words and pray were added in unconsciously by a scribe you are familiar with that or think of the garden of Gethsemane's inner watch and pray etc. and then others would say no to those the original words and they got taken out by Lee describes it was an omission but it just is two different pretext and and you have it, like a said for number of passages. Overall, the differences are super minor but there are differences of different pretext. Not far into my Bible school… Yeah the young as though rather than looking at it is a confusing negative or getting into a battle with King James only oriented notes but contains bad to say we have an abundance of evidence to sift through God is richly provided for us and again the differences are so minor we know that the call to stay alert is accompanied by a call to prayer elsewhere in Scripture and staying rather it means being vigilant in prayer.
So it's not like the one thing says there's an elephant in the room and the other thing says the elephants don't exist any that's about mutually contradicting thing contradictory things like that so it's again there's a debate among scholars.
The majority of scholars today. We, scholars, New Testament scholars, Bible translators favor the other manuscripts. The King James does not does not tradition. The debate goes on, but for me it's just a matter.
Thank God for the abundance that we have and if if you're more familiar with a particular translation.
Feel free to use it. I thank you for the call very much all right 866-348-7884 by the way, if you've tried to get through the broadcast on other days or been on hold for long periods of time on Friday. Never got non-some Fridays. We got more space got some space right now if you calling now this is a great chance to get your call before the show was over, 866-348-7884. Let's go to Jim in Chicago, Illinois. Welcome to the line of fire altering user that would be.
I always read that you when you read that Abraham maybe a little outgoing on but there are some very fine scholars but they know Abraham didn't doubt at all that I was Michael Brown that yeah I've always assumed that when when Abraham falls on his face and laughs are right sure around kids but was Connecticut. Yeah, these these these is that point doubting.
Is it just seems too incredible to have a just like you've got to be kidding me. A good example. Nancy and I were chatting about some promises that God's given me that decades ago were easier to believe, but as of 67 now a whole lot would have to happen those things to be filled in my lifetime, but I believe they will truly believe they will.
So I was telling her friend to call the other day Christian leader was gesturing with me and began to talk about what he believed. Still my head in my future things that God was going to use me in and Nancy said that when you're 90. We were just laughing about it because of what had I a sitting absolute sure things will come to pass. But then, let's just say God said to me add you will be a star in the NBA.
One of the best basketball players in history always got got you right sure that's going to happen all yeah right in my prime. I never could've gone with a million miles of the NBA ghetto, let alone be a star at the age of $67.70 or 80. So yet.
To me there is some incredulity there just to read for everyone and then, though, I'd like to hear his the reasons that some say there is no doubt so because Abraham send looking out.
Ishmael let let Ishmael be the guy I got a solution will be the guy got sick. Abraham is as for your wife Sarai, shall I call her Soraya, but her name should be Sarah. I will bless you and Vito will give you a son by her. I will bless us that you will give rise to nation so she's almost 90.
At this point is almost 100 feet long past the age of childbearing right which we we learn in Genesis 18 and common sense would tell you it will bless us that you should give rise to nations rules, the people shall issue from her Abraham threw himself on his face and laugh as he said to himself.
Can the child be born from an hundred years old. Her conservator child at 90 and Abraham said got all that Ishmael might live by your favorite dots, is nevertheless, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall name him Isaac right so the reason that some would say that there was no doubt there what's their strongest argument that you found wealthy posture when he fell down before God' worship and that he would be laughing it fell down the work that was like he was down before God and that would be' rendered submission, and therefore he could not really left to get that, but the follow-up like you just read me really clarifies the youth out of therapy or why it appeared that Abraham called Levi that I've looked really good. Yeah, again, and especially because afterwards he said, so look it's both and irrelevancies, reverent. This is God speaking to him so falls on his face, but the followingis because these these got a lap it's like oh okay this is crazy.
I'm falling my face to honor you is God in worship. He was God. But come on, let this but let the Ishmael I got a son, let it be. This is crisis. It can happen. So, of course, eats caulk means that he laughs or he will laugh and you have that the laughing comes up quite a few times in the narrative. It's very very interesting in and Ishmael is guilty of Midsouth cake, which is the same word he's mocking, so it's just this Wisconsin planet suck talk route from from laughter to mocking the incredulity but yet since good is a great man of faith doesn't mean that a certain thing God says like, hot Lord, I'm not a believer but this is a little extreme. And that's part of relationship part of relationship is an ethic if you write back to make it light out to greet pastors your Hebrew guy we need take the legs out from under the sheep and throws them down right or does it need that little but it's there they go willingly that that that that is nothing yes so so of the reluctance of the note this ER, but Sandy so it's it's he causes me to lie down that the Hima was called to fill.
So that's causative. So, it's just that that's what he does for us.
We are his flock and he guides us and gets us there right so as a sheep we are not rebelling against them. He doesn't have to knock our feet out from under us sore club was over the head is worse shape. So he just thought he that's where he brings us he doesn't yet a thank you for the call right 866-34-TRUTH, I tell you what I just got little over 30 seconds before the break, so I will come back on the other side started with Lewis in Las Vegas will get to whatever calls we can before the show is over it'll. I have been sleeping better recently, but I've been using Dr. Stabler's sleep supplements this to help you go to sleep at night and the melatonin some other things but the special concoction is, is the put things together really well and and and benefiting by it. So what you benefit to go to the vitamin mission.com with the sponsor Dr. Stanley check out all the great health supplements. They have their again you get a 10% discount when you go there and Dr. Stabler, Prince Rhonda makes a generous donation for ministry so check it out for yourself. Vitamin mission.com are one and only radio sponsor more single doctor of the decade be like that.
Past we go straight to phones with Lewis in Las Vegas. Welcome to the line of fire.
If there are you doing very well thank you I weeks ago I was there at the conference. Wonderful yeah great time great time their dreams in my question because I want to be rude to the other people on old so I was a pretrip guy grew up in the Calgary movement think the early 90s, taught classes over Calgary here in Las Vegas on pretrip over the years, now walking debate like you know online with different people and and I just got your book I've been reading through it, I can pretty much answer a lot of questions, but to the questions I struggle with the first one is that Luke 21 package. The argument from the pretrip position is why would Jesus tell you to pray that you could escape all those things if you didn't think that you could escape all left the first questions, let me hear your answer automatically.
Yes, salute 2136 were Jesus is pray that you can escape all these things that are coming up the destruction of which he speaks so you can escape many many different ways. For example the end of Isaiah 26 is the sum of the wrath of God being poured out on the earth. It Cisco hide yourself in the inner chamber until the wrath passes by.
We know that in Revelation 310 with is a promise to the church of Philadelphia about being kept from the hour of testing that's coming on the whole earth that sink reconstruction verb preposition only occurs one of the time in the New Testament and that's Luke 1715, were Jesus prays for his disciples. This is God I don't pray that you take them out of the world that you keep them from the evil one so you can escape from right by having a place of hiding a place of refuge as well as by being rescued out of their many different ways you go to a bomb shelter and escape the their fall out of a bomb or you can be evacuated so any number of ways, and we have rest of the Scripture saying that the tribulation is part of what we should expect in this world and that God will give us grace to endure it, then then this would lead to the others. It's interesting is that that the language that's use their right of the chip got ESPN friendly, stay awake at all times praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place and to stand before the summits of what we need strength to be rafted out right right so it's it's almost contradicted by that language so strength to endure strength to to have a place of refuge and you could, there could be places just like when God poured out his his judgments on Egypt that the Israelites were safe and that was side-by-side that that lot in his and his daughters were not taken out of the earth, but just went to a nearby place that even with the flood, Noah was not taken out of the earth was Justin able to rise above the flood because he had an arc so any number of ways to escape okay.
And how would you answer when they say yes, we agree with the Isaiah passage, but God was speaking directly that he would state that you people because it's being quoted to the Jewish people in the Old Testament that doesn't refer to the church to use people that he will protect them. I believe in Petra lofts or whatever and so so that I will and when I would do this is read through Matthew 24, Luke 21 or Mark 13 with them and say okay when did things change here and in other.
In other words, who's he speaking to he speaking to disciples the whole way through which you have to make now two separate groups, those that are here and those that aren't here those that endure to the end will be saved and others will be taken out with talking to you you you you the whole time to God's people in the midst of it. So he's not making a distinction and in the promise or he's he's not saying all now the Jewish believers here you take it out but if you're a Jew that comes to faith after no then you get preserved in their there is no separation and if you just read Matthew 24 was someone right and that obviously there's the parallel what repeats itself at the end of the age.
Just ask Wicca who is you who is he to immediately after the tribulation of those days when the when the sign of the Son of Man comes in. You look up and use it whose you whose you what you know you the person who is alive for generation Y during the time when all the records it was that of a the promise it doesn't work. In other words, as the thing recapitulates at the end of the age find that there but you have to be steady with you the whole way through it. It is always speaking to believers that that are here during these times is never talking about one group gets taken out and out so I'm talking to you Lewis because I'm talking to you Lewis Palmetto.
The two different Lewises. So if you just will go through that exercise reading through any of the passages of the olive at this course.
So Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 and will return them to see speaking to the same people throughout again. You can say there's a time gap from first century to the end of the age. In other like mirror images and things like that but you can't make it to different classes of people. That's one of the things that I struggle with what I believe in pretrip when a friend asked me about it when I was saved a couple years I thought that's because he was confused reading it with a different user like well I guess I don't know as much as I thought I got all the preacher books but just reading the Bible. I never would've seen it, so that's your answer best as I had okay are you coming back, promising anything to get out and bring it to where he is what you say to that when people ask you that they will. Why would he come in immediately land when he promised he would receive us and bring them to where he yet right well so so you so much on 14 is the other passage of course we deal with them politically right right at this time of the second coming and suck on them coming to to dwell with us here when he says in his father's house are many rooms that Greek word for room only occurs one of the time in the entire New Testament and that is later in John 14 races. My father and I will come and make our abode with you that will make a rooms with the that's was talking about a great all right – I'm sure thing you bet.
All right let us go over to Beth in ozone Park, New York. Welcome to the line of fire rated underground very quick question. I may out one at achievement. After reading done in the Holy Spirit could buy it guided everywhere you couldn't make it Holy Spirit, Jesus would stay in and the Holy Spirit would would be here at the same time right yeah so the reason would be that his mission on the earth was very specific, God being here in our midst was a very specific mission in visible form.
It was it was to teach the ways of the kingdom it was to raise up his his followers then than the primary mission to die for our sins and rise from the dead with that.
Can with that camp completed.
Now, with him leaving the earth.
Now the work is carried out through his followers all around the world. If he stays here aside from other issues that everyone would still be going to Jesus they'd still be going to him and in the message would still be localized by him leaving. Now he's finished his mission though the Holy Spirit works through the disciples. So in his absence. The Holy Spirit is declaring to the world. Jesus is risen through the same works through these regular ordinary people. Now this is happening all over the world. If Jesus was here likely the crowds are still coming up in their there other reasons, but that would be a simple one in terms of why couldn't he stay plus the Holy Spirit. It's it's not like the way some people would teachers that he had to leave because he was the Holy Spirit. So is, great. Take off the one hat and a put on the other Hatton's change uniforms, though not all, whether there was a functional purpose that can completed now, the Holy Spirit everywhere all over the earth at the same time working through his disciples as he is right now that that gives the work a global presence and makes it clear that he is risen because is doing this through us excellent, thank you. My other question followed around nine or so medical about this recently, the fallen angels that mixed with mankind and apparently had offspring. What about like that believe that if you follow that theory then there is mass destruction of that offspring with the flood, but that some continued after the flood, and those are referenced as the ref I team with the Anna came, and these are the ones that Israel destroyed the argument would be. That's why Israel wipe them out because they were descendents of this mix breed. So if you hold to that theory. You say that most were wiped out with the flood. Those that that were born after the flood through the similar act, continuing then they were wiped out by the Israelites and they are no more. If you want to get weird. Then you say that there still around today. But that's obviously not of you that I entertain, I think it black question. I believe that the rapture occur before or after the tribulation, and rightly so.
The tribulation yes is exactly so that at the end of the tribulation. As it says in several passages or after the rebellion after the Antichrist is revealed in second Thessalonians 2 that the Messiah appears Jesus appears for the whole world to see. We are then caught up to meet him glorified bodies resurrected bodies caught up to meet him and together so so we grieve him welcome ensues as he returns, and together we now descend to the earth where he destroys the wicked and establishes his kingdom on the earth, and for a full statement of that, the book that was just referenced Craig Keener and I wrote not afraid of the antichrist. Why we don't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture will divide over it many fine Christians differ on this living readiness to meet the Lord anytime because no one has a guarantee of tomorrow. But yes we expect is public return. We are caught up together to meet him at the end of the tribulation. And he gives us grace to endure during that time and protects us from his wrath.
A Sabbath question I can get to, but we got a lot on the website.
If you ask Dr. Brown.org search for Sabbath to get a lot of info.
There is a blessing of the Lord be yours this week.
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