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Did Matthew Create a Verse Out of Whole Cloth?

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Did Matthew Create a Verse Out of Whole Cloth?

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network, so did Matthew create a verse out of whole cloth to treat his readers for the light a fire with your host scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for more spiritual clarity reports route to get on the line of fire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown.

Thanks so much for absolutely delighted to be with you. We are audio only, again, probably one more day doing this feeling great got over covert by God's grace very very quickly from start to finish. Really, basically a week and very minor at that.

I've had colds in years past that were much worse than this, but this is quarantine regulations. Things like this to stand back little bit longer and then back out to normal schedule doubling over the weekend, but shows here. We are glad to be with you unaffected for those listening on radio podcast for those watching on YouTube or Facebook. Just imagine the smiling face and the mustache right 866-3487 84 it's the leaders Thursday so any Jewish related question of any kind. So to be messianic prophecy could be Jewish tradition to be Hebrew language you to be Israel today. It's related to Israel, the Jewish people Jewish related give us a call 866-34-TRUTH and I'll get to as many calls over the shows I can. The earlier you call in, the better chance I have of getting to your call before we open up the Scriptures in the Gospel of Matthew and ask the question did Matthew create a verse out of whole cloth, which many counter missionaries would claim is the case we look at that.

This will remind you that now is a great time to register for our trip to Israel next year note after we had to postpone, postpone, postpone the finally cancel the last trip because of coded.

I thought you know I'm I'm kind of done with this redundant number of chores they been wonderful. I've thoroughly enjoyed them. The people on the tours have been deeply wonderfully impacted all running to folks as I'm out preaching the safe was a maturity three years ago there still glowing about it. They're still talking about itself is not that his neighbor because the land of Israel because that the tour the quality of it, but I thought you know I got Israel just I just minister there and concentrate and that I think I'm done with stores that when I happened to mention that in Nancy or you shouldn't tell me that moment.

But in her view, that was stupid that's that's what she told me. Subsequently, she thought it was stupid what I said it, but as I thought of that time will my colleague Dr. Mark Stegner sponsors of the only a business sponsor of of our of our of our ministry here in terms of being on radio sponsoring us things like that a Dr. Styler text me when I said hey are you doing any tourist Israel. Let's talk is my family wants to go. He's been to Israel before, but one of the go on. I thought yeah you know I think I should do this again. So they got the desire again and then out of the blue are probably three or four different people quite out of the blue as some remarkably out of the blue, even stranger that recognized the juju tourist Israel was your next-door so were really excited about this, but because we have a limited number of people that we take. There are some really big ministries and ill bring hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people and that's how they do it integrate tour but it's it's different than how will do it. Some take 10 or 12 will take between 1500 and that's it. So we have certain limitations. If we get slightly over 50 become a close. Is there if it's more than will take a second bustle. Let us know if you going ask Dr. Brown.org. If you have questions about details is a contacting father Esther to Brown.org you find it right on the homepage.

Okay, so in Matthew the second chapter.

It talks about Joseph taking his family to Egypt because of the threat of Herod wanted to kill all the baby boys that were born in Bethlehem and then coming back from Egypt. When Herod's dead.

He receives further warning in and concern. So, having been warned in a dream he withdrew to the district of Galilee. And he went so Joseph went and lived in a town called Asmus this is Joseph with his wife, Miriam Mary and Joshua child when he and he went and lived in a town called Nazareth.

So was fulfilled what was said through the prophets that he would be called a Nazarene. Now I just read it as translated in the NIV, so was fulfilled what was said through the prophets that he would be called a Nazarene. However, if if I look in all, let's just say a couple of other English translations say the new King James that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, quotes he shall be called a Nazarene's quote right, NASB quotes, he shall be called a Nazarene so NLT he quotes he will be called a Nazarene and RSV quotes he will be called a Nazarene so that we give you the impression that there is a specific quote being used. The problem is there is no such specific quote in the Old Testament that is like counter missionaries to say. Matthew just made it up big when he didn't have something that suited his narrative. He made it up now.

Logic would tell you there are some major issues with that. That claim of counter missionaries just logic before we show that Smith but logic would raise questions about first. What would be the point in manufacturing something that either everyone would know immediately because they have a lot of the Scripture memorized or at least the educated would know immediately was being manufactured would be the use of that.

How would that help your cause.

It's one thing it in a in a live debate. If you're trying to shoot someone down, and you use most of the others. Not accurate, and afterwards people find out at least at that moment you say face. Okay, it's still a bad strategy, it's still self-defeating. But think about Matthew did immediately as Jesus began teaching. Certainly his teachings were being circulated orally was an oral culture right so you had things in writing, but mainly things were taught orally. So immediately, or passing on his teachings your passing on the accounts of the miracles word-of-mouth and all of that right so the oral traditions developed their being passed out over a number of years then Matthew over period of several decades compiles what we have is the gospel of Matthew either writing it shortly before that the temple was destroyed or shortly after the temple was destroyed near seven so this is several decades. 4050 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus that is outputting all this out in writing. Okay, so he takes all this time to do it. Don't demolish it in a few hours that if it just Simone begins to circulates like weight.

That's that's on in the Bible is on the tightness on the Hebrew Bible.

That's not the Scriptures. He made it up so the idea spent all this time and make up a verse eight muzzle made up versus all over the place. Okay, so people so we took him out of context. All this a whole of the subject and we discussed it many times in happy to discuss it again. If you have any questions, but the logic of it really really doesn't work. Why spend so much time right then manufacturers the doesn't exist. So all your work goes up in smoke but Charlie if you put it up and not only that what he needed.

What you get enough of the stuff fulfilled in the miracle of who Jesus was the miracles that he performed in his death and his resurrection and ascension is setting the spirit that speaks for itself. You don't need to add this in so why does Matthew quoted.

What is he actually saying all very very simple notice that only here and of all of the times that it speaks of fulfilling something that was spoken or something that was written. This is the only time that it says through the prophets plural, not through the prophet said by Isaiah was said by Jeremiah Nono. This is the prophets plural. So Matthew is not quoting from one particular verse. That's the first thing check it out.

Check out the word for Philip LaRocco in Greek and go through every single reference in Matthew you'll find this is the only one where he says is misspoken or written by, and now it's prophets plural. That's the first thing it could be a theme.

It could be a theme of the Messiah's loneliness of his being rejected because Nazareth was a nowhere place all yeah the Messiah is going to come from Nazareth. Sure, as it is written of the Messiah will come from Hoboken, New Jersey, putting Hoboken down but I'm saying it's not like all the other major city in America.

That's play that's a place where it's gonna happen. Yeah, and as it is written, he shall come from Kalamazoo all respects Kalamazoo at the government go there later this year, but it's Nazareth was a backwoods. Nowhere place right and to say on from where you're from I'm from Jerusalem read from I'm from Rome, where you from Nazareth. That's kind of the way it was. So it could just be a generalization, Messiah, lowly Messiah rejected.

But there's more to it. As scholars widely recognized that Matthew in this portion of Scripture has been forming in in Matthew one through four. He makes explicit reference to Isaiah 714, the prophecy about a manual supernaturally born. He makes explicit reference to the beginning of the ninth chapter of Isaiah 9 about the people living in darkness have seen a great light which leads to the great messianic prophecy. Later in the chapter about the summits born to us in this endless reign of peace and righteousness and fear is clearly making reference to Matt to Isaiah 11 one.

So I Matthew seen this whole messianic section, Isaiah 7, nine, 11, all in one. He's recognizing the importance of it and here he's making reference to the fact that the Messiah, the route that comes up from Jesse is called the necessary just a branch just to shoot also speak. It was loaded, so it's a play on words of not Sarah. It's a play on words Nazareth not serrated nets there branch and the Messiah is elsewhere called the branch that some off, which also speaks of his lowliness and his natural weakness so all of these images here come together for for Matthew, the size, lowliness the Messiah being rejected the Messiah being called nets there and he went lived in the city called Nazareth not Sarah so that what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled that he would be called a Nazarene and by the way in terms of rabbinic literature and Jewish interpretation plays like this very, you have it in the Old Testament, which is not the actual etymology, but a play on words like you'll name the city of L which we know comes from Babylonian Bob either the gate of the gods you'll name the city barbell because God will ball all confused the languages and tongues, or Jacob will be called Jaco, which probably goes back to up to submit a tax.

Hence, God will protect and instead he's given the name Jacob because his grabbed a cavity.

He'll know though because he causes the deceiver. So this is perfectly normal, biblical, a rich treasure that Matthews given us rather than manufacturing verse we come back in the Scripture falls to the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown, the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown welcome that the early Jewish Bob on the dealer come with us, rejoice and be glad you got a Jewish related question for me. 866-34-TRUTH hate a special shout out to all of my Jewish listeners who do not believe in Yeshua who believe that I'm wrong or misguided in my beliefs but who listen regularly either to critique, which is wonderful. I'm glad to hear, or because you enjoy other aspects of the broadcast, or you just like to listen to different perspectives or just like to get stirred up. Either way I'm glad that you hear.

I do see some your posts on YouTube.

I am sure there many comments that I miss but glad to hear glad you get to way and and if you're ever able to call in inferior differences or erasure questions, or maybe just don't take take one issue up with me. Great. Let's do it 866-348-7884 with that we go to the phones will start with Brandon in Texas. Welcome to the line of fire. I hello my question clearly yes loud and clear that my question about your and the print what the Jewish understanding of the print the one they think is going to be Messiah that are resurrected David as I heard others before and it is the Messiah. What does that mean for a Christian to the note you not being similar in the print offering offering for himself and people and also he had done that that you give part of it in error or the report right so there is there is not one Jewish understanding only if of text, but generally speaking as you go 40s to 48 in traditional Jewish thought is looked at as messianic that that one of the things that the Messiah will do will be to build the temple. That's how the Jewish people recognize that he's the Messiah help regather the exiles who fight the wars of the Lord will speak prophetically. He'll rebuild the temple, and this will be the proof that that he is the Messiah and while there are some Jewish traditions that would see the Messiah as the as David race from the dead that so that's a rarer viewpoint.

He's call if he is called David it would be that the same spark of the Messiah were sole of the Messiah that was in. David is now in in the Messiah himself, but he will be a distinct person and in in Jewish teaching.

He will be a mortal. So he will be greatly gifted and greatly anointed, but he will be a mortal and a mortal a supposed immortal, so he will be a human being just like us in and in that sense, there's no reason why he wouldn't be married and have children and things like that so that would be a very different picture. My view is that the prince in Ezekiel 40 through 48. If this is literally fulfilled in the millennial kingdom that the the prince that's mentioned there will be a Davidic leader over the nation but not the Messiah who will be ruling and reigning of Jerusalem and the fact that it does associate the prince with with sin on any level would indicate that it cannot be Jesus the Messiah. So it this would simply underscore that there are two distinct views of the Messiah. Those of us who see Jesus as the Messiah and traditional Jews who do not, that we would see him as is divine is the word made flesh, and traditional Jews would not see the Messiah that way again. He's a highly exalted person, but he is nonetheless a a fully human being. According to Jewish tradition, and therefore the prince will commonly be seen as the Messiah in Jewish interpretation okay thank you very much for your very welcome in the larger questions of course Brandon of how we sort this out. Will there be a future temple a will there be sacrifices in the future. I was at work out the crosses are whole set of other questions which of course are important as well, but I'm just answering your more specific one here 866-34-TRUTH by the way, I do want to share a little bit about Israeli elections and what's coming next in the land.

So what will come to that during the broadcast as well. All right. Let us go over to Jonathan and how Indiana welcome to the line of fire for very dark, love the show did a andante I'll take those. Thank you so much I appreciated my question about Jewish father of now I am Doric but I've heard that the reuniting that you did around the world arrive, no matter the clerk and barfing burnout from them by their father's brother childhood and father bury myself a four-year-old Imperial bond unborn child.

Here on February 1 of the typical black thing that George Pete over their children enter the profitable practice.

Then file or not you believe it myself yet. So that's a very interesting perspectives in terms of the reasons for the the blessing the prosperity the success educational acumen what whatever areas of achievement, there been the Jewish community. Let me first say the Siri is certainly possible. Right, but I would just say the psychology behind it also makes very good sense. But, by which I mean that if you are speaking positive things over your children and bringing them in an environment where God is central that's going to be massive in general just just those elements and then having father is centrally involved in the education of his children is going to be massive but more broadly on on the Sabbath right so when you're sitting down for Sabbath dinner. You are the, the husband will speak the virtuous wife virtuous woman passage from Proverbs the 31st chapter will speak that over his wife over the Sabbath or there are verses in the Psalms. See Psalm 127 Psalm 128 that talk about the blessing that sons are the blessings that children are so passages like that are regularly recited and then is a foundational element in Judaism when you're saying the Shema every day. So the the confession of of God being one. You are then reading on the verses that follow, which which urged the fathers to diligently impress these things on their children and to speak about them so there is in the religious Jewish homes. This constant speaking about the word of God and obviously it in the light of Jewish tradition.

That's the way Jewish family would do it. Fathers educating their children, especially sons using Scripture and speaking them over family yet. There is something very rich and powerful about that.

And certainly what will have a positive impact on the joke level. I think it was Tony Campolo many years ago as an Italian was was joking and saying illegally Italian home, and yet you ask the parents say, although she could yeah that's Tony's a good for nothing and add stats. Jean always always lazy and many of the Jewish element yeah that's my son, David. He's going to be a doctor yeah and that's that's his brother Jacob was going to be a neurosurgeon in Oso. So again that's on the, the stereotype joke level, but those types of things do make a positive difference and by all means we as followers of Jesus should be using all of the word and taking the promises that God's given us in Scripture and repeating those reciting those reminding the Lord about them speaking them over our families, speaking them over ourselves, absolutely. It should be done and what you might do is just go through a a a Jewish prayer book and a copy of his suit door SI DD you are just read through it you get it Hebrew and English and you'll see the various prayers that are prayed in the various things that are recited so a lot of Scripture is incorporated into Jewish liturgy and then traditional Jews have a system of doing things.

It's not like spontaneous prayer is the main aspect of prayer in a traditional Jewish that at this time of the day you say this and you repeat these words so that's how it gets built into the system. If that makes sense to you, and certainly many Christians do this as well, not of the same systematic way but they take promises that God's given or things that God says like I mentioned Psalm 27 Psalm 128 and things like that or or maybe a couple is unable to have children. The wife can conceive, so you read verses from Psalm 113 about God taking the barren woman establishing in the home that the mother of children and and you say Lord to promises. I believe your word you speak those things out so it renews how you see things renounce how it renews how the changes how others see themselves in the in the midst of it. Of course you bring the necessary correction and deal with reality as it is a thank you for the call and the question very much appreciated. 8663 4-H 7884. Remember, you can preorder assigned numbered copy of the political seduction of the church are wrote it to help.

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I believe you see things so much more clearly and realize this is how we get it done. This is how involved. This is how we make a difference is that we got off track here so we stay on track seeking order that on the website ask Dr. Brown.org will be right back in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown shalom Sabbath of peace friends. Don't forget that we've got a whole website just devoted to Jewish seekers and those wanting to grow in their understanding of Jesus being the Messiah of Israel. It's real Messiah.com real Messiah.com you talking to Jewish friend about Yeshua are some just meet and weld you still believe in Jesus Abbott I heard this above Jesus was really Messiah comes that peace on earth know you Christians believe in three gods. We believe it only New Testament they just missed the authors is misquoted things about Jesus all that they now it's not true. The same check out real Messiah.com.

You can watch debates I've had with rabbis rabbinic scholars Orthodox rabbis others. You can watch those debates for free on the site. Yeah, you could you could watch videos that we put together specifically to demolish some of the miss information from from some counter missionaries and I deal with Congressman rabbis in a regular basis and and have great respect for for a number of them that we've interacted with and and we gone back and forth in endless dialogue and written dialogue and things like that.

There are others with more widespread information online. The just the the miss information needs to be exposed and demolished. So we got a whole series of videos we continue to put out more of those available are sinking through TV series for two years.

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That's the minimum threshold so you got all these different players that that means that no one group is going to have the 61 seats needed to form a majority government. That's the way it works there right so you make a coalition.

I've got 35 seats, you've got 10 you've got for you and you you piece it together. Well we will enjoy militia given on this. Now that's a dealbreaker now okay will bend a little here and now if you take them and we leave so because very dicey. I you got your 35 seat majority. But you can't form a coalition to get you over the 60 1C threshold that's going in ex parte okay you got 30. Can you put some together new trident. So what happened was this very tenuous coalition with you your Lapine and Naftali Bennett there parties came together, and remarkably put something together and it barely had the threshold and then very quickly. It went from 62 to 61. One of the Knesset members resign from the coalition withdrew, then another, did those were worse going back for siding with the Sutherland and now finally another so they don't have a majority in more than on even have 6060 so there will be elections held could be November could be earlier of list is always November, but I just saw Paul now that indicated that Netanyahu far away would be the biggest vote-getter as the leader of the coup that he would be the single best that he would best get your Lapine of course Prescott top left of the Bennett would best pentagons. He would best all of them and according to this, that he would be able to put together a coalition of 62 that not having Netanyahu in power. He's ready let Israel for 12 years. They call a malice icon King is the longest running prime minister in Israel's history you don't have the term limit issue the same as you have in America.

On the one hand he's a strong leader. He's very strong international he strong security. There are other things that are excellent for this are the charges of corruption against and displayed? Next to those in order to form his coalition. He will then reach out to the religious right. The problem with that is that makes it a lot worse for messianic Jews in the land there their crackdowns in different ways and restrictions of Jewish citizenship and things like that and and other things of the general population that can be a bit oppressive so there's a mix it's not a simple oh this is a good one. This is the bad one so continue to pray for God's will for God's best right let us go to Tom in Millbrook, Ohio.

Welcome to the line of fire, background, or you wondered about for some time. The story of the hearing of the veil in the temple at the point of completing it brings a dramatic picture of mine and my question is during this very busy time of year that the Passover feast week coming up would have been happening in the temple at the time that that took place by leader were many witnesses that the preparation for certain things taking place or what would've been going up right it's it's a great question and specifically you have to realize when it's things talking about that the tearing of the veil right so this is this is the. The innermost veil of the temple right you don't have any account outside the Gospels.

You do have an account about that gates of the temple not closing in rabbinic literature and then another leader has to rebuke them and then they closing and some of associated that that say that's the rabbinic memory of what happened of the gates not not closing a being jarred open so that would be the only apparent parallel alloys. What we have is recorded in in the Gospels themselves and those to be the closest contemporary witnesses outside of Josephus, but you didn't have the high priest, bringing in incense like on the day of atonement or or excuse me for bringing in the blood to the most holy place at that time.

This would this be another time in years I was during the past during the Passover. You would not of had people going in to that veil of the high priest would not of gone into that time. So the amount of witnesses would would be fairly limited.

It was not it a busy place where were you had people going going in and out so how do we know what happened.

Number one the witness of the New Testament.

You still have a how do we know where they got information, but we don't and in other words, it could have been by revelation that God's told him that this is what happened or could have been that there were witnesses to it that recounted it, but you have to remember, we don't have a lot of sources. The only only rough contemporary source we have is Josephus writing.

Decades later, in writing, in a way that's trying to make things look more favorable to Rome is just this is one person. The closest eyewitness accounts that you have or the New Testament writers who were there when these things were happening so the only only other thing I can say it and you don't have cell phones and 11 units. So the idea that you have a lot of accounts we just the accounts we have from the spear timer from the New Testament authors and then from Josephus whose writing many, many years later, but the ones of the eyewitnesses, those of the New Testament writers so that's are our best source of information. It's very different than today sir when when if something happened somewhere you have all kinds of cell phone reports and people texting about is a totally different when, but I would say this, the idea that they would make a claim like this that everyone could say never happened is highly unlikely. That's the flip side of it to make such a claim when you had the as New Testament documents are being first distributed orally so before the written documents there. The traditions are being distributed orally and people repeating them so this is a kind of things can get shot down very quickly or confirm very quickly.

The fact that it's it's a plane we were recounted in the Gospels. Historically gives you strong evidence to believe that actually happened. Of course we accepted the town account of Scripture, but even from a non-leaving viewpoint you say you're not just to create something like this that many could say never happened okay like the activity in the holy place not in the most you want to hear about Dr. dramatic audible thing curtain. I understand oriented place. You would think would attract some attention. Oh yeah and and again. So every day you had certain things going on and and there is interaction in the holy place eat you.

You have witnesses either as it's happening, or shortly after it happens I you know that the the exact time of day that it's taking place. Was there something not not off the top of my head.

I said okay this time, the sacrifices being offered in there for that moment so-and-so would've seen thus in such know you can't can't place it on that level. But again, the fact that you have a rabbinic account gets its later when I said rabbinic counsel on eyewitness it's because they're written centuries and centuries later but the fact you have that account about the temple gates not the temple doors not closing that's that's significant that that could be a like memory. Thank you for the call right let us go to Alayna. I cannot not sure I truth studio. If you could put Alayna on in Alexandria, Virginia. Welcome to the line of fire. Lori seems to be gone. Let's all right say what Discover reconnect something here that just dropped out on my terminal as we are doing this remotely and here we are.

We are back that quickly okay we go to Jay in Boise, Idaho. Welcome to the line of fire. Chemical, you bet.

So my question is in regards to usage of the word in Genesis or on so in Genesis 1, 100, but he but are looking at Hashemi unit like a direct object marker. This is being created. I tell her I'm sorry I on the computer. Call on the other side so that that is the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown and his friends on thoroughly. Brown delighted to be with you 866-34-TRUTH all right J in Boise, Idaho. Sorry for the interruption back to your question about the direct object marker at in August. Genesis 4 with the birth of cane go ahead so she really like for example in Genesis 1. No, the better he but all that you create right and at Hashemi.

You mean the habit at like thing the arrow pointing to heaven was just administered just as I can.

Arrow points just the direct object marker that will have exceptions in poetry, but before proper name or direct object. So with definite article XM I am heaven or earth} you Berlin. It's my avatar it's right so just direct object marker and all it that's that's the primary usage.

It can also it's also preposition meeting with is the other usage of it in Heber so I recently walked a video from Anthony Rogers and I would be learning Hebrew, I felt, but you'll verify what will thing you were talking about how you know that, coupled with the earlier nature of your desire shall be your man and you shall rule over you.

Check that you thought or one was actually thinking. I have acquired a man at the Lord, meaning the Lord meeting that you maybe thought that there was a possibility she was giving birth were defined by add to questions related that the first wanted is that viable and effective one is if that is viable, then, is that you get there any application that could be made there to the back of cane was not in backboard right know this is not viable at all. It would be utterly bizarre that Eve would be thinking about it at the very foundation of of the human race here would be thinking by giving birth to a divine Messiah as opposed to simply giving birth to a male child. Some who would grow up to be in each man and if so when those Hebrew fluently enough. Then they'll know that it simply means.

With that the preposition at to this day I could send Heber ET with me or oversaw you directly, or each call with you so yes so at other not so can you teach at the other night means I have acquired a man with the help of Yahweh. So with Yahweh.

And that's how the, the, the ancient versions understood. For example, looking at the, the Aramaic can lead to government, the other night so I've received required a man, a male from before the Lord of the Septuagint, so she acquires an answer upon a man Dia to so dear to so self bite by means of God, yes.

So at their just simply means with nothing more to it and to read more into it is is really projecting things back very much and bite by the real yet limited to save us less than when in English we constantly recognize the difference in in the meaning of words if if I said the I went to the bank at the bank of the river uses bank two different ways. Will we.

We fully understand and you know, if we say the tow truck ran over my toe. Well, it's two different toast 02 different ways and we we get that immediately.

There's no mystery there so someone reading this immediately would know what's what's being said it would be a mystery after I've acquired a man of of got the man with the help of the Lord. So if I could have a brief follow on that I create.

By the regulated suspected it might be reading a little too much into it.

I'm not doing, only a beginner you always good to Dr. Gordon, is there any there anything to be read into the fact that the word you wrote in your husband was directly man shall rule over you, and all five acquired a man from the Lord are effectively just referencing the fact that there male just decided to mail the Hebrew East can mean husband or or man just like this is the same with with Greek the word for woman and for for man can be also used for husband or wife, so nothing nothing more should be read into that and just you know she's referring to it being a mail truck she could just city yell at which would be a boy but saying ESA's release making clear. It is a male II got a man here with the help of the Lord.

So the video you mention is not the first one to try to read this into the text but it's absent clearly not what it's saying and and there is no indication that this was a known seem right from Eden that there would be a divine Messiah burst to to the human race. These are things that revealed overtime pay. Thank you for the call. Keep keep studying, keep learning, I led us go to David in Michigan. Welcome to the line of fire.

I will be very brave and I bent a gang prevention grill and understand all of that lab. I understand that the events of the first all.

I understand that when the return was that patient is I get back to the first bullet was of great importance and I would say that certain things were were overstated in your evaluation. They did rebuild the temple in the same dimensions as the as Solomon's Temple had to be. That was the only option was to build according to that following the. The descriptions of the tabernacle and it did not have the same glory at the outset that the first temple did. So there was disappointment with that of the wasn't the divine fire and presence there, and things like that.

When Ezekiel has the vision of it leaving it's leaving the first temple in Ezekiel the 10th chapter. That being said, there were prophecies that the glory of that temple would be greater than the glory of the first temple and that that God would appoint to shalom his keister so that was the place to which the Messiah came, that was the place where the Holy Spirit was poured out after his resurrection and that was also the place on the physical level that was massively beautified in a large complex by Harriet selected receive both natural beauty as well as the presence of God and was great and massive importance to the world Jewish population, hence its destruction never to be rebuilt. Until now, remains highly significant and is been part of the prayers of the Jewish people from his 2000 years now that the temple would be rebuilt so it was, even though we have the ark of the covenant even though it didn't have many of these other elements and from later rabbinic tradition to just mention their being are our rock. There. That was in the holiest place in the water, the blood would be poured out on the rock in the sill so things were clearly missing.

There was something obviously not there. On the other hand, on the other hand, for short there.

There were some very, very important elements to it in the temple itself represented God's God's dwelling place for the nations was massively important yeah I remember having your reading. Another example to me on the map that I you are hundred percent accurate, which creates problems for rabbinic choose to say that a future temple must be built exactly according to the same specifications as the original to tabernacle/temple so there is rabbinic tradition that one rabbi spent endless nights, so just burn the midnight oil was literally in just went through all the soil try to reconcile Ezekiel's Temple with the tour requirements and he figured it all out, but we lost what he figured out so that it remains an issue.

That's why some would say well it's going to be something totally new and different, and it doesn't have to go to Torah specifications because revenue age wasn't say that indicates that it's just symbolic in its nature is not something physically built, but something spiritual about for sure that the picture that you get a for sure. David is is that when Ezekiel show you supposed to show it to the exiles and they were supposed to see it and be ashamed and rose while we should have a temple built in the day actually mentions Ezekiel participating in as if this would happen with the return from exile, but didn't.

So there were promises that were yet to be for Phil. Hence, the pointing to Messiah visiting the second Temple hi David, thank you very much for the call yesterday and going going back to the previous call ties in with this about the destruction of the second Temple. There are rabbinic traditions that for 40 years before the temple was destroyed near 70 at the doors of the temple would swing open and had to be rebuked to be closed when tradition would indicate this happen repeatedly again was that God shouting out to the nation atonement has been made atonement is made because Messiah depending on exactly need date, the crucifixion, resurrection, Messiah dies for sins roughly 40 years before the destruction of the temple. I do believe that there are tumbler conditions that God's sovereignty is planted here to say hey that is done I've come up with new and better way. He's getting attention of the nation. Hey back with you tomorrow.

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