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Was Charles Spurgeon a Christian Zionist?

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Was Charles Spurgeon a Christian Zionist?

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Was Charles Spurgeon, Christian Zionist stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by going 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH your again is Dr. Michael Brown, a friends, this is Michael Brown.

Welcome to a very special edition of the line of fire broadcast will be taking your calls today, but when into the Scriptures together right and then look at some quotes from notable Christian leaders like Charles Spurgeon and JC Ryle prominent Christian leaders in the 1800s. See what they had to say about the restoration of the Jewish people to the land of Israel not I want to be completely candid with you.

When I came to faith in 1971 the church I came to faith believe that God brought the Jewish people back to the land that was protect them and also believe the Jewish people needed Jesus to be safe so there was an over glorifying or over sentimental lysing of anything believe that God chosen the Jewish people that Jewish people without Jesus were away from God and needed to be saved but that God in his wisdom and prominence in keeping his word. It brought the Jewish people back to the land and then I was in circles. After that I myself question to be look at prophecy like that.

The day the ancient prophecies come to pass.

Literally, of the Bible talks about Moab in the Old Testament, we have to figure out who is Moab the day.

How does that work. I questioned a lot of it, but ultimately saw clearly for me, clearly in Scripture that God promised to bring the Jewish people back to the land in unbelief and that he was doing that very thing in our day and it was only when I was traveling overseas. I remember being in England in the mid-1990s, and I was referencing Israel and people like these Christian scientists there like noted that they're bad there off their weird will is different. England and America because in America it is so much evangelical support for Israel and and anyway, over the years. Of course I've interacted with many who differ with my position. Many would agree with my position, but interestingly as I've gone to India 26 times as as I've gone to Korea, 13, 14 time as I've gone to other countries around the world.

Japan and China and Africa, the continent of Africa. Just a couple times there in Mexico and about 200 trips outside the United States. I have met with extraordinary love for Israel extraordinary prayer for the Jewish people extraordinary faith that God himself is brought the Jewish people back to let you have no idea though the degree of of attack that we come on the complaining not complaining the lease by privileging joy to be attacked. The truth of the gospel, but on a daily basis. You're not a Christian because your Zionist as of being a Zionist is now an ugly and ugly bad thing so was Charles Spurgeon, Zionist. So what you mean by that. Okay by Zionism, we mean the belief that the Jewish people are entitled to their ancient homeland, or that is God's plan for them to have their ancient homeland as a Christian scientist you believe what was a Zionist in general wouldn't even have to bring God in theoretically the Jewish people should have their own homeland where it has always been that would be Zionist doesn't mean that other people have to be displaced because that are other people mistreated, but just that there should be a Jewish homeland in the Middle East in what has been Israel to the century right in a Christian Zionist would say that God himself has promised to bring the Jewish people back to the land now, someone posted the other day in and said Leviticus 26 makes it clear that God cursed Israel and is finished with Israel and the subject. I thought of all passages. The quote but he quoted the wrong passage so Leviticus 26 like Deuteronomy 28 is blessings for obedience to the Torah and curses were disobedient.

Beginning in verse 14. Leviticus 26. But if you will not listen to me or carry out all these mitzvot. These commandments if you reject my statutes and if your soul abhors my ordinances so that you do not keep on mitzvot, but instead break my covenant that I will do the following to return by Lloyd Kilby. These mitzvot in Hebrew because it's such a common word in Hebrew that the keeping of the commandments.

The mitzvot doing mitzvot so that's why it's there and and it's it's Hebrew into English so God now begins to save if you break my covenant if you don't keep my commandments. I'll do the following June. Return all appoint terror over you, wasting disease and fever that within the eyes and cause the soul part of what you sow your seed in vain because your enemies will eat it a semi-face against her newbie routed before your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you flee when no one pursues an end and it goes on verse 18. If you in spite of these things well, listen to me, then I'll chastise you seven times more for your sent is very intense.

Verse 21. If you keep walking.

Contrary to me will not listen to me that all multiply the plagues and you seven times Dickerson gets worse and worse. Verse 23. Now if in spite of these things shall not be trusted by me.

But walk contrary to me. Instead then also a contrary you will strike you on my cell seven times for your sins. There was 27. If in spite of this shall not listen to me. But walk contrary to me that I will conquer you in wrath assault cast as you seven times for your sent goes on and on.

You'll be exiled in the central be destroyed and the land will enjoy it shall be told that Savitz of verse 36 is for those who remain a bring weakness into their hearts in the land of their enemies so that the sound of a driven leaf will put them to flight in the we as one flees through the sword, even when no one is pursuing so you must suffer those who remain those in the land. Your enemies are to suffer terribly. Verse 40 by if they confess their iniquity, and out of their fathers and the treachery they committed against me, and how they walk contrary to me. In return, I will contrary them and brought them into the land of their enemies and for that time, their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they accept the punishment for their iniquity, then I will remember my covenant with Jacob and also my covenant with Isaac my covenant with Abraham and I will remember the land. The land will be deserted by them will enjoy it shall be toted. Sabbath swallowed the lies desolate without them, and he will accept the punishment of their iniquity because they rejected my ordinances and their soul poured by statute it for all that when they are in the land of their enemies. I will not reject them nor will I hate them and charge destruction and break my covenant with them prime on either God, but for the their sake, I'll remember the covenant of their ancestors my brought out of the land of Egypt, and so the nations that I might be there God I am Adonai I am the Lord. So God saying even with this extreme judgment number one among you to totally wipe out Israel I I will remember the covenant and Paul in Galatians 317 reminds us that the law that the Torah, the Sinai covenant, which came 430 years after the promises to Abraham and Isaac, and Jacob doesn't annul the promises so God says I'm going to remember and then he says if you confess your iniquity. I'm gonna restore so even in the midst of the most severe judgment promised God saying I'm still going to remember you elsewhere. God says I spoke about you in my wrath, but my heart always yearned for you. That's God's love, even as he chastises his disobedient children.

Even as he judges them. Even if he's even as he says you're not my people.

You are my people chosen, but you are not my people in relationship right now.

You're under my judgment I will know you and I respect so the remember you.

I'm not can only distribute that's why the Jewish people been preserved. Otherwise we would've been completely wiped out right now. Ezekiel 36 is initially spoken in the context of the return of the Jewish people from Babylonian exile.

That's initial context, but you can see from reading that it was never fulfilled. Like many other Old Testament prophecies prophecies of judgment properties. Restoration prophecies of the Messiah started a certain point will be fulfilled at a later point. So God starts with words of comfort verse eight Ezekiel 36, eight, you mountains of Israel you will shoot forth your branches and yield your fruit for my people Israel for their return is near verse 13, the says all denial humus is the Lord God as they say to you, you are a devout menu deprived a nation of children. Therefore, you will no longer development and will no longer deprive your nation of children so this is promises to the land and then verse 16 where Adonai came to me saying Son of Man when the house of Israel lived in their own land. They defiled it by their way and by their deeds way before me was like the uncleanness of a woman in her knee.the technical term for woman in her menstrual uncleanness. I poured out my fury on them for the blood which they chat upon the land because they had defiled it with their idols and he goes on and says this now in verse 22. Therefore say to the house of Israel. This is Adonai Elohim, the Lord God, I do not do this for your sake house of Israel, but for my holy name.

He says the previous verse and same thing here which you profaned among the nations review went to River. The Jewish people were scattered among the nations nations that you see your guilty Godspeed Yahweh's people.

Some of them out with Yahweh. He can't, the God of Israel, he can keep his people. He can preserve them. There scavenges temples destroyed his name gets its defiled and whatever bad behavior they had with further defiled his name through some of those for your sake, but for the sake of my name, I will sanctify my great name, which is been profaned among the nations which you have profaned among them, the nations will know that I am Adonai it is a declaration Adonai when I am sanctified in you before their eyes, for I will take you from the nations gather you out all the countries and bring you back your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean from all the uncleanness of motorized.

Moreover, I will give you new heart open new spirit within you all remove the stone heart your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. The are you getting this the children of Israel, the Jewish people have not yet repent. His name is being defiled the Lord's name among the nations. But God's is for his namesake. He will act and bring his people back to the land and then sprinkle clean water on them and then give them a new heart. So yes, under the Sinai covenant.

The Jewish people had to repent. Israel had to repent. In order to be restored to the land of Israel.

Cindy was exiled. Israel had to be repent to be restored. That's under the Sinai covenant, but God can decide to act over and above that for the sake of his name is and he's sovereign after all, isn't he the king.

After all, isn't he the ruler of the universe. After all, and if he decides for the sake of his name to bring back he can bring back as is reiterated in in Romans 911 mercy on whom he wants to have mercy. Thank God for his mercy. Thank God it's not all about works and works righteousness in our efforts as we all fall short in this encourages all believers should encourage the church because of God have mercy on Israel restored Israel of God restore the Jewish people, even in unbelief that that's what's been happening some some of the design as leaders were communists and atheists, and absolutely not believers in the God of Israel and God work through them. The birther movement to bring people back that no flesh can glory in his presence that no one can boast about like we need to see this is the hand of God on this and what about the injustice of Israel, or consult first restarting the Scripture. I see the hand of God unmistakably clearly under the more Scripture and them getting Charles Spurgeon, JC Bryant, the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown, the voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown (the modify we talk about Zionism in the body. Christian Zionism and the Bob and you believe that Jesus is Lord that Jesus alone saves and also believe that God keeps his promises to the Jewish people. Of course, why not. Where is there a contradiction if you said Jews don't need Jesus to be say if you said Jews have a covenant of their own. If you said Jews can live by the righteousness of the law and don't be the same in the Messiah that would be wrong. That would be heretical.

That would be a denial of the cross that would be a denial of salvation. Only through Jesus. You say you Jewish people need Jesus to be say they need to shore like everybody else, but also believe that God is brought them back to the land and is doing this for many reasons. He has his reasons in history and future prophecy to do these doing but is keeping his promises. It's not. It is not racial supremacy. It is not favoritism, it is that God keeps his promises automatic and calls today we'll look in a moment in an amazing sermon preached by Charles Spurgeon in 1864 in an amazing message from Bishop JC Ryle everything on the quote you in that the minutes that follow after the Scriptures is included in the new, revised, updated, expanded edition of our hands were stained with blood. If you were blessed by the first edition you are going to be super blessed by the new expanded updated edition.

If you've never read it. I want to put that on your list, it comes out in September. Jeremiah 16 again spoken in the initial context of Jewish people being scattered into Babylon and then a return from Babylon and Assyria and other countries but still not yet fully fulfill, but getting closer every day. Jeremiah 1614. Therefore, the days are quickly coming to Claire's other nut declares the Lord, when it will only be set aside in our lives who brought the children of Israel, of the land of Egypt, rather, is on our lives, who brought the children of Israel from the land of the north and from all the lands where he had banished them. So I will bring them back into their land that I gave to their fathers. E who scattered will regather say again, he who scattered will regather. I've been through this many a time, and it's very very simple.

When God blesses no one can curse when he curses no one can bless opens the door.

No one can shut it when he shuts the door.

No one can open when he smites, and we can heal the heels. No one can smite when he's dad is known can regather when he regather's.

No one can scatter so as well. A focus on we agree that God scattered the Jewish people around the world in his wrath and his judgment agree that Jerusalem fell under the judgment of God is a judgment for rejecting Jesus as the Messiah, not just in his crucifixion, but after his resurrection. Yes, many tens of thousands of new scrubs. Hundreds of thousands of Jews were following Jesus, but the national leadership there for the nation as a whole rejected him as Messiah and came under severe divine judgment.

We have been scattered in divine judgment, then who regather people just it, you can't undo God's curse will be wended over the UN can overrule God. God did it. You scattered regather. This is exactly what he promised through many, many prophets now trust Spurgeon 1864 we preach this message titled the restoration and conversion of the Jews restoration and conversion of the Jews, so he was 29 years old three days shy of his 30th birthday, so he was preaching from Ezekiel 37 verses one through 10 the vision of the dry bone. So let's let's look at that first Ezekiel chapter 37 and verses one through 10. The hand of Adonai and of the Lord was upon the rock that I the spirit of the Lord carried me out and set me down in the middle of the valley was full both the member.

This falls Ezekiel 36, which speak of the literal return of the Jewish exiles and the people of Israel from captivity coming back to the land to this valley full of bones. He led me all around them, behold, there were very many on the floor. The ballot builder very dry and he said to me, serve man in these bones live prophesy over these bones. He said say to them dry bones. One of Allah. This is Adonai Elohim to these bones. Behold, I will cause raw spirit. The entry rest the entry so you will live. I will attach tendons to bring flesh on you and cover you with skin that opened breath and you will live you will know that I'm Adonai prophesy just as I was commanded as I prophesy. There was noise, behold, an earthquake. The bones came together, bone to bone some, behold, there were tendons on the flesh came up and skin covered them above, but no breath in them. They said to be prophesied to the rock to the winds spirit breath, prophesy sentiments into the rock. This is Adonai Elohim come from the four winds raw breathe upon these slain, that they may live. So I prophesy just as he commanded me the Rue off him into them and they live. They stood up on their feet. Avast Army quite so here's what Spurgeon says great. This is all in the new edition of our hands were stained with blood command September Spurgeon acknowledged that the passage could be interpreted. Quote to describe the revival of the decayed church lowers yeah you could spiritually apply it to revival of the church. The dead bones look but that was not the prophet's primary intent. No convergences. He was talking of his own people was own race was own tribe.

He surely ought to have known his own mind and led by the Holy Spirit gives us an explanation of the vision not thus says the Lord by dying church shall be restored, but I will bring my people out of their graves and bring them into the land of Israel right 1864, 1864. Now, 20, 30 years after that there was a surge in Jewish exiles coming back to the land and working side-by-side with Arab neighbors and in fact developing land and buying land, which then brought an increase of Arabs from other surrounding nations that came in, then to work because now there was more work there is more opportunity because of Jewish development and in the modern Zionist movement on the heels of that which starts nearly 1900. None of this was happening. None of this was happening when Spurgeon was was making this declaration based on Ezekiel 37 is what he said the meaning of our text is opened up by the context is most evidently if words mean anything first, that there shall be a political restoration of the Jews to their own land and their own nationality.

Trust Spurgeon, I'm having these people to Brown are not a Christian. Here is designed in a Christian era Zionist bill and Anna I feel bad for them. I generally do again. I appreciate you say Dr. Brown.

Don't be discouraged. The attacks encourage me because it's assigned to doing the right thing and were hitting a nerve right� Someone said to me that this data.

Grandpa said you know you throw a rock into a pack of dogs and the one that yelps is the one that got hit. Now I'm not advocating throwing rocks at dogs case is that of folks saying the song related to so sometimes the more people get mad and speak attacks is who looks like we had a nerve.

There right what encourages Ms. testimonies of your lives being changed by the gospel in God at work in you and how we can be blessed. That's encouraging Sentinel's testimony, it only to encourage because of encouraged in the Lord more the attacks, one curds and were doing the right thing.

Trust Spurgeon under the quote this again meaning of our text is open by the context is most evidently if words mean anything. First, that there shall be a political restoration of the Jews to their own land, and to their own nationality and then secondly, there is in the text and in the context of most playing declaration that there shall be a spiritual restoration a conversion. In fact, of the tribes of Israel will see Anglican Bishop JC Ryle. He said as he read the text seemed evident to him first physical restoration to the land and unbelief and salvation just will receive just what we are seeing now. Spurgeon paints this picture was. Israel is now blotted out from the map of nation and 64. Her sons are scattered far and wide for daughters mourn beside all the rivers of the earth for sacred song is hush.

No king rains in Jerusalem she bring forth no governors among her tribes which she is to be restored. Just be restored as from the dead, known that Israel be birthed out of the ashes of the Holocaust literally from the dead when her own sons have given up all hope of her, then, is God to appear for that sound about right. Just to be reorganized are scattered bones are to be brought together. There will be a native government again.

There will again be the form of a body politic estate shall be incorporated in the King shall reign right.

He's looking for Kings British right is with the pattern is from the past so that's his expectation. And of course there will be beaking the Messiah. Ultimately, ruling and reigning Israel has now become alienated from homeland. Spurgeon says her sons really can never forget the sacred dust of Palestine.

Yet diet a hopeless distance from her consecrated chores, but it shall not be sold forever for her son shall again rejoice in her her land shall be called blue law married with young men marries the virgin social her sons marry her. I will place you in your own land is God's promise to them, they shall again walk upon her mountains shall once more sit under her vines and rejoice under her big trees and they are also to be reunited. There shall not be tuner 10 or 12, but one. One is real crazy one God serving one king that one came the son of David, the descendent Messiah.

So yes he looks forward to the salvation of the Jewish people under King Jesus. And that is our ultimate next expectation, but he clearly sees as a set of words mean anything. That there will be a physical restoration of the Jewish people to the land called Charles Spurgeon a desire to see this damn him to hell. Now this he saw the Scriptures plainly because we are just getting started. All these codes more the new edition of her hands were stained with blood comes out in the gives the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by going to 866-34-TRUTH your exam is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us friends.

I'm not taking calls today which means this is a super content filled broadcasts with quotes with Scripture with a ton of information for you. That's eye-opening and life changing trust Spurgeon amazing sermon he preached in 1864, three days shy of his 30th birthday is many things clear in Scripture is a God's gonna bring the Jewish people back to the land and reestablish them politically, and nationally that they will turn to the Lord be converted vertically means the faith in Jesus the Messiah. Yes, and others before him and after him said these things.

Eight. When I write one of my favorite things to do is" all I can't wait to put this quote missed I get this extraordinary joy as I was expanding, updating, revising our hands were stained with blood came out. 1992 is been continuously imprint since that what when I was doing that and and putting in all these quotes are massively expanded. Some of the chapters only after I get this incredible joy I get to share this with you today.

Here on the line of fire. You might say look IPO.

I actually believe God can bring the Jewish people back to Ibis is not this now so political.

This is so carnal and Palestinians are suffering in Israel as a righteous nation at I can see this is the hand of God, but could you see that the hand of God is number one.

Gonna reset on the Jewish with my people and unbelief for my namesake is one thing which he says in Ezekiel 36 and elsewhere. A second thing that no flesh can glory in his presence so no one can take credit for this, except all second thing to the early Zionist not letting believers in God. Many of them then third thing with God is doing this to stir up worldwide issues to bring things to the surface it says as he sees me. Zechariah 12 and Zechariah 14 is giving all nations against Jerusalem to judge them. What if this is part of God's sifting of the nations is using Israel to Seth even unbelief even send with God's doing. Cannot he do that is sovereign board, but it is also doing it to awaken his Jewish people as more and more Jews coming back into the land of Israel now coming to faith in Jesus the Messiah.

There in the land of Israel. This is all one great set up the ever so much bloodshed and take not does not bloodshed and taken the land was bloodshed and keeping the land from those attacking that the, the Peel commission in 1937 I believe offered a plan where the vast majority of Palestine would go to the Arabs in Israel would get maybe 15%. The Jewish people. They accepted it. The Arab leaders rejected the 1947 partition plan now more fair to Israel, but still very precarious hockey defend those borders that the Jewish people accepted it.

The Arab leadership the most leadership rejected it and attack that's been the pattern. That's the issue.

To this day, but the bottom line is, Israel has nothing to boast in the righteousness of its own. It exists because of a strong military because of US support. It exists by the grace of God to listen what Spurgeon says Yuri if there be any saying clear and plain say once more 1864 the literal sense and meaning of this passage, a meaning not to be spirited or spiritualized way. Speaking of Ezekiel 37 the Valley the tribal must be evident that both the two and then the 10 tribes of Israel are to be restored to their own land, and the king is to rule that came will be in Jesus. He said I think trust Spurgeon Prince or peach sprints of preachers.

One of the most Jesus centered Jesus exalting preachers of all time affected the stories told and verified but I read it that that someone had brought you here. One of the greatest preachers in in England on Sunday morning we left the service summit overheard him saying last sermon what sermon and that night he went to her Spurgeon preacher Metropolitan Tabernacle is the same person was there overheard him saying what a Savior.

What a Savior.

Spurgeon is Jesus centered preachers they come listen to what he said. I think we do not attach sufficient importance to the restoration of the Jews. We do not think enough about it, but certainly if there is anything promised in the Bible it is this. Spurgeon said I imagine that you cannot read the Bible without seeing clearly that there is to be a natural restoration of the children of Israel yet physically and spiritually was the principle of risk within 15 verse the natural than the spirit by Bishop Gaiser a little bit older than Spurgeon, but a contemporary Anglican Bishop and and this is this is what he writes or preaches is imagining a conversation between the Christian and Jew in the Jewish person does not believe in Jesus but the Christian believes as we do. The Jesus literally fulfill the Old Testament prophecies about his first coming right to the Christians as I literally believe Jesus was born in Bethlehem and born of a virgin, died for sins and rose from the dead and ascended to heaven. I believe he literally fulfill the prophecies of his first coming right so glasses but suppose the Jew asks you if you take all the prophecies of the Old Testament and their simple literal meaning, supposedly ask you if you believe in a literal personal advent of Messiah terrain over the earth and glory, a literal restoration of Judah and Israel Palestine, a literal rebuilding and restoration of Zion and Jerusalem.

Suppose the unconverted Jew puts those questions to what answer you prepared to make you dare to tell him that Old Testament prophecies of this kind are not to be taken in their play literal sense, will you dare to tell them that the word Zion Jerusalem, Jacob, Judah F Brian Israel do not mean what they seem to me but mean the Church of Christ. When you dare to tell him that the glorious kingdom and future blessedness of Zion so often dwelt upon in prophecy mean nothing more than the gradual Christianizing of the world by missionaries and gospel preaching where you delegate dare W think it is carnal to expect the literal rebuilding of Jerusalem carnal to expect the literal coming of Messiah terrain over leisure. If you are a man of this mind. Take care what you're doing.

I say again, take care that one brilliant point yet Jesus literally fulfill the prophecies of his first coming. Literally fulfill them and you might find one spiritualist year there was one after another M&Ms posted somewhere is supposed to come when there is must be borne by Lewis postdoc riser is most arise as it is written as it is written as it is written on about we reinterpret all the other stuff but Israel Nasser. That's us that the church so the church is the spiritual Jacob promises to Jacob. It was a young spiritual Jacob Kaman, the Ryle nails it to listen what he says. Time would fail me and he dies it in 1918 60 to 1900, so he dies as well and preaches as well before the rise of the modern Zionist movement hi would fail me if I attempted to quote all the passages of Scripture in which the future history of Israel is revealed. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah Micah, Zephaniah, Zechariah, all declared the same thing.

All predict with more or less particularity but in the end of this dispensation. The Jews are to be restored to their own land and to the favor of God. I lay no claim to infallibility interpretation of Scripture in this matter. I am well aware that many excellent Christians cannot see the subject as I do only say that to my eyes future salvation of Israel as people there return to Palestine and their national conversion to God appear as clearly, plainly reveal any prophecy in dogs were amen Bishop Ryle preacher brother FF Bruce says this New Testament scholar leading New Testament evangelical scholars.

The last generation.

Israel's blindness is only partially temporary new covenant will not be complete until it embraces the people of the old covenant all this material in the new addition of our hands were stained with blood.

Now, now, you might say, but this New Testament changer. If the New Testament could change everything. Then why should an Old Testament you believe it. It's like when Muslims come and say that our Bible is correct that we should believe the Koran will why should we believe the Crombie have the word of God. Jesus abolished rather than for Bill if it Jesus changed everything so that it no longer resemble what came first.

If you did not build on the foundation of the Old Testament prophets no test but long Old Testament teaching then it's it's not the real gospel is not good news for Israel and for the nations now what I want to do is show you God's heart and all this right of first ministry got sore and then I want to go to the New Testament and examine this idea of core Christian Zionism based on the New Testament, so I want to go to chapter 31 in the book of Jeremiah and Anna want to read a verse you Jeremiah chapter 31 verse 19 God has been zero will back it up right. Let's let's back up to verse 17 F Brian northern Israel has been severely judged in Jeremiah's day severely judged F Brian has gone into exile in been decimated by Assyria. So here's the dialogue. Verse 17 of Jeremiah 31 I indeed heard after I am grieving you have disciplinary I was discipline like an untrained calf restore me and I'll return for you are Adonai Lord my God, for after I return.

I repented and after that I was instructed I struck my thigh.

I was ashamed and also humiliated Bible to disgrace about use of this is Israel repenting and being stored by God and look at what God says is fry am a precious son to me.

Is he a delightful child for as often as I spoke against him. I still certainly remember him. Therefore my heart yearns for him.

I will surely have compassion on him. It is a declaration of Adonai a few weeks ago: name Daniel seems to be very serious student Scripture ask me if Israel still God's people were still God's children. One of those questions blessedness says yes and no. Since no. In a sense, yes, in terms of Israel being God's son. That's what he said in any cauldron to be his son, his people on the other hand, no because they're not in right relationship with him now, so they are estranged and I saw later on you to be posted many verses back in his point that Israel was.God's people however you slice that doesn't promise the father figure. So he's keeping existing people to his identify if they're not in regulation.

These scatter them, keeping them these regathering so he continues to work in his heart always on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown is rejoining his friends on the modify ribbon asking the question was Charles Spurgeon, a Christian Zionist answer yes yes in that he said that God clearly and emphatically and deftly said was worried that he would bring back scattered tribes of Israel and Judah tribes of Israel would bring them back to the land physically restore them to the land and there would be a national turning Bishop Tracy Ryle as he unfolds. This, again, a contemporary of Spurgeon another highly respected church leader should read Ryle's book on holiness and things like that of an challenging great stuff that he he said absolutely plain from Scripture that gobbled the Jewish people back to Lent and unbelief best as he could see it become back and unbelief and once in the land to be attorney symbol was New Testament talk about the return of the Jewish people. Such a big issue for the prophets. How come the New Testament doesn't talk about it so much. Well, when most of the books of the New Testament were written that the Jewish people at least a million several million were where they are in the land right so they they were there in the land was a call Palestine at that point yet. They were also scattered around the world that they were there in the land.

The temple was standing so there was not as much talk about restoration and regathering, but let's look at some verses in the New Testament that reinforce the point that God promised scattering and regathering. Luke 21 she was speaking in verse 20. When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies then recognize that her desolation is near those intraday misleading amounts and those inside the city must get out those in the countryside must not enter. These are the days of punishment to fulfill all that has been written both of those were pregnant to those who are nursing babies in those days will be great distress in the land, and wrath on this people notice they will fall by the edge of the sort and be led away captive into all the nations Jerusalem will be trampled by the Gentiles until until the time of the Gentiles times of the Gentiles article right so there is going to be a scattering and a trampling on till until what will until it stops until it's undone that the one who scattered will regather the one who judged will restore below allowed for the trampling will allow for it. No more. It's it's a wonderful glorious promise. It's a dreadful promise of judgment. We seen that we've seen the suffering we seen the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 and the scattering of the Jewish people and the subsequent revolt with even more scattering and more suffering. After we seen all that eventually seen that book it's only on till it will be until a point in time they will fall by the edge of the sword be led away captive into all the nations.

Jerusalem will be trebled by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are and then what then restoration might let the psycho Peter says we have the words of Jesus. Let's look at what Peter says in acts chapter 3 acts chapter 3.

After the healing of the lame man is preaching to his people and he says this acts three. Beginning in verse 17 reading from the TLB is a half-day now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance. Just as really interested but would God foretold to the mouth of all his prophets of this Messiah was to suffer. So as he refilled repent therefore in return. So your sands might be blotted out, so times the relief or refreshing. I come from the presence of Adonai of the Lord, and he might send Yeshua the Messiah point. If you look in verse 21 heaven must receive them until the time of the restoration of all the things that God spoke about long ago through the mouth of his holy own of what did the prophets speak of what restoration did they prophesy is there any ambiguity or question whatsoever that they prophesied the return of the Jewish people to the land and the glorious restoration of God's presence in the land of the nation screaming to Jerusalem to worship the God of his glory spiritualize a lot based on what we give the right to do that is New Testament authors often make a spiritual application from the Old Testament, they don't deny the actual meaning of it went. When Paul talk about the law when in the tour already where God says don't muzzle the ox the treads out the corn and impulses to secure the oxen. This is for our sake was the same woman muzzle the oxen and and make sure that it doesn't get to eat as his plowing snow is making a spiritual application, say like yeah oxen important, but how much one for the gospel a result of zones preaching and make sure you make his living of the gospel of his ministry full-time esses blog not denying aldermen muzzle the ox. No, no wasn't changing.

Always make a spiritual application from said they were these promises to Israel. You can make a spiritual application just on still the promises that so hard.

This is a hard during the said God brought people back. The onesie Scotty preserved the broadest back in unbelief and now turning more and more to the Messiah so the notice also this. The Greek word for restoration. Now there's a link. The Greek now with the verbal form of that now is used repeatedly in the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament talk about restoring the Jewish people back to Lancaster and the Jewish people back to Lancaster and the Jewish people. Beckman what Scott keeps his promise is his faithful is he makes promises based on his goodness, not ours and his faith was not ours on his grace our I'm through. I want Brill B does that that's the kind of God that we serve. Right now, let's take a look in Romans chapter 15 right. Romans 15 and in all this material is in the new edition of our hands are stained with blood, the quotes from Charles Spurgeon, JC Ryle, the information about the acts three and Luke 21 and some excellent insights from Prof. Joby Kermit on that reconnects three but now, in Romans 15 also in the new edition of her hand to stay with blood which comes out in September right so let's look in verse seven that remember the backdrop to Rome first believers in Rome choose then Gentiles, then you got congregation believers in Rome joined Gentile together, then Emperor banishes all Jews from Rome.

So now the Jewish believers are scattered as well. So you got an exclusively Gentile congregation and then the band is lifted and juice can come back to now they come back to it to Rome and you got Jew and Gentile side-by-side in. They don't do everything the same way and that's part of what Paul is dealing with in Romans and in uncertain days of certain foods and things like that and strong believers. The weak believer isn't even really the way Jewish believers with strong Gentiles the week the Gentile strong views the week or mixture in a way, these are pastoral things both dealing with and what about the promises of God. Didn't God make promises Israel off your telling us and what's not into the eighth chapter is written this the letter both your telling us then this chapter that that nothing can separate us from God's love. 11 Israel all the documents are in our chapter division of real chapter salary talks about his with that important that important recording rights here in chapter 15 verse seven.

Therefore, accept one another, just as Messiah also accept you to the glory of God. I declare that Messiah has become a servant to the circumcised, for the sake of God's truth notices in order to print firm promises given to the patriarchs who lower the promises that the children of Israel would be innumerable that they would dwell in the land and that through them. The world would be blessed. And of course it is through the preeminent seed is with Paul focuses on Galatians 316, the preeminent seed through which the promises are built, but you promise after promise after promise after promise to the patriarchs about the land, the land, the land, the land, the land, the lintel, you can get an audit, yet the deny the literal truth of Scripture to deny so Messiah does not cancel the promises to the patriarchs friends. He confirms them. He confirms that Paul writes in Romans 1128 even as their enemies of the gospel for your sake. There still loved by God because the patriarchs with gifts and calling God a revocable and that's that Scripture will not always roses are Romans 96 post talking about in Israel within Israel, Jews within the nation to believe, but thereafter Romans 910 11 every time as this is realistic about the nation as a whole nation as a whole nation as a whole nation as a whole and yes we break down every single verse with commentary their hands. They were blood. I declare that Messiah has become a servant to the circumcised, for the sake of God's truth in order to confirm the promises given to the patriarchs and for the Gentiles to glorify God for his mercy. So this is what Jesus does.

He confirms the promises to the patriarchs. He opens up the door. Salvation of the nation's cassettes.

Also, what was promised Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Through their see the whole world would be blessed with the Gentiles to glorify God for his mercy as it is written. For this reason, I will give you praise among the Gentiles and I will sink your name and again it says rejoice so Gentiles with his people and again praise Adonai will you Gentiles let all the peoples praise him again. Isaiah says, there shall be a sheet of Jesse and the one who arises truly Gentiles in him shall the Gentiles hope that's Messiah Jew and Gentile one in Jesus system. No class system.

No one bigger or better than the other, all equally loved by God. Romans 1012 he writes, what is the difference between Jew and Gentile for the same God is God of all richly answering richly justifying, richly saving all those who call upon him herself. That's the good news and that same God to show his faithfulness on the earth because he may promises the earth is bringing his people back to the land. That's why the world hates it. That's why there's so much opposition to it so you look in the eyes, and if you listen give your best year. Those who say if you're Christian and you're Zionist you're not a Christian you are deeply mistaken. You have made serious errors in terms of the word of God, we sanction everything Israel does know for some healthy criticism. This will absolutely pray for the salvation of Israel pray against Israel persecuting messianic using lines. Yes yes yes God is to review the show with the Scriptures

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