Debunking the March 4 Conspiracy Theories

Spoiler alert! We are about to debunk a major conspiracy theory. For truth here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

Delighted to be with you. I wrote an article just a week ago saying, hey, we've been so focused on Trump, so talking about Trump day and night, in church, out of church, all different sectors of society. Let's put our focus where it belongs. Let's move on from focusing on Trump.

And yet another story arises, headline news reporting it, and we need to take a little while to debunk it because, as I have discovered and as surveys have confirmed, and many of you know firsthand, there's a lot of conspiracy theory stuff out there believed by a lot of Christians, a lot of conservatives, a lot of folks believe this stuff, so we're gonna take time to bring it to your attention and to tell you what is not going to happen. Now this is an easy one. You don't need to be particularly spiritually astute or politically astute to get this right.

This is an easy one. However, a lot of folks believe all kinds of crazy things. Hey, after all, wasn't it crazy that Trump ever became president in the first place? Wasn't it crazy that a prophecy that Trump would be president and would appoint three Supreme Court justices?

It was not crazy and that happened and he moved the embassy to Jerusalem and all the presidents before him, from Clinton to Bush to Obama, they didn't move it and, hey, stranger things have happened. Yeah, I understand why people believe kind of strange things could happen and I understand the skepticism with the so-called fake news and so much of the leftist perspective. I understand all that and I understand as Bible believers many of us are are people of great faith and we've seen impossible things happen and then there's also reality. God is not a God who denies reality. God can change reality. In other words, someone literally dies. He can raise that person from the dead. He does that.

But most of the time, the vast majority of the time, 99.99999 percent of time, he doesn't do that and we accept reality. The person has died. It's grievous. It's heartbreaking. It shatters our lives but we move on. Folks need to move on.

There will not be a transfer of power on March 4th. Now when you hear the reasoning behind it, you say, that's absolutely crazy. No, nobody in their mind believes anything like this and yet people believe it.

Now I want to put out a question for you, all right? Now if you yourself believe this, then by all means lead the way in calling and telling us why you believe it and I promise you, I'm not going to give you 20 minutes to give an explanation, but I promise I'll let you give your explanation as to why you believe this is going to happen and then I'll I'll tell you why I differ. 866-34-TRUTH. 866-34-87-884. But if you know folks in your church, and your family, and your circle of relations that are holding to this or that are still expecting Trump during the Biden presidency to become the president, that Biden will be displaced and Trump will replace him. If you know people that hold to that, give me a call.

866-34-87-884. Some of you are saying, what on earth are you talking about, man? I haven't heard anything about this. Okay, let's look at some headlines. Let's look at some headlines.

Start with the salon.com. Look at what this says. QAnon followers still think Trump will be inaugurated on March 4th. National Guard will be ready. So in other words, there's enough internet buzz, there are enough people talking about this that National Guard has been told stay on standby through, oh, second week of March or so.

Stay on standby because people are expecting something to happen. Here's a headline from Newsweek. QAnon hardliners are doubling down on theory Donald Trump will be reinstated on March 4th. So this is Newsweek and these are headlines within the last few days. QAnon hardliners are doubling down on theory Donald Trump will be reinstated on March 4th. You say, okay, where on earth are they getting it from?

And why March 4th? Now look, one thing about conspiracy theories is sometimes the more outlandish the theory, the more extreme the lie, then the more people believe it. The more people go for it, the more far-fetched it is, the more people go for it. So here's a conversation on CNN and Alison Camerota asked this question of her guest Julian Field. So first let's hear the question that she puts out to Julian Field. Joining us now is Julian Field, founder, producer, and co-host of the podcast QAnon Anonymous, which works to dissect, dispel, and debunk these conspiracy theories.

Julian, great to have you on. Can you explain the conspiracy theory that has begun to take hold that involves March 4th? What are they expecting to happen on March 4th? Now notice she calls it convoluted and it is. And you think, okay, this guy's just making the thing up, it can't actually be friends.

This is what some people, a significant minority, many of them professing Christians, this is what they actually believe. And let me say this before we play the clip. When I brought Professor Jim Beverley on with me, he was on national Canadian TV over the weekend, he's in Canada, so it's national Canadian news talking about his book QAnon Deception.

If you don't have it yet, get it, it's it's a real eye-opener. We wanted to get it out so quickly, we published it with our own publishing arm, Equal Time Books, QAnon Deception, James Beverley. But when when I brought him on the air to talk about the book and to debunk the myths, we got blasted. I'm talking about on our Facebook page, Ask Dr. Brown, A.S.K.G.R.

Brown, with almost 600,000 followers. It's a very active page. A lot of people blasted us, meaning they held to it. As I'm speaking now, I'm not looking up at the comments as they're coming in on Facebook, but doubtless there are people blasting me, or who will be blasting me, for daring to challenge the QAnon narrative. So as crazy as this sounds, there are people right now watching and listening who believe every word of this. Listen to what Julian Field says.

Good morning, Alison, and thanks for having me. The March 4th theory actually comes from sovereign citizen beliefs. Now in the past, we haven't seen such a huge overlap, but in this case, QAnon, certain QAnon followers have borrowed whole cloth from a belief that the last legitimate president was the 18th president. So this goes back to 1871, and this is the belief that Trump will be actually inaugurated as our 19th president. Now, of course, this is illogical since he was the 45th, but what they believe is that there is, there has been no country known as the United States ever since it was unstuck from the gold standard, and they don't believe that any amendment past the 16th amendment is valid. So they essentially believe that Ulysses S. Grant was the last American, valid American president.

They believe, I mean, I think there's different beliefs, obviously, of what will happen on that day, but I think many are expecting a ceremony, and that ceremony might be accompanied in their mind by what QAnon believers call the storm. That would be, you know, as described a little earlier on the segment, the rounding up and often military tribunals, you know, for leading Democrats and but also some celebrities they believe falsely to be part of this secret pedophile cabal. So essentially people are still in this belief that Trump will come back and will become the president again, obviously falsely. Look, there are videos on YouTube that have gone absolutely viral proclaiming this very thing and Christians saying it's gonna happen.

In fact, there's a comment, just scroll up guys, on the Facebook page that I just spotted here. Yeah, let's just look at the rest of this. I wish I could have paid more attention, Bible and learning from teachers like Dr. Brown. I was totally submerged into the Q conspiracy theories. I slowed down once I realized that they kept saying things would get better after everyone was arrested.

I knew the Bible said the opposite, but I didn't stop altogether like I should have. Then they had that weird saying where we go on blah blah blah that seemed very weird and cultish so on and so forth. What keeps going on with finally waking up to reality? So I'm not trying to be nasty, I'm not trying to be mean-spirited, I certainly don't want to be condescending to those who have believed wrong things and have fallen in terror and deception.

We've been trying to put out a safety net for you for months and months knowing that the crash was coming. The concern is when people step deeper and deeper into denial, when people step deeper and deeper into deception and they lose all touch with reality. Let me give you the story yet again and I started talking about it towards the end of last year, mid-December, because I knew all this was going to unfold with greater deception and delusion. Now here's the principle, you fall into deception when you refuse to believe the truth. You fall into delusion when you refuse to to accept facts. So it becomes harder and harder for you to process reality because everything becomes part of the conspiracy. In other words, in other words, if you are absolutely sure God told you it would be a sunny day today and and you you stake your life on it, you post all these prophecies that God told me it's gonna be a sunny day today and it starts raining at 6 a.m. and rains through the whole day. That the more that you go into doubt, well this is just deceptive, no this is a lie, no it's actually not today, this is I it's actually yesterday repeating it.

You get into all kinds of craziness and you lose touch with reality and and then no one can prove anything to you because reality has no meaning anymore. So I talked about this couple in a church service, this is a story I heard in the church where I got saved so I don't know over 45 almost 50 years ago I heard this story that a guy's prophesying speaks to a woman in the church and says to her the Lord showed me you're gonna be a missionary you go into India and there's a man in the back of the church he prophesied to her, the Lord showed me gonna be a missionary going to China. Well he didn't know they were husband and wife and they got in the car they're all excited and the wife said to her husband the man of God told me we're gonna be missionaries we're going to India and he said no no no the man of God prophesied to me he said we're gonna be missionaries we're going to China she said no no we're going to India, no China. So they said what's going on so they go in and they find the guy still in the building they tell him what happened he said no no no the Lord says you're going to Indochina so I have been pleading now for several months please none of the Indochina prophecies please don't try to change reality please accept the facts I'm making that plea with humility once again please accept reality it is time to move on Donald Trump is present it is time to move on all right back with some headlines some news some interesting information and your calls eight six six three four eight seven eight eight it's the line of fire with your host dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution here again is dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us friends on the line of fire eight six six three four eight seven eight eight four I am making no pronouncements about Donald Trump's political future I am NOT saying anything about what will happen in 2024 I'm not here saying what mr. Trump former President Trump should or shouldn't do I'm simply saying that he is not going to be president during these next four years it is not going to happen and as much as we are doing our best to move on and to call people to focus on something fresh and new for today and for believers in particular to focus on the Lord and his work we keep getting pulled over here and here by these conspiracy theories by the latest outlandish report and we have to deal with it because it's it's out there here guys let's go over to my article this is up at ask dr. Brown org you'll it'll be on other websites through the day today and tomorrow be be posted spoiler alert there will be no change of power on March 4th all right that's the title of the article and and I want to take you into it and and tell you why I what why I'm bringing this up why I'm even talking about this so last Friday I tweeted I was asked by a reporter today if I knew of any major Christian leaders who are peddling the QAnon conspiracies honestly the only ones I could think of are fringe however the talking points of Q seemed to have filtered down into many within the body do you agree so that was my tweet so so here's some of the responses I got yes I agree the talking points of Q have filtered down into many within the body and it's sad and another ex Trump supporter I tried warning about it on Facebook including your page you have loads of those following you they quote Bible scriptures with their conspiracies but that is how Satan works mixed truth with lies I woke up I was met with fierce pushback when speaking truth here's another I'm an elder at a small church in the Midwest and QAnon ideas are embraced by close to one fourth of the congregation another yes I have it in my church and my church is healthy and somewhat educated very strange another actually Michael I found a lot of family and friends getting involved in these kinds of ideas largely because they don't trust the media at all left or right not even Fox News that leaves the door open for the QAnon types to be their source of news and then regarding March 4th that there'll be this alleged transfer of power one woman tweeted this we found out on Sunday that a member of our church believes that Trump will take over on March 4th through violent means it was surprising and distressing he is not a violent man so friends this stuff is out there I'm gonna give you some headlines surveys Christian leader on Facebook take what he has to say about the military first let's go to your your calls and again it if you support this if you believe this tell us why obviously I'm gonna dispute what you have to say but I'm not gonna mock you I'm not asking you to call to set you up for mockery but I will challenge your viewpoint all right so let's uh let's take some calls and we'll start with Ryan in La Jolla California welcome to the line of fire thank you dr. Brown for taking my call you are I I really am broken over what I do perceive to be a spirit of delusion that has taken over much of the body of Christ and my question is in the aftermath when all of these dates pass and it is clear that the reality is that Trump will not take office how from a spiritual warfare standpoint should we pray for the members of the body who have fallen prey to the spirit of delusion and and what should we do in terms of outreach or what type of posture should we take in order to help those who in my opinion are not out outlandishly attempting to defame Christ or defying his his body but are simply the victims of a spirit of delusion so that's my that's my question is what what will what do you think is going to be the aftermath of this spirit of delusion and how can we help those of our brothers and sisters who have fallen prey to it yeah thank you for asking and let me put people in to say three different categories there are those who already are disoriented disillusioned their faith has taken a real hit they're even questioning the reality of the other things they believe in other words if I could be so wrong on this maybe I'm wrong on other things so you have that group then you have others that are just gonna kind of well whatever and go on with business as if nothing happened and then you have others who will continue to entrench themselves and and step into full-blown delusion refusing to be accountable refusing to listen to reality so starting with them you pray that God would deliver them from deception and you clearly call out the error right so I as a leader will clearly call out that error will try to reach people that I know privately but otherwise if they're people I don't know which is basically the case there's no one I'm close to that is still proclaiming this this way but you you call it out and you pray for a rude awakening in their lives those that just kind of want to put this under the rug and just go on it's like no no no I hang on it's almost like someone driving down the road they they lose track of what they're doing for a second they see a text message and they smash a few cars that are parked in the side then they drive on no you you don't drive on even though you didn't maliciously do it you don't just drive on so for those people you want to pray that they would have the courage to recognize their error you sit down and say okay I'm not here to condemn you we've all made mistakes in different ways but we have to talk about this because you were so sure and you were guaranteeing it you're it now you just want to skip on you I know we we need to have a serious talk and then for the first group that's really hurting we need to we need to go back to things like I've been saying for months leading up to this let's separate the Bible the Word of God the infallible Word of God the test it Word of God the absolute authority on everything we need for life and godliness let's separate that from failed prophecies from false prophecies from wrong expectations let's separate the two and recognize that God and his word never fail but people make mistakes and that's why prophecy must be tested and that's why the word also says don't despise prophecy because there can be things about it that cause you to despise it so different people coming from different places in prayer I would really be praying for awakening that that people would reckon with truth and that God would give them grace to accept the truth or to repent if they've misled people or had a wrong attitude in it for a real awakening and and look awakenings are never pleasant because you think oh my god look at what I've done or look at how wrong I've been but God gives much grace with it and as we humble ourselves humble yourself in the sight of God he will lift you up he gives grace to the humble so Ryan thank you for the question that's how I would approach it sir thank you sir all right it's six six three four truth let's go to William in Normanton Delaware welcome to the line of fire hi good afternoon god bless yeah hi it was rhetorical question for the church and also I would like to know what you would say about this and I voted for Trump but what if what if Trump would have won again and after him Pence twice and after him Trump junior twice and for the next 30 years right we get we get a church friendly government right but when are we the church is going to change right so so you hit on something interesting and of course that's that's quite a scenario right to think about but but what's happened is this I voted for Trump twice but my own view is that given the state of the church right now and the degree that we were looking to Trump those who voted for him that we were looking to Trump to do so much of what the church is called to do and he's gonna make things happen and to the degree that we had become like him in our nastiness and attacking recklessness and given the fact that all he had been urged to humble himself and listen to counsel in many ways he is not that four more years of Trump could have actually been disastrous for the church in America and this scenario that you you talk about I mean now you're now you're pushing for a situation rather than the emphasis being on we vote for certain politicians but we put 99% of our emphasis on awakening in the church we put 99% of our emphasis on reaching our neighbors with the gospel we put 99% of our emphasis on being salt and light in our communities so we vote that's like this little thing that we do but the big emphasis is on who God wants us to be and how we are to live when we get it it's like 5050 or you're looking to the government to do so much and and the the church is kind of voting and getting behind the government then our priorities are misplaced sir and it's very very dangerous and what ends up happening is that there is tremendous resentment towards the gospel not because of the gospel but because of politics that people end up rejecting the God that we're preaching and the Jesus that we're preaching because they associate that God with a conservative government trying to push them down and force certain things on them so what has to happen has to be this the first change is in us that our emphasis is on our own renewal in God and fulfilling the Great Commission so being disciples making disciples influencing the culture and also voting we got so caught up with politics so caught up with the elections so focused on that that we took our focus off who God wanted us to be and I believe now under a government that's more hostile to some of our values that the church is recognizing okay we have to wake up this on us this is on us if we can get that right then perhaps we can have a leader that will be friendly to things that are important to us but without being such a brute to others in the process but it starts with us thank you great question sir I appreciate it it's the line of fire with your host dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling eight six six three four truth here again is dr. Michael Brown thanks friends for joining us on the line of fire today so there will be no transference of power on March 4th Donald Trump will not be inaugurated he will not take over for Joe Biden or Kamala Harris that will not happen despite the fact that the government is concerned with some of the conspiracy theory out there that people will be coming in violent insurrectionists or who-knows-what and therefore they're having the National Guard on standby until what the second week of March the last thing I read but friends for those that do believe this please can this be the last date please I was hoping January 20th would do it but for many that no no something's still gonna happen people said well wait till March wait now March 4th can this be the last date please you recognize it's not gonna happen look Jesus rose from the dead three days after he died not not thirty years after not three hundred years after not even three months after he said he would be dead for three days and rise he did that happened and and if he didn't rise and it was 30 days later and and now three months later and now three years later okay then he wasn't who he said he was and we wouldn't be here today believing what we believe but he did rise that's reality he did rise and he is alive today and that's that separates our faith from a whole lot of other faiths as reality friends but although this is gonna happen that's gonna happen this leader that it didn't happen with them they're dead they're buried it's over as far as this presidency is concerned it's over as far as Donald Trump coming in whether you think the election was stolen or not it's really not the issue at all I'm just on that present tense reality eight six six three four truth I'm going to the phones momentarily but but look at some of these headlines all right look at some of these headlines religion news.com survey more than a quarter of white evangelicals believe core QAnon conspiracy theory more than a quarter of white angel evangelicals believe it here's a survey or an article on Christianity today Christianity today.com QAnon conspiracies sway faith groups including one in four white evangelicals so responding to the same report but getting into further depth about it not debunking it not dismissing it talking about the phenomenon and my experience on social media confirms this in fact it was so much shocking you know it's like you you get up and tell everyone can you believe people believe this and it's like I believe it I believe it I believe it but not just that how dare you not believe it the moment I began to question these when I question these things I never believed any of the QAnon stuff but when I had a guest on who wrote a book on it James Breville his book QAnon deception it's an eye-opener it's well researched factual in fact James gave out his address his email address on the air on our show and said if you find something factually wrong write to me I don't think anyone's written to him yet book is accurate James is a research scholar in any case in any case the moment we began to talk about I got blasted on our Facebook page from professing Christians this proves you're part of the deep state you're a baby killer you're it's what in the world so if I if I ever questioned how pervasive this was and how cult like it was I stopped questioning it that moment in terms of the pervasive even cult like nature of this here NPR has a story National Public Radio no I'm not looking at NPR for the gospel but they're reporting on things going on in communities around America how QAnon conspiracy is spreading in Christian communities across the u.s. all right you say I don't believe any that what's let's talk to some of our listeners we'll start with Mary in Tucson Arizona thanks for calling the line of fire hi how are you doing well yes so so tell me about your husband okay um my husband completely believes QAnon is totally real everything about it he um he is so into like the Trump I don't even know what you would call it the Trump deception that it's not going to be I hate to tell you this it's not going to be over March 4th because after that it's going to be oh no he's going to run next election oh his daughter is going to run oh you know this this is not over so it's kind of like it's kind of like the Indochina thing you just change it then it's exactly all right so for those that missed the Indochina thing someone prophesied over a wife that she was going to be a missionary to India over a husband who's going missionary China didn't realize it was the same couple and when they confronted him he said no no you're going to Indochina so that the goalposts keep moving the alright so Mary I appreciate you calling and and it's obviously challenging because your husband that you love and respect does he profess to be a Christian he is a Christian but you know what bothers me if you don't mind me saying one more thing he isolates himself he anytime we're trying to speak with him about anything he he wants to just go in front of his computer and watch the videos and he doesn't spend time with us anymore you know and it's all about Trump it's nothing about God anymore all right so Mary obviously we're not just talking about a theory here we're talking about your marriage your husband can I just ask you a couple of questions if you say I don't want to get that specific just tell me but can I ask just your general age range you and your husband where what decade you know 30s 40s 50s 20s where you put yourselves I'm 46 okay 70 okay got it and how how long has he had this tendency to kind of separate himself and get away from just biblical fellowship and that kind of thing and and get into this you're just watching the videos and the Trump stuff how long has that been going on only like the whole Q anon thing started and this whole Trump business started before that it was never like that we spent time together with our kids and every day and we went to church and of course now we don't go to church we watch it online yeah Wow all right I I'm sorry to hear this and folks that are listening and viewing pray for Mary's husband that God would really touch him and open his heart and mind if you had to try to trace this how it started where it started what would you say the internet the internet videos you know it's like it's a form of self-hypnosis brainwashing yeah and when you say he believes the whole thing so that there's basically a pedophile ring led by Bill and Hillary Clinton or whoever and and that Trump was the one appointed to pull this thing down and that he's the still legitimate president's going to come back I mean though does he talk to you about these things yes all the time all the time gets angry that I don't think that I I didn't throw it this last election because I didn't think I I couldn't vote obviously for Biden and I didn't feel like I could vote for Trump I just didn't feel right about that I prayed about it mm-hmm he got very angry it it's just horrible I am I am really sorry to hear this Mary and and this is anything but but something we can just be light about it like how crazy because people somehow people have gotten pulled in and look that's the power of deception the power of delusion that is irrational as it sounds people get pulled in is there any chance he would read a book on QAnon if it was sent to him maybe but I kind of doubt it but you know God can work miracles all the time I never I never dispute that all right so listen Mary stay right there on the line Shelley's gonna get your address and we're gonna send you a copy of James Beverly's book the QAnon deception if you want to give you want to give Shelley your husband's name of course don't say it now but if you want to say that I'll sign it to both of you just so just to try to get him to look at it you know to with the hope that maybe he'll flip through the pages and and then again friends let's really pray it's not just Mary's husband there are a lot of folks in this situation that's why we're talking about this so stay right there it'll just be a minute a Shelley will get to you and we'll send you a copy of the QAnon deception either we'll sign it just to you or if you feel free to give your husband's name this is all private obviously then I'll sign it to both of you and you can say hey here it is with the hope that that he will take it and read it so stay there it'll be a moment before before Mary gets to you eight six six before Mary gets to you before it Shelley gets to you eight six six three four truth let us go to Tony in Greenville South Carolina thanks for calling the line of fire doing well thanks the other day that we've really gotta have the spirit of discernment in the church again today where we know right wrong one that says and as far as the politics we need to focus on the elephant and focus on the lamb again and understand that he's in control that we are in the last day and we need to be out when the lost souls instead of being worried about politics politics don't dictate winning souls when we focus on the land again that's when we get back to what Christianity is about yeah and I just just need to jump in it was it was a bad connection there Tony but I wanted you to get out what you had to say listen politics has an important role we don't just get uninvolved we don't just leave it behind and walk away because then people will be appointed from school board right up to president with policies that are really bad and really harmful and that cost lives and restrict our liberties and we're facing some of those things right now under the Biden administration and directions that that they want to go that could be very dangerous to religious liberties and costly to human lives beginning with babies but we vote but that is not and cannot be our focus that's where my appeal is friends let us recalibrate let us have our own great reset the world's talking about a reset let's let's have a holy God reset in our own lives and those who become obsessed with the latest news and the left and the right following this phone step back let's worship God let's be in the word let's pray about how I can love my neighbor and bless this one and help look America's hurting still the COVID still here and the lockdowns and the economic uncertainties and the upheaval let's be the salt and light let's shine in the midst of the darkness we'll be right back it's the line of fire with your host activist author international speaker and theologian dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling eight six six three four truth here again is dr. Michael Brown jbads dr. Brown stop this Trump bashing you needing attention or what buddy buddy I'm gonna speak the truth in love what's going on with passionate America speak against Trump saying we safe under bond these men have fear it sounds like jbads with all respect looks like you don't have the slightest clue as to what we're talking about not the slightest clue you're listening to someone who voted for Donald Trump twice and then who said there are concerns and there are issues and reservations and because of that we need to be careful not to look to a man in an idolatrous way or make him into a political mess or without him America collapses and I've been fighting the agenda of the left perhaps before you were aware of it so see I mentioned that jbads comment it's on my screen in front of me so it came to my attention but I mentioned because people react emotionally that they're not listening to what's often being said and many people just react emotionally and the moment you say well I differ with someone here they they they they stop hearing so it's a dangerous thing it's very dangerous thing you know I posted an article this morning on stream org that covid vaccine is not the mark of the beast it's not the mark of the beast now I said now you may have real concerns about it government overreach government mandating it you may have concerns about whether it's safe or not it's all I understand all that but it's not the mark of the beast from the book of Revelation through the hundreds and hundreds of comments on our Facebook page about it people say how can you tell me it's safe why are you telling me I should take it why not read the article before commenting on the article you know it's like you're you're a chef excuse me you're you're someone who reviews you know a restaurant reviewer or something and you post a review that restaurant was terrible the food was terrible the decor was terrible the prices were terrible when did you go there I never went there I wouldn't go to a place like that I never went there you never tasted the food never went in the building Brown you're just wrong and ignorant about what well I'm not gonna even bother that's we try to hate all we could do is try to help people right but I'll give you an example about what's going on some of the craziness that's out there all right and and then grab another call or two so this gentleman Johnny Enloe who identifies himself as apostolic and prophetic and he's got a decent internet following I don't know him personally but he's got a decent internet following so listen look at this post and this is a few days back in no particular order the government agencies that recently have failed the US Constitution and its citizens re are the DOJ the FBI Congress the Senate governor state supreme courts state legislators count the election officials and more we are now down to the Supreme Court the military and we the people the Supreme Court has already been a great failure by refusing to even listen until this belated date should they fail today and in a week to legitimately look with justice at the evidence of criminality they will not only put themselves in immense legal treason risk but they will leave the military as the last viable option for retaining our nation upon founding principles some I've had dreams and visions of God working with and through the Supreme Court at this time may it happen if they don't military it will be up to you just like we see happening in the nation of Burma and we know that example is not happenstance you are the last protector of we the people and it will be time to be strong in that defense this is not about politics it is about right versus wrong and good versus evil foreign nations through Manchurian elements may not have this nation as it is as is being attempted right now the ultimate guarantor of America and thus its final safety net is actually God he will ultimately arise with the institutions and individuals that carry justice life or liberty God in this justice or next freedom will reign life will be exalted you the faithful keep believing we will all win with God's coming big win he's not called ruler of the nations for not when I was posted a few days back five point three thousand likes over a thousand comments over a thousand shares and this has been someone prophesying the trip yeah Trump's gonna get it and still prophesying it so now he's basically saying there's gonna have to be a military takeover of America friends this is dangerous stuff and it is infiltrated the church and a dangerous level and yes I will sound the alarm if I lose followers over it fine if we lose financial support over it fine if we get attacked for it fine what use am I if I don't speak the truth what use am I if I'm not a watchman on the wall what use am I if I don't try to bring us back to reality I'm not here for popularity or votes or to get rich I'm here to honor God and serve you and as Paul wrote to the Galatians have I become your enemy by telling you the truth it's wake-up time will you believe me when March 4th comes and goes and nothing happens at what point will you let me just shift it to 2024 well hang on we were told Trump would have two consecutive terms and that Joe Biden would not serve a single day and we were given dates what's gonna happen in December what's gonna happen in January none of those things happened let this be a holy slap the psalmist said let the righteous rebuke me that there be a holy slap in my face paraphrase in the Hebrew it's like oil on my head it's a good thing let reality hit today Fred let that I'm praying even as I speak that I'm not just speaking human words but backed by God's Spirit to help wake you up to reality let us move on together and get about the business of being disciples and making disciples and living productive lives in this world all right over to let's go to Don in Winston-Salem North Carolina thanks for holding welcome to the line of fire my question is recently Donald Trump is on TV I guess he was sort of eulogizing Rush Limbaugh and he still claims that the election was stolen from him which is a lie which is a big lie and my question to you is do you believe that the election was a stolen from Donald Trump because Trump as you remember Trump had the opportunity to denounce you or not he didn't he's a vile individual but somehow you support him he's very vile very wicked done did you can I just ask if you voted for Joe Biden so you don't you don't consider his his baby-killing policies vile and his attack on religious freedoms vile question okay all right so so hang on just just because we're having a problem with with the connection okay you had your reasons for voting I have my reasons for voting there's a lot about Donald Trump's personality in ways that I despise that I think are dangerous and destructive that's number one number two I preferred him to Joe Biden because of pro-life policies because of religious freedom policies because of standing with Israel policies because of standing against the evils of China policies those are human rights issues that is people's blood as people's life those are babies in the womb I care about those things I care about those things deeply as a god-fearing man so given that choice I voted for Trump but I've grave concerns about damage Trump did and I've grave concerns about damage that that Joe Biden's already doing and I pray for both of them to really encounter God in a significant way that's that's number one so please sir sounds a little hypocritical when you attack me for voting for Trump even though I always raise reservations and concerns it sounds a little hypocritical if not for the fact we were getting feedback I'd be having this conversation back and forth but it's impossible for people to hear okay that's that's number one number two it seems that there were some irregularities in the election whether it was stolen or not I don't know but Joe Biden is the president that's the fact he is the president it went through the courts that's our system I respect our system Joe Biden is my president so that's the reality am I pushing that the election was stolen this is really my concern because I believe we prayed and God ordained that Joe Biden would be our president so there there were irregularities I'd like to I'd like to see those answered because there's not a lot of voter confidence in some circles right now but I have never been one that pushed the idea that the election was stolen my PhD is in Near Eastern languages and literatures I do research by looking at original texts in their language in context and these things can often take years to decipher and understand so I'm not gonna sit from a distance and make judgments about the elections but what I've said consistently sir what I've said consistently is I trust that as we have prayed for God's outcome I trust our court system I trust the outcome of our courts and the courts did not see evidence to overturn the election therefore I accept that so I accept the outcome of the election with Joe Biden is our president all right I'd encourage you if you have time sir and and again I would I'd love to have the conversation back and forth but we're having a problem either on our end or your end but just want to say this if you have time read my book evangelicals at the crossroads will we pass the Trump test I think you'll find that we have a lot more in common if you're a follower of Jesus as well evangelicals at the crossroads hey thank you thank you for the call and Zach in Denver can you weigh in with your thoughts in a few seconds can you do it absolutely go ahead so yeah my thoughts as far as the prophecy can concerning Trump or really concerning anything has what I've seen is looking at the roof you know a lot of people you know believing one way or the other Trump will save America and God's will will be done so it has to be true because you know we don't want this evil or that evil and when you take that to the root it's based in fear yep it's based in fear and it's based in you know God is sovereign so we have to fix this rather than God is sovereign right so I thank you for getting in we're out of time but I wanted you to hear that ask yourself if a lot of your reaction a lot of what you believe is based on fear and a reaction from fear rather than reaction from faith well done Zach you've got it in right under the gun back with you tomorrow and I ask you again have I become your enemy by telling you the truth