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January 29, 2022 12:00 pm
Mark and Ren share case reports from one of their foreign operating teams in Africa and explain why quick justice isn't necessarily a good thing.
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Honestly, as we had a 2022 I get a little insight into how we are managing a command center spot where rent goes out right that others one way that we've been able to accomplish is that we have operators of US and foreign operators task force that we built.
Now around the world and we met just how exciting is that something sustainable that these people are working without us there. Now you talk we got American operator in the country right now, but today show to talk about an operating team that is in Africa doing great work.
One of the ways that we control. That is, daily reporting and contact the enemy were in the state that about timing is just a notion such a complete conversation all the time and I wanted to take time in the show to give you an idea of some of the case reporting that we've gotten better. Africa is something that just a heart situation that were involved in right now.
Our team is in Africa so she got your little bit about that women and will take the show from there handed over to you talk about what Frank is involved in right now know where counting on what happened not believe that our team Africa proper girl at the corner there with them usual relationship and they started gaining questioning and talking about wanting Trenton and not that she would be traffic cited man so the way there. He quickly get target file today when she started they would be yesterday thinking that recently went to that Giants. She was crying and she had been at the ranch and collapse in the courtroom medical care now and will be going forward. There was like the trafficking is in itself a grotesque and horrible thing and no care. They truly do not know the right apartment not taking care of. They don't hire where they live or die. While clearly we can be praying for this poor person. Can you come to share how you guys engage in. I should comment on that. You may choose well. But the maybe good listeners that type of operation so yes or operations where we do operational planning and we work at night, undercover operations, Ameritrade nightclub tactical move in this particular case of what rate is describing a listers in that situation so we have a task force largely in that region of the world and Africa and they are working portions of the border and in high-traffic areas, 20 major cities that will be moving in different directions to keep smugglers and traffickers from knowing exactly where were going, but so you went too much with their moving in different places when they position themselves there for day.
This would be a typical border crossing. Well, if anybody's travel to make singular border crossings you can imagine the chaos and all is happening there. What are task force agents are trained to do. Sometimes they lay low.
Sometimes the uniform sometimes there back from the order on either side. Sometimes the right at the point of crossing, but they are looking for suspicious activity of someone who is chairing a minor across most often in these countries that's in a vehicle like a motorcycle and many times on foot and maybe as renters describe some of the cases in the past about this regional sometimes the smugglers are working for traffic.
They know the call so they'll tell the victim the child say this or go across by yourself or tell them your father. Or stated on your and all the excuses they prepare their story, so I cast for status are looking for this and there there working hard. They're not sitting in a nice office there working along streets working outside and eat and then when they see that there trained to intercept that vehicle safely and that does take some tactical skill and they set up a real skill that happens from there is the interrogation process and so are key people there do a great job more costly. Helping them improve them, but they have to separate those people and begin the interrogation process between the adults in the minors. They got to be savvy because they don't speak multiple languages you know the region of the world they got to know what's happening in major cities around them. They gotta be able to make phone calls into those regions to confirm that gullibility takes all calls from people they got a bill look to the cell phone. They gotta be able to make you know, called an act like somebody else because sometimes at this point the victim is so scared that they are lying. Joe almost perfectly makes it probably is there no there there lying because they're scared to death or they believe their smuggler and trapper. They believe they are going to a job or education or school when you know that's all true. So in that moment. Our involvement is to determine the courage and then to make into to build the case a referral to a law enforcement that we train there and she know what a department that cannot.
It works with us, an agency that works with a loan that that region the world so that's that's kind of our involvement. Now you with the sticker case that rents talk about our people are either good and loving people. I need to get involved in everything they end up you know, for Americans to understand social services and all of them wind up you know, helping the victim get to court. You know sometimes we get we provide for their needs and assist the social services in the country during this time of investigation.
Give me so that that's can't help that operation. In this case.
At this point is how that works. So I'm probably at it, give people an idea you talk about next week will be able to talk about some operations elsewhere their current more aggressive reports more aggressive. There just you know more more tactical in nature and may involve a gear and a lot of things. This involves human intelligence is about people who are in the right place at the right time with the right knowledge of the right ability to intercept the train. In that is a fruitful work literally every week any place outside of working the trafficking rings that are in the capitals or the trafficking rings that are tied to foreigners.
You could go to the border and I can almost guarantee you that you a high rate of interception and rescue because such as the focal point is just us just what's happening around the world crossing. You've got agents that are obviously trained to look for this in and then respond in the in the situation and then they have the connections in law enforcement. Obviously IQ is documented in this case. I mean, the judge was involved almost immediately right in the world that particular country using the ball very quickly and the main difference between our operation. They think Africa and operation in Asia and Africa reactionary team.
They're planning to be confident when they're in their name from their operation going out and getting different. They're more of a mobile team moving Untreated working yes so we got more coming up in just minutes was our international reports and updates we get a chance to speak with you as a base organization that conducts international rescue operations for people suffering from human trafficking lantern specializes in sending former US special operations law enforcement and intelligence personnel department with hallucinations and assist them in reading specialized units combat ongoing security from genocide, terrorism is a nonprofit charity.
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Ran the whole idea of justice and judgment and those kind of things.
There's there's two sides of that coin right now in America will now you find where very quick fairly good thing. And like when you were a kid show you something. Cracking on a couple how did you get all the you never learn that when people are getting so quickly that only take corrective action within 48 hours online 24 hours and with particular country or a new will will live show me the reason Jimmy how you show me you international Trafficking it hard to them like that make it more difficult for people to follow and figure out okay will try and figure it out when reading fairly everything and be healed and turning on rang and making a deal any time. I'm happy working ring. He had no incentive to click on know you're okay will I don't think Martha dragged out a little longer in your putting pressure on it more likely to cooperate break the chains at a higher level rather than low-level guys quickly into prison and freedom can around 90 different level operation. You're not willing to communicate with them or have a longer opportunity to cooperate, you're not able to get the high-level guy that we see in every country that they rush to make a conviction is sometimes a bigger fish close it up on the case without success and tremendously valid point in the intelligence gathering of know after this smuggler captured and what we can do all we can find out that sometimes we don't get to because that person fairly maliciously. Although an argument can be made quickly because maybe I wrapped up in Boston I get everything that generally another reason that more common in Third World country they live they live with, but immediately trying to figure out how to write each day a lot of time not longer vision of what looked like that luxury. Delete doing. I think back and think about think they have to live.
They don't know what looked like a consciously thinking about when the applicant may they're unaware Mary click reactionary mind thinking through training and I think probably more for a reason to not terribly well. People always you know whatever, we see the really horrific the bigger picture more people you can help more linking time and I know what a wonderful thing that God provided this experience to all these different countries because they turned you for training and and so obviously not just have an opportunity to train the operatives but you know with your legal stuff now (you're able to give them no information in their justice system, front another country where the writing. It all just guidance and architect that we implement the day one of the nonprofit getting the country and the people of the tool to help end of the day they have to buy and make that choice on the unit by making them the tool and the reasons why we think is it time is we can pray along those lines that these countries will adopt this wisdom and what an opportunity that is first, obviously see all the all the fruit of God so if you got some more updates for smart following up with what you're about you that we do have some countries the system is it is duplication of the US are further down the road but then sometimes we have the flipside problem is is that you're trying to do everything so right, so correct that the prosecution doesn't move forward or you know it lends itself to corruption because things are moving so slow that we briefly adding one country we had 17 girls are girls of Spanish country in a house that was being represented is for sale and whatever undercover agents went to that house buyer of the home discovered female Chuck females in the whole one of them said say I hope he finds out he buys us to realize immediately. Okay, wait, this is a holy place. Her girls were drafted so you build the case and presented it to the prosecutor, the local prosecutor who continues well. I need this I mean that you know continued nitpick what he needed to bring a level that allowed her to contact the owner of the home and say you're building a case against this, you better get rid of the girls so that the layer prosecution or the ability for them to so know you have enough right you have an upfront really floated all down to 17 girls disappeared in the house was basically close down right so you know they're there.
Those things also get into a country that has no laws in place of the Penal Code and things like entrapment become an issue. Sovereignty becomes an issue. The transfer of information when it comes to entrapment.
This is when we run into all the time countries have a better judicial system and I understand it, but we did have one situation where we were a team undercover and they were usually minor elements facility and they were being offered girls, but one of the undercover agent said what do you have any minor girls.
Well, at that point hold that whole case is thrown out because now he introduced the need for liners and that would be considered entrapment rather would have to say no I don't want any of the girls I can get that in America. What else do you have in the moment the tracker says a lot got some young girls minor girl now now now it is not entrapment you have that you have those situations where I Marv my team and all its were trying to understand all countries at all levels judicial system and how it's working. What we can and can't do so description talk to people that are going the wrong station but it is really important that those who are you're concerned about that.
That year the show and understand the spectrum that were working things to you made a comment to me that the day when were talking Mark was that you don't want to create a need for these people, you know, they'll go out and find what you asked for in those kind of situation. So, actually, some of those laws are pretty good if you're selling heroin. No crack you'll have it you'll find it right so very careful that we don't ever do that we have to have the right intelligence. Got a note can we have the minor girls. Trust me, that smuggler will go get minor girls. His knees and his cousins and grabs a girlfriend who knows where and how you created the problem and see some organizations do that will fall.
You know they shouldn't do that.
So we'll do that and you know it comes down to good undercover work and felt your thoughts, and a lot better entrapment mining country now when we start working on their property.
I asked them for copy lot jail. Not only are we trying to train and tactically printed correctly from their point of our American plant will cochair and help them out. That way without causing a document like Michael talking about that I was always last night Mark was thinking how amazing is it for my perspective that that you guys are able to do so much the right way that you work to create a legal way to get people from one place to another place to to create a legal way for people to get caught, and then obviously you know create a situation where you go after the bigger fish on an international level on all sorts of things together care so much about those repressed and those victims, girls and boys that he would take a group of people such as we thought they were here and there is no good.
A lot of things are great in any one thing, and God would put us altogether and continue to have the right people continue expanding with us as individuals know and it is deftly got so do you have sort of a sentencing update for us as we will have a couple minutes left yummy knowledge to we got some antacid shows coming up next week work participating later participate in a coalition of some really key players around the world. Despite the counteracting and were honored to be invited to the table.
Coalition and out of that word have some great conversations with different folks that were put on the show and tell you little bit about some really good stuff that's happening in America and how that will be supporting us overseas and how excited we are about that.
What I think the next LX that we might do a couple shows that we got out. So I think the report shows like this pergola search don't get our fellows about it and it's their intense transfer needs is his hearing more more about what's going on 2022 really seems to be here that we may be praying this day and will look forward to all this, this is the Truth Network