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June 6, 2020 3:00 pm
TC and his wife, Lynn, discuss family life, their joint mission of working against human trafficking, and TC's time in law enforcement.
Welcome to lantern risk. A ministry program dedicated to bringing light into the darkness of human trafficking. It's time to light the way to freedom. This is lantern rest.
We tell the stories we talk about arrestees and we empower you to do something about it was once said, let it not be said I was silent when they needed this welcome to lantern rescue and where like that up today I'll tell you with lantern, as we've had this group in the studio and got to know the families that make up the team of lantern rescue. They go in and and do is a tactical aspects of that and actually I know there's one of these, that if you're the host you had a chance to spend time with all these different families that you like.
I'm wondering about this guy, you know, because everybody else seems quite vocal, but in and in and but then there's always the guy that you like. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes there. So where we got TC and his wife Landon and yet if you list the previous episode of the wives. Oh my goodness. The story that Lynn told about her own in opportunity to minister to people involved in sex trafficking and Thailand wasn't limp. What a story, so we may get into that a little bit more but we today we get to find out what's behind TC so welcome TC hello and so and I'm definitely curious of you what's what goes in the background of how God was taking TC and and and and and maybe in your own salvation story or maybe in your occupation story where you think that that that training really say for long time so part of part of my makeup I think is just never really liked the boy never really liked people who could not fend for themselves to be taken advantage of. Even when I was young I would eventually going to law enforcement and actually the organization I worked for was a sister organization to Allen's organization so he was on the penal side. I was actually feeding people into his system so we didn't know that until later section of my me asking it even where my father hated the bully to say that he aided the bully would almost be an understatement.
And it was something I was brought up with, because there was something in his story. The reason he hated a bully and so I can't help but be curious.
Is there something in your own life, but that that you experience that nationally actually know I really wasn't the bullying type I just just in my DNA. Regards, given 799 and I mean when you wrote.
Can you imagine when you're 10 or 11 years old you saw somebody being bullied and you jumped in note that I can say that.
Sorry, that's okay.
I'm just curious why my I grew up from and I you know the American Christian would sometimes ask.
Sometimes it's a great thing.
Sometimes it's a little bit on silver Spanish by maybe the world's standards, but I grew up great had a great home didn't know abuse snowballing none of that, but it really that kind of environment where directing the launchpad to do things that Anna, my dad used to say a couple things.
It was between the same thing redundantly said, but he said be sure you're right. Go ahead, or it's always right to do the right thing and so for me that was the baseline to do things that were either scary or dangerous or out there by some people standing so I always move forward with that and sizing as a Christian and with those that was my launchpad to do more so Lynn how old are you guys when you met so is our first year and Bible college, I would've been thanks 17 advisors to get a story. They know how to what is now. We met on the basketball court. I was boxing him out and he kinda thought I was legal fees. Jango and I thought about how you are you yeah you are you out there reinventing people.
When I first darted dating him.
They really, why are you dating him. He looks so mean as a Gdansk network does. Does any I see a teddy bear and I think this is.
He has a heart for people. And you would never know that just looking at him and he got to know him that in our family.
He's the easy-going teddy bear and I'm not. I'm not the nice one now here is that you know as I was saying. He is the one I was gonna wonder what's going on behind the you know the headlights there that you know if your car guy under the hood and I what's going on. He's attending so but interestingly even heard people tying other testimonies and and at some point time, your faith became real to you. It was no longer father's and and and and so can you take us back to what that felt like for you in your life. So I was saved super young like five if you can remember being five actually think about that sometimes I really so and being young like that.
I got saved." I got saved about a thousand times more and I really really really really want to get Sadie really mean at this time. So I did a lot of that. But I never really had a falling away per se got to get you guys going to Bible school that is in the a pastor for about couple years and I'm like Anna Morgan according to the cop thing. Sally jumped in the law enforcement from her at which is a righteous kind of inner direction to go in. So when you were in your career that is similar to what you're talking about with Alan digit did you see God's involvement at that point in the union that the I'm never my my legs is neither Christian or secular. I don't have that I don't have a dichotomy met mine is it's it's a Christian life and and surely I do this all do II sang and have many weakness and things like that but my job but my career was just my life. My Christian life. It's it's what I did. I loved it from seismic parole and so the actual helmet prepare me for what I'm doing now is I was more of a street rat where Allen's crew is highly trained in synchronizing things like that.
I have the training we do billing clearing but I rolled for five guys. We dressed like smocks and we would hit houses and chase fugitives and run the streets and running the bars, which is a lot of what we do now side.
I chased kids all over certain city and the rest of them and took him to jail and sent Lynn Wallace is going on where you similar to Tammy that your thinking and him got God made my husband for more than this or where you think he was right in his call.
I think he is right and is calling Emily first heard about trafficking. Like you said we knew we are going to do it. Somehow, someway, someday and were just waiting for the right time to to pull the pin and he was struggling to continue with a full-time job and be able to have enough time off to go out of country and rescue so he was working constantly to get enough hours in to be able to take time off and it was just hard on everyone because he was working so many hours so he stopped his full-time job as of January 1 of this year and while accident that led to courageous move.
I imagine for your family.
I'll yeah I'm a planner and I like I'm the budget person and so yeah I was like scared to death in a way that God grown my faith in ways I can't, I would have never learned. I think and is teaching me all kinds of stuff that is the essence of the TC.
You saw your wife when she came home from her time it was a Taiwan, Thailand, Thailand will start with tie.
Finally, I'm sorry but so she came home from Thailand and like oh my goodness you saw what this did for heart that that play into your where you felt God was leaving you essentially what you thought your wife's heart. We have as a family taking this on. We've adopted a couple girls and so it's it's really the family's way she with the Thailand highly encourage that. But she also she volunteers her to organizations here in the states where she does things and help them raise money in a supportive of antitrafficking efforts right here in the state so when is doing a ton of things even just the stability of the home for family members told kids in the house so the stability of all that sometimes doesn't seem as glamorous as jumping on a plane, but the stability in the work that she does is nonstop so so wow I was nowhere. You have tells about those children. So we have two adult kids that are grown and married and have children and we have two adopted girls from Ethiopia, so we've had them for nine years and I don't know I guess we feel like we they were in a failed adoption and needed a home right away and so we feel like it was a rescue through adoption. Yeah, and we met them on a Sunday and Wednesday.
They were living with us. I hardly had time to get the room painted and figure out my life and looked in.
I had curly hair and all kinds of stuff coming into the house and I had no idea how to deal with and it was quite a thing is quite a thing.
But we love and we love our girls and their awesome and so can you describe a little bit about your role now with these other organizations so I volunteer at events I sell the jewelry and homemade goods that women out of the country make to earn a living, so that they don't have to go back into that industry. So I do, parties, dinners, benefit dinners, whatever I can do. I'm on the list to they can call me.
I take gifts to some of the girls at work in the local clubs like you did and what you did in Thailand where you cannot hear you can do here. You can do that here and so is there an organization you do that with. I do things with peace, promise.
I do things with. She's somebody's daughter and women at risk international those three cell piece, promise, and she's somebody's daughter, both local to where we live, and they have different events that go on throughout the year at that's wonderful, that's just amazing what I have a lady that I interviewed what used to be a madam and and she ended up going to Turkey and get involved. This huge drug deal and she ends up in Turkish prison.
Somebody smuggles in the Bible. She gets converted and then she now does that work where she goes into nightclubs because she understands that the level that you know I know of of what really all the evil that's involved in that and and interestingly, there is evil on both sides that I wasn't aware of until I talked to her that you have the evil of the man that are obviously taken advantage of the women but the women are taking advantage of the men, often introducing member drugs and stuff to get them hooked so they just keep coming back for the and so that we talked about the women trafficking to see if you guys run into where men were getting trafficked in some way or other, will been to five countries to do the work for those arrested in the first one the first hundred been to a couple times Pakistan and so that was more labor trafficking.
We saw little bit more than that, but basically, in effect, those there were families there were men there who were being trafficked there at least a part of a massive concerted effort to keep them enslaved.
So in that sense, yes. McNutt's of just one little boy another country events if it was was into the sex slave industry audit (Morland and rescue #some lights with TC and Lynn faith-based organization that conducts international rescue operations for people suffering from human trafficking. Leonard specializes in sending former US special operations law enforcement and intelligence personnel department with host nations and assist them in reading specialized units combat ongoing security, genocide, terrorism and human track is a nonprofit charity. They offer services free of charge. Human trafficking is thrown into the second largest elected human world reaching an estimated $50 billion in annual activity lantern rescue was developed rapidly to combat track and operates through a train international network in order to rescue women and children, sex and labor slavery and facilitate ballistic gearing up for operations right now and you can go to lantern with a large see how you can support welcome back to lantern rescue.
Today we are blessed to have the whole team with us in the studio but specifically PC is my Flynn and insight foundation of what got together in his heart human track and so you know the stories it is very intriguing to me that you referred the first segment is TC reach this tipping point of lemon to quit my job like what Edwards and find fascinating is I'm listening to both sides of the story. If you're me you like will lens the one who said that this friend came over and gave her this advice, but then she can you kinda take us to that point Lynn that we had. We had friends that live in New York City and work with the homeless people there and they had done something similar and just just went and did it and he can't he send us you guys have been standing on the edge of the table for years now, but you're not jumping off in yeah it that's not faith. So you need to jump off the table and start doing what you know God wants you to do and so that's I said it TC I'm finally jumping off the table, but can we just know that you have a part-time job away for your full-time job. Can you just please have something and he didn't. He jumped often. I went with them in so here we are, so to see obviously you have a side to that story you were reading a book.
There was a reading a book that was recommended to me by my brother called all the places you go by John Warburg and it's about open doors. I'm actually my Christian life. I've always struggled with the open-door theology because you can turn a door and an open or closed them all kinds of cool things but really brought it back to Scripture and how you know Jesus talking to churches in the beginning of Revelation in a set book.
Here's things you do here is and it is these opportunities in so was very very clear to me to get my behind going in rescuing and starting to friend the other day you look men you've always been a restless soul because you that guy is always something around an expander on the next corner, which sometimes drives Lynn crazy but is true and so I know part of that restlessness is a God-given thing that I stopped worrying about in regard don't bow and I want to and out.
They say that when you burn the ships behind you, like you know you have landed that that there you go. Now your values done it at at and I die host no-show called King of pursuits in which his house got take your passion and used to build the kingdom and in some way times I see somebody this partnerships and said okay now this is what I feel like you put on my heart to go to, you know, here we go. And so here we our six months for five months into this adventure so as to where we got really Lynn, where, when, I can give you examples because I started keeping a notebook and I is I just never my faith has never had to be tested like and we've always had a paycheck coming into the bank account and so I started painting and cleaning to make money and I enjoy painting, enjoy cleaning.
You don't have to be supersmart to do it, but there's a lot of people who don't live painting or cleaning so I've been shocked at his own word-of-mouth and I just keep getting calls and I quote a job and I I start to like people. The men I talked to them and so that I don't quote them when I'm supposed to quote them, and I quote, and way under and they know that and so when I'm done with the job.
They say you know here's an extra thousand because you really should have charged us 1400 and you only charges 400 and that kind of stuff happens all the time like I think I'm going to make 200 and I make seven I and that's just got this just died. Doing that for us about you to say what have you seen financially.
You now as it is a result this that you know you jumped in our soot was served on one of the earlier shows that just because God causes something, doesn't mean it will be easy and simple. And it is not, nor is it supposed to be, unfortunately I think it's a bit of an American Christian idea that you know which it should make sense and should be a straight line in a clear path. This is not the case is not supposed to be the case.
And so it hasn't been no wheat we got going early on had exit quite busy for a while and then the new world" pandemic that we find ourselves and has changed things and I at times have been at least massively frustrated with what I'm able to do. I'm like okay God did you not only to do this in gum supposed to get some kind of a special flyer to go around the world to stop so I've had to. I've had to rest in Jesus's control and why. And so yeah I'm landscaping again by word-of-mouth and doing work and it's been great and I can come and go as I please. With those organizations which is hard to find. To do so. God has really and in one of the things God has said is what are you willing to do to rescue. Are you willing to give up the badge and pick up a shovel they willing to do that in order to help people and bad places and so I have a zillion ton of ego the gods trimming off so it's continuing to get trimmed yet is FF and by having experienced his handiwork with the scissors. It yeah you know the beauty of it, though obviously if if you could see their eyes, which I can as you can see it in her that they've seen something God has shown them something you know in in the hearts of the people and in you now can you go back to that, but the scene in the in the bar with the pole dancers and there's the madam and can you come to take us back in there live in the in and share with us what you saw what I thought the madam would be angry at us for having the girls come down and not working but she was actually right over there with us and wanted her gift bag as well and we put lotion on her hands and feet as well.
She was just older and pastor prime so she couldn't. That's not how she earn money anymore so I just feel like no matter how old you are, where you've been. In life you just somebody they just want someone to love them, so she just she wanted hugs as well and we we buy drinks for everybody coaxing whatever and spend money so that she wouldn't get in trouble and you shall not that's that's how we get again in order for our battle is not against flesh and blood in it so hard just to keep that in mind that that it these people are deceived and semi-different prisons. That we can get ourselves into. And like Mark said in that one episode that in only by the grace of God I find myself in entrapped in some of the stuff that these people have put up we know you only you have your stories to add some wondering because it is love asking questions like this if when you're on the street going after parolees to remember a time that like God clearly said this one's for me to see my story that actually made me famous or infamous, depending on which side of the community. The renter I worked a buddy and I were out one night looking for and absconded. He was sound out and he was is all strapped in a gun strapped up as we would say we rolled up. He was actually on the corner talking disseminate and my partner and I got out and, having cornered will heat you got in a car is doing driveway so I stepped in front of the car to keep him from leaving the put it in drive and started bump on my knees and he was gonna run me over so I jumped on the head of the car and he took me three blocks about 50 miles an hour before I get off so that was that, made the news there and that was the thing for a while. I've seen it on Starsky not from pretty sure this is interestingly enough, my partner and I were actually called that in the place right works and so I just picture this scene right here at your hold on for dear life and he's obviously you know did he get apprehended on me. We got to know what happened while I honestly I'm this probably isn't good for Christmas. I was going to shoot him exit on a member of our ticket. Every listener can see one at the time I was a Pemex during my guns is actually laying on my pistol and every time I would go to reach where he would check the will and were literally like literally face-to-face. He finally stopped, let me off in the week.
We thought we actually caught them later. Yet she spit my face right before the arrest. On the Oregon he still in federal penitentiary to limit get this stuff and see all my goodness he stops and let you off. What is that feel like like okay you get off now and and what what you mean.
He stopped and let you off the literally stop through four blocks later, my partner and commandeered a car use, trying to catch since he was yelling at me and also to do something once or what but anyways we were actually trying to track and we had reconvened got more law enforcement are going to get me actually showed up. We we did we do after that.
And then he spits in your face lacked. And so what if God had for you at them handcuffs. As you get this final truth. Here are my interest is interestingly enough, so that the twisting that story resist his family, but usually being prejudice because of all of that which I thought was incredulous that you got investigated because of those claims to my employer which I guns are exonerated and things like that but you as has been said just because you're doing the right thing doesn't mean that assemblies exist. It's not supposed to be that way and it is so when he comes home at night and hunting and I believe what happened. You remember that night I I remember all of that happening and I was, I think I thought was pretty cool. I mean I kid I was picturing the whole thing in my head I was guiding get run over.
So we had to jump on our yeah yeah what he and I do what he can do and I can hold on and on. So if you listening your ear you can save it as a certain amount of bravery that comes with faith like wow if you going to step off and in and in take this on for real it's can it take courage and you can hear how God made is been well met up in the team of lantern rescue and so you know what what what does that look like in mind in a goblet will what what you want me to know.
Step off the table as Lynn put it in her lap. How is it that I can engage clearly we know we can be an engaging in prayer for TC Lynn and in on the entire lantern rescue team. But what is rest of that look like it's it's an amazing thing to go on these adventures with God and it won't be used by fan, I can assure you the exciting and you know it brings life brings life and so remember what lantern rescue.org are so grateful for you listed today and let us take us all the ventures to see with God to rescue those