This is the Truth Network. Oh, how fun today on Kingdom Pursuits. I haven't talked to you guys all year.
Just said, you know, what? I never want to resist that joke. But anyway, we have with us a really, really great guest today. Dr. Sam Blumenthal has written his second installment of Once Upon a Time, a collection of short stories for those trying to find their way home, Volume Two. And so, Dr. Sam Blumenthal, great to have you on.
Great to have you too. You crack me up too. I've got a good friend who loves to tell jokes. And it's really funny when he tells a joke that makes him laugh.
That's my personal secret is if I laugh hard enough, I can get somebody else to laugh occasionally. But I do love it. But I love the idea of homegoing. And in so many different ways, which we'll get into throughout the show. But obviously, this is your second installment. And, you know, I really just am enthralled by the title. And how did you isolate that as kind of the idea of what you're writing about?
Well, I really think it's the gospel and, you know, Tim Keller and others kind of formed this organization called the Gospel Coalition, which have a website, you know, and, and one of the things that they teach is a teaching thing that is what they have come to call the four chapter gospel, which I really think is just the gospel, but it really helps to see it as one whole story, because it has to do with everything. Our purpose, why are we here? Why did God create us? How did we get to where we are? Why are we so fallen?
We weren't made that way. So I mean, just understanding like from the garden, how it was before the fall, then what sin did to us when the fall happened. We're kind of in this middle time, especially as believers with God's redemptive grace, you know, working through us in the Holy Spirit through, through Christ and what he did on the cross, but, you know, it's one day it's going to come completely full circle. And we're going to almost like being back in the garden again with before the fall at the end of times. And so it's, so I think we're all, yeah, it's kind of like, you know, the subtitle is a collection of short stories for those trying to find their way home. I think as Christians, we're more aware of that.
Yeah, C.S. Lewis talked about these things probably better than anybody else. It's like, we have this longing we can't describe, and it's really for the garden that we've lost, and that one day will be restored, you know. Yeah, and so actually the phrase, the movie, Patch Adams at the very beginning, he's doing this, he's narrating and he goes through this litany of, you know, everybody, no matter who you are and all these categories of people, it's trying to find their way home.
There's so many, like, you can never get permission for using song lyrics or dialogue in movies, you know, which is frustrating because a lot of, a lot of my stories have been at least partially inspired by, and I've kind of wanted to give credit, and you just can't, so I end up having to paraphrase stuff. You know, again, the story is, yeah, I heard that movie, you know, it's like, oh, that's so good, trying to find our way home, you know. So I don't know if you've listened to my show before, Sam, but you know, part of what we do actually at the beginning, always for our listeners, which they love this part, is we kind of take the idea and we play some shenanigans. So, you know, speaking of home.
It is time to play shenanigans. And so, you know, since the topic is home, and again, we're going to get to a riddle here shortly that you can call in and win, but before that time I get a chance to, you know, badger Dr. Sam and say, what job occupation never wants to work at home? Have you thought about that? There is an occupation out there that never wants to work at home.
Do you know what that is? Stump the panel, pretty easy. I had to give Nick this. I never did good with the whole riddle contest that went on between Bilbo and Gollum, you know. It's like, I would have flocked every single one.
This one, the occupation that never wants to work at home is firefighters. They don't like to do that. So you like this one, Nick?
Here you go. It's a five-minute walk from my house to the merry-go-round. It's a 30-minute walk back. What's the difference? Oh my God. You're in a loop.
It's staggering. That's good. Here's one for you. I think this one's easy, Nick.
I think you can do it. I know I've taught you over the years, you know, how to finally understand these. So what are you when someone steals every light in your home? What are you when someone steals every light in your home? You want to try that one, Dr. Sam? I don't know. You're in the dark. Close, close. You are in the dark, but you're also delighted.
Usually I don't go political, but this one was so funny, I could not use it. So what did Trump say to Biden when he bumped into him in the hallway of the White House? Oh, boy. You're awake. You're awake. He said, pardon me. That's good. Oh, wow. Yeah, like the seal.
Trump bumps into Biden. Anyway, his son did the same thing later on. Yeah. So here's another one. You know, one more before we get to the actual, what do you get when a giant steps on your house, on your home? What do you get when a giant steps on your home, Nick? When a giant steps on your home.
I'm so bad at this. What do you get when a giant steps on your home? Mushrooms. So you knew at the end of those shenanigans, I actually would have a riddle for you to call anyone today. And I love my riddle. It speaks right to what we're talking about.
Here's the riddle. Why are there so many songs written about going home? Actually, some people say there's more songs written about going home than there are love songs. I don't know if you ever heard that statistic, but I've heard it.
Why do you think that is? 866-348-7884. Obviously, this is not a trick question, right?
Why do you think there are more songs or as many songs written about going home as there are love songs? 866-348-7884 is the number to call in and win, which I would love for you to do. And if they do that, Nick, tell them what they'll win.
Absolutely. Yes, you'll be winning a prize from a King Pursuits prize, but we will be sending out a date the word calendar. So that way you can have a word for every day of 2025. You get a date the word calendar plus some other book or something from the... We got a prize vault that's just loaded. It's filling out. It is. And we need your call. So why are there as many songs written about going home? We may have given you a clue or two of that earlier.
866-348-7884. So again, the idea in the book of Acts, it says you're gonna be given power from a high with your testimony, which is a story, right? And I'm sure that that's what we get to hear in these stories. So Dr. Blumenthal, can you give us just without spilling all the candy, right? Just give us a little taste of something that really just like, man, when you heard this story, it like, wow, man, I got to put this in my book. I got to have volume two.
Well, yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, what I think about and the question you just asked for listeners or whatever, and what I was trying to say, a better way of saying it is there's really only one story. There's only always been one story and it's God's story. And it started, you know, it's got these four chapters in a way.
It makes it easier to understand. But we all lost home. We all yearn for home. We'll never be whole until we find our way back there. Unfortunately, we got to go to a break. I'm sorry, Sam. When we come back, I'm expecting some phone calls on why are many songs written about going home is love.
866-348-7884. Plus, we got a whole lot more on these stories. You're listening to The Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom today. We're so blessed to have with us Dr. Sam Blumenthal with his new book, Once Upon a Time, a collection of short stories for those trying to find their way home, volume two. And so, when we left our hero, we were talking about, like, was there one of those stories or something that came to you that said, man, I got to write another volume?
Or was that something that happened when you were still in book one, Sam? Well, yeah, the real story is that if you know Jewish names, Blumenthal, there's not a Blumenthal in the universe who's not Jewish. I grew up Jewish here in Charlotte, North Carolina, and was married, had three sons for 20 years, and then was divorced. And then my second wife kind of introduced me to the Bible. And it's a long story, but I came to Christ when I was 45, just turned 70 in November, almost 25 years ago. But at some point in time, actually 2006, 2007, God revealed to me that most of my second marriage didn't survive. I wanted it to, but it didn't. And God revealed to me that the greatest part of my distress over all of that during that time, after I came to faith, was the fact that the biggest idol in my life had always been the woman in my life.
And so I didn't have enough time to go into all that. And then he delivered me from it. I mean, it was an addiction, no different than being like addicted to heroin. But for me to kind of be what God showed me is that's really what motivated me more than anything else, trying to get the affirmation of this other person in my life, which I was not getting, by the way.
So yeah, really kind of funny. There might be a man or two out there that relates to you, Sam, just saying. It was my perfect storm. And looking back, to be honest, if it, I don't think I would have ever come to faith if it hadn't been just as painful as it was. And ultimately, you know, we didn't survive, which God didn't want that. But that's just kind of what happened. But when he delivered me from it, it was almost it was as miraculous as being having been like a heroin addict your whole life.
And then from one day to the next, the cravings are just gone. And God showed me in that way. Look, the power of this was always spiritual for it to be you to be delivered from it. You have to see it as spiritual. You have to see that you're worshiping something else more than me. You have to offer it back to me, just like Abraham offered Isaac.
And I will heal you from it. I mean, it's just so it's like, Oh, my God, I have to start writing stuff down. So for the better part of 10 years, I wrote this nonfiction book or books that's still hasn't been published.
I just want it to be just right. And but I learned, you know, I got my skills better. I had a private editor. And then really, and I still want to get back to that. But really, to take a break from that I started writing short stories. And God used stories in my life over and over and over again stories, movies.
That's how he's worked in my life. And so, and all I really did is the same things, the same gospel truths, the same things about, you know, our whole story, the garden, the fall, redemption through Christ, and one day, God's going to restore the whole world, all the stories have elements of those things. So the very first ones were, so what could my garden have been like, before the fall, if you know, if we had been there? Oh, yeah. What was it like for Adam and Eve?
How unbelievable would that have been? You know, and then from there, you know, I was thinking about this morning. No, it was yesterday morning, I was thinking about it, doctor, that, you know, and again, I, you don't know this about me, perhaps, but I absolutely love the Hebrew language. I love it. Okay. I find it beyond fascinating and just the way that I think I worship, but nonetheless, that there they were in the garden and they were naked, right? Yeah. And that word naked is very much almost the same word as skin, with the exception of the word skin has a mem on the end of it, which is kind of the symbol of water. Are you following me?
I do. And all of a sudden it hit me, and I've heard these, they're, you know, things from Jewish writings that say that Adam spent years in the river afterwards trying to wash the sin off. Oh, wow. And I, and all of a sudden it hit me, I was thinking about that, that, do you ever notice you don't feel as naked when you're in the water?
I've not. You know, what people talk more about is how the first thing they did was going hot. You know, the shame hits them. Oh yeah, there's no doubt about that, but I'm just saying, it's like, if you go to the beach, you know, you might take your cover up off and you feel kind of naked, but once you're in the water, you don't feel so naked, right? Well, well, people can see you.
Right. So I thought about it. Isn't it interesting that, you know, very much the word of God is water.
It's living water. And so if we cover ourselves in the word of God, it's just what I was relating to the other morning as you were talking about eating and I couldn't help but think about my own thoughts, you know, it's like, well, yeah, I was thinking about that the other day. The more I get covered in his word, the less naked I feel, you know, again, he covered them in skins, like you said, which was a living sacrifice, a picture of Christ in so many ways and all those things that you're talking about.
Absolutely. And so the first book is those kind of stories. What's the second book?
Well, just more. I really sat down. I mean, I've been like, again, for the better part of 10 years, I was writing this whole nonfiction thing that really is kind of explains that God's story, you know, God's story is the only story. Our stories are all kind of examples of that. There's kind of these four basic chapters, kind of how God revealed to me the idolatry in my life, and now how he delivered me from it, and then how stories get with what I began to realize is how much God's story is really in every story. And what's incredible about that, you have to look deeper and look at the symbolism, not just what's on the surface. But what's incredible is that in movies, any story, 99% of the people who write stories don't believe in the God of the Bible.
Oh, yeah, I got it. They write, and they'll give you all kinds of other reasons for why they wrote the story they did, you know. You look at the stories they write, and you see evidences of the four chapters over, and what you see more than anything else, because all of us are caught, like right in the middle, the falls already happened.
We were born fallen. We have the sense of the garden, and it's in us, but we never really experienced it. Have you ever read any of John Eldridge's stuff? Are you familiar with it? I have, yeah.
I have, yeah. So he calls it the four acts, right, of like a play. It comes in four acts.
And I don't know if it was him or C.S. Lewis that said every story borrows its power from the story, right? But what's incredible to me about it is, and it makes sense, because if God created all of us, like he said he did, and I believe he did, and in Romans 1, it says he put himself, his knowledge of him in us, but his essence in us, and we're truly image bearers, which means, and Lewis talked about this, it's like, why are we all, we all have the same sense of right and wrong. We're just born with it.
Where did that come from? It's like, I believe he also put in us a deep, yeah, we all know who he is. And it's like, we're born fallen, and there's some unconscious desire we all have to push him away, to hold him away, because that's what the fall did to us. We want to be independent.
We don't want to submit our lives to him. But it's like, everybody knows that. I'm convinced of this. Everybody knows this unconsciously.
Everybody does. And so when people who write stories sit down to write, what's really on their heart of hearts that they don't even recognize is this story that they write with. They can't help but write it, because it's like the only story. And the most powerful part of it is, I mean, sin has corrupted all of us just beyond, you know, we were truly are depraved and people, religious people who are not, you know, Christians, who don't accept that, that's kind of the, you know, they can't, you can't really get it, you can't, you don't, you don't realize your need for God until you realize that we're hopeless without him, without his grace, and without the power of Christ. And so we're all without him. It's like, life is only gonna be so good. Maybe, you know, just randomly things, you know, go okay in your life, but it's never going to be good. It can't because we're just too depraved.
Only with the Holy Spirit can we really be in a better place in this life, period. And that's kind of the story. So you see story after story, so many start with the protagonist is either already in a crisis, or he's getting ready to go into a crisis. And the main part of the story is it just really completely blows up.
And they may mention God, they may not, but God's redemptive grace humbles him, you know, completely humbles him. And at the end of the story, he's a nicer and kinder and gentler version of himself, you know, Ebenezer Scrooge is like the best example. But even even Jason Bourne, I mean, it's like the same thing happens over and over and over again, you know, and that's like, we all know what we need. Most people just don't, you know, I took a, I have written screenplays and different things. And I took a class on story writing one time with only remember one thing out of it, which was you you take your main character, you put him through this change, that change, then you begin to throw rocks at him, you throw more rocks at him, you throw more rocks, or put him up a tree, you know, chase him further up the tree, chase him further up the tree, however it works. The idea is you create that tension. And interestingly, I like the way John Eldridge puts this, he said every story, a great story has a really great bad guy.
Because ours does, right? Truly, yeah. So I love that.
I love talking with you too. And so we're going to be back with more from Sam, but I need to know from you, like, I can't believe nobody's called in with such an easy answer. Why are, right, there's so many songs written about going home as actually as many as love songs, 866-348-7884. Call us.
You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom. So excited to have Dr. Blumenthal with us today with his book, Once Upon a Time. I love that, you know, that's the way the Bible starts out in its own way.
And also John chapter one starts out that way, Once Upon a Time, a collection of short stories for those trying to find their way home, volume two. And also very exciting, we have Adam is in Schuyler, Virginia, who has an answer to the question, why are there as many songs written about going home as love songs? Adam? Well, I don't know that I have the answer. I have an answer.
You have the winning answer, Adam. To me, going home is a love song. You know, home is where we are the most comfortable and where we feel the most loved. And home is where all of us who are believers are excited about ending up. So I think that's probably as great a love song as has ever been written.
Yeah, it's so cool. Adam, you know, I am not unlike Dr. Sam. I didn't come to Christ until I'm in my mid 30s anyway. And I had no sense of truly being loved or being accepted or even how to be myself, right? Like, what did that feel like?
Because I was wearing masks wearing masks that I was trying to impress so many different people in so many different ways. Well, I think that's the reality for all of us before we meet Christ is we're trying to serve or please someone somewhere along the way. And we have that void that we have to fill. And the only one that can really fill it is Christ. So you're so right.
It's amazing as we strip away more and more of the false sense and we get closer. You know, when you're wearing a mask, the mask gets all the love, right, Adam? Absolutely.
Absolutely. That's right. So where is Skylar, Virginia? Well, Skylar is between Lynchburg and Charlottesville.
The station is out of Lynchburg. But you know Skylar better as Walton's Mountain. Oh, really?
If you've ever watched the show, this is where Earl Handler is from and all of the stories centered around his growing up in this community. So I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah.
There's actually even a little museum, kind of a little Mayberry and somebody built the replica of the home. And so it's kind of neat. That is really neat. That is really neat.
Well, now I got a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. That's as good as anyone I can think of, right?
Yeah. Do you know Dr. Carson? He's from that area somewhere, but I didn't know.
He never told me that. Dr. Ben Carson? No, Dwayne Carson. He was actually the campus pastor at Liberty for years and years.
Oh, okay. No, I do know that name. I do know that name.
But I'm not sure where he was from. I live in Amherst, which is actually just outside of Lynchburg. I'm at work today making my rounds, and some of those are here in Skylar. Well, that is beyond cool. I'm so grateful for you calling in.
And if your name was John Boy, I could say good night, John Boy. Right. Right.
Thank you for calling. And I know, you know, that date, the word calendar that Nick talked about, that's Dr. Carson's. And it's really cool because it has – Oh, no. You know, I'm sorry. You know why I know his name, and I do know that he actually spoke at a revival at our church very recently. Oh, well, they didn't know that. And I spoke to him.
I spoke to him, and I told him how much I thought of Robbie Dilmore and all the shows that I like to listen to that you host. Well, thank you. So, yeah, he is at Liberty. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, God bless you, Adam. I appreciate that. Very much honored that you listen. Thank you. Yeah. You have a great weekend, man.
A great 2025. Do the same. All right. Bye.
All right. Dr. Sam, it's so true, isn't it? Like, and I've been thinking about it ever since you talked about your wife, and I'm just intrigued. I know every listener out there wants to know the same thing I want to know.
Are you remarried? I'm not, you know, and I'm open to it. It's different when you get, like, older, you know?
It's like, and it's just, yeah, it's so different. And I may or may not, you know, but the most important thing is it's okay either way, you know? And what the caller was just saying, you know, and what you were talking about, about your value and your worth and what's it based on, you know? It's truly only based on, you know, God's love of us. And, you know, another way to look at the fall is that we lost that. We lost the conviction of God's love, you know? I don't know if you've ever seen the Jesus Story Bible, which is, you know, a big children's book, but it's sold millions of copies. Susan Lloyd-Jones wrote it, and it's just a summary of the Bible, but she says it better, I think, than anybody else. It was when the fall happened, Satan whispered a lie in Eve's ear, and the lie he whispered was, God does not love you.
Right. And that's like, there's one way, you know, so a lot of things happened in the fall, but I really think it's that I agree with her more than any other single thing, and that messed us up so bad, you know? Oh, it really did. So the other thing that you said that intrigued me, I gotta know the answer, is—and actually I would love for you to develop it a little bit more—is you said you had to, you knew somehow that you needed to offer that relationship back to God as an offering, and you made a point of that.
Can you—how did you know to do that, and how did you do it? Well, it kind of happened. It kind of all flew out of my mouth. I mean, it's so like over, my second wife and I married the better part of 10 years, so the last eight years of that was very hard, very difficult, a lot of conflict. I'm like, I've come to faith. I'm like becoming a more godly man all the time. I'm trying to do all the right things, but I, you know, a relationship was very unstable, and I'm just at the end of myself. It's like, what can I do?
What more can I do? It just kind of didn't, you know, really seem, you know, to matter what I did, and it's a long story, but God begins through the language in the Old Testament where he speaks to Israel about their unfaithfulness, really, you know. He calls them whores.
They're harlot is his favorite word, you know. You have all these other lovers. You have all these other lovers, all these other gods you worship. It's really, if we can find just another way to talk about the fall besides for identity and what happened to us and love, it's like instead of loving God, we love the things of this life.
That's kind of what happened to Adam and Eve in the garden. It's like, well, we love you, God, and we're glad you made us, but we love all these things you gave us in this, you know, in this physical material life, and we're going to pursue those things instead of you. And so, but God, he showed me that. He said, you've come to know me.
You know my love for you. You know that that is really the only thing that matters and gives you value. You don't need anything else, but there's this fallen, broken part of you that for whatever reason, for most of your life, came to believe the lie that you need the affirmation of this other person in your life for you to be okay. You know, for most men, it's career and success, and I was a psychologist for over 30 years, and I cared about that, and yeah, oh yeah, I had a lot of passion. If you read my stories, it won't take too long to figure that out, and it's like, I had a lot of passion about that, but I never was insecure about that.
And another way to figure out like what your idol really is, and I think we may have more than one, but there's probably one big one in everybody's life, is what keeps you up at night? That's like, really, some people will say, what do you love too much? Well, that's kind of hard to figure out, especially if you're in denial about it, but what keeps you up at night? What is your angst? And so God showed me, it's like, you know, I have compassion for you, you know, but this is a betrayal of me, that you love this other thing. For me, it was a person and wanting their affirmation, but you love this other thing more than me. That's the problem, and only I can kind of free you of it. I love that, that, and what keeps you up at night? Hey, we got to go to another break. Dr. Sam Blumenthal, his book, Once Upon a Time, a collection of short stories for those trying to find their way home, volume two. By the way, it's at KingdomPursuits.com, and we're going to be back with another segment with Dr. Sam. What keeps me up at night? Uh-oh. I have to start going down through that inventory.
We'll be right back. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom, and how fun to have a passion for home, as we're talking about today for Dr. Sam Blumenthal, Once Upon a Time, a collection of short stories for those trying to find their way home. You know, you think about all those songs, Simon and Garfunkel, Home, Word Bound, you know, I wish I was. I bet he did, and I hope he found it, but nonetheless, if not, he needs to buy this book. That's funny. Paul Simon is very Jewish, and yeah, I don't think he believes in Christ, but it'd be nice if he did.
Yes, it would. It was such a talent and such a gift, right? I heard that this is a really cool thing. I don't know if you're like me, Dr. Blumenthal, but the word blessing is a challenge, and certainly for the Jewish faith, people want the blessing, right? They all want the blessing, but I don't know if you've ever heard this, but I got this actually from Dr. Carson told me that, interestingly, Benny Hahn asked—I'm trying to think of the name of the other famous pastor who lives out in Oklahoma.
Well, he ended up, I think Jay Vernon McGee maybe, but he ended up in California. No, this is Oral Roberts. Benny Hahn asked Oral Roberts what the blessing means, which normally they aren't two people that I would have a whole lot of interest in what they had to say, but this is profound. He said, blessed people think God thoughts, and what he explained to Benny Hahn at the time, he said, you know, why is it that the Jewish people have won all the, you know, Nobel Prizes, and they have all these amazing accomplishments and whatever, is because of the blessing that they received, they're able to think and see things in a way closer to the way God sees them, which is certainly above our ways, and able to function there, and I think that that's part of the reason that Paul Simon and other folks have got these amazing gifts, if we could just set them free, right? Yeah, no, I think, yeah, the statistics are crazy if you look at like Nobel Prize winners, you know, and like the percentage of them that are Jewish, Jews are like less than one-tenth of one percent of the people in the world, or less than one-hundredth of one percent of the people in the world, and it's like, and they've won like 40% of like all the Nobel Prizes, some like that, it's crazy, and especially in economics and physics and all this stuff, medicine, but God clearly has just blessed them with intelligence and good genes in that regard, it's just, it's clear that's the case, but you know, as important as the mind is, important as ideas are, and we need ideas and knowledge to even, you know, be able to communicate with each other, the fundamental problem with us is that our heart is depraved, not our mind, you know, it's like, the mind is depraved because the heart is depraved, and even Orthodox Jews have a sense of this.
I was talking to an Orthodox, ultra Orthodox rabbi one time, and he was saying, explaining to me why they do the tefillim, which is, you know, the pair box around their head, and they wrap the leather straps around their arms, and he said, the idea kind of, and the scripture verses in the little box, right, on their forehead, and he said, the hope is that God's word will get into your head, and if it gets into your head, hopefully it'll go down to your heart, and if it goes down to your heart, it'll come out of your mouth, is what he said, and so, but the problem is really with the heart, even Freud under, I was very Freudian, he, I mean, yeah, a lot of people, if we get our minds right, get our eyes right, we'll be okay, it's not, the problem's with the heart. Darrell Bock I heard a wonderful rabbi speak to that one time, I'd love to listen to their lectures sometimes, and he made reference to the idea that the word pharaoh is connected to the idea of your neck, and that there's actually a channel between your mind and your heart, and it comes through your neck, and your neck has got these ideas that are trying to get your heart, and the pharaoh is saying, let my people go, you know, the pharaoh's resisting, you know, and God's sitting there to your neck saying, let my people go, you know, let those thoughts, you know, thoughts from the heart get up to your head, you know, however that would work, it's a fascinating study, there's no doubt that it's an 18-inch journey we all need to make, but I love your book, I love how you have, you know, taken your own life and used it as a testimony, obviously, you know, comfort others the way that you've been comforted, and so I'm very excited about volume two, is it out now? It is, it came out in December, yeah. And wow, that's perfect timing, so again, you can go to Kingdom Pursuits, Amazon has it, right, and it's linked there, it's easy enough to get, any other issues as far as getting it that you want to make people aware of, Sam? Nah, I mean, you can get it from the publisher who's Redemption Press, but it's quicker from Amazon and easier, so yeah, Amazon like, you know, 80% of like all the books in the world are sold through Amazon, pretty much like everything else. Right, but like all new offers, if you get this book, please, please, please, write him a review, you know, share, you know, what you liked about the book and those kind of things, it's so important. Yeah, it helps. Dr. Sam, I am so grateful for you, so grateful we could set this up for today, and I hope you have an amazing blessed weekend, I'm sure it sounds like you will, and for those listening, I am so grateful, I really, really am, and boy, we got a neat episode of Encouraging Prayer, it's actually sort of a time capsule from last year, about the new year, and then the masculine journey starts here now at 12 o'clock, followed by, it's time to man up with Nikita Kolov, so much truth coming at you on the Truth Network. Thanks for listening. This is the Truth Network.
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