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Dianne Dawson Garrett, Claudia Marini, and Gloria Corn with Special Guest Host Bill Mixon

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Dianne Dawson Garrett, Claudia Marini, and Gloria Corn with Special Guest Host Bill Mixon

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Kingdom pursuits where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into the kingdom pursuits now live from the truth. Your host Robbie Gilmore will like to think that was Robbie Gilmore but you not what you got Bill Mixon here.

Robbie is on a will earn family vacation and we prayed they had a wonderful time.

He's given me the opportunity to step in and to share with you some friends of mine in a couple of the situations that I'd like you to know about with God Diane with this and that Diane is here with her friend Claudia and they are working with something dog called drug courts and then I've got Gloria corn where this is a dear friend of mine. She's an auxiliary with the Gideons and she set up a really neat program. Praying for our local police department in our community and once a month goes to the, the city Police Department and has a whole bunch of people that join her.

Tell us a little bit about the police circle. Oh, thank you so much for having me and I let talk about the circle in the first responders we do it once a month, usually it's the second Sunday from 3 to 4 regardless of the weather. Unless there's ice and snow in the winter time.

We cancel those. But even in the rain and the shine in the heat and the code we meet together we had anywhere from two people to over 300 and it just depends on the situation what's going on. The weather godly that all my heart next month in August. It will be three years he laid it on my heart today. This has been a few times in the bin 20 3040 people what you think your biggest audience is been the biggest audience was two years ago this past July made this July 2016 and unfortunately it followed the Dallas placements that were shot that week and I think three New Orleans police officers were shot that Sunday morning and we had a huge turnout was over 300 and it was phenomenal. I love how you that the group prays for the officers and that they get home safe and they pray for the people that the officers come in contact with that are our community has a peace about it that everything is safe and that all people get home that the contacts between the officers and those they deal with go will and I know there's a lot of officers I've talked to that really appreciate that that a lot of times is officers bump into young people that like myself or my son. At one time were doing things in public that they really shouldn't have got a little bit of trouble. It turned out that that trouble got a whole lot bigger and they ended up going before a regular court and I heard about something called drug court and Diane would you tell us a little bit about what a drug court is yes well Forsyth County used to have a drug court and that was cut by state budget cuts cabinet in 2011 and Carrie Siegel are is an attorney here in Winston-Salem and she was a public defender in the Forsyth County system and she was seeing the opioid crisis firsthand while representing addicted population of criminal defendants. Most of her clients have been become addicted to legitimately prescribed drugs said they became addicted to pain pills will after those ran out. Then they turned to hairline and illegal drugs. Well, too many she saw lots destroyed and their worse more than one time that she would go to court and have to explain why her client wasn't there because they had faithfully overdosed the night before. Well, yeah, I know that with the drug courts they deal with all kinds of different types of drugs and I was surprised to find out that there's an awful lot of young people that are addicted to prescription drugs, correct, and that a lot of times that a lot of people become addicted from prescription they had and they start take it they're not supervised as well as they could be where they just take a lot more than they should. But there a lot of people that get addicted all their own.

An actual prescription for themselves and and that's what led Carrie a lot just to begin Phoenix rising because that was what she saw was happening and being attorney arbor consists of a variety of attorneys and then Claudius here is a board member who will speak in just a minute, but the way I just want to explain very quickly how drug court works.

It when you're convicted of a crime. Your attorney has to recommend you for drug court and that is so, then Carrie, who is in private practice now, but she represents the drug court participants pro bono by Judge Lawrence Fein who is amazing. The treatment providers and site and the probation officers all meet to decide if you can be accepted into drug court. But once you are accepted into drug court treatment court.

It is at least a year that you are there in your monitor must wear ankle bright bracelets. They live and how they have jobs and many did, but there monitored weekly three times a week drug tested and everything else, but also when they did this they plead guilty said they are guilty, Claudia. It's are they called drug courts everywhere kid if my teenager got in trouble cannot Google drug courts and find something in my local community or do they have different names.

Do you know drug treatment court under that you have any idea how how do most areas have drug courts are just a few areas. Not anymore because of funding, used to be that most places did have the bigger communities, but a lot of the smaller communities I'm down anymore.

So in our area. We are blessed that we've got a drug court.

This been reset up for Forsyth County and that if somebody's in Forsyth County.

They should consider at least investigating what a drug court is are you aware of any other drug courts in our state.

Yes there there alive or I know Guilford County has one. It's been up and running for a while in Charlotte the bigger areas all have their still on, but they of course get more funding local community statewide and yeah whoever's out there if they don't take this opportunity if they're struggling they're missing a great opportunity know a lot of people to go through this situation don't have the money that a lot of other families do. Are the attorneys often the pro bono war. We just have one. It's scary to represent them in sheep) is that some pro bono. But Phoenix rising our nonprofit we are tasked with coming up with the money to run drug court and that is $70,000 a year and we have to have that money rights will have a matching grant from the city but we have to raise 30 they give us 35,000. If we raise 35,000 those families listening that it had some problems in the head.

Some of their family that have had drug problems and gone through and gotten things all fixed up more, trying to figure out how they might help they need to do so to look for areas in their neighborhood that they can make a difference in support of a situation that could ruin a family and and and and drug court is life-saving drug treatment court is lifesaving and I'm sure Bill you'll have it on the website but please please visit our website. Phoenix rising and are sailing Winston-Salem out. Okay, I've got here for you but yes spell like that and then we have a Facebook page, Elsa and its continually updated wonderful Gloria. You said you been doing this for three years now. Why, Lord, the Lord laid on my heart three years ago this August start in our first prayer circle was October 2015 we started every other month during the 2016 year and then 2017, and 18 we do it every month that I know you get some officers out there you can you share any of your interaction with the. The officers themselves, yet most of the time. Some of the officers are in plainclothes.

We don't know that there there other than the fact that we recognize them when out of uniform and some calm in uniform and some not.

They really are very supportive and now even when we have a small group really really do appreciate you and that means a lot in your community.

You might consider few of you Sunday school group might like to go to the local police station and just take a little bit of time price of the officers in your community there. Pray about the different programs that had a drug problem.

A lot of this helps some other people through it. Claudius can share her story with this this morning. Thank you again for having me do this. My daughter Madison we call Manny struggled and battled with addiction for many years.

She was 14 years old. Sadly, believe it or not when it started again. She started with prescription drugs that we got from the doctor for some surgery she had on her foot and through the years. It just escalated to other things and met a boyfriend who introduced her to heroin tragically and sadly she lost that battle December 29, 2016 to an accidental overdose. She was 22. Since her death I have been determined to continue trying to help others into our own mission and my nonprofit Manny's mission and on my nonprofit goes and supports Phoenix rising on because I believe deeply in that drug treatment court and what that can do Madison was in and out of court for lots of drug-related kind of crimes and she was not given an opportunity and I'm convinced that if she'd been given an opportunity she might still be here today. So I encourage anybody who's struggling and has charges and goes through on the court system to please seek out this program. It's life-changing. But unfortunately, like most things can't do something, that money and if we don't get funding and we don't get donations on this kind of program one exist, so if you want to help as a great weight community can help you have a wonderful son did very well in high school first year cello for the county in middle school and high school, played sports with the last half of his senior year he got in with some friends that pulled a minute challenging direction and there's a big thing in our area well the kids go to Myrtle Beach for graduation and he got down there got called underage drinking and it was a $3000 problem that had to be fixed and I know a lot of families.

A $3000 problem can turn them on there yet. I do a lot in the jail in the prison ministry and yet I can imagine that that alcohol problem.

We discovered after two years could have really changed a lot of families and I know that in our case we had to hire rather expensive attorneys. But I know that if you can't afford that you've gotta go in and use public defender and that that can be from the inmates I've talked to in the jail just unbelievably frustrating because of got very little time to spread among a whole lot of people to have a drug court to have somebody that can actually listen to your situation that can help walk you through which go in alone and explain to you what your options are. We just be a true blessing for some people. Nobody teenager with you. It teenagers had this really difficult problem of thinking, nothing bad can happen to you that the very best is good happening every one of the situation. You need somebody skilled to talk to him and that is why drug treatment program is so wonderful. If you're you get accepted into it because Carrie the Tarrant attorney that represents the lessons she was a public defender. And that's why she started this not because of the sentence. The options were not working, were not helping, but then you also work with inside a treatment provider you work with the probation officer and then the presiding judge Lawrence font is fantastic to. It's a whole I don't know Heights mine is just as like almost a treatment facility.

Going through this, Gloria. You know lots and lots of officers I know quite a few. There are some of the nicest, best people that I've ever met. That really have a heart for their community and would like to see every single exchange they have with somebody go in a good and wonderful direction.

Can you share some of the conversations you've had with officers. I was just thinking as you were sharing about this drug situations. It there but for the grace of God go. A lot of us meet one decision away from being addicted to drugs and discipline has a lot to do with it. Growing up in your how you're raised in respect for those in authority and now I think the police that I've talked to them with what they want more than anything else. Of course, is safety for themselves and safety for the men and women that come in contact with and peace. I mean, they leave for work every every morning and don't know if they got to come home at night. I don't know too many people to go to work at 8 o'clock and were at the gotta make it home alive at 5 o'clock or not. As as opposed to the police on my way here this morning. I passed think about 12 police cars on University Parkway. There was a terrible on what motorcycle accident and that's terrible and and we think of how how quickly life can be snuffed out either by accident or by addiction or other things and I think the police all want the public to feel safe in their presence to fill free in their presence to come to them.

Not afraid of them because they're going to something Babbitt to come to them and need and that's I can imagine have a job like that when they put their lives on the line every day and are not respected in the not appreciated and it's kind of scary. I would encourage everybody when you see an officer to take a moment and go up and thank him fluidly. Do let them know that they are appreciated in that you when they feel that way then it's a lot easier for them to deal with some of the challenges that come before them. I remember seeing a step one time that every year over 50,000 officers are assaulted in the United States very, very few of those exchanges go bad, but every one of those exchanges leaves a mark so it's good for especially the blisters of this audience to remember that the officers need support and the officers need to know that there are appreciated part of the problem is that they know that when they pick somebody up, got to do something that it's a life-changing event and I been at Samaritan Road in the kitchen and the RRC kitchen in men's shelter. Also, a lot of times the officers will pick someone up and they'll take him somewhere other than jail to help a male. Yeah, I think that just a few bad instances can change your life dramatically. Diane worked with the program that the jail and prison ministry set up a call Chronicles as she did tell a little bit about how somebody goes from Chronicles to the hospital to the soup kitchen jail well the wavefront almost worried I was a director of particles, community, and it was free and it was a long term residential substance abuse recovery program and you came to us and we had a bed you could get it and that is when they hit rock bottom and they knew that they said were going to die.

We've lost everything and said they it was amazing.

The men that went through that program and how they work.

That indicated that was an and so many are still in recovery today was the long term program. There, it's amazing.

You can have one small problem.

It just cascades into a life-changing event.

If you go in and you spend some time in jail and you get it in your head that you've just screwed up your entire life and that nobody's going to hire you, and you've got absolutely no hope you are causing your life to go in a direction. It doesn't need to, knowing that there people out there that care for you and won't good things to happen when I go in the jail.

I try to tell them if the day starts with you.

Looking in the mirror at somebody that's chosen and holy and dearly loved by God and the God wants really great things for you and the vast majority of the world wants really good things for you. You day goes different. But if you get a drug problem you get arrested you end up on the street that's a mountain of problems. You've got to deal with the be able to get back to the serous and that's how was it particles. I mean just talking to the residents telling them you can do this, being a cheerleader is much as anything else and that is again what Phoenix rising diarists through support funding supporting drug court is here we are the cheerleaders that drug treatment court program are the cheerleaders for those people that have lost hope our soup kitchen has a program called cornerstone and in cornerstone. If the men get in that they've got a year and 1/2 with it don't have to worry about the basic necessities of life and they've got a Bible-based recovery program. They bad a 50% success rate, which is an astronomical number we've got something called Holly house which is a program for women, run by the YWCA and they bet a 50% success rate but there's almostin our area for women others space for women with children and there's some programs for me but there's almost nowhere for some female that's got a drug, alcohol, or indeed where it has a problem and needs a place to stay at night they get arrested and they get in the system.

They've got nowhere to go to get help with got the bit where to call to say I need a lawyer. I may end up a lot a lot of times at homeless shelters and of course Samaritan is right for the man in the corner sent program but particles is no longer in existence. The funding went away private donors set that is no longer there. Phoenix rising we ate, we continue to evolve and our next step is what were working on right now is it's going to be called Phoenix rising or whatever name it is somewhat wants that money will name it after death that clean and sober living house so drug court participants during their common driveway and lived there in the clean living, we need to pray community that is praying for your local police department in talking about drug addiction in our communities think if you really prayerfully thought about it. There lots of families you know in church there. Lots of neighbors.

There lots of people in your extended family that have had to deal with family members that have had a problem made a mistake taking things they shouldn't take made a fool of themselves got locked up and if you can help folks in the beginning that first time instead of it turning into five or six or seven problems are whole communities going to be better are the it cost a fortune for people to stay in jail and to stay in prison. It cost a fortune for people to be in our hospitals are mental health centers. If we you in a caring and loving Christian Christian manner can help people get through that first mistake quickly and to find help for their problems that it will save our communities a great deal of money and it'll save our families a great deal of grief. I know in my family. I had problems. I'm an alcoholic and a drug addict that when my daughter came along and was born I was able to get a grip on my situation and God was able to help me with.

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. I have a wonderful son. I have deep respect for who went through a purity his life where he needed a little bit to help the drug court seems to me the excellent way for families that have a problem with the member that's going through the early stages of drug addiction, to be able to get a handle on it and we want people in their communities to pray for those folks and to do what they can to help some of the ways that they can help might be our awareness event in our fundraising events. We always need volunteers can come out and support us in that way, and since were on the same topic about the jail, you know, people also need to realizing it. Jail doesn't solve and fix somebody who's addicted on. That's why these treatment programs are so important because sticking in jail. Yes, when the jail, they will be clean for that my time.

As soon as they come out they still have the addiction problem. So that's where drug treatment court really plays a big part you know if somebody comes across somebody who is having an overdose or having some issues related to alcohol or drug problems, and they are in need of help, I encourage you to please call 911 stop don't run, there's a law that protects you on the good Samaritan law.

I'm so do the right thing because you can save somebody's life is driving by the hospitalist working at the soup kitchen and was coming home and there was some poor guy out trying to collect money right in the middle of the street and he filled a first thing I did was call 911 and so you need to get somebody over there. Do all kinds of things we can do.

I know my small group is I got a call from a good friend named Diana and I heard you aren't doing anything and got a lot of spare time on your hands have upcoming doubted serving food to the homeless leader at the Bethesda center. So I got my small group in our church all pizza brought juice down and served and had a chance to share a good word with the folks and yet the things that we can do in our community.

You are most of this audience is connected to a Sunday school group of church civic organization. They've gotta group of folks at work that have a heart for Jesus.

Yet Jesus expects us to put feet set in the hands and shoulders to our walk and we've got a responsibility be in a light on the hill in a time of refreshing to actually go out and make a difference in our communities and I think that we should work toward tithing. Our time with got a responsibility to be in our communities and help those other groups of people that are trying to make a difference in the lives of those with got something called Holly house that I talked about earlier in there lots of different small groups go in and help those ladies who wall that they're going through it at the Samaritan try to get all the volunteers to sit and talk with the people and learn a couple names because those it if you feel like you're a human being that you feel like your valuable if you feel like your neighbors care for you. That is a lot easier for you to reach out and accept the help that they are. If it's they are.

We've got to have groups that show that they care. Love some of the stories about the drug court when you shared something about the wonderful judge we've got how he responded. He had amazing before us. I'm not working at Bethesda now actually Friday with my last they had been some contract work with them for a fundraiser but when I moved back to Ensign in November and got involved with Phoenix rising.

I was going to drug court restarted December 1, 2007. Take pencil rising launched June 2017 and we say, not May.

I was a back your Claudia carried the board of all of them got it restarted and so I sorry going to drug court and I would sit with the participants judge fine is AC heat he's personal.

He's like Harry who defendant is there their attorney when they have done gray on the drug test of the probation officers and insight is given numerous times during the waves and they have met their curfews, he praises them we give them. They give them incentives like gift certificates to restaurants and jazz five always gets up and heat either steps down Arlene's over and shakes her hand and you can tell on their face just that little bit is what Bill is talking about nonvoluntary semantics, just that little bit of enough were not any different enough, you have this problem judged against judges anyone, teachers, attorney anyone can have this judge fine is amazing. Just like you carry is real with those participant she stuff but is she is so compassionate when the jail one talking to some of the inmates in their you. Some have a big chip on their shoulder and the they really think that if all the truth were known, they shouldn't be in there that officer is bending the facts or not that they didn't do something wrong. The almost all admit that the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong but the facts don't conform and they think it's just not right that they got picked up pot should be legal. What what can I walk around with it the right person talks to them before they go into court if they can make him feel safer if they can walk in thinking that instead of the whole world's out.

There's absolutely no way this is gonna work out in my favor. Then you got a different spirit and judged.

It's they are knowing that this might just be one mistake that this might be a way to solve this problem with this person needs. This is some treatment. The, the defendant that the person that did the wrong comes across in a totally different way than that other judge that she is convicted 42 people for steel and are special in a car doing thing. It is a different atmosphere and it is that kind of judge that your dynamite is right, I mean an end.

Best he's got 42 cases he's doing just fine.

Is there and he makes it personal again. I mean, it is just just that little bit that I saw the two months I went drug court twice a month. It was or twice a every other week.

It was amazing and again Carrie After Dark would be ever carry would been addressed.

Addressed to drug participants before they left, and she would give them either a great wow you did a great job this week or not seriously peanut next waking up your arm and come back here and you're not can be here and that works I mean she knows that.

What I mean happens. And you know a lot of people a lot of people out there only have a contact with the police officer when something's gone wrong with the been caught doing something wrong and the officers feel that way too. Sometimes they feel like the only time there there talking to the public is when the reprimanded but most of the officers I know have a great heart and they really need to feel like the communities behind him. What what you see, Gloria, I see the same thing when I go up to place officer that is maybe at the whatever he's doing outside of his job may be at a restaurant having lunch and I go up and just introduce myself and say I just want thank you so much for your life and time on the line. I appreciate your hard work and you mean a lot to the community and we're praying for you and you can tell how much they are really appreciative of that.

And I don't want just touch base when we pray, at the deathly station once a month.

I know people are praying every day, but the group coming together is very powerful but we also pray for the judicial system. We pray for for the janitors.

We pray for the equipment we pray for the canines and the trainers in and everything and pay increases because while placement I worked two jobs and that that's very stressful and we want the policeman to know that we must not praying for their protection for their whole family that they can feel comfortable and confident now that their loved one is bathed in prayer and surrounded by God's angels bit the prayer court gets on that list of the things you're praying for in the future. Yes, very much so if you've got friends and family and neighbors and you know that they're going through this. I would encourage you to Google drug courts and see if there's something in your area and let them know is in a lot of areas you gotta seek it out. It's not something that's just going to pop up as a possibility or ask your attorney if you are convicted as your attorney and they will tell you if it's there and then they will work for you and unfortunately the public defender systems a little bit screwy.

Well, I mean that's why Phoenix rising started coming because I mean you as your attorney about it and you should ask your public defender that are now definitely I mean definitely.

Carrie was a public defender and she's in the courthouse on the will often remember Jesus had a story supposed to think help the least of us helping ourselves back. Amazing to me the number of people that die from overdose doses. Diane was sure that we had more people died one year than died in Vietnam. It's amazing to me that yet the people I see in the jail. The people I see in the prison.

Some of the people I see it are our men shelter unit. They look like your next door neighbor. They look like your French child know that you had the kids I knew in college that had problems and didn't graduate through some of the kids that I've known in Winston-Salem.

The you can't tell by looking at somebody whether there a drug addict, or whether they've got a problem. The only thing I know is that if kids feel loved home and they know if they make a mistake that they always can go home that that helps a lot but you kids do stupid things adults do stupid things we do things then we look back and we try to figure yet you how I fix this, and I like to remember that Jesus said he came so that repentance and forgiveness of sins would be called in his name. I like to remember that God said he for his own good is willing to forgive our transgressions that he will place them in the deepest part of the city that he will put them behind his throne were nobodies allowed to go that he will separate you from your transgressions.

As far as the east is for West and we have got to is a community we have to his parents. We have to his brothers and sisters, we have to be able in a loving and caring way except these people that have gotten for whatever reason into a really difficult situation and we have to help them heal and one way to do that is the drug court and one way to do that is to let the police know that we support them and that were behind them. One way to do that is for us to get involved in our communities in ways that make a difference. That put a smile on Christ face and we've got to bring our friends and our neighbors in our small group in our churches along with us when we reach out in our community and we try to make it better. This drug court program, something that needs to be talked about in shared.

We need to remember that when someone gets out of jail when somebody gets out of prison if they don't have a way to earn a living. Then they can end up back in for the vast majority of those that serve more than a year when they get out the vast majority of them can't find a way to make a living in the vast majority of them end up back in the jail costing us a fortune. I like to tell the guys I talked to nobody wants you in here. We want you with a nice spouse with great kids a wonderful job complaining about how much taxes you pay will want to pay for you to be here, but a lot of folks get out.

I tell them if if you don't know what to do with that phone rings and somebody says what are you doing you can make the giant mistake is saying nothing and you have no excuse but to be in the wrong place wrong time with the wrong friends. It's the story about the three guys fishing in the river and one of them starts hidden toward the shore and his buddies are yelling at them.

You scared the fish after he gets the second shoe tied, he says, look out there's a bear cub. It can't out run of beer he says yeah but I now outrun you to get what type of people are you hanging around with when you're on the outside or the people to get both their shoes with a to your problems less the group you fall into if you don't have a support network. When you get out you don't have a job if you don't have a way to earn a living and you one step of that is to have a drug court. That's helping people because they do more than just make sure it goes rotting court there looking after those people. After the good gavel drops helped him about what happens after the gavel will after they complete drug court which, again, we've only been in session since December 1, 2017. We are working Phoenix rising again were expanding to work on the clean living summerhouse and then went to continue on with the drug treatment plans for them for inside whatever treatment provided were not to let them go said that so important, got structured community services, not just saying go in there and file #not.

I mean it is ridiculous that there's been one suggestion that you let people out of jail in this area and you give them something like method on and then you give them a list of treatment options to go to and then that's it just won't work.

The drug court program doesn't work with any community service you insight into got a saturated community.

Definitely yes that's my point yesterday. A lot of the other systems it's a hodgepodge of you end up going spending time with people that are good to get you in worse situations and you were and begin with, but with drug court there, looking at you in a holistic level and they're trying to make sure that while you're doing what you have to do that.

That's so important. I mean people that complain drug court participants stay clean and out of jail usually nationally at least two years and that's not the case. I mean, again, as Claudia said Gina you go to jail for drugs and you get out. If you're an addict and let me date you're going to use and I'm thinking you really want to use. If you been in jail for even 30 days if you're not, but know that what Phoenix rising is doing through trial court again as it just is a continuum of that Army care here and it is so important, I mean that insight is there. Every court session Curtis from insight is that the probation officers there as well as Carrie and the judge so instead of warehouse and people you coming at it from a lady trying keep people from going back into jail again, which is unbelievably frugal for the rest of us. Is there anything else you'd like to share you give that some other parents with similar stories. Maybe there's a similar story like this year I'm sadly have met lots of families with the story because it you know I always say, if you spread your arms wide here and attach somebody that's affected by this. Manny was straight a student academically gifted early College program soccer player goalie not what you would think somebody addicted would look like in Indy. So we just got a B is a community more humble, more understanding help when you can volunteer donate to these groups onto the drug court and be part of solving and helping with this epidemic and with families it's it's horrible struggle that the person is addicted, but it is just as bad for the families to have to watch and feel useless and not be able to help in the way that you know you want to.

Manny was loved and had a huge family support you know when on, she was found she had the picture of the St. St. Haddix with her. She was, we were Catholic. She believed in God and very religious so it just goes to show you that it can affect anybody anywhere so you know love and helping your community and help us to Phoenix rising and help others. Yeah it's it's important that we go through difficult time with gut guilt attached to what's going on whether you in most cases we we've got no reason to held the guilt but we do but to find ways to make a positive difference in the lives around us instead of hiding in our homes is important.

One of the biggest problems I see in the jail and in the prison is unique.

If you only love yourself fraction then you can't believe anybody else loves you anymore than you love yourself. If you don't respect yourself, but a fraction you can't believe anybody else respects you more than yourself as a process is a process of learning how to forgive others to learn how to forgive yourself to learn how to love others more to learn how to love yourself more, and all that together allows you to love God, writer, and that you spiral. It's a process and that's something that's got to be tall.

We've got to be a loving and caring community to the people were related to the people we live next to the people we come in contact with. We've got to be in our community making a difference if we take our walk Christ seriously.

If you hear God telling you that you need to get a group of friends and you need to get into the police station on a Sunday, you need to stand there and pray for the officers in your community. You need to do that if you sit there thinking about a relative of yours is go into all kinds of problems.

On the other side of the country and you have absolutely no way to help them there people in your community that you can pick up the phone and you can call and say you've got a recovery program there. I like to be helpful. You've got friends or neighbors or family that have gone through a court situation and it hasn't gone well with the results hadn't gone well, maybe you need to Google drug courts and contact them and say how can I be helpful in our area. The way to do that would be thanks rising go to Phoenix rising googling drug courts might bring it up here, but do Phoenix rising and you'll see our website.

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