Stand Up For America

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Wow. Every once in a while, God just sneaks up and gives you something that you really just didn't see coming. And so I ought to tell you that our guests today are along those lines, like, man, I think you're going to really, really enjoy what we have for you. I've got so much in common with both of them, and I get a chance to talk to them both for the first time today.

So that's really, really fun. Well, first up, we have with us Pastor Ron Beatty, or it's Beatty. I got to get it. It's Beatty. And oh my goodness, he's involved in so many things that the list could go on and on, including his own radio station. But the reason he's here today is you got to know about this. Return America is presenting Stand Up for America rally.

It's going on Friday, October 29th, which tells me that my birthday must be on a Saturday this year. But anyway, it's at 1030. Oh, man, that you've got it. You're loaded for a bear, right, Pastor?

Yes, sir. We sure are. We have our lieutenant governor, Mark Robinson, is going to be speaking, and attorney David Gibbs, he heads up the Christian Law Association. And God has greatly used his organization through the years. We have a group called the Primitive Quartet. They are known throughout North Carolina and surrounding states. They've been singing for over 40 years, and they're going to be providing some special music for us. So oh, and the things that we're going to stand up for in Raleigh, you're going to be so excited to hear about that. But one of the things I know that the pastor stands up for, right, is Jesus and helping the hurting, which is what they do at the Durham Rescue Mission.

And with us, we have Rob Tartt. So welcome, Rob. Hello, welcome.

Thank you. And I have for years and years and years, because I have a wonderful relationship with the Winston-Salem Rescue Mission, Luke Carrico and those guys, I'm sure you know them, but I've always wanted to to have an opportunity, because I've always heard so many great things about the Durham Rescue Mission. And so can you give our listeners a little hint of what you guys are up to these days? Well, we've got a lot of expansion going on. As a matter of fact, we're going to break ground on a new dormitory next week, where we'll open 50 more beds and some office space. 50? Yes, yes.

We average about 300 men a night and close to 100 ladies and children a night, so we've got quite a large crowd, so we always need more beds, if you will. Yeah, yeah. Well, and I, you know, I can't even imagine, but I think it's an amazingly beautiful thing, so I'm so excited to hear about the Durham Rescue Mission and find out more about that. But you know, it is Kingdom Pursuits, so we got to do, you know, Robbie's Riddle. So, you know, it's that time of year. So, speaking of trick or treat, here you go, Sean. What's red and bad for your teeth? A brook.

A brook. Just saying. That's a trick there, believe me. So, I wore a harp costume to a Halloween party, but my wife, Tammy, she thought it was too small, Sean. She called me a liar.

A small harp is a liar. It'll come to you. Okay, all right.

I hate that I've got to explain this, but anyway. But just check a quiz, and maybe you've done this too, Sean, we all should, to find out what our real, you know, inner, you know, Hollywood monster might be. I mean, a Halloween monster. We've all got an inner one, and as I really pondered that, you know, I figured out that deep down, I'm really a skeleton. Good one.

That is, all right. And so, I told a knock-knock joke, and if you know my jokes, you know that this is probably likely true. I told a knock-knock joke while trick-or-treating last Halloween, and all I got was a couple of Snickers.

Nobody really laughed. So, you know, at the end of that, I would have a riddle, a Bible riddle, for you to call in and win today. And so, if you call in at 866-348-7884, all you got to tell us is, who was the first person in the Bible to get a laugh? Ah, it's a little tricky.

See if you can do it. Who was the first person in the Bible, since we're talking about Snickers, right? Who was the first person in the Bible to get a laugh? And if you know that, you can win what, Sean? All right, the winner of that will win one of our prizes from the Christian Car Guy Kingdom Pursuits Prize Chest. So call in, let us know the answer, and we will get you the right prize. We have both Christian Car Guy shirts or books.

You just tell their call screener, which you would prefer, and you call us at 866-348-7884. Tell us who was the first person in the Bible to get a laugh. And I'm shocked that the lines aren't just lit up, because that seemed like a really easy one. So, you know, don't let me down. I know you guys got this. So getting back to the Rescue Mission for a second, I'm really kind of surprised. So you guys have women there as well as men.

Women in Georgia, yeah, we have two divisions. And matter of fact, you mentioned the Winston-Salem Rescue Mission. Our founder, Ernie Mills, he actually worked at the Winston-Salem Mission for five years, and near the beginning of the Winston-Salem Mission before he started the one in Durham in 1974. Wow.

So there's a kind of connected at the roots, if you will. And so are you guys kind of like the Winston-Salem Rescue Mission? Like, you know, one of the neat things they do is they give people tours to come in and see what's actually going on, because, wow, I'll never forget the first time I walked through the Winston-Salem Rescue Mission and saw what God was doing. It just blew my mind.

Yes, yes. We give tours, and, you know, just like what you just said, people come to the Durham Rescue Mission, and I can't tell you how many times—I've been with the Mission for 26 years, and I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say, I can't believe y'all did all this. I didn't know y'all did all this, because we have a holistic program where we're trying to not only look at them, you know, in terms of telling them about the Lord—we're trying to do that, of course—but we're also trying to help them academically, vocationally.

We have an employment agency where we find them jobs, and they're a holistic program trying to help them get on their feet. Yeah, I always stand just kind of blown away at what God does, and Pastor Beatty was telling me that the last one of these you guys had, you had over 12,000 people show up in Raleigh. Did you tell me?

Yes, sir. When the marriage amendment was front and center here in North Carolina, we had a rally there. The legislature was not allowing the people of North Carolina to vote on the marriage amendment, defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

And so we sent 12,000 people to the Halifax Mall, which is located directly behind the legislative building. And in unison, we said in the Halifax Mall, let the people vote, let the people vote. And multitudes of people, even some of those who opposed us, said that our organization was most responsible for getting the marriage amendment through the North Carolina legislature, so the people of the state could vote on it.

And we had 61 percent of the people of North Carolina going on record defining—said, yes, we believe marriage is defined as one man and one woman, according to the Scriptures. And we're back because so many issues today are being put down. And this is not America, what we're seeing right now. We believe we need to stand up for the flag. We need to stand up for law enforcement. We need to stand up for the unborn.

They don't have a voice. We need to stand up for the family. We need to stand up for the First and Second Amendments. And so we're going to Halifax Mall again, right behind the legislative building, and we're asking thousands of people again to come back and let's stand up for America. Let's let our voices be heard. Let's let our voices be known.

We want the people across our state and across our nation to know that we're still here, we're still standing, and we're not going anywhere. Yeah. And, you know, you were telling me that you've been a chaplain. Speaking of standing up standing up for law enforcement, so you can sense that, wow, policemen's jobs today is just crazy compared to what it was, right?

Just two years ago. Well, the last 12 months, there's been more police officers and law enforcement officers killed in America than any time in previous history. Every day when they go out, they put their lives on the front line.

They stand between good and evil, light and darkness, and they never know when they leave. I have been called some eight or nine times in my tenure here to go deliver the message to the wife and children that your husband or your father won't be coming home because of the tragedies that take place. That's what opportunity coming up Friday, October 29th, to stand up. And the opportunity is there every day in Durham to get connected with the Durham Rescue Mission. So I got so much more with Rob and Pastor Beatty coming up, so stay tuned.

Well, come back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the Kingdom. And I am just so thrilled, really, to have these guys with me today. Pastor Ron Beatty—I want to say it right—who's here with this event coming up with the Return to America, Stand Up for America, coming October 29th. It's on a Friday.

How easy is it to get out there at 1030 in the morning? All those details are available at actually TruthNetwork.com, because we're sponsoring, we're taking part in this with the pastor and all that's going on there, as well as Rob Tartt with the Durham Rescue Mission, which, you know, we've got those stations there in Durham and Raleigh, and we're so grateful for all our listeners out there. And Rob, I just sit in there still just kind of blown away at, man, 50 more beds.

Fifty more beds. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, you know, for me, I always loved those stories. You know, like, there you were, you've been there a long, long time. But could you share the story of maybe there was a man or something when you first went that you were like, oh, okay, God, this is where you have me? You know, could you take us back there to give us an idea how God lit that fire?

Well, for me, I finished school, and I wasn't sure what to do. And so I'd always known of Durham Mission from through my church. And, you know, when you when you work at a rescue mission, I don't remember an old show years ago on television called Barney Miller. Oh, yeah. One of the things that made that show was so funny was seeing all the different people that they brought in on a given episode. Right.

And that's kind of how we are. We've got all kinds of characters coming in. But what's amazing is, like, right now at the rescue mission, we have one of our VPs, a VP of administration.

He came in in 2002 as a heroin addict. And he's grown and lord and just he's married now and got a got a nice house and just just a shining testimony of God's grace. And we can go on and on with different people that have found their way in their path in life. And, you know, that's the that's the real chore, if you will, the trick of the hill, you got to climb and helping those in crisis and homelessness, is helping them to see a new day to be motivated to move forward and to try something different. And the Durham Rescue Mission has just been a place for miracles like that through the years.

Yeah, that's that's truly, truly. And just like, sometimes pinch me, God, I get to take part in this. I mean, how fun this is to see him turn lives around and people that looked, you know, hopeless. But, you know, I think about a country that right now there's a lot of people out there, Pastor, that are thinking there isn't hope, but I happen to know that there's so much hope, it's unbelievable, because, right?

Yes, the wonderful thing about the grace of God is he has enough grace to save the entire world and still has grace left over. And we're grateful that we have a wonderful Lord who was responsible for this great nation being founded. Our forefathers, many of them were Christians. And there was a survey done years ago to try to figure out what made our forefathers tick. Why did they make the decisions they made?

They poured over 15,000 documents, found 3400 direct quotes. They came to the conclusion that when our forefathers made decisions that 34% of the time they made them directly from the Scriptures and that they were influenced by the Scriptures 94% of the time. So that's where we came from. And we're troubled today because there's a movement right now across our country and many of our liberal institutions to do away with the First Amendment. And there's nothing wrong with our First Amendment. It has steered us through a lot of difficult times. And the average length of the nations of the world who have had constitutions, literal constitutions, through the history of the world has been 17 years. And here we are 240 plus years having been guided by this great constitution that was put in place.

And so we're standing up. We're going to Raleigh and we're asking people from North Carolina to come to Raleigh behind the North Carolina Legislative Building and let's let people know that we're standing up for our Constitution, especially the First Amendment. I'm sure you're aware of the fact that our governor tried to shut our churches down during this pandemic. And he shut the churches down to 10 people, a minimum of 10 people. Funeral homes are going to have 50.

Churches are going to have 10. So our organization placed the lawsuit against the governor and we won. And we first of all got a stay by a federal judge. And then after the stay, two weeks out, we scheduled to have a suit in court.

The following Tuesday, he called our attorney and said, we're going to let you have what you want. So through our organization, we got the churches of North Carolina opened back up so they could go back and worship. This is the organization that's bringing people now to Raleigh to say, let's stand up for our flag. Let's let everybody know we don't think it should be trampled upon. We don't think it should be burned. We don't think people should turn their back against it when the national anthem is playing. We bow before the people of the North Carolina and we bow before Jesus, but we stand up for the flag.

That is so cool. And Rob, I'm curious, when you got on the radio today, what were you hoping to share with our listeners that we want to make sure gets said? Well, the Rescue Mission, and not just the Durham Mission, but we're just an extension of God's people. Our Lord said, I was hungry and you gave me food and people wondered when.

You know, the Lord said, and as much as you've done in one of these places, my children done it unto me. The Rescue Mission wants to be the hands that be. You know, not everybody can handle the addicted and the homeless person and do everything that they need to be done, but we want to be that venue through which the people of God reach out to the needy in our world. Right, and what an opportunity, because I don't think there's anybody that doesn't pull up to an intersection or one, and we see this homeless person, we think, God, I don't want to not do something for this person, but by the same token, I don't want to enable them into some place. So, you know, just a business card or something from your local Rescue Mission to say, hey, you know, there's a better way, guys.

Please, you know, can I— They need so much more than just a dollar. They need so many more services, and as I indicated earlier, homelessness isn't a lack of homes. Homelessness is a lack of hope. It's a lack of relationships.

It's a means of loneliness, and this pandemic and all the shutdowns, it just exacerbated it. I personally, I bet I know of 25 to 30 people that have died from OD's over this past year, and it's just simply because so many places like the Mission, we've had to shut down different things and couldn't do everything we wanted to do and other places. The services haven't been there, and people are dying because what they need is hope and what they need is the Lord. Yeah, and it's such an interesting time to live in, right? To be challenged with new opportunities, and I don't, you know, we've got to lean on Jesus more than ever before, don't we? That's right, that's right, and as you indicated, the world, it seems to be falling apart around us, but he knows what he's doing.

He's got it all under control, and we just need to keep our eyes on him. Yeah, and what an opportunity it is to me to, like, if you go hear these stories. I'm sure you guys have banquets in other places where you're, the guys who've come through your program share what God's done in their life.

Thank you for bringing that up. We've got one December 10th. If anybody wants to come to our banquet, we're going to have it at the Sheraton in Durham, right off of I-40. If you have never been to one of these banquets, let me just tell you, the West Salem Rescue Mission's banquet just was over, but they'll have another one next year, but I'm going to tell you, it's one of the neatest things you'll ever go to, because here comes this guy.

He's been addicted. He had no hope, but God, in these cases, is the one that turns the deal around, and it's quite obvious who the hero of the story is, and you get to see God at work, and so that's December 10th, and have you guys, website, is it just durhamrescuemission.com? .org, yes, durhamrescuemission.org. durhamrescuemission.org, how easy is that, and so how do people get connected with, you know, Stand Up for America, Pastor?

returnamerica.org. We send out newsletters. They can go there and sign up and get a newsletter every time we send one out. There are actually flyers there now that can be downloaded and printed off for pastors to share with their churches, for individuals to get. We have the information there.

We will also have parking information next week on our website for people to park, and the Rescue Mission is reaching all of these people, and that's so wonderful. They have a great ministry, and one of the things we're standing up for when we stand up for America, the 29th behind the legislative building, is the unborn. They don't have a voice. Some 63 million have been killed in their mother's womb.

I figured that up the other day. The amount of children who have been killed in their mother's womb would depopulate Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, and Florida. That's how many people have been killed in the mother's womb, and so we're going to Raleigh to say, among other things, we've got to stand up for the unborn. Darrell Bock Yeah, we've got to stand up, and what a way to show that, you know, we're still voting with our feet, and that we're still here, and we still want what's right, and we have a voice because, like you said, our forefathers paid dearly, dearly, dearly for us to have that right, to go have the right to stand up and say, this is what we believe, this is what we like, and in a humble way, right?

Because, you know, that's the idea. When my people are called by my name, I'll humble themselves, right? And will there be some prayer involved?

I'm just guessing. Dr. Darrell Bock Oh, yes. Yeah, well, there'll be preaching for sure with the Lieutenant Governor. He's really not a politician, he's a preacher, and when he comes front and center, he's got something to say, and we're looking forward to him saying it at our Stand Up for America rattling in Raleigh. Darrell Bock Okay, and that's coming again October 29th. As we talked about, you can find out more about that at Truth Network, or as the pastor just said, or if you want to find out more about the Durham Rescue Mission, you heard, DurhamRescueMission.org. Now good news, God in Hollywood is coming on next, followed by Encouraging Prayer. There's so much more coming at you today.

Announcer You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Darrell Bock Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the Kingdom, and we have our God in Hollywood segment How Fun Is That? with our good friends, Paul Long, Brad Silverman, and today their special guest, Jared O'Flattery, which sounds a bit Irish, but anyway, I'm excited about that. So Brad, take it away. Brad Silverman Thank you.

How are you doing, Robbie? Darrell Bock I'm excited, and I'm excited to meet Jared. Brad Silverman Well, you know, I can't say his name without saying Jared O'Flattery.

I can't do it. Yeah, Jared's become a good friend. Now, you got Paul and I here. Now, Jared is the creator of a TV show called Vindication. Now, I don't use this term loosely or lightly, but this is a unique TV show. Now, I describe Vindication as a sort of a detective story, it's a crime drama with a distinctly Christian worldview. Now, Jared, how do you describe Vindication?

Jared O'Flattery Yeah, I think that's a good description for it. You know, when people think of crime dramas, they think they're usually focused on how heinous a crime could be and how evil the bad guy was. Our show tends to dig deeper into what's going on in people's lives, whether they're a suspect or a witness. And throughout those investigations, throughout those situations, God always seems to make himself known in some way.

So, like your use of the word unique, that's kind of how we go about it. Instead of, you know, taking place in a church service or having a scripture pop up on the screen, it's more of an organic way for God to reveal himself throughout the episodes and throughout the investigations. Jon Streeter Yeah, that's awesome. Now, Paul and I from Kappa Studios, we are continually looking for these gems, these diamonds in the rough. You know, we're based out of beautiful downtown Burbank. And we're always looking for those incredible films or TV shows that we believe can portray God to the culture, right from where we are in Hollywood, hence, God in Hollywood. Now, Paul, you've said a number of times, you've talked about two shows, two TV shows coming into the sound of the year that you thought were like, you called the most anticipated shows.

Talk about that for a minute. Paul Jay Oh, yeah, it's really true. It's quite interesting how this whole thing came together. But I think the chosen and vindication are often nowadays in the same sentence discussed and referenced, because they're projects that are shot well, written well, you know, conceived well, they say everything about them, and they have a God component or gospel components in them each episode. So we think there's a big benefit there. And this particular project has been with vindication has just been a joy for us to be a part of. We're excited, and we hope they do a lot more. And we were thrilled to be a part of it through the Christian Film Finishing Fund.

Jon Streeter Yeah, so exactly. So Jared, now, you had, first of all, how did you come up with the vindication? What was the focus behind that? Jared You know, if I were to be totally honest, our very first episode, which became our pilot episode at the time, we didn't know it was going to be a series. It was just our first step into this genre and this storytelling approach. When I sent it over to our composer, the first episode for him to start writing music for it.

He's a very talented individual, smart guy. And I said, Hey, we've got this thing, but we don't have a name for it yet. What do you think, you know? And he watched it and came back and said, what about vindication? And it just, it immediately stuck because, you know, obviously vindication is a biblical term. It's in the Bible a few times, talks about mankind, you know, being guilty, but then found innocent through the blood of Christ and dealing with the crime stuff that we're working around with the suspects and evidence and things of that nature. It just had a great double meaning for stories that we're trying to tell.

But yeah, I can't claim that it was my, you know, my deep knowledge and intellect that brought this term about it was our composer really who came up with it. And it's just been wonderful. That's awesome. So you just finished season two. You just wrapped season two and you just released season two.

Where can people see vindication? How many episodes, where are the seasons, where can they find this show? Yeah. So vindication season two and season one now are Pureflix original series. So the streaming service Pureflix for those that aren't familiar with it, you know, like Netflix or Hulu, but it focuses on the faith and family content.

And we're excited to have them as a partner. The series would be continuing if it wasn't for what they have done. So I believe today they have released the seven of 10 episodes in season two. So it's a subscription service. They have a free trial you can get on, watch it there.

There are some that like to binge watch a little bit more that they don't want to sit and wait for it. So you do have the ability to purchase it on Amazon and stream it there. And then also Redeem TV is another, it's a donor funded free streaming service.

They're one of our production partners as well. And that's also another option. I think if you go in and donate, you get a t-shirt and can have access to the episodes there. So multiple options and coming out on DVD. I saw somebody just yesterday email me, Hey man, I just got the first DVD that I ordered of vindication.

So lots of options for those. That's cool. And what's your, what's your background in filmmaking and what, what, what inspired you to get into filmmaking and, and we'll talk more about this show maybe after the break, but what inspired you, how'd you get into filmmaking to begin with? To be honest with you, I'm very unqualified in filmmaking.

I never, never went to college. My highest level education was high school. When I got out of high school, I was doing some, some youth events with our church and they needed somebody to pick up a camera and start capturing these events so that they could show the church, show the parents what their students were doing. So I did that for about 10 years. And, you know, obviously we tried to hone my craft through editing and camera techniques and all those sorts of things. It was, it was really self-taught over the course of about a decade.

And once a higher quality equipment was able to reach in the hands of consumers, you know, when HD stuff came out and, and with editing and all of that that's when I kind of started stepping into narrative and scripted film work. So I don't have really a big fancy background that got me here just more. I was, it was something I was called to do and, and God equipped me. This is why you're on, this is why you're on Kingdom Pursuit. This is exactly what Robbie does is he brings on folks that have a passion for Christ that want to serve him and see how God unfolds that.

So that's exciting. It's just another confirmation of the work that Robbie's doing. It just, for me, that was always my heart for somebody that thought, gee, I feel God telling me to write a book or God's telling me to, to make a movie, even though I don't have a clue. That's why I love, I love the Christian film finishing fun.

I love the vindication cause I have a Pure Flix and I love Pure Flix, but I didn't know about vindication. So man, you could just count on the fact I'm going to be binging vindication. Cause you know, if you guys, here's what, here's what I know, right? Cause Brad and Paul, you know, they've worked on The Chosen and all these guys know what they're doing.

And if they say this is one of those that you need to, I'm telling you that, that's what, that's what you need to do. Not to mention that Selfie Dad is on Pure Flix, right? And you guys got a big award this, this, was it last week or? Yeah, we just received, we just actually said a note out about that. We, on the top 15 projects of the year, we were number two under, what was it, Brad? Was it, I still believe? Yeah, I still believe.

Got the number one slide, we get the number two slide. Hey, we're like Avis, we try harder. We'll get in there. Well, you got to still believe, that's the deal. Yeah, that's good. So yeah, we were grateful to be on that. It was a great honor to be a part of that. And look, Brad has done some great work and we, the Lord lifted us up on that project. And certainly that was a neat opportunity, but we just think that this is all under the banner of projecting the messages of hope into the culture, and that's really what we want to see done. And a long time ago, Brad actually was talking about this subject, and everybody's got different lanes on the freeway in terms of the faith and family world. And the lane that Jared is in right now is a little bit different from our lane or other lanes, but all of them are going the same direction, point people to Christ. And so I think there's room and space and absolutely viable, vital nature of each project. And as long as they're pointing people to God, giving the gospel myths, any number of those things are great, but they're all moving down that same road. And when he said that, I really liked that.

Oh, it's so beautiful. And I don't know about you, but I'm excited to hear more from Jared, Brad, and Paul on God in Hollywood. So, you know, I just couldn't be more excited about this new segment that God has given us here on Kingdom Pursuits, because he's doing so many amazing things in so many different venues and so many different lanes, as you just pointed out, Paul. So when we come back, we're going to hear more from my friends, Brad and Paul and Jared. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build a kingdom, especially with God in Hollywood.

Right now on Kingdom Pursuits, we have our good friends Paul and Brad and Jared—Paul and Brad being with Kappa Studios in Hollywood, and Jared with the TV show on Pureflix called Vindication. So how exciting, Brad? It is.

It is. It's exciting on so many levels, Robby. I look at vindication at a couple levels as a success story. So, you know, a big passion, as you know, for Paul and I is to not only find content that honors God, that is quality, but we want to, you know, use all of our experience and resources, just kind of wrap around it, and just try to hopefully get it to the next level, right, of professionalism, because we want this Christian content to be as comparable, if not better, than anything that secular Hollywood has to offer. So we have, as you mentioned earlier, Robby, our Christian film finishing fund and our Adopt a Filmmaker program, and Jared was one of the first recipients of some of this funding. We had a donor step up. Jared needed some finishing funds to complete episode two, some of the post-production of episode two, and we had a donor step up and give a tax-deductible donation to see Jared finish his project.

So, Jared, I don't think I've ever asked you this. What was it like when you were told, hey, you had a donor step up to help you get to the finish line on the show? Yeah, well, that was just, you thank God and know that he somehow had a hand in it. I don't know if this donor had seen the show, if they were even aware of it, or were doing it in faith, you know, but we realized we had some limitations in our post-production budget, and, you know, we're coming up with contingency plans and ways to try to get it finished based on what we had, you know, we'll take what God provided and stretch it as far as we can. And then to hear that this opportunity came up, it's almost like, well, he had a plan all along, and that was to be able to to be able to get us to the highest level that we could on the post-production side. So, you know, it was just one of those, oh wow, okay, he's still very much with us in this project and wanting to see it get to the finish line.

That's awesome, dude. Now, Paul, talk about what do you look for when you're looking for projects that you want to wrap around and you want to help and you want to raise the quality of Christian content? What goes through your mind as you're looking at different projects that you're deciding, okay, this is the project that I definitely want to help?

That's a good question, Brad. You know, the way we actually do it is, we do it through prayer, and Brad and I will sit down and look at each project, see what's going on. We like to meet and know the people and see what their heart is. So first we're looking at the people, see what they're doing, what's their mission, where are they going, and why, what is this all about? And then secondly, okay, now let's look at the messaging. And sometimes we do it together, because those are the twin currencies. It's the heart of a man and what the product is, so the things that we can get behind.

So yeah, so we try to do it in that way to make sure that we are being god-led instead of just doing it ourselves. And it's a joyful thing. And I'll tell you, one of the favorite things Brad and I love doing is making that phone call and letting people know, hey, guess what? This family has decided to donate, get behind you or in the general fund, and we're going to do it somehow. You're going to finish your project.

That is super fancy. We love doing it. Yeah, I feel like the other God in Hollywood segments, I feel like it's been like this telethon sales pitch, right?

I never wanted to be that. We just want to report what's going on and the things we're able to put our hands to and help out. At the same time, it's been such a blessing. I mean, it's selfish on my end, Paul, that when donors step up, I love talking about this Adopt a Filmmaker program because it's like, as you said, to call Jared and say, Jared, guess what? Someone just donated X amount of dollars for your project.

So it's kind of a blast. By the way, if anyone wants to see the upcoming project that we have in the works, you can go to kappastudios.com, check out our Adopt a Filmmaker program. You can just reach out to it. Just contact us through Kappa Studios. We'll send you a list of all the project stuff.

There's nothing else. You can just see what's in the works at Kappa Studios. Jared, on that point, what do you have in the works? Is this your full-time job doing vindication? What do you do?

Do you have this? Do you have other projects? Obviously, if you're doing a series, that's going to occupy a ton of your time.

What's going on in the world of Jared? Yeah. So vindication has been all-encompassing at least for the last 14, 15 months, I would say, maybe even before that. So it has been my full-time work. I mean, working with the, again, limited resources that we have, we don't have a team of 200 people working behind the scenes like major studios would to get this thing made. So it's a lot of work, a lot of long hours, 60, 70-hour weeks, that sort of thing.

So that has been my full-time work for the past 15 months. Our season two just started coming out September 1st. It's 10 episodes. Once all 10 of those are out, it's not a spoiler for me to say the way the season wraps up certainly lends itself that a third season would be appropriate. So we're making phone calls and kind of weighing things and seeing if God opens those doors for us to do a third season. But, you know, we want to let season two come out before we get too far ahead and see what He has to store there. But that's really the hope. I think there's more good stories to tell, and we just want to piece up some stuff, man.

Love you, Jared. Yes. How wonderful, wonderful. I know our listeners are excited. Again, it's on Pure Flix.

It's called Vindication. And of course, we've got Kappa Studios. If you want to find out more about the Christian Film Finishing Fund. Thank you, Brad. And Paul and Jared, you guys are awesome. Thank you, Robbie. God bless you.

It's always so fun to have you guys. And right now, I'm going to tell you an encouraging prayer. Interestingly, James Banks is going to head towards the 23rd Psalm as well, followed by Masculine Journey. Starts here now at 12 o'clock. And then it's time to man up with Nikita Kolov. The Russian nightmare is coming at you at 1230. Stay tuned. So Much Truth coming at you.

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