Missions, Missions

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Now, live from the Truth Booth, your host, Robbie Dilmore. Welcome to Kingdom Pursuits. I'm Jerry Mathis from Ray's Body Shop and Wrecker Service Christian Body Shop Guy from. Christian Car Guy Radio, and I'm filling in for Robbie this morning. He is on vacation, and I hope he's having a good time and enjoying himself.

And we'll be back next week, and I know everybody will be glad to have him back. This morning, man, what a show. And I'm calling this show Missions, Missions, Missions, because we're going to talk about missions and the opportunity and just sort of. Hopefully, maybe ignite people to get involved into local churches or as individuals into the. Opportunity to serve in missions, and there's so many opportunities.

I'm going to read a couple passages, and just to kind of get things rolling. And this morning in the studio with me, I have a Derek and Yvonne Mashamande, and I'm going to tell you what. When I get to say my favorite people This is a brother and sister that is my favorite people. I mean, anytime I'm around them and able to spend time and we're able to just talk and just talk about what God's doing in their lives and in the world and in Zimbabwe, man, it just gets me excited and stuff. And I'm also going to spend some time talking about, I just got home from a mission trip in Jamaica, a little bit different because we've been away for a while.

We're going to talk a little bit about that. But kind of getting it kicked off, I'm on a couple of passages that I go back to as kind of. points me Into the missions and why it's important.

Now, to go all the way back to the Old Testament, there's this one passage in 1 Chronicles 16:24, declare his glory among the nations, his marvelous deeds among all people. I mean, even in the Old Testament, there's the message of how important it is to share the good news of. The gospel of Jesus Christ. New Testament, the one passage that everybody knows, and it's probably every mission statement is tied to this one right here because, yeah, it's sort of like the poster child for doing missions. It's Matthew 28, 18 to 20.

Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations. Baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you, and I am surely with you always to the very end of age. Matthew just says it all right there. And the other piece of that is not just.

Telling them about Jesus, it's talking about. baptizing them into The family. And also Teaching them and training them up. And so it doesn't mean you just, you know, and I think it's important to me, and I'm going to kind of pause on this for just a second, is that longevity and consistency in ministry. It's great to go and minister.

And be able to do a one-time event or a one-time mission trip or support one thing one-time, it does. tremendous things. But longevity and consistency makes a big difference. I mean, all of a sudden, you start building relationships and then it. By those relationships, they're able to continue the ministry even when you're not there.

And then this also gives encouragement to know that you're not a one-time, it's not a one-time one-hit wonder. You're going to be back and stuff. And I went back, and I go back in time and. Mary, who used to be with the coal mine mission. up in West Virginia and Kentucky area and stuff, taught me something years ago when my daughter I was we got involved with them a little bit 'cause I wanted Taylor to to see mission work and that that how privileged she was for what she has, that there's people even in the United States that have nothing that we take for granted.

But I went up there and one of the things she told me is You know, it's important that that that That ministry through missions Consistency is so important that it, you know, a lot of churches and organizations will come up and bring food and hand out a little pamphlet and then they never see them again. And she said the difference is Because by the time she told me this on about my second or third trip up there, she said, you know, the consistency, because then they see a familiar face and they see that, you know what? Maybe Jesus is real and you're able to do that.

Well, through the in in the village. I mean Derek and Yvonne, is that I just see that. I know that through What I see, I feel like I have brothers and sisters there because of the consistency and stuff. And what's your take on that? Throwing a question out there because it just means so much, in my opinion.

Yeah, good morning, everybody. And it is an honor to be sitting here with Brother Jerry Mathis from Ray Body Shop. And definitely is the place to take your vehicle if you have anything that gets damaged to the vehicle. And we love it. I would like to say definitely consistency makes a world of difference in ministry because once people get to know you and to see you and to love you, when you get into the village, especially or into places such as Jamaica, when you meet with the people, you minister to them, you share the gospel with them, you stay in their locality with them.

For days, and then you pray with them, and just that community that you built with them makes a world of difference because then they know that you really care. You are meeting, you are really walking where Jesus walked because you are right there with them and you are demonstrating the love of Christ Jesus to these people that desperately need to hear that there's somebody beyond what they know that cares enough.

So, community and consistency is huge in ministering to people, especially on foreign lands and even local, like he mentioned about the Virginia area. You know, when you go out there and they see you, come back again and again, and they have a relationship with you, it's also relational. When people get to know and they understand how much you. you care about them, then they definitely see the practical Jesus in you. Then they say, I want to do this very thing that you believe in as well.

Yeah, go ahead, go to Bon. And I just would like to add the encouragement.

So anytime you're there and you're encouraging them and it's consistent encouragement, because their lives are very difficult and very hard.

So anytime they're getting that outside encouragement, it gives them hope and they're able to face the challenges knowing that there is hope and people who care about them. Yeah, uh That part, the encouragement stuff. And this year, when I went to Jamaica, one thing that was kind of hard, it was the first time I've been on a trip. There was a young man that had been. And Grew up in doing VBSs that we were doing in the broadleaf community and stuff.

And this was a guy that was a a knothead, I'll say, and and stuff. But I saw him grow and his relationship with Jesus Christ grow. And this past year he ended up getting shot and killed.

So it was the first time being back without him there. And another young man, this is Marlon. Another young man, Chucky, was killed on a motorcycle wreck. And these were Two of the guys that were young men, had families, but they still were consistently coming back and was always involved when I was there. going back was kind of hard and and one of the people that Robin Spainauers teaches with me when we're there and And I said, you know, to her, we were talking, I said, you know what?

I know that I didn't. I mean I don't know what my part was in introducing him to Jesus Christ, but I feel I did my part. And I feel that, you know what, they live, it's the same thing in Zimbabwe. It's a different life and stuff and different pressures. And I know it was a lot of that.

But I knew he knew Jesus Christ, and I felt like he was in heaven. Amen. And sometimes we get hooked up on the cultural stuff and don't understand. It's different. Just so we need to make sure we speak truth and show truth and show the love of Jesus Christ.

We'll be back in just a moment. You're listening to The Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits in the studio with me, Derek and Avon. I want to also give out a the Information as far as their ministry goes. And we're going to talk, I'm going to give the floor to them after I give this out.

And they may want to give it out again just to make sure you get it and stuff. We're going to talk a little bit about the trip they just went on and how you could get involved with them and stuff. And one of the things I ask everybody to do: you don't even have to have a website to do this, man, lift them up in prayer. That's the most important thing we can do to help the ministry and stuff. But it's Musha Monday Christian Foundation.

And I think you can probably just, and I'll spell it out: M-U-S-H-A-Y. A M U-N-D-A. Foundation, Christian Foundation. You can just put that in, and I think that'll take you to the website. If not, it's just spelled out mushroomundaychristianfoundation.org, if I'm not wrong.

I had to verify that this morning to make sure I didn't, because I probably have at different times gave the wrong information out. But What y'all were doing there, and Derek Enovon's story. I mean, this is their native country and stuff, and they still have a passion for the people there and stuff. And the passion is, you know, we live in a world that has so many pressures from so many different places and stuff. And I think it's so important.

That's why missions are so important in my mind and stuff. locally and I'm going to talk ju before I give the floor to them. In our Sunday school class at Pinedale Christian Church. There's people in that class who will never go on the mission field. but they feel they're part of the mission because we try to make it where it's possible.

part of the class and stuff and open the eyes that you know what God's, we have brothers and sisters outside of Winston-Salem or outside of North Carolina or outside of the United States. We have brothers and sisters throughout the world that are struggling and stuff, and how can we support them? And one is through prayer. The other thing is to support trips and stuff.

So in our Sunday school class, we really buy into that. And then we also at Pinedale, we do a 40-day study in February Well, I guess it's yeah, February mostly about that month is five weeks. And For my group, all the groups are handled different, they have different leaders, and I lead a group where I lead is probably the wrong word. I'm there and get the group started because it's just amazing how God works through that. But one of the things we do is we kind of do a little focus on missions and stuff.

And it's, you know, we talk about Jamaican missions and through Pinedale Christian Church. And you can get information on that through Pinedale Christian Church or pinedalechurch.org. There's an opportunity to get plugged in and to support that and other missions throughout the world. But also, we talk about Zimbabwe and the trip there, and it is amazing to me how people, once they see that need and how God is working in those areas, man, how excited they are. I mean, because I have.

People every week in our 40-day group will come up. I'll see them in the hall, and they're saying, Do you have any more videos from Derek and Yvonne that they've got sent? And I'll Sherwin's one of the guys that I'll see every week, and he wants me to show him any video, new video we have, and stuff. And it's just an encouragement and stuff. And I know that y'all just got back from a trip.

And also, again, just anytime you want to inject the website in there, but just tell me a little bit about the trip and also tell me about how important it is to be able to go back to your own. Country, your own village, and share the gospel of Jesus Christ because there's a lot of different organizations out there and religious movements that are trying to fill that void. And there's a lot of void out there. And thank goodness we got people that are willing to do it for the gospel of Jesus Christ.

So, Derek or Navon, one of you step up, you get the floor first. Yeah, it has truly been a blessing to have been one of those people who were plucked out of the village. And that could have just not happened by itself, but it was God ordained, it was God-orchestrated, it was God. Blessed to where I was one of those people who was picked up from the many people way out in the sticks, in the, you know, you can describe it, you know, where there was no roads, no nothing, but to be able to be picked up from there and to be able to come to the United States, you cannot just say it happened, but I called it a miracle, you know.

So everything that happens to me, they become miracles. And so being one of those people who was privileged, who was blessed, who was granted this baton. Me and Yvonne have taken upon ourselves to say we should never forget and what God has done for us because He has put us here into this amazing country, the United States of America, and be able to have such brothers and sisters such as Brother Jerry Mathers and the Covenant class and others at Pinedale and beyond who have embraced us and just become family. And through that, we have been able to go back to the native country, a village, to be specific and just bless the people there in practical ways because these are people way in the sticks, in the remote parts of the country, who otherwise, you know, just everything that happens, just getting water is a miracle, getting something to eat is a miracle. Pencil is a miracle.

So, when we take those little things to them, then they see the practical Jesus. When you say Jesus loves you and he cares about you, then they say, Oh my goodness, we can see that now. You're going to the United States was a miracle, so you are coming back to bless us.

So, now they understand things that happened to them as blessings, not as culturally and ritually being African and Africa-related traditions, but God-connected and ordained. Yeah, I know before Yvonne says 'cause I'm supposed to stop once talking about the pencils. I tell you, the first time I saw the picture, That Derek and Yvonne shared with me of the kids. And it was probably, I remember that picture, and this has probably been years ago, the first time I saw where he gave out. pencils and it must have been I don't know, it it looked to me the picture looked like it was two thousand kids out in the field and they were just the smiles on their face and they were holding up a pencil.

A pencil, just let that sink in. A pencil. Vaughan, go ahead.

So for us, I think it's just making that connection When we are in the United States, we realize that people are so blessed. And then when you go to the village, people there are lacking. There is so much needs, and some of those needs are so heartbreaking. But for us to make the connection where the Christians here in the United States are helping support, helping us with supplies, whenever we go, we do need those supplies.

So just making that connection and then being able to bring it to the people that just brings God's people together, and it's an amazing way to show the love of Jesus. Yeah, and I know on this the trip y'all we just got back from, I think the church in went with you from Ohio? Mm-hmm. What was the name of that church? And yeah, North Side.

North Side. I mean You know, uh That's what we're called to do. And that's just exciting to me and stuff. And I know that. We were talking about it, I think, off air, where sometimes when you go and you get a group, because I know when a group comes from Northside or from Pinedale or whatever, I know on the trip I just got back, one of the things I know that the new people that go on the first mission trip like that, The culture is so different, and you're used to going, and at the end of the day, Turning your air up and having hot water to take a shower.

Well, all of a sudden, that's gone. And It takes you a little bit of time to adjust to that 'cause I I I don't know how how how often this is for you, but There's been multiple times I've had people with their first mission trip when I would go to Jamaica that would be in my group that I'll sit down and they're saying, If somebody could take me back to Montego Bay, I'll catch the next plane out and I'll be happy because I didn't know it was going to be like this. But those same people always say, just give it a day or so and just let your body and your mind all recalibrate on what's important and stuff. By the end of that week, Well, by the time you're ready to come back from the trip, those that were struggling with it are like, I can't believe I wish I could stay another week. I wish I could stay another, just another day.

I mean, All of a sudden. Going and putting your feet on the ground is just so important. But also, I think a lot of times people get that who just, for years, I said to. To my Sunday school class, to Taylor, my daughter, who went on the first out-of-the-country mission trip to Jamaica. She went and read my neighbors, Red Haynes, and Chick Plunkett had to be her guardian because she was under 16.

And I told her, I said, Well, if you do it and you like it, I'll go next year.

Well, I had a prayer. My prayer was that she wouldn't like it because I didn't want to go. I'd always told myself, I'm a sender. I'm a sender. I'll help send.

I'll help send. Well, there's a blessing in that, believe me, because it's it blesses me and warms my heart every time I get to contribute and help with Derek and Yvonne, and I hope and pray that it won't be too long that I'll be able to make that trip. But just because of running a business and stuff and commitments and stuff here, That's no excuse, but I've not been able to do it, and also because I've been committed to the Jamaican trip and stuff. When I finally did it, it changes everything. You kind of get a different perspective of it and stuff.

And I can tell you a story back. Early on, I was teaching a VBS in Broadleaf. And I know you probably, Derek and Von's probably heard this story because I probably said it in Sunday school. But it kind of put things in perspective for me. How well first thing when we went, Our These crafts we do.

I'm teaching my class is 14 and above, and my class at the time was I could have 40 people in there, and they could be for 14 to 40. You know, it was a big span. And I'll get back to this when we come back from the break because it's kind of a neat story and stuff. But also, we hear more from Derek and Yvonne on what's going on. And again, thank you for listening to Kingdom Pursuits.

We're back in a moment. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits with Derek and Yvonne and Musha Monday Village. The Mushroom Monday Christian Foundation is the website that you can go. And you know what?

One thing about going to that website, and now Derek and Yvonne can come Can chime in on this in just a moment, but it gives you an opportunity. One thing is to go to it and just look at some of the pictures and some of the statements and stuff. And you know what? Just your your personal prayer time, just lift it up in prayer. And then if God lays on your heart to get in and get involved, man, there's there's it's uh touching a lot of lives and stuff.

When we go back to when I first one of the first trips in early on, uh as I said, we don't have things aren't really For what you'd in the United States have age-appropriate stuff. I mean, we got, I've got, as I said, 14 to 40-year-olds, and we have these crafts that we do at the end of the lesson. The lesson is basically a real elementary lesson. I kind of rewrite it a little bit and do it where it's more relevant. But me and Robin looked at each other one time and said, These people are going to think we're crazy making some of these little mm-hmm.

Elementary looking things, but man, it's just having the attention and stuff, man. They dive into that as if it was the greatest thing in the world and stuff.

Well, probably after going a first couple of years there, one of the Crafts we had, and I'm sure if everybody's been in BBS or taught elementary kids, you take a piece of card. Cord. paper, uh, stock or or poster paper, the harder And you make this Bible out of it, and you fold it and tape it or glue it, and it opens up, and it's a box with a looks like a Bible, and you color it and write Bible on it.

Well, we had people in our class write their favorite Bible verse when it opened up.

Well, the next year after doing that, we are up on up in Broadleaf on the up on the the hill, up in the mountain right there. And we have our classes outside and it's hot because we're under tarps and it's Bacon and this one young man, which at the time he must have been fifteen years old, I'm thinking comes up to me as I'm getting ready to start doing the lesson. He was late getting up there. and but he had a brown bag and he was going Uh uh Mr. Jerry, I want to show you something.

Mr. Jerry, I kept saying, Sit back down. I'm ready to start. You can show me afterwards. He says, Let me just show you.

It won't take but a minute. Let me show you something. He's in the bag, and I said, If you don't sit down, I'm going to send you down the hill. I'm ready to get started. You can show me afterwards.

Well, he sat down. I'm looking at him, and I could see the disappointment on his face. But I went ahead and we did the lesson, then we did our craft, we did our Bible verse. And at the end of it, he comes back up and he says, All I wanted to do is just show you. And he opened up his bag and pulled that little Bible that he had made and opened it up and said, Every night I read this verse before I go to bed.

And man. Mm. Uh Made me feel, I'm going to tell you what, I was about two inches tall, but also it taught me a lesson. I mean, just how. Little things that we take for granted in this country and in our lives.

you know, the impact it may make, 'cause that's just something that I didn't even think enough. That day I never thought about those little Bibles again that they made. But it made a difference in somebody it made a difference in his life. And when you're on the trip, Derek, when y'all are in Zimbabwe, when you're at the village, I mean, I know you see that daily.

So Yeah. Yeah. And especially with the widows. Because anytime we get with the widows and we sit down and we're working with them. All the crafts that they do, they just love and they really soak it in.

And the reason that they do this is because it takes it. It you know, these moments take them out of just day-to-day life. And they're doing something that's precious, that they love. And if you go in the h huts and you're visiting in the village homes, most of the time, you will see those crafts that they made at VBS displayed somewhere in the house. And it's like years later, you can see the wear and the tear, but they still have those crafts and they think they're precious and they're so dear to them.

Yeah, so that just being practical with the gospel, like you did at Broadleaf with the young man, and he made that Bible and the verse that he looked at and said he would never go to sleep without looking at that verse or reading it. And again, like you say, in the village schools, even the schools, we find out that you will find somebody who is 11 years old with a seven-year-old because it's the timing when the parents may be able to afford to send them to school. And at that moment they go to school, they may be with the seven-year-old and the 11-year-old or 12-year-old.

So it's just a mixed bag. But these people are just so grateful for opportunities. And so when we come and tell them Jesus loves them, this is why he opens these doors for them to be able to have the Bible, to do. vocational Bible school with them, to give them a pencil. Which they call a miracle.

So all these things become miracles when you talk about Jesus and miracles. Then they see these as practical things that are real, that it still happens to them. And then they say, We want to follow this Jesus you are talking about because we see the practical part of this Jesus you are talking about. Because now you are at a place where you are putting Matthew 25, verse 38 to 43 in practical ways. I saw you hungry, you visited me when I was sick, you came and prayed for me when I was naked, you dressed me.

Everything that we did and we do that we may just do as part of, you know, it's just a pencil. What does this have to do? But that person who received the pencil as their first pencil and that they were sent home from school because they didn't have a pencil. Then it becomes a miracle. Then they can go back to it and say, The day that Brother Jerry, even if you were in your Covenant class at Pinedale or whatever church it was, and you decided to send that pencil.

The connection when we get to heaven is, oh my goodness, the pencil you sent me, and you say, when did I do that? You know, but this is what the Bible talks about, the Gospels talk about. When we can be practical with the gospel to where people can see the practical Jesus, then they can say, Jesus truly loves me, you know, and you can hear the kids, the little boys and girls in the village for us in Zimbabwe, in Mushayamunda village, singing, Jesus loves me, yes, I know the Bible tells me so, because now they can see the practical Jesus and sing about him as somebody who is their Lord and Savior. Yeah. Von just said, and also you just hit on it.

Also, is the things that we just take for granted and stuff, like the little craft, and stuff. If you go in there, For years at Broadleaf Church there was crafts hanging that that we had done ten years ago hanging in the side of the church and stuff inside and stuff. You'll see that because they cherish that. It's things we take for granted. And here in the United States, I don't care what age group it is, if you did that in the Sund at church, believe me, that next But the ne within the next hour it's probably in the trash can 'cause it didn't really didn't didn't ha Didn't mean anything to them, but it takes the opportunity to take their mind off of things and just be able to.

Just enjoy something and do it. And share the gospel of Jesus Christ at the same time. Water. I mean, we, everybody this morning that's in the. They can hear our voice could walk, probably walk in within 10 steps and turn a spigot on and get water.

And seeing the videos whenever y'all do a well and that water comes out, I mean, it's just. The joy and stuff, and that's just things that I mean, take for granted. I mean, it's just. You've experienced it. On the ground, you've lived through you've lived through the time where you didn't have running water.

And just share a little bit about that because that to me is one of the the most awesome things I ever ever may be ever able to view and stuff and watch.

So just not having running water, something that you take for granted every morning. you have to get up. And you have to fetch water.

So you're going to find the nearest stream. You're lucky if you have a well nearby because then the wells have the clean water. But in the wells, you have the dirty water. And that's what is the only water that's available to drink and to use during the day. And daily, you do this, morning and evening, so that you have enough water to drink.

All right, we'll be back in just a moment. Kingdom Pursuits. Thank you for listening this morning, and we'll be back with Yevon and Derek. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits.

I'm Jerry Mathis, Ray's Body Shopping Record Service with Vaughn and Derek, and we talk a little bit about missions. I'm going to read one more thing from Romans just because I want to hit these passages about missions. For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. How then can they call the name? How then can they call on the one they have not believed in?

And how can they believe in the one they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written, How beautiful are the feet of those who bring the good news. And I think I think I I read that and I think at the end of it I should say Derek and Yvonne, but uh And then also in Acts 1.8.

Do you do you But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes to you, and you'll be my witness in Jerusalem, all of Judea, Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. That's what God calls us to do: take the gospel. And sometimes, and I will say, sometimes your end of the world could just be in your own home. Take the gospel. Realize that you're a missionary.

You're a missionary. If you're a believer in Jesus Christ, These two passages there tell me You're also a missionary. You're to share the gospel. And it may not be on the other side of the world. It may not be in the island of Jamaica.

It may not be in the Dominican Republic. It may not be in the. Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, coal mines. It may be in your own neighborhood, your school, young people. I encourage you to.

to to be bold because you're in a a hot And a mission field that you probably don't even realize.

So, back to your trip and stuff. A little bit about, just tell me a little bit about how to get in touch with you. And I don't know if I were to give your number right now, because it's easier to do, and I don't. And I do this gently when I ask this. I'm making sure Derek don't say, why'd you give out my number?

But just text him and just ask for information. That way, if you didn't get it all written down and stuff, he'll be glad to send it to you. But his number is, the text is 336-506. 4222130. Again, 336-422-2130.

A little bit about the foundation of what y'all were doing. Yes, again, thank you, Brother Jerry. We just want to continue to say, you know, if you can't, not everybody is a goer on a mission trip, like Brother Jerry says, but some people can be senders. And again, the mission field begins from Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria, and up to the ends of the world.

So even from your neighborhood, it expands until we get to Zimbabwe, the last letter of the alphabet. You know, so you know, coming from America to Zimbabwe.

So that's some of the... A to Z, we got it all covered. Isn't that real? Exactly.

So once we have it all covered, then if you can go, you can send. If you can go, that's a blessing as well because you're going to be practical there.

So, you know, definitely our foundation, Mushaiyamunda Christian Foundation. Is there for orphans, is there for widows, is there for everybody who. Craves for the word of the Lord Jesus Christ, who we don't want to leave behind, you know, when we get to heaven, so that everybody who hears the gospel will be able to respond to the gospel accordingly, so that they can too be part of the kingdom. As we know, we are on kingdom pursuits here. That's all we are about with Musha'a Munda Christian Foundation.

And again, like Brother Jerry said, my number directly, if you can, is 336-422-2130. That we can be reached at. And we are doing amazing things in Zimbabwe. And we would love some people who can even join us in going to Zimbabwe, especially those who would like to go and be on the ground and see the work that's being done. Like Brother Jerry was talking about, the water, just the miracles.

of water. We know even in the Bible when Jesus was at the well that was called Jacob's well, when the woman came who said, oh, he knows all about me, it was at the well where she was able to encounter Jesus.

So when we drill wells and people come to that source of water and draw the water, then they are able to encounter Jesus Christ the Messiah, the living water. From the drinking water that they get.

So, these are some of the projects that we do that are changing lives. Because I grew up where I was walking at least five miles to go to the nearest water source and back.

So, this is something dear to me because I know how tough it is for the little boys and little girls in my village. If you would see some pictures of them carrying five-gallon buckets of water back home, walking three, four miles with a five-gallon bucket of water, and it's a five-six-year-old, then you would understand.

So, this is how we preach the gospel. We preach it in practical ways that makes people see the practical Jesus so that it's easier for them to know that this Jesus we talk about is the true Jesus who cares. Absolutely. Fixing to wrap up again, I just can't tell you how much I'm grateful to have Derek Navon in the studio with me. And again, the website is Mushroom Monday Christian Foundation.

Also, Pinedale Christian Church, you can go to it and admissions. Danny Spainauer is missions minister, opportunity to serve. And also don't want to take, I want to make sure I get the opportunity to say something about Jesus Labor of Love, where we give to widows in the United States and in this area who don't have transportation.

So if you have a car that you're not using, a great opportunity to donate it. If you'd like to give a few dollars, don't take away from your local church, but there's an opportunity. You can go to Kingdom Pursuit and