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Go to TuneIn.com or download the TuneIn app to start listening. Andrew, thank you for taking the time. Yeah, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Absolutely. We know it's been a tough couple of days for the Giants, especially as they were getting ready to honor the Negro Leagues, as well as Willie Tamara in Birmingham. Another loss today, not a great season for the Giants. What have the past 24 hours been like? Yeah, you know, he's 93 years old.
He's been in hospice for a while. You know, we knew that this day was going to come and probably come in the very near future, but it still was just a shock. You know, we all kind of learned about it. You know, just as the game was about to start here at Wrigley Field yesterday, you know, Bob Melvin, the Giants manager, found out just before the game. Wasn't even enough time to call any kind of team meeting, so players were just kind of finding out through the grapevine.
You know, Logan Webb, who's, you know, starting pitcher, his mind is totally locked into the game. He didn't find out until they announced it to the crowd here at Wrigley Field in the sixth inning, and he had to, you know, gesture to the umpire and say, look, I need you to turn the pitch clock off here because I need a second to, you know, just think about Willie and, you know, have a moment to feel some pride about, you know, the cap he's wearing, the jersey he's wearing, knowing that he's representing not only the Giants, but the team of Willie Mays. And, you know, it's I think it's still shocking, even though he was 93 and we knew that this was going to come because, you know, this has been a year in the works to celebrate the Negro leagues at Rickwood. The Giants were were selected to take part in that game because they are the franchise of Willie Mays and Willie Mays played there, got his professional start.
There's a 17 year old with the Birmingham Black Barons. And and so, you know, this was going to be a celebration of Willie regardless. And now obviously it takes on a little more heft. And we knew he wasn't going to be there for the game. And I one of the things that someone from the organization said was, you know, now he can be he wasn't going to be there for the game.
And now in spirit, he will be. And I think a lot of people are really feeling very touched and very vulnerable by as they process their emotions, you know, with losing Willie Mays. Andrew Baggerly is joining us from the athletic covers, the San Francisco Giants. He had I guess we can consider it fortune of having played for the Giants and in both New York and then also San Francisco had to be embraced a little bit more by the fans before people said, hey, he's our guy. When it comes down to the city in the Bay Area, what did Willie Mays mean to the area?
You know, it's kind of complicated and you hinted at it. You know, he was sort of seen as New York's guy when he came to San Francisco. And, you know, they had Orlando Cepeda and Willie McCovey shortly thereafter and Giants fans.
You know, you talk to people of that era of that time. They really latched onto those players as sort of their San Francisco Giants first. Plus, don't forget that that Joe DiMaggio was a San Francisco seal. And so, you know, they sort of identified with him as their center fielder, even though he was a Yankee. So and then, you know, it was not all, you know, roses for Willie Mays, even in San Francisco, which we know is a very progressive city now. Back then, you know, he was redlined and he couldn't buy a house in certain neighborhoods.
He had a bottle thrown through his house and had to move. And, you know, he was subject to as much of the ugliness of that time as anyone in his situation. And so, you know, he really is a figure that transcends baseball in a lot of ways. He's a figure that I think is he's a part of American history and he's a part of Bay Area sports history, of course. And, you know, if you look at him as a baseball player, you know, you think about his numbers as great as they were, they would have been even better if he didn't play a candlestick park, which was just a very inhospitable ballpark.
In fact, you know, I was kind of curious. So I looked it up and I wonder, what did he hit at Wrigley Field? Because we're getting this news here at Wrigley, which is one of two ballparks that are still major league parks where he played regular season games, you know, played an all star game in Fenway, played in a World Series in Oakland at the Coliseum.
But really, it's just Wrigley and Dodger Stadium are the only regular season parks left that are still in use. I thought, well, what did he hit at Wrigley? And Saturday, I'll tell you this, Saturday is the 73rd anniversary of his first game at Wrigley Field. He was a 20-year-old rookie, hitting seventh, if you can imagine that, seventh in the Giants lineup for his first game. And he hit a three-run homer in the 10th inning to give him a nine to six victory. Even from the very get-go, Willie Mays was making an impact.
Still, 54 home runs at Wrigley Field are the most by a visitor ever. And for that record to survive the steroid era and everything, that just tells you Willie was great all the time. He was great when he was young. He was great when he was old. He was great in the clutch.
He was great in a humdrum game in May. And you look back at that 1951 season when there was a 20-year-old Willie Mays who hit that homer in his first game at Wrigley. And that might have changed history because the Giants needed to win every one of those games that season to get into a playoff with the Dodgers. And that, of course, was the platform for Bobby Thompson shot her ground the world. So Willie Mays just touched so much of baseball history and American history.
And I think it's just there's been so many wonderful tributes and things written to him and about him in the last 24 hours. And it's going to continue tomorrow. And there probably won't be a dry eye there at Wrigley Field. Andrew Bagley is here with us from the athletic. When you talk about the team, they haven't been all that well sitting at around five hundred three games under right now. A big free agent acquisition and Blake Snell is out.
I mean, outside of tomorrow, is there any lifting this team up, lifting its spirits in any type of way for the rest of the season? Yeah, they're just kind of another National League team in that sort of big, you know, big pile of the standings here. They're doing some things well, not doing other things well. You know, one thing is they're not a dynamic team. This is not a Willie Mays team. They have the fewest stolen bases in the major leagues. You know, they botched a rundown play today that allowed the Cubs to score an extra run. And then Jorge Soler hits a grand slam that makes it a one run loss.
So you look back at a mistake they made there that otherwise might have cost them the game. And, you know, they do have a lot to look forward to. Robbie Ray's rehab is coming along really well. They do feel like once Blake Snell gets back healthy, which may be in another couple of weeks, that he'll be the second half pitcher that he was last year. That's getting two guys back who won Cy Young awards in the recent past.
And they really feel like they're sort of the team's best position to get a real boost and maybe put together a search. Right now, I mean, there's nobody that separated themselves in this National League wildcard chase. You've got the Braves and then you've got, you know, about four or five games down. You've got the Cardinals, Giants and everybody. I mean, there's everybody's only like two games out of a wildcard spot right now. So, you know, the Giants would like to have created a little more separation, played some better baseball.
You've gotten over 500 and won some more series and climbed from there. You know, sometimes that's how you get in the playoffs is you bank those wins early and then, you know, if you hit turbulence in the second half, you can withstand it. But this is going to have to be a second half team. I think they knew all along that they were probably had a better chance of being a successful second half team.
And now they gosh darn better be because they haven't really been able to separate themselves. The good news is that nobody really has in the National League. And it's still early enough in the season.
Andrew, I want to thank you for taking the time to set some information and perspective on Willie Mays, the baseball player, as well as Willie Mays, the person. Man, I wish I was driving right down the road to Birmingham. I know it's going to be an amazing time.
I'm not a Giants fan, but I certainly will be rooting for them tomorrow on Birmingham against the cards. Where can people follow you and all of your work? Yeah, just at the athletic athletic com. You know, obviously, if you're a New York Times subscriber, subscribe to the Times bundle, then you're able to access all of our work. And I still do it. Twitter. I try not to post too much on there anymore, but I'm on extra bags, extra BHGS. And yeah, I've covered the Giants for the last 21 years. I've known Willie just from seeing him in the clubhouse.
I've never, never got my picture taken with him, never wanted to bother him. You know, but I can tell you that, you know, he would cut it up with us sports writers as much as he would with anyone else. He'd love knowing what our per diem was on the road. He loved knowing what rental cars we were.
We were driving, make fun of us if he didn't think it was a fancy enough car. And, you know, so that's, I'm happy to say I have those personal memories of Willie. I just wish that I'd been born earlier and could have watched him play. Hey, I'm in the same boat. Well, thank you for sharing, Andrew. And hey, enjoy the game tomorrow, man. It should be a good one. Okay. Right. Appreciate it. Good talking with you. Tune in is the audio platform with something for everyone.
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