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I'm very well. Thank you for taking the time to hop on NBA Finals. It looks like we're down to the wire here. What are your thoughts on what we've seen so far, Coach? Boston has been outstanding. They've been the better team.
You know, that first game, they really, you know, was extraordinary in a lot of different ways. They've been high level. They don't really have many weak defenders on their roster.
They can switch. They are two very, very high level player, young players with Tatum and Brown and you add in experience with Drew Holliday and Derek White. So Joe Missoula, their coach, he's he's grown as a head coach. He's got some reinforcements with Coach Lee and Coach Sam Cassell on the bench as his assistants, as he made over a little bit of a coaching makeover with his assistant. And Dallas, unfortunately, they struggle to shoot the basketball. And if you struggle to shoot the basketball, you can put a lot of pressure on your defense. We saw the defense last night at the end of the game come to a disastrous halt, especially with the fouls called on Luka Doncic. Avery Johnson is here with us, the JR Sport Reshow. What would you as a coach tell Luka Doncic after the performance and the histrionics at the end of the game while he fouled out?
What would you tell him? Well, I would just tell the entire team, you know, you control the things that you can control. This is the big boy game. There's no, there's really no room for babies in the NBA finals. I've coached in the finals, I've played in the finals. It's a man's game and you got to be ready mentally and physically.
There are no excuses. You don't want to ever be overly focused on officiating. The team in a sense, you got to focus on the things that you can control. Your preparation, your game plan, getting your mind and your body ready to play, ready to get to the next play. The game is a game of mistakes. But if you are not ready to move on to the next play, you're going to be quantified by having two mistakes at the same time. So it's kind of like in baseball, you don't want double plays, you don't want double errors. But if you turn the ball over, you don't get back on defense, then that's a double mistake.
So try to minimize those. They laser focus on the task at hand and a couple of Luka's fouls. One was in the backcourt 90 feet from the Celtics basket because he thought he got fouled. The other one was at half court when he was trying to reach on Pritchard. So those two fouls, you take away those two, then the foul that he fouled out on, he would only add four fouls.
But you've got to be smarter, locked in and don't allow the referees to become a distraction. Avery Johnson is here with us on the JR Sport Reshow Coast to Coast. When you look at the Dallas Mavericks getting to this point, last year they had Kyrie Irving. They don't even make it to the postseason. They perform worse as this team got together. What needs to be the next step for them to continue to be competitive in a Western Conference that's stacked? Well, I don't think anybody's worried about the Western Conference right now.
They're worried about winning the game. And I think with this next game you've got to figure out, in my opinion, find your best seven players. I think they played 10 or 11 guys last night. That's not going to work.
It's like a crapshoot. So you've got to find your top seven guys. That's going to eliminate a couple of guys from the rotation. Maybe make a couple of adjustments on your defensive rotations. You've got to guard the ball for sure.
And maybe try to put Luke in the post a little bit instead of always isolating him at the top. Coach, we've seen the Boston Celtics get to this point. One went away from the finals. We've heard a lot over the years about Tatum and Brown. How they fit together, how they don't fit together. How have you seen them grow over the years? They've grown. The social media people have talked about that they're not really close and they're fighting each other for attention. But those guys, they're like Scottie and Michael.
They really are. Not now Scottie and Michael. Scottie and Michael from when they play with the Bulls. But they're playing cohesive basketball. They know how to play off each other.
They know when to take over the game. But more than anything, both of those guys are very competitive on the defensive end. They're not one-way players. They're just not offensive players.
Those guys are two-way players. They've improved with their ball handling, decision making. And Tatum was hot in the first half. Brown took over in the second half. That third quarter was extraordinary. Nobody can really beat them with that type of third quarter that they put on.
So it'll be interesting. I just think the Mavericks just got to try to force it to a game five. Get to the free throw line a little bit more. Figure out how to punch the ball inside to some of their big guys when there's a mismatch. And move the ball a little bit.
And get other guys involved in offense. Former NBA player and coach, current analyst Avery Johnson joining us here on the Infinity Sports Network. There's been a lot going on during the finals involving the Los Angeles Lakers with their head coaching search, flirting with Dan Hurley. Now it appears that they're going to go ahead and look at J.J. Redick. What are your thoughts on what the Lakers are doing? It seems kind of slapstick right now. Yes.
It's a tough spot. I think they're trying to probably recreate what Golden State did. And let me remind your listeners. Golden State, when they hired Steve Kerr, who was my teammate on our 1999 championship team. Let me remind everybody. He had won five or six championships as a player. Okay. Five championships.
Probably minimum. I may be off by one. Steve Kerr was an executive and president of the Phoenix Suns. Steve Kerr was a very successful broadcaster and analyst with TNT. He was a part of their top team for a couple of years. And then he got the Golden State Warriors job after Mark Jackson obviously got them to one level and Steve took it to the next level. So to try to recreate, let's bring in another coach.
And I'm happy for J.J. If he gets the job, awesome. I would love to interview him for CBS Sports HQ and if he gets it, wish him well. But, you know, you have a lot of other guys out there like the Sam Casals, one of the top assistants with Boston. We know Coach Lee already got the job with Charlotte.
So I think there are other options. Hopefully they'll have a wider pipeline or pool instead of not just landing on one guy. But give some of these other guys or even, you know, some of the other former head coaches an opportunity. You look at Frank Vogel.
He won a championship with the Lakers and one or two years later he was gone. Darvin Ham takes him to the Western Conference Finals and, you know, a bad matchup with Denver Nuggets and now he's out. The West is tough, as you were talking about earlier. It's stacked.
And, you know, who knows? If Dallas would have played Denver, we don't know if they would have beat Denver. If, you know, some of those other teams that Boston played were healthy and had their best player, you just don't know. But we'll see how that Lakers job turns out. But I hope that not only J.J., but some of these other well-deserved assistants and former head coaches get an opportunity to interview for the job. Avery Johnson is joining us here on the J.R.
Sport Brief Show. You played, you coached, you did it at the college level, the professional level, you named the Vogels and the Hams of the world. Is coaching in the NBA, is there like no security now?
It doesn't matter what you do. The players make so much money. It seems like the coaches get hired to eventually get the boot.
It doesn't seem fair. Well, it's a revolving door, except for a certain group of franchises. And, you know, Eric Spolster, you know, he's been able to survive. And even back when they had the Big Three, if somebody on the Big Three was upset with Frank Vogel, and they went to Pat Riley and said, we want this guy out. Pat Riley said, no, you better change your behavior. We've seen that with Coach Popovich and San Antonio earlier in his career. There were some rumblings and he was able to survive. So I think it all has to do with ownership and leadership. So we've seen a couple of coaches turn in a quick amount of time with quite a few franchises, and they haven't won anything. So I think stability is the way to go if you got the right guy.
Stability is certainly the key in a lot of cases. Avery Johnson is joining us here on the JR Sport Brief Show. I'm hitting the fast forward button. I'm ready to see what the Celtics and Mavs can do. I know we're going to blink and the NBA draft will be right here in front of our face. What are your impressions on the draft now expanding to today's, the international presence of players?
We've seen the last few MVPs come from outside of the United States. Is there a different emphasis if you're a team when it comes to the talent pool? Yeah, I think the emphasis is when you're drafting in a lottery, you try to find a starter. You look at some of these drafts. I know this draft supposedly is not as top-heavy, but some of these draft teams have gotten really lucky. You can even date back to when the Greek Freak got drafted.
He wasn't the first pick in the draft, and all of a sudden Milwaukee finds him at, what, eight or nine, and he's turned out to be okay. So you've got to really do your homework with this draft. A lot of foreign players, your top two or three players could be from France. You've got a lot of people migrating from Africa to France, playing the pro leagues there.
The French league is arguably the strongest international European league now. So a lot of French players are coming over and they're in the draft, and you could literally have eight to 12 foreign players drafted in the first round easily. Coach, final question for you.
You look at this draft, everybody talks about the back end of it and what might happen with Bronny James. What are your thoughts on his performance in school, what he did at the combine, and ultimately what he might be early on in his career? You know, obviously I'm not his dad, I'm not his agent. His dad has had a wonderful career playing at a high level. He will be at 40.
It's incredible. And I retired at 39 and I didn't have anything left. But Rich Paul, his agent, obviously told teams he's not going to sign a two-way contract and he's staying in the draft. Based on what I've seen in my evaluation, I probably would have recommended that he stayed in college. But that's not my choice. That's not my choice. He averaged four points in college.
I know his last name is James and he's LeBron James Jr. But based on what I've seen in the workouts and at the pre-draft camp, I would have liked to have seen him stay in college for another year or two. But it's not my decision. We'll see if some team drafts him in the first or second round and whatever team drafts him, then they've got to live with it.
They've got to live with the consequences, the attention, and everything else. Hey coach, I want to thank you for taking the time to join us. Where can people follow you and everything you do on CBS Sports HQ?
Fill us in. Yeah, they can follow me, Coach Avery, number six, on Instagram, Facebook. I'm on LinkedIn. And yeah, follow me. You can see what I'm doing in the sports world, in the business world. On Twitter, I'm Coach Avery six, not Twitter, X.
And they can find out what I'm doing, not only in the sports world, but in private equity and all of the other things that I'm involved with. Okay, great, Coach. I'm going to have to hit you up myself. I appreciate the time, okay? All right, thanks for having me. All right, Coach. All right, Coach. All right, Coach. All right, Coach. Unravel the mystery in June's Journey. Download June's Journey now on your Android or iOS device or play on PC through Facebook games.
