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Hyundai, there's joy in every journey. Ramona, thank you for taking the time. I appreciate it. You got it, guys. How's it going?
No problem. I know it's a busy, busy night, which you have coming out on FX, clipped. Tell us about that before we talk about the finals in a couple of days.
Sure. I'm sorry if I have a little party voice because we had the premiere last night and you know when it's like loud and it's somewhere where the music's loud and your voice goes. Yeah, and I have a couple glasses of whiskey, I know.
Yeah, I just had one drink, but it's not that. It was just that it was so loud, man, but that was fun. It was... Look, the show is something we... You know, I've been working on it for 10 years, right? I covered it when it happened in 2014 and it felt like we were living in a movie, right? Just all the fun little details of the show and all the fun little details of... At the time, it was just a story, right? The strange, the Viviano character who was like making her appearance on roller skates and with the turtle, right? You remember all that?
Yeah, I do. And I was the reporter who kind of had to figure out, okay, well, why did this happen? Why were these tapes made? Why were they leaked?
Why did they come out on TMZ? What was the backstory behind it? And the more I dug into it, the more it just felt like Shakespearean and it was like, oh, well, she was his assistant, but he had other assistants before it. It may or may not have been sexual. It may have just been closeness, whatever, but he gave some lavish gifts upon her and his wife found out and did not like how pushy she was and how aggressive she was and she sued her to get the money back, to get the gifts back. And when have you ever heard the wife suing you, the husband's mistress? It's not normally how things go when usually your husband cheats on you or something happens and it sucks.
Maybe you might get divorced, but to sue to get the gifts back was something new. And I think that is what put a lot of this stuff into motion, set everything off into motion. And the more I got to know Shelley Sterling, the woman who kind of kicked this whole thing off, and the more I learned about V.Cidiano and her role in this, and then I covered up close how the effect it had on that clipper team. That was a lot of city clippers, right?
It was Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan and Chris Paul and probably their best chance ever to have won the championship and it just took the wind out of their sails. And it felt like so strange you couldn't make this stuff up, right? There's all these fun characters you're going to get to meet in the show, like Shelley Sterling's lawyer, this guy named Pierce O'Donnell. Such a character. He's such a good character.
They actually got Corbin Bernsen from L.A. Law to play him, right? And so I think it's... And I think one of the... You know, when you watch this or when you have a chance to, what I love about the show so much is it brought the reporting I did to light, but also it illuminated the backstory and who this V.Cidiano was in a way that I was never able to do. And by recording a podcast, like I have sketchy biographical details, but you know, it was the fact that V.Cidiano is like a real life person in the show and played by this amazing actress. If you don't know who Cleopatra Coleman is yet, you will after this show. She is unbelievable as V.Cidiano. And I'm really happy that that is done so well, because it's the part that I never could get to as a reporter.
Ramona Show, born from ESPN, is joining us. Clipped starts on FX tonight, runs through the beginning of July. I've seen the trailer. It makes you go, oh, man, I got to watch this. I even saw that Lawrence Fishburne is playing everybody's favorite coach in Doc Rivers. Yeah, I mean, like when we thought about doing this in the show, like I was excited about the casting.
Like I always wanted to, like I watched people versus O.J., and that was an amazing show, and I just thought it would be the same thing. Like, you know, who should play Doc Rivers? Who should play Adam Silver?
Who's gonna play Donald Sterling? And, you know, just hearing the names that they talked to or they thought about or debated about and then seeing how Ed O'Neill becomes Donald Sterling is just fun. I mean, Ed O'Neill, that's Al Bundy, man.
My girl wants it as an Al Bundy. He's selling shoes, yeah, selling shoes. Yeah, like, he's amazing in this show. Like, you don't think that, I mean, people think, oh, you know, Sterling's a bad guy or he's just an old guy who says all this stuff.
No, man. Like, Sterling is living, breathing, interesting. I mean, Ed's gonna get nominated for some awards. Like, I'm telling you, that character is amazing and his role in it is amazing. And so, I think when you watch the show, you'll see him in a different light.
You'll see Lawrence. You had to have someone play Doc Rivers in this role in the way that Doc Rivers handled this. He had to be able to command the room in the locker room and, like, I know Lawrence Fishburne, you know, he's not a basketball guy.
He's not an athlete or anything, but he's got some gravitas, right? So, when you, like, you know, no, he did not do the Doc Rivers voice, okay? He didn't try to, but he did Lawrence Fishburne and that's enough.
Like, you don't, I didn't mind it for one second that he didn't try to do the gravel voice, right? He just did, you know, he had a deep voice and he commanded the room, a huddle. And, like, he's, I think he's a revelation in this. Like, you haven't seen him in a role like this before.
He nailed it. Now, I'm looking forward to it. Talking about rewards, Ramona, I think you might have some coming on down the line as well. Ramona Shelbourne is here with us, the JR Sport Breeze Show, Coast to Coast on the Infinity Sports Network. Before we get into some finals talk, so I don't even want to say where there's smoke, there's fire. We've heard so much over the past month now about JJ Reddick becoming the next Lakers coach. What's the holdup until after the finals, after the draft?
What's the deal here? Feels like that, right? I mean, they're obviously taking their time. They're talking to everybody. I actually think that's good because, you know, when, you know, when coaches, like, when teams hire coaches, like, if they, they'll do, like, a million interviews, you know what that is?
That's information. That's every single one of these interviews is getting somebody else's take on your team and how it should play and how it did play. And the guys that they've interviewed are all really accomplished assistant coaches, and they're looking for their next head coach. You know, they're looking for their first head coach in the game, but they're really, I mean, you know, Mike Inouye and David Edelman and Chris Quinn from Miami. Like, those guys have great, great basketball knowledge and hates on what the Lakers are and who they've been. So, I think it's really, um, I think they're taking their time with it because they don't have to be in a hurry.
And also, I do think that JJ's timeframe himself, like, he's called in the finals. Like, he's busy. Um, I will say this. I was, I was laughing last night because we have an actor who plays JJ Reddick in the show. His name is Charlie McElveen, and I was like, hey, you know what? We're going to call you pretty soon.
Isn't it safe? So it's the Lakers. We can't get JJ for a little while.
So, like, can you stand in? Hey, yeah, JJ's, he's, he's pretty, he's pretty occupied. This man, uh, did a podcast and potentially parlayed it into a coaching job. So, I guess the power of, of LeBron James, Ramona Shelburne, a lead ESPN writer, covers all things.
NBA is here with us on the JR sport reshow coast to coast. We know LeBron James wields power, but what's the latest when it comes down to, to Bronny? Do you believe that he'll get drafted at the end of the month? I think he's going to get drafted.
Yeah. I don't know if it'll be first round or second round, but I mean, you know, I know he didn't get rave reviews from that combine, but I, I think, I think there's a lot of people that, and this is how I felt about him since I saw him play when he was a freshman in high school. And, you know, when I first saw him, I was like, ooh, a little small. It's not big like his dad, right? Like it's, but then I saw him again a couple of years later and he's like, he'd grown into his body more. He had that same athleticism.
He had that same bounce and you just look at him, you go, okay. You know, LeBron was obviously more developed and ready for the NBA coming out of high school, but, but Bronny, you know, I just need a little time to bake, but if he's in the right situation, the kid has, the kid has some good raw materials to work with. And, and I think, um, somebody is going to take a chance on him, not, not necessarily in the first round, but maybe somewhere in the second round. And I think it's going to be real interesting to see how it plays out because, because of the tie-in with LeBron, like if people decide they want to, you know, take a chance on Bronny and see if LeBron will come with him, you know, I mean, that's, that's a possibility. I, I think LeBron stays in Los Angeles, but, um, nothing, nothing would really surprise me this summer with him. There's a lot up in the air for him and for the Lakers and for Bronny that, that nothing, nothing towards the end of his career would surprise me what he did. No, we've been shocked a couple of times by LeBron.
It'd be a little bit more shocking this go round as he's sitting on 39 years old. Ramona Shelbourne is here with us, the JR sport brief show. Uh, LeBron James was also very complimentary today in the latest edition of his podcast of, of Kyrie Irving. We know the NBA final starts in two nights.
What are your impressions? Who do you kind of favor as we kind of get towards a new champion? Yeah. You know, they asked me to make a pick and I almost like as a reflex said Boston and seven, just cause they, they were the best team. They got home court, they got Porzingis. And I just, I don't know, I've been thinking about it more and more and I'm like, I kind of think Dallas is going to take this. Like, I feel like you have these two generational talents and Luca and Kyrie and, and I'm not saying like, I mean, I think Jayden's up there.
Okay. But just look at the two best players. I think Dallas has the two best players.
Right. Um, but, and I, and I think that they're at a stage where, um, they, I think they can, they, when they have them playing at this level, and I think now that Luca's had a week off to get right, um, the way they've been playing defense, the way that the pieces that they acquired like PJ Washington and the way that those Daniel Gassler has been such a good fit. Like they just have that look, you know, and, and sometimes I just get influenced because that's the team I covered. I mean, like I, I went to a bunch of those Western conference finals games and it was, um, Dallas was impressive, um, really impressive. I know that, and I, you know, I did a couple of Dallas games in the first round too. Um, I don't know, they have that look and they have, they have the two best players. So I'm going to, I think my official pick is going to be Boston seven on respect to the 64 wins and the home court advantage, but Dallas and six may not, may not be far off.
It feels like they're close. As senior writer from ESPN, Ramona Shelbourne is here with us. As we start to wrap things up, you talk about the time you spent covering these, these Dallas Mavericks, Kyrie Irving.
What happened between Boston and Cleveland and now just maturity, just 32 years old, what's changed? Yeah, I mean, he grew up, right. But also, um, you know, his, his mother-in-law, her name is, um, Shekeliah Riley Irving. She took over handling his career. She became his manager. Um, and she's, you know, they're very close. He's known her since he was a kid.
Right. I think she chilled him out a little bit. Um, I think he also, he just found a place, an organization that was very supportive. And, um, and he has done a very good job of, of just focusing on basketball. He's minimized the distractions. He's, he's bought in. And I think Dallas is a place where like, he wasn't in that hot media glare every second, you know, like he wasn't Brooklyn or Boston or any of the places he was.
Right. Um, he was, like, you know, he missed a big chunk of the season this year with an injury and, like, he wasn't under pressure, like, to come back. Like, there wasn't, there wasn't that much heat on him. So, I think he, he was able to kind of recalibrate. He's, you know, he has grown. I've talked to Ky a lot lately. He, he really has grown and is a different, you know, different perspective on things. This is, this is probably who he wanted to be, um, you know, three, four years ago, and he went to the Celtics and, and just wasn't right there, you know, maturity-wise yet.
Oh, nothing wrong with change. Sometimes it takes all of us a little bit longer than others. Hey, Ramona, I want to thank you for the time. Fill us in one more time on clipped on FX, how we can watch, when we can watch.
Give us the details. Okay. So, it, uh, the first two episodes are going to drop today. I think they're actually already out.
They sort of drop at midnight. So, first two episodes drop on Hulu. Everything is going to be on Hulu and, um, it's FX and Hulu are basically owned by the same people, right?
And Hulu is a streaming service. So, first two episodes drop tonight. Every Tuesday, we drop another episode.
We run through the end of July or the end of June, a little bit into July. So, the six episodes total each about an hour. I think it's a fun watch. It's a good story. These characters, you literally could not make them up, but they're all true. And, and some of the performances in this show are great. Plus for like NBA fans, like, you're going to love all the little Easter eggs. You know, there's just, there's just a lot of little Easter eggs if you really know the story. Well, that's cool.
Well, Anthony Edwards is too young, but he's not in there cursing anybody out, is he? No, no, no, no. Okay. A lot of awkward stuff. We don't have to get that.
We don't have to give it to what's on court, you know? Okay. I can dig it. Well, Ramona, thank you so much. Tell everybody before you roll, where can people can follow you?
Fill us in. Oh, you can find me on Twitter, Instagram at Ramona Shelburne. Just, you know, you don't have to figure out how to spell it, but if you type in Ramona, it'll probably come up. Hey, good luck. Congratulations on the series. And yeah, I think you might have another piece of hardware coming your way when this is all said and done. Thank you, Ramona.
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