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I'm good. I assume everybody in Celtic land is in a good mood today, right? Yeah, I'd say so. They're in the NBA Finals, and it's actually a warm, sunny day in Boston, so double hits for every people around here. No doubt about it.
Well, Adam, this is the big question. They sweep the paces out the building. They have nine days off until the start of the NBA Finals next week, next Thursday. What are the current plans to keep them both healthy and active?
Yeah, the healthy part is pretty easy. You're not going to have the wear and care like you would in a playoff series while you're doing anything, practicing, working out, whatever, but they're off today. They're off tomorrow. That's what I heard. They're trying to figure out Thursday. There's a chance they'll practice Thursday, and they'll definitely be back at it Friday.
So Joe Mizzou is definitely going to give them a couple days to kind of recover, you know, spend some time with your family, like that mentally recharge, that sort of thing, and then you get right back to it. Adam Himmelsbach is here with us from the Boston Globe. You mentioned Joe Mizzoula.
We know this is two years. It feels like he's he's constantly under fire from the fan base and usage and what he does and what he doesn't do. Have people kind of calmed down on that over this playoff run or people still kind of poking him with the needles as they've continued on?
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely pockets of people, pockets of fans who it feels like anything short of a title, they're not going to be satisfied. There's probably people they win a title and say, oh, yeah, they won in six, you know, they had a different coach than Joe, maybe they won in five, that sort of thing. But like you mentioned, people are warming up to him. I think a big thing has been hearing players' support for him that's really increased over the years. Not just support, I guess, but belief. They're really vocal in it, the way they talk in their interviews and press conferences, you know, they're like, Joe had us ready for this moment.
You know, this is a scenario that Joe told us was going to get here and it did and we knew how to handle it, that sort of thing. So I think when fans hear that, they're like, all right, if Jason Tatum is saying it, maybe this guy is actually pretty good. Well, Adam, we know when it comes down to players receiving criticism, you have Tatum and Brown who are right there.
It seems that Brown doesn't necessarily get the same amount of respect. How have the dynamics changed for this duo since they've been together? I mean, it's been years. People have said, hey, you got to move one or the other and here they are in the second finals in three years. Yeah, I mean really all they've done is win for the most part.
They just haven't taken the last big step and look, it is a big step to actually win a title and not just get to the conference finals. But they've shown, you know, they can play together. They've shown they have a good working relationship. A lot of people in Boston, I should say some people kind of want them to be best friends, you know, why aren't they hanging out? Why aren't they going to dinner together after games? They just are different points in their life.
You know, obviously, Jason has a child. Jalen has kind of a core group of friends that he's a little more, you know, he's active at speaking at universities and the intellectual Jalen we see. They just have different things they're focused on, but they definitely have a good friendship and a good working relationship for sure. And they like each other a lot and obviously they enjoy playing together.
They have found over the years, they've kind of figured out how to do it best. And I think part of that is Tatum realizing kind of what Jalen, how Jalen can help him. You know, he realizes some games, you know, we saw Jalen was the MVP of the series.
Some games realizing, look, this isn't maybe my matchup, I'm going to be double teams here and there. And I have a guy in Jalen that I can trust and not just really Jalen. I have a guy in Drew Holliday, I have a guy in Al Horford, I have a guy in Derek White that he can really lean on if defenses are paying a lot of attention to him. And I think that's been a really key to the team's success. Adam Himmelsbach is here with us from the Boston Globe. You talk about the the personalities of Tatum and Brown, how Brown has a core group of friends. How he's an intellectual going and speaking at schools and what have you. I mean, it seems at times that this has been used against him. He was on social media a couple of days ago saying, hey, reveal your sources.
Who says that? That I'm difficult and I'm missing that. From your interactions and seeing him, like, why does he get this rap? Well, he's definitely a different kind of guy. You know, his personality is different. Even his vibe, it had a few wins in the playoffs that were like big time wins and players are all excited. And he's up at his press conference really stoic and either unsatisfied, annoyed, something. It's just kind of the vibe he gives off.
It's unusual compared to other players sometimes. But he's also kind of his own guy. And I think that's what the Celtics as a franchise appreciate about him. And he's done a good job this year. I think he spoke about this a little last night of filling in more of like a leadership role. They haven't had a lot of voices since Marcus Smart left. And he said, look, I took it upon myself realizing someone's going to speak up.
I want that someone to be me. And guys are listening to him. He's going to be 28 years old in the fall.
Like people forget. You think these guys are really young. So he's been around for a while.
So he has the attention of these guys and they're willing listeners when he speaks up now. Well, Adam, you mentioned him being a leader with no more Marcus Smart. You also talk about Drew Holliday coming in. For whatever reason, Derek White doesn't get a lot of attention.
He even hit the game winning three last night. How is the team how the team dynamics different? How are they playing different with no Marcus Smart there and an influx of Drew Holliday and expanded role of White? Yeah, and of course, we mentioned Porzingis. You know, he hasn't played in the series, of course, but he's just an essential part of everything they were trying to do this year. And he's probably Porzingis' presence changed the way they play more than anything, really.
But in terms of the shift from Drew or Marcus to Drew, it's just different. Like fans saw a lot of games last few years, but it's like a tense, tight game. And you expect Jason Jaylen taking shots. And there's Marcus kind of firing up a three that sometimes went in, but a lot of times didn't because he was kind of fearless. And he was like, all right, I'm not afraid to put my stuff on the line here and go for it.
But sometimes it didn't always go well. Whereas Drew is a little more comfortable kind of filling in his role and also being ready to step in and do what they need. You know, there's games where they need him to be scored. This past series against the Pacers, you saw it a little more and being like, all right, this is my night. I've got a good matchup here.
I'm going to overpower this guy. They're going to double team Jason. I'm going to hit this open three, but just doing it really within the flow of what the Celtics are trying to do. Well, Adam, you talk about Porzingis, I assume with another nine days and he's already on the line, we're going to see him in the series to what degree? Yeah, that kind of remains to be seen. Look, but I thought he'd be back by now, the sense I got talking to people after the injury that a lot of people thought three weeks was kind of the number and we're just past four weeks, I believe. And people that's being around the organization now, they're very careful to say this isn't a setback. It's just how, you know, with a cap strain, it's tricky.
And that's what I reported right away. A lot of people want a timeline right away. And I said, everyone I'm speaking to is saying the reason we're not getting a timeline is because they just don't know yet. This isn't a little fractured wrist where, you know, all right, in two weeks, this bone is going to be healed and it'll be good. It's a calf strain.
You have to be careful. But there's been no setback or anything like that. He's still progressing in his recovery.
It's just taking a little longer than the team initially thought. But there is a lot of confidence that he'll be back in time for the finals, especially for a guy seven foot two, a history of leg issues all over the place. We may see Chris Staps here and we may not see him again.
He may see him here or there. So we'll eagerly anticipate what they get started, what they do next week. Game one is June 6th. Adam, if they don't win a championship, OK, what the hell happens in the off season? Can we expect anything to happen outside of the fans being upset and angry?
Oh, man, yeah, people will be upset, that's for sure. This is like the the pins have been lined up for them. You know, some people are getting frustrated when they hear people say, oh, what an easy run for the Celtics.
Like, guess what? It has been an easy run. You know, you played three teams basically all missing their best player at one point in the series, three teams that only got here necessarily, especially in the Pacers case because of injuries to opponents such as the Bucks and Knicks.
You know, it's rolled out on a red carpet for you. And look, they kind of earned it. Like there's been years of them just having brutal playoff matchups, injuries of their own, tough, you know, situations. They're going to navigate like they got to earn one, but now they got to capitalize and they got to finish it off. I don't anticipate like, you know, if they if they lose, they're being any sweeping changes. This core is under contract for the most part for years to come. And they feel great about it. And they just won 64 games.
But certainly there'll be some some questions asked if they don't figure it out. Yeah. And Joe Mazzullo will give us another wonderful press conference. Final question for you. When is the happiest moment that you've seen him? Like when has he been happy?
Is there anything that stands out to you? That's a good question. He's happy at practice, really. Like when you come down and just see him like working with guys and giving one on one instruction, like that's kind of his roots. That's what he did when he was higher up with the Celtics. He was like a low level assistant coach, like a developmental guy. When he has those moments where he can do that and really kind of lock in with guys and then pull them aside afterwards and just have conversations with them.
Even non basketball. How's your day going? What's you know, how are things at home? That sort of thing. Like developing those connections, having that time with his players is where he really seems to be thriving the most. OK, so when the media comes in, he just hates you guys. Yeah, exactly. That's basically it. You know, Joe's a good guy. Like we all have good relations with him away from the microphones, but there's no doubt after games he can be pretty fiery for sure.
Without a doubt. Hey, Adam, thank you so much for taking the time. Where can people follow you and all of your work with the Boston Globe?
Oh, yeah. Just go to bostonglobe.com. It's all right there.
Head over to the Celtics page and you'll see plenty of work there. Appreciate it. Thank you, Adam. Have a good evening and enjoy the ride. OK. All right. Yeah. Enjoy the game tonight. The wait is over.
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