Karen Guregian, MassLive Sports Patriots Columnist

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Between the Dynasty docuseries and this, it's been kind of pile on bill time. Absolutely. Well, Karen, can you give us a little bit of detail for anyone who hasn't read the article? It pretty much says that Robert Kraft told Arthur Blank when Arthur Blank asked him about Belichick.

You can't trust him. You shouldn't believe him with any other details, you know, in that article that we should pay attention to. Well, I think I think what Robert Kraft allegedly told Arthur Blank is kind of known and it's known in NFL circles. I'm more curious if Robert said what was reported. He said whether he dropped the dime to Arthur Blank or Blank called him owner to owner and if Kraft was just being honest with his, you know, with his friend.

So, you know, that part of it, I think, is interesting. But I also also I think the takeaway from from the whole piece is I almost think no matter what Robert Kraft said, good or bad, I don't think Belichick was getting that job anyway. I don't I don't think it was what Robert Kraft said or didn't say that put it over the top. I think I think there were a number of factors that weighed against Coach Belichick and will continue to weigh against him. One being his age.

He turned 72 yesterday, I believe. And, you know, he's 15 wins away from Shula's record. And that's roughly two seasons. So if you're you're a team going to hire a prospective coach to turn your franchise around and if he comes in, brings in a whole new staff, perhaps changes the dynamics in the front office and then leaves after two years, where are you? You know, I mean, it's just there's some logic to it. I think it eliminates a lot of teams from the mix when it comes to Belichick. I think if any team was going to hire him, it would be a team that's very close to winning and perhaps is a coach away. And you can whittle down the list.

There aren't many teams that qualify in that category. Karen Garigian is joining us, covers the Patriots from Massachusetts live. Bill Belichick's birthday was yesterday. He did turn 72. And the great writers at ESPN, they sure know how to know how to, you know, give him a post birthday present.

Karen, don't they? Now, having having having said that, do you think that we've seen the last of Bill Belichick as a head coach or will we see him later this year with one of those teams that might get close? Well, I think I mean, as I said, the list is small. Dallas is one of them. And I was actually surprised that Jerry Jones didn't part with Mike McCarthy after yet another disappointing playoff go round and bring in Bill, who was readily available to him and who is a coach he professes his love for.

I mean, I was actually surprised that didn't happen. Now, McCarthy is going to have to get off to a terrible start in Dallas. But the issue with McCarthy hasn't been the regular season.

It's been the postseason. So, you know, is Jerry going to can him if he once again finishes in with one of the best records in the league? Or if the team is doing well through the year, you know, through the season? But then, of course, go one and done in the playoffs.

That's when he would probably can him. So during the season, that's a tough one because I can't see Dallas getting off to that bad of a start, given all the talent they have. So, as I said, the problem for Dallas comes in the playoffs.

So I'm not sure about that one. Philadelphia is another one because the owner, Jeffrey Laurie, is friends with Belichick or friendly with Belichick. You know, they've taken some pains to to right the ship there. They have a bunch of new coaches within the realm of the staff. But again, if they sputter, you know, Nick Sirianni is probably on a short rope.

So that's a possibility there. The Giants are another one. But I wouldn't I wouldn't say only because I know them. Belichick and the Mara family are very tight.

But they're a team that's not particularly close to winning. That would be the problem there. Yeah, I mean, I could play quarterback for the Giants.

You could play quarterback. I think we'd we'd be healthier than Mr. Daniel Jones. Karen Garugian is here with us from Mass Live. You've covered the Patriots. Everybody has the Belichick idea that he's the bad, evil, mean guy, doesn't want to deal with the media.

That's that's a front, right? That's just about being the coach and shutting everybody out. Did that not wear thin with with even your coverage? Well, I think what happens is it wears thin when they're losing.

And it not only wears thin with the people who cover him, it wears thin with with the fandom. You know, when Belichick, when they were winning Super Bowl after Super Bowl during that 20 year run, you know, they were in 9, 10 Super Bowls or whatever it was in the course of those 20 years. I don't think anyone cared how Belichick treated anyone. I don't think they cared if he was smug and abrupt and and didn't offer anything or they didn't care.

The team was winning. So you put up with anything in that scenario. But when the losing starts. And Belichick is still not giving answers and he's still being smug and he's still being off putting. And he's not given anyone the time of day, not providing any answers for crazy actions, like having Matt Patricia coach the offense two years ago, not giving answers. Then it becomes a problem.

It becomes an issue. Well, Karen, even with the article that that ESPN released earlier today, like you said, these are these allegations. Robert Kraft has said, no, I did not prevent Bill Belichick for getting a job.

No, I didn't bad mouth him. Are we are we going to have a situation where Belichick, as he gets older, he's 72, doesn't go to Foxborough, doesn't want to go to Foxborough? I mean, it's going to be that way naturally in the near future as he tries to establish himself somewhere else. But are we going to see a big chasm here as he gets older?

Yeah, I don't know about that. I mean, a lot of people thought Brady was done, too, when he left or was pushed out. But that, you know, but that's back on better footing. And they're having a big ceremony to put him in the Hall of Fame on June 12th. And Kraft has already said he's going to do something similar for Belichick.

Does Belichick show up? I mean, look, look, look, go back to January when they, quote unquote, mutually parted. Right. You know, obviously, you know, the two had issues or have issues, whether you believe the story or not. They put on a nice little sendoff for Bill in that mutual parting, professing love. And, oh, it was, you know, it was like they were best buddies. So do I think that Bill can come back and do the same and Robert do the same to salute Belichick?

Sure, I do. Karen, listen, we've had the article. We had a documentary. What do we need next, like a music video dissing Belichick or we get like an actual movie? What happens next?

Well, I don't know. It depends on if Belichick gets hired or not. I mean, he does have a book coming out, but it's more about it's not a tell all type thing. But if he doesn't get a job or if he gets a job, breaks the record and then retires, I think down the road, maybe, maybe you get his side.

OK. All right. Bill Belichick, not a man of many words, also found out today during next week's NFL Draft. He's going to be doing a special broadcast with Pat McAfee.

So I guess Bill Belichick will get an early exercise and sitting around and doing what we do. Karen, where can people follow you and all of your great work with Mass Live? Well, that's where you can follow me at MassLive.com, at Kay Garrigan on Twitter.

Oh, sorry. X. Yeah, right. The former Twitter X. And I think, you know, I think Belichick is basically now trying to get the good Belichick out there so he doesn't scare too many more people. The good Belichick. Like, how often have the years that you've been with the team, how many times have you seen them? Tell us before we go. Tell us a nice Bill Belichick story, like one day when he brought donuts for the media or he helped the old lady across the street.

Tell us about it. Well, I can tell you one instance, a personal instance, where I happened to come across, actually some friends gave it to me, an old program. It might have been a program involving Harvard football, Harvard-Yale football, or against the Naval Academy or something like that. It was a program and there was a big, huge story feature about his father in this very old program from who knows when. And my friends gave it to me and I said, you know what, maybe Bill Belichick doesn't have this or I mean, I don't know.

So I gave it to the PR person to give to Bill and he actually wrote a nice note back. Oh, wow. So, I mean, he is human. Is he?

I thought he lives in the basement in a cut-up sweatshirt. OK. Well, he's that, too. Mostly he's that. But it's not it's not all on the dark side has that. OK.

Ten percent light. Well, Karen, thank you so much. We look forward to catching you all down the pipe.

And yeah, let's see what happens with Mr. Belichick. You have a good time, Karen. Thank you for joining us. Thanks. I appreciate it. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance.

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