JR SportBrief Hour 4

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Just ask it to play CBS Sports Radio. We've had a busy night. We've talked about Victor Wenbanyama riding the train in New York City. We talked about Tyreek Hill. He's being investigated by the police in Miami for allegedly assaulting a dude who works at a marina. I guess he had too much fun on Father's Day and wanted to beat somebody up. Allegedly.

Looks like James Harden might stay in Philly. Who knows. We talked about Zion Williamson. The woman that has just been berating him online for the better part of two weeks. Her account on Twitter has been suspended. She started to threaten Zion Williamson with releasing explicit tapes of them if he didn't send her money.

Yeah, so she's smart in that regard. We talked about Jack Jones. New England patriot who thought it was okay to take two loaded guns onto his carry-on luggage. We heard from Pat Riley. Pat Riley said, I ain't doing nothing crazy this offseason.

Not going to make any reckless moves. And then we're in a few minutes. We're going to talk about the NFL trying to slow down some of its reckless gambling behavior by some of its players. We heard from Dalvin Cook. He said, I'd love to play with DeAndre Hopkins.

Yeah, I think that's a pipe dream. And so we have so much to do over this next hour. Thank you to super producer and host Dave Shepherd. He's holding it down in New York City and I'm just holding it down in Atlanta. If you want to talk to me, 855-212-4CBS.

That's 855-212-4CBS. I'm also everywhere. I'm on the internet. I'm on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram. I'm all that stuff.

At JR Sport Brief. I'm not just some stupid voice emanating through your speakers. Let's talk to some folks and then we'll talk about some damn gambling.

Why not? 855-212-4CBS. Let's go to Vancouver.

I love Canada. And talk to Darius. What's up Darius? You're on the JR Sport Brief show. Hey guys, can you hear me alright? Yeah, you sound great man. What type of phone service you got? Perfect. Just rocking out to the iPhone 13 here.

But I just wanted to touch up quickly here with you guys. I just managed to tune in right when there was the guy from Toronto talking about Vince Carter being a bust. And I have to tell you, growing up as a Vancouver Grizzlies fan in the 90s, Vince Carter was a god in this country. And he is to this day. He holds the record for 22 NBA seasons. No player has ever done that. He was such a versatile player.

He'd play the 2, the 3, the 4. He was an all around athlete. So trying to compare him to Magic and MJ is just completely ludicrous. I know it's what the comparables were. But just because you have comparables, it doesn't mean you are going to be that. I mean, let's remember, Ben Simmons coming out of college, there was a lot of comparables to LeBron.

But the reality is, he plays nothing like LeBron. Anyways, I just wanted to let all my American friends know, believe me, in Canada, especially in Vancouver where we were craving a player like Vince Carter when we had the Grizzlies, the guy was far from a bust. I'll let you take it away. But yeah, I just wanted to put my two cents in there for you.

Well, thank you, Darius. You ain't do nothing but back up everything that I just said. And I'm not Canadian.

I know enough. I know people in Canada don't think he's a bust. I know there's some people who didn't necessarily like the way he left Toronto. But overall, at this point, nobody cares, bruh. What are we going to do, beat up on Vince Carter for going to graduation?

I mean, come on, we think we're over that. Paul is calling from Toronto. I might as well move to Toronto. You're on CBS Sports Radio. What's up, Paul? Hey, my man, how you doing?

Thank you very much for taking my call. I'm calling from Toronto. And yeah, I also have a beef with Alan from Toronto. So I make sure you guys all understand, not all Torontonians are this confused about Vince's place in history. I mean, come on. Third all-time in games, seven all-time in three-pointers, 23rd all-time in points.

Go to a Raptors game today, you see more Vince Carter jerseys than anything else. A bust. Alan, my friend, call back and state your case again because you're wrong. Love you guys.

Great show. Thank you, Paul, for calling from Toronto. Look at that. I thought everybody in Canada is supposed to be nice. I know it's not true. I know that firsthand.

But I thought everybody in Canada is supposed to be nice. You know, JR, tell me if you agree or disagree with this. It's not that no one is going to realistically and pragmatically look at Vince Carter's 22-year NBA career and say he's anything but a first ballot hall of famer.

We get all that. But at one point, he was considered to be, along with Kobe Bryant, like one of the two faces of the NBA. And let's be real, he never had those intangibles. So to say he's a bust, I believe is completely unfair. To say his career was a disappointment given the natural athleticism and just the raw talent that we saw from him in his first three years when he was relatively healthy in Toronto.

Going against Allen Iverson and that epic Eastern Conference divisional round matchup when that series went seven and they both were doing 50 spots. Yeah, his career relative to how great many people anticipated him to be was a little bit of a letdown. I think that's fair. So I'm just trying to back up Allen a little bit here, but he was never a bust. You're still with me right there. You can't have that both ways.

A little bit. No, you can't. You can't say you're trying to back up Allen a little bit because the point that you made is completely separate from the one that he said. Fair enough. He just said Vince Carter is a bust.

That's it. I can vividly go back to the late 90s and go, Oh my God, yeah, Air Canada. The man's flying through the air. Oh my God, he's bald headed. Oh my God, we can go through all of that. Oh my God, he can shoot. He can knock down threes. He can go to the basket.

Yeah, we can. And he had that for a little while. But to think that, and there were plenty of dudes that came down the pipe, you can look at that Grant Hill. It wasn't easy to just wake up and go up. This is Michael Jordan.

The thought process, especially as Michael Jordan got into his mid to late 30s, was to start going, OK, Michael Jordan is not going to be here forever. Who is it? Is it a Grant Hill? Is it a Vince Carter?

And to your point, it wasn't neither of them. The closest thing, closest thing was Kobe Bryant. And so, yeah, if you want to call Grant Hill a disappointment, you're sure fine. If you want to call Vince Carter disappointment, you're sure fine. Plenty of argument there for it. Not with the totalities of their careers. If you want to look at the potential expectations, yeah, they didn't live up to it. Still had absolutely amazing careers, but it's a completely different thing to go. He was a bust.

I wouldn't even put him on the same line or or a highway. Eight five five two one two four CBS. Glenn is here from Toronto. What's up, Glenn?

Hey, man, how you doing? Good. Yeah, just quickly, touching on Zion, if I was a team wanting to trade for him, I'm telling them they have to eat half the contract and you're not getting more than a second round pick because anything, if he's anything, he's a reclamation project. And even as a as a Raptors fan, as I know that we're in the wilderness for the next couple of years, at least, I don't want to touch that because it's the chances are he he can't he can't stay healthy. That's a big problem with him. It is a one hundred percent reclamation project for anyone trading for him. That's my opinion.

And yeah, well, that's fine. Well, this is a second round. He ain't moving. He's going to stay. Ain't nobody moving him for that.

Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, it's just I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not giving away the farm for a guy that's played one hundred and fourteen games in four in four years. And that's the problem. The problem is, is that what he's going to be, what teams are going to want it, what New Orleans are going to want for him. No one's going to trade for him. He's probably have to get up. He's probably going to end up staying in New Orleans. Yeah, that's that's that's the point I made.

I don't see him going anywhere but potentially Charlotte outside of that. He's stuck. Yes. Yeah. And just with just with quick thing with his weight, if you've got another second.

I want to hear about it. I'm not I'm not saying there isn't a genetics problem. It isn't a genetics thing. But I mean, in Toronto, we had Vlad who came up and was massively out of shape and overweight. Yeah. Yeah.

Guerrero Junior. And he ended up dropping 40 pounds in the off season. It is possible that he just needs to maybe, you know, turn some of that into muscle. It's possible. Maybe.

Maybe he's maybe he just is. We have never change. Well, Glenn, we have seen Zion thin down. We have seen him lose body fat. And so my point is about genetics. Yeah. You can't change your body composition overall.

OK. One hundred percent. Yeah. You're going to be short. You're going to be tall.

You're going to naturally be bigger or thinner. I mean, that's just what it is. They do the work. And so my only point was he can call up, you know, call up. Well, I can't call him up.

I was going to say someone no longer here. He can call up anybody, man. Yeah. Yeah. Don't always work. Yeah.

What works for him like a salad. And I'm just I'm just hoping I'm just hoping you turn it around and you can have a decent career. Otherwise, you might not even might not even see how to help this contract that he's on, you know, which is a sad, sad fate. That would be nice. He's got all the talent there, you know. Yeah.

It'd be nuts. But it's a reality, man. Hey, Glenn, thank you for calling. You have a great night, man. You too. I will.

Yeah, man. Just eat a salad, bro. So Zion, eat just spinach and chicken and rice. He'd be good. He had muscles last year. He did just muscles. And he pulled his hamstring and disappeared off the face of the earth. Come on. One month for a hamstring and we know hamstrings.

They don't. You screw it up and you're just done, right? Well, he was just done.

Period. Sucks out here, man. 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS. 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS. Vlad is calling from Chicago. What's up, Vlad?

King sports. How are you doing? I'm OK. That's a new one. Go ahead. Yeah, that's right.

That's right. Yeah, man. You know how they say, you know, cream, cash rules, everything around me.

Oh, go ahead. I feel a joke coming on with down motto. It's free food rules, everything around me, man. Free. Oh, that was a terrible joke.

You should you should go away for like two weeks after that one. Free food rules. Everything around me. Yes. Hold on a second, Vlad. Hold on one second. Hey, shop.

I mean, you got it right with the king brief, though. No, you got to talk. You got to talk to him about this. Talk to Vlad for a second. This is all you, chef. I love that.

Vlad, I appreciate the attempt. Oh, where'd he go? He left. Oh, oh, no. That's sad. I hurt his feelings.

No, no. He'll be. He's Chicagoan. He's got some stuff. He's got thick skin.

He'll hurt his feelings. He didn't get to the merch part yet. So the who the merch part. Oh, you want T-shirts? I get it.

Food rules, everything around me. Free. Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible. Jack is calling from Denver. You're on the JR sport brief show. How are you doing, JR?

It depends. Hey, didn't I pick up when you were gone or something like that? You know what?

I think you quick sauced me, but that's OK. I did. Where were you? You know what?

I'm in the mile high. I guess we lost connection. Yeah. I just wanted to tell you that Michael Malone, he got a tattoo today of the original nugget on his back. And, you know, we're talking about all this weight with with Zion and whatnot. You know, when covid happened, the Joker got covid and actually Michael Malone and the trainer went to Serbia and they went to Canada. And they trained with Jamal Murray and the Joker and the Joker actually lost 40 pounds. You can look it up. And and I think that was the best thing that could happen for him. So look it up.

And then he came back and won back to back MVP. So what do you want to do? What do you want Zion to do? I want Zion to, like you said, eat a salad, stay off the porn stars and maybe eat some rice. Eat some rice? Well, not so much rice. Just a little bit.

Brown rice. But I'm just telling you, I was blessed to go to game five and I was blessed to to be at the parade. Seven hundred and fifty thousand deep. And Michael Malone, he had a few pops in him. And he told people, don't be sorry, be better. And I think that's what Zion needs. He needs somebody that's going to that he's going to listen to. That that that that he believes in, you know. OK. All right. Don't we all.

Don't we all. Well, thank you. I don't know. Maybe the air disconnected Jack and I again.

That's fine. Eight five five two one two four CBS. That's eight five five two one two four CBS. We're going to take a break.

We come back on the other side. I want to talk to you about the NFL and it's it's gambling parameters. I mean, how much clearer does the NFL need to send rules to the players to say just just don't gamble at work?

How difficult is that? Hey, Shep, you gambling at work? No, sir. Good man. Thank you.

You're very welcome. It's the J.R. sport. We show CBS Sports Radio.

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The J.R. sport free show on CBS Sports Radio. So many nice things. I need the nasty things. Say terrible things to me.

It makes me feel good. I'm like Kevin Durant. What did Kevin Durant say? Oh, I want to I want to quote Kevin Durant word for word. Let's get it correct. Where is he? Let's see.

What the hell is this thing called? We said good things about Bradley Beal. We know that that worked out well. Kevin Durant. Yeah. Well, now he's on his team.

Good for him. This is what Kevin Durant had to say. What do you say? Hate drives me.

Too much love will kill you. Kevin Durant to a fan on why he replies to haters instead of fans. OK, I don't I don't feel that way.

I really just. I don't care about that. I appreciate the people love me. And if you don't like me, that's fine, too.

What do I care? I sleep good at night. Eight five five two one two four CBS.

That's eight five five two one two four. CBS. Speaking of being clear. How much clearer can the NFL be about its gambling policy?

It can't, right? You know, Jameson Williams got his suspension at the beginning of the year coming up. Calvin Ridley is going to be coming back from his suspension now with the Jacksonville Jaguars. There was an entire report that an NFL player and I guess he legally did it.

He gambled away eight million dollars. OK. People do crazy and wild things all the time. And so the NFL has gone to some I don't want to say extreme rules. But after Jameson Williams got suspended, it was only a couple of weeks ago he spoke to the media during minicamp. And he was asked about his punishment and if he understood what went on. He reportedly was gambling on college football games at the team's facility, which is a no no.

You're not supposed to gamble at all at work. And he basically just said, yeah, man, I know what I was doing. I didn't know. Listen, it was something I wasn't aware of. What he called me and it was just make the right decisions.

Where were you at? I'm not sure on any of those things. It just can't work for me. You don't want to share the details or you don't know? No, I'm not sure. OK. He just you don't know anything.

You don't know anything. And so the NFL has now put out these these succinct rules, right? The NFL has six key rules. They're sending representatives from the league office to talk to the players.

Tom Brady has filmed a special video that's been played for all of the players in the league, every team. And it's basically, hey, don't don't ruin your career by gambling. Don't get caught up in something that could tear you down. So some of these key rules that the NFL has shared about its gambling policy.

To me. It's real simple, very simple. Rule number one. Don't bet on the NFL.

That shouldn't be a difficult one to understand, right? Don't bet on the NFL. And number two, don't gamble at your team facility while traveling for a road game or staying at a team hotel. That's also easy. Don't gamble at work.

I mean, there's a lot of things I think most of us know that we should not do at work. If you're in the NFL, don't gamble. That sounds pretty easy, right? Number three, don't have somebody bet for you. Now, this one could be tricky because you're going to find somebody that thinks they're going to get away with some things. Well, if I don't put the bet in my name and I have my sister do it or my brother or my best friend, bro, they're going to find out. Don't have somebody bet for you. That's for everybody trying to be slick. Rule number four, don't share team inside information.

Now, that's difficult. You see these guys on TV all the time? They're getting information from everywhere. Adam Schefter. I don't know nobody else. Not off the top of my head.

Hey, Shep, what's another insider? You know one? NFL guy? Rapaport, right?

Rapaport, yeah. I don't know who these guys are. There's Mike Garofalo.

Yeah, I think I know him if you walk by me. There's JR Sportbrief. He's an insider with everything. Ain't no insider. I hate that.

I'd say, you know, Field Yates. Okay, I didn't ask. Okay, I don't know. Okay, sorry.

Last one. The godfather of all insiders who doesn't get enough credit, who plays the trail for everybody. Chris Mortensen. Yeah, I think I know who that is. Yeah, and he's one of the good ones, too.

Well, good. Well, they all got jobs because people have been sharing inside information. That's rule number four. Don't talk to nobody, which is impossible. Now, what the NFL hopes you don't do is call up Joe Gambler and be like, Hey, Joe, guess what?

Bill Belichick is going to have us do onside kick to start the second half. That's what they don't want you to do. But it's impossible not to share inside information. There's too many people involved. Rule number five. This should also be real, real simple.

This should not be difficult. Don't enter a sports book during the NFL playing season. How about we make it even real simple and don't even walk into a casino during the season. Don't do that. Don't go nowhere to place a bet. Don't even get within 50 feet of the building.

And here's another one. Very, very easy. NFL players. Rule number six. Don't play daily fantasy football. Just don't do it. Just don't do it. I mean, when you're making, I don't know, a million dollars a year, two million dollars a year.

Some of these guys are making 50 million dollars a year. How difficult can this be? It shouldn't be difficult. Somebody is going to get caught up, though. Somebody is going to screw it up. It's not going to stop at Jamison Williams. It's not going to stop at Calvin Ridley. One day, the NFL is going to have somebody with a big name that unfortunately gets caught up in a bad situation.

I'm not trying to sit here and tell you doom and gloom. The NFL is going to have a problem one day. Somebody is going to forget one of these rules. Somebody is going to wake up and say, well, I technically wasn't at the hotel.

I was in the hotel parking lot. Oh, you screwing up, dummy. Somebody is going to tell you that they didn't share inside information because I only shared it with my agent. And I didn't know what my agent was doing. Somebody is going to tell you that, well, it wasn't daily fantasy football.

It was just a one-off. Like, how much clearer does the NFL have to be? Well, it doesn't matter because people are always going to find a way or try to find a way around the rules. You know what they say about rules? They're meant to be broken. People are cheating all the damn time around things. Somebody listening to me right now is involved in some cheating activities.

Sorry, I'm not judging. Somebody is going to get got here in the NFL. And they could come out with six rules. The NFL could come through with its Ten Commandments for gambling.

Just don't do it. The clock is ticking. Wait until we get a real big name.

Jameson Williams, rookie. You just heard him. I don't know what happened. I don't know what I did. I don't understand.

No, I don't know. Calvin Ridley. He said he was in a depressed state away from the team when he started. Wait until it's an All-Pro. Wait until it's someone that is potentially going into the Hall of Fame. The NFL hopes, hopes it doesn't wake up and have its own Pete Rose. Because for all the money the NFL and all of these teams and leagues are trying to make off a gambling. It's going to happen, but they don't want the attention to be on some insider who's going to screw up the new revenue stream. That's why the NFL dropped these six rules. And at some point they may have to just tattoo it onto these guys in their uniforms. Let's see. Does the NFL have a gambling issue? Not yet. Not yet.

But they will. 855-212-4CBS. That's 855-212-4CBS. I'm going to take more of your calls before we roll out. I'm going to tell you about the Navy Federal Credit Union Defensive Player of the Week.

And then I'm going to talk to you. You're listening to the J.R. Sportbrief on CBS Sports Radio. I just want to start off by saying you're one of the best in the game, man. I really enjoyed listening to the show. I love the show.

I discovered it last year when there was actually no sports going on and I'm loving it ever since. I genuinely love your show. Your takes are great. I may not agree with all of them, but they're on point.

Call in now at 855-212-4CBS. Yeah, don't ever agree with anybody. All the time. If you agree with somebody all the time, then check your brain out. Please. Don't do that.

Formulate your own thoughts. 855-212-4CBS. That's 855-212-4CBS. Garrett Cole was mad today. What did he do? Five runs allowed over the last four starts combined.

The Yankees win three to one. Garrett Cole was mad at one of the mariners out here trying to show him up. Well, anyway, the Defensive Player of the Week is sponsored by the Navy Federal Credit Union, who proudly serves the Armed Forces, DoD, veterans and their families. Their members are the mission.

You can learn more at NavyFederal.org. That Defensive Player of the Week, Chris Paul. Yeah, the same Chris Paul who sat on Good Morning America yesterday and told everybody that he is he found out that he's being traded on the team plane. Well, not the team plane, but on a plane ride to New York City. And so Chris Paul out here trying to defend himself, he went a step further by basically saying that I get, I guess, Matt Ishbia, the new owner of the Phoenix Suns and Isaiah Thomas.

Yes. The Isaiah Thomas legend. Bad boy, Isaiah Thomas. Didn't want him there anymore. And so we don't know where Chris Paul is going to play. We don't know where Chris Paul is going next.

But Chris Paul. He's defending his his reputation. Hey, I just mentioned Garrett Cole. New York Yankee. He struck out one of the mariners and decided to walk away and just shook his finger at the guy like an angry mother. Garrett Cole explained himself after the game.

Take a listen to this. You know, their manager was had some choice words for me coming off the field and he was wagging his finger at me. So I wagged my finger at him.

Oh, wow. Just go punch him in the face next time. Whack fingers.

Just punch him in the face or at least go up to him and talk trash. That would make baseball more interesting. It also make it violent. So don't don't don't listen to me.

Bad advice. 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS. It's 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS. And Garrett Cole, what were these numbers today?

Let's see. Garrett Cole went out there and seven innings, seven and a third, eight strikeouts having another solid year, man. Two point six four era.

Maybe Garrett Cole will do this in the postseason for the Yankees and maybe the Yankees will actually score some runs. Let's go ahead and talk to Greg. He's calling from Cleveland. You're on the JR sport brief show. Hey, Jeremy, I just wanted to say I like your show, man, and I like your style a lot. Let me ask you, do you have a vote when it comes to NBA Hall of Fame? No, I don't. All right.

So I didn't hear everything, but I just heard some Vince Carter talk. So if you're voting today, is he a first ballot Hall of Famer? I don't know about first ballot, but I'm putting him in. Absolutely played in four different decades. All right.

So I think Shep is straddling the line a little bit. So the way I look at it is if you're a Hall of Famer, you're not a disappointment. If you a disappointment, you ain't a Hall of Famer. So I want to know who this guy disappointed.

And I'm not I'm from Cleveland, man. I'm you know, I like Vince Carter, but I was never a huge fan. But if he's a Hall of Famer, that's, I think, a pretty darn good career. That's a that's a that's a reasonable retort.

I think when it comes down to a disappointment, it's, hey, did you max out at what was the full expectations? Vince Carter would go into the Hall of Fame mostly built on his longevity as opposed to what he was able to accomplish. You know, accolades wise, rings wise or championships wise.

So, yeah, I can understand both perspectives. But, yeah, did he did he max out in a career? Yeah. But did he accomplish was he one of these leaders? Was he battling for titles? Did we see him in the finals? Was he giving you epic playoff performances? No, we didn't get that. And it's been cool to have seen it. No, and I get that.

But I go back to whose expectations and who did he play with? I mean, you know. Well, no, I think. See, now now we really disagree. That's why you when you know.

No, here's here's the deal. So we know there's not one singular individual in the NBA who wakes up and just gets a title or ring by themselves. We're fully aware we can go we can go down the list and we can go down the line.

But typically, typically speaking, you're going to have a guy who's the tip of the spear. And those are the dudes that everybody talks about. And that that was not that was not Vince Carter. And then at one point, let's remember, Vince Carter did go over to the Nets and play with someone who I consider to be a walking basketball team by himself and Jason Kidd.

So it's it's it's not so easy to say, well, who do you play for? He was never consistently able to just be that guy outside of that short burst early in his career. Yeah, no. And I completely agree. Like I said, I'm not, you know, I've been huge since Carter Baker. But I'm just saying, if this guy is a Hall of Famer, then who's he a disappointment to? Because I don't get that. You know, we call people great all the time.

You know, there may be good. They're above it. And we use the word great all the time. Was Vince Carter great?

I don't know. He was pretty darn good. And if he's a Hall of Famer and you got to use the word great, right?

Yeah. No, I'd agree with that. I think he was a great player. He's a Hall of Fame player.

I think if you want to say he was disappointing, I think that's reasonable, too, because the expectations and the hype that he received, he wasn't able to sustain it while you had other dudes who did. I mean, let's think about this. If we want to look at him and the era and time that he played. You would you say that Vince Carter was in that Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Spear? The answer is no.

No, it is prime. I'd probably put him a top 20. Well, I'm not I'm not I'm not ranking.

I'm not I'm not ranking anybody. I'm just going back to the late 90s in the early 2000s. There was a group of players who you just felt were going to take the NBA and just hold it and grab it for the next, you know, 10, 15 years. Yes. Carter wasn't a part of that group. He started off there, but he didn't end with him. You get you understand what I'm saying? Oh, I totally agree with you. Yeah. And again, I'm not defending him one way or the other.

I'm just I'm interested in what your thoughts are, because I thought he was a good player. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, look, we in a different way or everybody to Jordan. Correct.

I'll be LeBron, man. Those are once in a generational kind of guy. Agreed. But he did. He did receive a lot of that that hype and potential for a period of time. It did not it did not last, but he he does something a lot of these other dudes did. Nobody did.

He went out and played in four decades and he had one hell of a career that I think most people would sign up for. No dispute in that. Appreciate you, Greg. You too, bro. Take care.

No doubt about it. Ralph is calling from Miami. What's up, Ralph? You're on CBS Sports Radio. Good morning, Jared. Great to have you. Great to listen to you every night and great to be on your show tonight. Thank you. Go ahead.

All right. So I would like to talk about Zion William in the NFL. But before I will start with the NFL and I have that to me, I don't think they have a gambling issue. It's just the fact there. They have a lot of young guys because I remember working at a company.

I was working for a TV direct TV back in the days, like I would say five to five to seven years ago. The majority of guys, they're basically young, basically gamble. And a lot of them being encouraged to gamble because they are seeing the other people gambling around them 24 seven about each games.

And we always had the game on TV. So you would see everybody gambling. I even knew a guy that was gambling badly that he was buying a lottery ticket or badly also, too.

But that's the reason I say it with them is only the young one that they had to educate because they're right now. They're the one that's involved in the gambling. They have a lot of people gambling around them. They have a lot of people, family, friends, member in themselves to gambling, too.

But I've known some old folks who got into some situations, putting money out. What else is on your mind? Go ahead. As far as Zion, there's one thing.

Correct me if I'm wrong. There's one thing I don't hear often is what did Mosey New Orleans do to help him out? Because I feel like with him, like he's a young guy. If you guys going to draft a young guy, you guys got to understand you have to basically stick in with a lot of guidance because they're young and the money flows in their pockets and they do anything they want to do.

Like make the wrong decision, make bad decision. Because I was 20. Would you what would you want them to do?

Because I was 22 years old, too, because I can't say I make dumb decision, too. And I know so far what they say is the generation that we have these days, they don't have any guidance. They do everything they need. What would you have wanted the Pelicans to do? Like saddle him with a babysitter?

Like what do you want from them? Not really saddle them with a babysitter, but it's like giving a guidance about life in general. Like most of the time I understand he's overweight, but he's got on the same day.

That's his career also, too. Yes. Between between the Players Association, the union and the teams, these guys receive enough information to to move forward and take care of themselves. I think at the end of the day, we can always look and go, well, what did what did the employer do? And we hear this and I've heard this a lot as it relates to Ja Morant over the past several months. Well, what about Ja's family? Well, at what point does somebody take accountability for their own life and their own decisions?

Instead of thinking about what somebody else can do for them, you know, especially from an employer standpoint. Look, this is the NBA. He knows what to eat. He has that information readily available. They have discussed it with him. He has an entire clause in his contract about his eating. He has or he had someone that worked with him on the basketball side and Teresa Weatherspoon, who I will tell you is not just some, you know, pat you on the back and hug you and tell you love. You're going to get some some tough love from her as well. So it's there comes a point where he has to look in the mirror and go, do I want this?

And I'm not going to not going to push blame on the Pelicans for a lack of veterans or a lack of information. Anything that he wants is pretty much at his fingertips. Ralph, I appreciate you, man. Thank you for thank you for having him in the car. Enjoy the rest of the night. No problem, Ralph.

Thank you for calling from Miami. Yes. You got to take accountability, man.

That's it. Uber Steve is in the car. You're on the JR Sport Brief show. What's going on, JR? Man, I just started listening to my handle and I'll be driving late night.

I'm enjoying the show. Well, thank you, man. I appreciate your brother.

All right. So what I got to say is this, man, I think you give it. I think given the boys die on a hard time and granted, yeah, he does a lot out here.

Different ladies, stuff like that. That's that's hard to basically be a part of NBA. Now, as far as when he plays, he's that he's a heck of a play.

Unstoppable. And I think the biggest problem is load management. I think that I did send him out to Chicago. I think that's a great idea. I think he'll be a decent fit with the Knicks or the Nets.

And I mean, I still got I still got big hopes for the kids. Well, I don't think load management has anything to do with Zion. This man been hurt before he even got in the NBA. And since he's been in the NBA, he's been hurt. So there is no there is no no load management for him.

I think it's all in between his ears. I think it's a matter of motivation. This is the same Zion Williamson, who at the end of the season said, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna come back and play until I feel like the old Zion. Well, man. When have you ever felt like the old Zion? Because your ass ain't old, man.

You young like lose some weight, get in the gym and go play. Hey, Steve, appreciate you for calling from here. You got it. You got it.

You got it. No, no, Steve. Steve, it's the end of the show. They're going to get cut off anyway.

Steve, you're going to get cut off. OK, thanks, brother. All right.

Thank you. Well, that was a polite way. I'm like, you want to keep talking?

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