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This archived broadcast of Janet Mefford today is brought to you by pre-born for $140 you can provide ultrasounds to five women in crisis pregnancies. Call now 855402, baby. That's 855-402-2229 or Janet Mefford.com, our confidence is in Christ alone is sort about him is a great lover and hearts. My next guest says that's in fact what he was and that is evident when you dig more deeply into the romance and marriage between Charles and Susie Spurgeon said joining us now is Pastor Ray Rhodes Junior, founding pastor of Grace Community Church of Dawsonville, Georgia and president of nourished and the word ministries.
He is a real aficionado when it comes to the Spurgeon's and has written a new book about their marriage, which is called yours, till heaven and the untold love story of Charles and Susie Spurgeon Ray so good to have you with us again how are you doing doing great you like you brother me back Oprah doing well. I am thank you so much. It's great to have you with us and greatly talking about the Spurgeon's again. I love how much you know about the Spurgeon.
She must feel at some point that you almost know them or had known them at some point because you you really know a lot about these two words for freedom, which I know it's you mean that so funny what I know we've talked before about Susie this time you're looking at the love story of Charles and Susie Spurgeon want take a look at their marriage. What you think is significant for Christians to understand about them. We will Spurgeon is the prince of preachers, a great writer, thinker, leader, but there's something going on behind that and it's a wonderful romantic marriage show 36 year marriage to Susie. Susie Thompson. Her maiden name, and of course suited Spurgeon writes a little bit about these two because I know that you talk about the fact that they were different in some ways she was a more urban sort of girl he was more of a small town boy but tell us a little bit about their background and in how they initially met Charles was born through all his father and grandfather were of small village preachers whose grandfather for many years with the same church.
His father would go to various churches. His father was by vocational group and Christian home and note 15 he was converted he was preaching, pastoring, really boss 17 N. of London and at age 19 he came to London as a guest preacher at the New Park St., Chapel December day there without a pastor and they were quite taken with except for Susie Thompson was attending the evening service of the Sunday because she was not that impressed with, but lo and behold the church continue their interest asking to become their pastor.
He officially did in April 1854 and by the time Susie had warmed up to him and he discovered that she struggling spiritually to send you a copy of the Pilgrim's progress and he begins helping her in her journey of faith, so that was the very earliest meetings with her. What was it that she didn't like about him initially.
Was there something that bugged her about him or was it just he didn't do it for right yet will he didn't look handsome guy and he had a very country countrified manner about him. She's a London girl all her life, except for some excursions to Paris and he's from the deep country so the way he talked, the way he is here she describes his clothing his mannerisms. She was used to a very refined cultured London type pastor and Charles was none of those that later. She said her first reaction was more testimony of her backslidden state. Then her then trolled any problems with Charles. It's interesting. So when he sent Pilgrim's progress to her. How did that breakthrough was it the fact that he cared about her spiritual state. Was it that she saw him now with new eyes is a Christian, or what you think it was that kind of turned her around had the opportunity to get to know one another. Church members homework. Charles is often invited and she was actually a relative of the church member and straightened their home quite a bit, but the progress progress to show his concern for her is broke through the barrier little bit and she began to open up with and discuss her spiritual challenges and think their friendship began to deepen from April until June 1854 when Charles made it pretty clear is he was thinking other things as well about her romantically.
Dear romance develop you know when they were courting what was their courtship like yeah that it was a December June day in 1854 just a couple months after the Pilgrim's progress when he opened the book pointed out a point on marriage and asked her. She prayed for the one is to be your husband and that she had no idea prior to that she was just there with the church group, as was Charles with this grand reopening of the Crystal Palace something like the world's fair. And so she knew what he was communicating about took a walk together.
She describes the love in her heart already and couple months later there engaged in basically their time together their date nights with Charles coming over to her home on a Monday night and editing his sermons from Sunday that were taken on a shorthand and that he would come and make edits to those that he published every week and that was their date nights and then meet one afternoon a week back at this Crystal Palace where this he revealed his love to her and they would take a walk around and have some fellowship like that, but he was working very hard. He already was very popular and in demand so their time was relatively limited so she treasured those Monday night sermon edits. That's not your typical dating life for sure. And once a week camping that's difficult to do when you're courting her engaged.
That's a very small amount of time to actually be alone with the person you're in love with and you're gonna marry. Yes, a lot of times she's so she's pretty quiet during those times is working but she said it was good training for for her future as a pastor's wife, so she was learning he will sometimes have her read things to have more people.
He put on a mission one evening used to go get the works of Thomas Brooks and start pulling great quotes from his works, and actually became one of his early books. Smooth stones taken from ancient Brooks yes and Susie chose the toes.
Really most of the quotes and that that's an idea of what she was getting herself into.
In terms of where his ministry was going. Clearly, it would be difficult initially to know exactly how great a preacher he would end up being and how popular he would end up being and all of the difficulties that were ahead but did she accept the fact that that was probably an indication of how the rest of her life and marriage would be that she would have not as much access to her husband is maybe a lot of other women she knew would. She said that when she was when they were engaged in August 1854 that she had no idea really am a very, very popular, even by that time without his first year of pastoring the church.
Yet she she could not have begun to file them. The sort of celebrity use that word but sort of crowds of folks that would seek after him to be preaching 10 or 12 times a week. Thousands of people trying to see him, to hear him.
She could've known. In fact, one night he forgot about her walk with her to a particular event where his preaching and he forgot about her. He went on to preach and he realize at the end that she was gone. She had run home to her mom about a mile away crying and the engagement was in trouble really and her mom pulled her aside and said helped her to see that he was no ordinary man, not even an ordinary preacher man when he came home he was so upset when he came to her mother's house so bothered by what he had done and the wise mother is driving them apart. She really pulled them together and Susie made a commitment after that her singular desire was to join him in ministry and never to hinder him in his work, and she kept that commitment joyfully rest of her life. That's incredible. So the mother-in-law stepped up. She that she could have divided the relationship a thing but show. She is an unsung hero in the story. That's quite amazing and in how many children today in the padding.
Charles and Susie only had two children, their twin sons.
The first year of their marriage and we believe that they could not have anymore children.
After that, yes, well, that would keep you busy now. If you have twins that would keep you definitely busy but that there was so much more to this marriage in one of the things that you point out in the book Ray is how this title that you use in the book you're still having was actually a phrase that Charles Spurgeon used in a love letter to Susie I want to get in tomorrow when we come back to listening to Janet after today, this is Janet Mefford on a 100° day in Ethiopia Africa. Hundreds gathered for Sunday worship outdoors and some want an hour to be there afterward came in frantically copied Scriptures from an old Bible to a piece of paper in his face turned sad as he close the Bible and handed it back to his owner, one of only a few in that church to have a Bible came and loves the Lord leads his family and is faithful and Sunday worship.
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She's staying behind in London and he gets on the train and that he did every day that he was separated from her.
Essentially, every day of their romance and marriage.
He wrote her a letter that in itself was stunning to me but that he saw this letter your still have on and then and what he's communicating and out beyond just a tender sweet way to close a letter is totally committed you to you, till death do us part and chill till heaven go to heaven or you go to heaven.
Whoever goes first.
But he included two other words and then and what he meant by that and talk about that later in the book that he anticipated. Knowing her, loving her perfectly. Not as a wife, no marriage in heaven but loving her perfectly. Knowing her perfectly and worshiping God together around the France and Susie yours will death do us part and then we will worship God together and so needs and and going back to what I said at the outset, which you point out in the box.
We know him as the prince of preachers, but what are you talking about when you call him this great love for this great lover at heart when it came to Susie after he communicated with her so tenderly. I want the big takeaways for me is one of the challenges in convicting things is want to learn how to better communicate to my wife after reading how Charles talked to her how he wrote to her so tenderly so kindly so humorously at times so very romantic love letters he would sketch a little bit of Ronald Reagan's life you've read any of Reagan's love letters to Nancy yes you would like a suite C people sketches in the letter. Spurgeon was very much like that he would hold her hand as they walked around the property when she was sick on the sofa, put his arm around her and pray tenderly for her though he was gone a lot.
He made sure that all of her needs were cared for and he would buy items that would help her when she was in bed just things will help her with her writing helping her get her food. He always had people with her.
She was never alone. So, just as attention to her needs and his encouragement to her in ministry. I don't think on her own. She was about assertive but with people with children, encouraging her. She's writing books and she's leaving the book fund and she's engaged in all kinds of ministry and much of that is an invalid up to 12 years of their marriage. She's pretty sick right and some people actually thought he was maybe not a great husband because he had to leave her a lot when she was seriously ill. You see that situation. Obviously he had a lot on his plate that he had to attend to, given his position, but as you say, as you just mentioned. He loved his wife very much what what you make of that and what you get from some of Susie's writings, in particular about her feelings that when she was said he wasn't there as much as may be other husbands would've been one occasion when he gets word away from home that she is very go and I know she's going to make it.
This is years before. She did not, of course.
And so he's he's getting ready to come back and then she gets a telegram to him. Do not come continue your ministry. Essentially, I'm in God's hands.
We know how we feel about each other on sort of reading into this a bit. You don't need to come home and he he ultimately did stay behind. So I think that the way this worked in the course. This is a different time. In their culture there setting and whatnot and Charles and Susie had a view of his public ministry is sort of the first priority of their marriage. I wasn't disconnected from their marriage.
It was simply the first priority of their marriage and she said again. I don't want to hinder you ever end and Charles never worried that he had a sulking or's are disappointed wife at home. She was lonely. She missed him but she was not sulking over him should he knew that he had her full support and that she wanted him doing what he did. I think that's the way it worked like they were in this together hundred percent totally and there was no holding back. And so they get paid both of them on one of his trips to the south of France for recovery for self over and over he would say writer in his letters old that you were here. Only one thing missing you wish you were here, he felt the pain as well as as well as she did right so she was willing to make that sacrifice and give him up so to speak.
In order for that ministry to thrive the way that it did or were there other kinds of sacrifices that she made that were really helpful to his thriving ministry because clearly there would be more than one sacrifice. You would imagine a wife of Charles Spurgeon would've had to make right yes you did she get them up to from home often as we said is gone from home again many times a week and sometimes three months of the year. What later in life was on helpers is getting worse. She's also helping him answer letters. She when she's able to go to church in the first 12 years of their marriage. She's counseling well baptismal candidates and ministering to them and some of them testified to all of that after she was dead. How much that it meant to them and the influences she had had. She's supporting his work in every way that she possibly can through through helping to get his books out to poor pastors and others so is just this is a full on love and support, and it was without reservation.
It was, it was not real reluctant support. Yeah, one of course they have the students at the home quite a bit as you talk about what was the bustle of Charles's ministry ever difficult for Susie. Did you find anything in her writings that indicated she had periods where she just had a normal reaction of man I'm tired. I just wish I could have my family back and stop having these people over the house all the time yeah yeah she was anxious at times she would what he was gone. For example, she would hear a noise at home and she would imagine the way all of us. Do we or something late at night. We imagine the worst possible scenario and associate.
She did struggle something, some with anxiety he struggle with depression. Thankfully they both didn't struggle with depression, but she did get anxious and sometimes she could join him with the students because of her own health, but you almost certainly there. Probably times when just a little more quietness around the home would've been helpful course would you say that they had a spiritual compatibility. It certainly sounds as if they dead yeah that was really the foundation of their marriage. We talk about that in chapter 2 of the book the individually basalt the Lord in prayer. They read the Bible. They meditated on the Scripture. Spurgeon let family worship every day, usually twice a day in their home when he's gone. Susie or someone else is leading that and everyone will participate. The workers at their home just visiting them. Anyone in their home was called to the family worship in particular that the particular times each day and reading the writings you see that the Scripture really is just as flowing through their bloodstream. It's all, it's what the hell they're thinking is the way their viewing life is the way their loving one another is the way they're dealing with her sufferings, Bible reading and prayer meditation on Scripture family worship and congregational worship again. Of course after 12 your city seldom is able to return to congregational worship well and yet, in spite of that, you can get this idea in the Victorian age is Canada's formal age and you know people very stiffnecked, and so forth. You said it was actually a lot of laughter in the home to Spurgeon was a very funny man. There's there's accounts of him walking you walk into a room of others, and that all be rolling on the floor laughing. He was a very humorous person. Someone criticized them once for using humor in the pulpit and he never used it inappropriately. But he told the person if you knew how much I held back.
You would not condemn me, you would command. He thought it was just a good way to you to keep the attention of the folks he talked to what he's preaching to use appropriate humor. It wasn't like a left fast as you might imagine some preachers use a piece that was he was serious about the worship of God, but just one of its rents talked about taking a walk with man. Spurgeon has them laughing and then within a second. Spurgeon said let's pray and it was just no separation between laughing out of joy in the Lord and their brother. Let's pray about a particular situation that we walking through the woods look at their knees and their pray what you know something else that I thought was interesting that you pointed out was the fact that he believed it was wrong to make his marriage is all which is interesting and there really is a biblical basis for that. What was he really getting out when as much as he loved Susie he didn't want to make their marriage. The most important thing you have no other gods before the one true God and in him you as we should know that by loving Christ first and supremely our spouse will not lose will only gain when crisis love to see all to be loved and we can love our spouse as we should, and a buddy that tells you the strong affection that he had for Susie for him to be concerned about that. This is a really burning burning affection for his wife and he knows that has a proper place. He doesn't want that to supplant the Lord. I think he gets that from the Puritans as well. They wrote like that some of them about loving their spouse valuing their spouse, but not esteeming them to highly putting them on a place to place reserved only for God. Well that's important and you say his love for her just grew in part because he said to her, what he felt for her. The fact that he would articulate his love seem to make a big difference in how strong that marriage was exactly he was unashamed his son after Susie got in 1903 sons. Their son Thomas said that his dad was unashamed to tell anyone how he felt about his mother did that verbally and he did that by writing it down in black and white left for us to region. Yes, so need to leave it there, you are still having railroads Junior so good to have you Ray thank you so much.
You're listening to Janet this archived broadcast of Janet Mefford today is brought to you by pre-born for $140 you can provide ultrasounds to five women in crisis pregnancies. Call now 855402, baby. That's 855-402-2229 or Janet Mefford.com Mefford today and here's your host Joe Mefford. There's nothing like capitulating before you even have to capitulate giving in before anybody even raises the fence to try to force you to give in and that's exactly what's going on now with Bethany Christian services. I almost can't believe this. This story, I suppose falls in the category of nothingness surprises me anymore, but it really does surprise me. We have the quality act, having gone to the house and passed in the house and as we were talking about on yesterday show it looks unlikely under current circumstances to be able to get through the Senate, so the quality act is not been passed and signed into law which will be a game changer for Christians across this country if it actually happened. So continue to pray that it doesn't let your voice be heard in Washington as well to your senators, but you capitulate to be gay at all but you especially do not capitulate when there isn't any reason to capitulate your capitulating in advance. It's weird. Let me tell you about the story. This is from the New York Times it says Bethany Christian services, which is one of the country's largest adoption and foster care agencies is now announced that it will begin providing services to LGBT Q parents nationwide, effective immediately, a major inflection point in the fraught battle over many faith-based agencies long-standing opposition to working with same-sex couples right there you got loaded language, their opposition to working with same-sex couples. That's not the reason that you've had Christian foster care and adoption agencies.
Not wanting to give children who belong to two biological parents. A mother and a father to two homosexuals working with same-sex parents. It's about the fact that they don't want to put children into a home with two men or two women, they want the children. Ideally, to have a mom and a dad in a nuclear family. Big deal. Oh it's a big deal. Bethany, a Michigan-based evangelical organization announced the change in an email to about 1500 staff members that was signed by Chris Polaski, the organization's president and chief executive and a lot of what he wrote. We will now offer services with the love and compassion of Jesus to the many types of families who exist in our world today were taking an all hands on deck approach where all are welcome. I'm sorry were Christian in your name. The love and compassion of Jesus now includes using ridiculous phrases like types of families they're not families. They are not families of family is a mom and dad and children and the extended family.
That's a family yes there are adoptive families understand that yes there single-parent families, but the nuclear family is the family upon which all people are bait you all have a mother and father.
Yes, you have three dads you have two moms not biologically, biologically, you have a dad and your mom's always been that way. So what's the issue here, what are you doing what are you doing Bethany Christian services.
The announcement they say is a significant departure for the 77-year-old organization which is the largest Protestant adoption and foster agency in the US. Bethany facilitated 3400 foster placements and 1100 adoptions in 2019, and they have offices in 32 states.
They also work in refugee placements. Okay, that's just an aside previously openly gay perspective foster and adoptive parents in most states were referred to other agencies.
The decision comes amid a high-stakes cultural and legal battle that features questions about sexuality, religious freedom, parenthood, family structure, and theology. Adoption is a potent issue in both conservative Christian and gay communities. Faith-based agencies play a substantial role in placing children in new families. Meanwhile, more than 20% of same-sex couples with children have an adopted child.
Think about that an adopted child has two same-sex court." Parents through adoption compared to 3% of straight couples crazy and this is according to a 2016 report from the Williams Institute at UCLA school of Law. Gay couples are also significantly likelier to have a foster child and they quote this fellow with the faith and progressive policy initiative at the Center for American progress, aimed to use a Christian term. This is good news. This is good news while consider the source.
This is good is that the gospel is good news.
This is not good news. He goes on to say for too long the public witness of Christianity has been anti-this or anti-that today the focus is on serving children in need are you kidding me. The focus is not on the children at all. The focus is on gay activists, not even the people with whom will be working to place children in same-sex households. Gay activist because these people are caving they are absolutely caving to the gay activists care about the kids say they don't care my kids and all I want to be hyperbolic here but what I'm saying is, the kids are not the primary motivator. Here, you know, I really think the best thing is to make sure the kids can be in all types of family so Johnny can go over here with a mom and a dad and Susie can have two dad send you Trixie can have three moms to arms to mom or not. Yet, at the throttle stage but I'm sure that's right around the bend. Bethany's practice of referring gay couples to other agencies is not official agencies, leaders say quote. It was a general understanding that was pervasive, said Suzanne Jordan, a board member and former employee, but since 2007, the organization had a position statement saying that God's design for the family is a covenant and lifelong marriage of one man and one woman might want to go back to that statement. Folks just to start it on out there might want to go back to the original plan. Bethany's informal policy became increasingly challenging for the organization. In recent years, as various states and municipalities began requiring agencies to accept applications from LGBT Q couples in order to maintain their government contracts. When a lesbian couple in Philadelphia attended a Bethany information session on fat, foster parenting a few years ago they were told this organization has never placed a child with a same-sex couple.
This was from a source. A woman this who talk to the Philadelphia Inquirer. They were eventually referred to another agency. Media reports prompted the city to suspend contracts with Bethany's local branch and Catholic social services and agency with the same practice.
Some faith-based agencies have challenged new requirements to work with gay clients and the courts Catholic social services and the city of Philadelphia over its contract suspension case that the Supreme Court heard in November is supposed to be a ruling by the end of June but Bethany has generally opted to comply in Philadelphia.
The branch changed its policy to work with gay parents and the city restored its contract heartwarming is in it.
That year, Bethany's national Board passed a resolution granting local boards the authority to comply with state and local contract requirements as of last year. Bethany branches in 12 states were working with LGBT Q families. Although those changes were rarely publicized its new approach they say is something of a tight rope act and attempt to establish a clear, consistent policy of inclusion that does not rattle its core constituencies rights, including the churches. There are its primary venue for recruiting parents. I think some of the church is a problem with this, the inclusivity resolution passed in January eliminated the 2007 position statement on marriage being between one man and one woman, but the new statement does not endorse same-sex relationships incredible the policy which was quietly approved by its 14 member national Board on January 21. Instead, states that Christians have mutual good faith can reasonably disagree on various doctrinal issues about which Bethany does not maintain an organizational position, again, so heartwarming to Christian audio name II don't even know why you guys access. Who in the world involved in adoption and foster care. We capitulate on this issue.
If you have Christian in your name. Why would you ever you know close shop. I know you care about kids and if you do care about kids. You'd be willing to go out of business. Rather than capitulate to gay activists in order to have many different types of family. With this you not even going to have to maybe go along with it at all with the quality act.
If the quality act fails in the Senate. So what is the point of doing this in advance.
Other than you have some real problems here. Yes, some real internal problems here and I just mentioned some of them. The Bethany has already caved a little bit you know previously so it's just now following the same route. Where does it end where it is and it ends with Heather has two mommies, Bethany Christian services is now on that road you know Heather has two mommies and we helped him know we we help these families.
Many types of families obtain Heather. Two mommies obtain Heather because of Bethany Christian services fantastic. You must feel great.
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While we were talking about Bethany Christian services and to get into this a little bit more on tomorrow's program as well because I have more to say but this major evangelical adoption agency will now serve gay parents nationwide and who cares about the kids not having a mom or dad doesn't matter. Heather has two mommies, get with the program back progress progress except the Bible never involves and I the Lord your God. Do not change. She says in Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever eternal truth does not change the family does not change. Of course, society which is totally affected by the fall will do all kinds of sinful things, but Christians are not to go along with it. At least that's the way it used to be these days. Not really sure what's up except mass apostasy. I just saying I'm just saying.
And I think this is just disgraceful what they're doing and I can't even wrap my head around it. But you know it kind of reminded me of what Sen. Tommy to prevail. Said I don't know if you heard a little bit of the speech that he gave on the Senate floor, but I really appreciated it and I thought about this when I was reading this story about Bethany want to play a little bit of what he had to say this is got to start teaching our young people. Moral values again start putting God in prayer Buckner schools our kids need structure and they need to learn right from wrong. I watched everything that is happening in education over the past decades from a front row seat, sideline as a coach. It's in verse as a person chooses to spend her career in education now have the opportunity to say something is United States Sen., our young people are our number one hope for this country's future.
If we don't recognize that were going to lose our country as we know is right, we will lose our country as we know it.
Children are the future you might want to think about that Bethany Christian services and by the way he's getting a lot of pushback in saying that we've got to start teaching our young people.
Moral values again. That starts with putting God in prayer back in our schools.
We need God in prayer back in our homes to we need God in prayer back in our homes.
What are we doing to our children. What kind of social experimentation are we playing with little kids and babies. You know it's bad enough that we have to deal with the scourge of abortion now are seen what happens to children with this gay agenda. It's just I don't know the fear of God really paralyzes me. Sometimes when I consider he is holy. He is holy and those little ones matter to him. Think about what Jesus said about it would be better if you had a millstone tied around your neck and thrown into the bottom of the sea than to cause one of these little ones to send.
God takes it very seriously and we don't shrug our shoulders and move on gay families. Whatever I don't think God feels that way. In fact, I know God doesn't feel that way because we have his word and we know what he says about sin and we are responsible for obeying him his Christians and I think we need to consider that much more significantly than we do and there needs to be much more heart repentance with all of us for what we have allowed to occur in the greatest nation in the world on our watch. As Christians, shame on us.
You know all of us for shrugging our shoulders at the proliferation of really heinous and across this land. Where are the pulpits thundering with thus saith the Lord. Where are they looking for them for a long time and I don't see a lot of them out there very very very very very few. Where are you are you man of God. Why are you calling the stuff out from the pulpit.
Are you afraid that somebody's gonna push back and say hi when she talking about that stuff because I have someone in my family… You know it's not about you and your family because God's truth applies across the board to everybody in all circumstances, for all time and you will never come to know the Lord is your Lord and your Savior. If you're not first confronted with your sin. Anyway, you shouldn't tone down anything regarding repentance or the true nature of our guilt before God because what you're doing is you're hurting people you're hurting people in your you to make sure that those people spend eternity in hell because they never heard the truth that they need to repent of their sin and put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ the world are we can get the gospel to a world when we don't even want to talk about sin. I guess that's more for another time. Meanwhile, we have Pres. Biden canceling Dr. Seuss you know that. Let's go to the important news right he's bucking predecessors, the omitted Dr. Seuss from his read across America Day proclamation after the Virginia school system dropped the iconic children's books because of racial undertones as a headline in the daily mail. Now it's just so glad he's dealing with the important stuff.
Cancel Dr. Seuss that's really important's absolutely crazy or listen here and let you listen to representative Madison Copthorne appearing on Fox talking about it.
Here's how the conversation went. This is One Congress in these cancellations getting more and more outlandish by the day. One is a stop to go to the gym after this head but I don't have to. Now I'm already fired up. That is absurd. You know, in the inside of our call. We actually have done a lot we don't want to come as we have successfully so far renaming office here in the wonders of Congress.
So you're telling me that the actual price of the Democrats is renaming a post office, and now canceling Dr. Seuss Americans are actually struggling in his cancel. Culture does not help want to heal America and in his major partisan divide. We had some canceling unable to communicate with them.
Also, let's realize that one Fish two Fish red Fish blue Fish is not as concerning as on-site auto China absolutely right.
We we are actually losing battle. That's not even started yet against China take oil or manufacturing and taking care of all of our medications over there. They produce is the rare earth materials. We need our telecommute occasion satellites and they are actually taking over parts of Africa and South Asia with their very aggressive stance when actually come to building infrastructure. We should be wearing about worrying about that actually harms American lives. Dr. Seuss's race is actually wax. Try to think about that. Well this is going to be something that the grandchildren and great-grandchildren will hear about at a time when China was threatening our national sovereignty and our continued existence and around was shaking. It's fast and trying to probably cut a new deal with the Biden administration and when we had a pandemic and when we had all sorts of problems and we were in the moral sewer. The important thing was that the left was concerned about Dr. Seuss Dr. Seuss and and also there's more to it because of CNN reports six Dr. Seuss books will no longer be published because they portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong. Sorry. At last I checked books in order to have a plot have people in the book who were either hurtful or wrong. Otherwise, you don't have a plot do you know nothing about creating characters and having protagonist and having villains and having any kind of action in a fiction book adult as well as children's books. Anyway, the six that are on the hook here and to think that I saw it on Mulberry Street. If I ran the zoo delegates pool on beyond Zebra scrambled eggs super and the Squares are a few of those only remember that one the cats quiz or that one you know one Fish two Fish red Fish blue blue fish and Fox and socks and can have those we all remember in a statement. Dr. Seuss Enterprises said it made the decision after consulting educators in reviewing its catalog ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises catalog represents and supports all communities and families that I saw somebody making a comment online agreement. This if if this is with the direction we're going, just cancel everything cancel everybody born in the 20th century because you could come through anybody's life and they probably did something to upset some leftist at some juncture, it doesn't even matter who it is yet when we are to the point, as a society where in the name of combating racism you're tearing down statues of Abraham Lincoln. There's no reasoning with these people there off their rockers there off their rockers and were these the same people years ago who used to scream and yell about those prudish conservatives who just wanted to burn books. I remember that and and you'd have some objection.
For example, from parents who came in and said hey could you not carry.
Heather has two mommies in the school library. Oh, they want to burn books they want to, but whose burning books now metaphorically speaking of course who's banning books.
Now Amazon is banning books and all it takes.
In some cases is one LGBT activist to make it happen. That's what happened to Joseph Nicolosi's books and Joe Dallas's books and and Pollock's books on the subject of homosexuality cancel them all because maybe if we cancel people that will clean up the human heart.
Now it won't. And by the way there off a lot of books you guys are pushing not to be canceled all books while let me think about this for a moment I tell you what comes next down the line is what happened or what was threatened to maybe have occurred in California where they were talking about this kind of issue and people were calling it a Bible band and it wasn't literally a Bible band but basically if you begin to say that word I can have any sort of material that violates Seeing Eye antidiscrimination laws.
Blah blah blah.
People said okay well if we extend that out then the Bible would have to be banned.
No doubt in my mind at some point it will come to that, or at least somebody will think about it, Christians would fight to scratch my head over that some days but I have faith in the Lord.
He always has his remnant and leave it there. Thanks so much for being with us and we hope you'll join us again for another broadcast of Janet