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January 29, 2021 4:00 am

A number of people in the modern-day church uttered false prophecies about President Trump's assured second term in office. Now some are claiming they're not really false prophets, but does God's Word agree with them? I'll talk it over with Don Veinot, president of Midwest Christian Outreach. Plus: COVID-19 guru Dr. Anthony Fauci now says just because you've had the vaccine doesn't mean you can travel. We'll discuss that and more on Friday's JANET MEFFERD TODAY.

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This archived broadcast of Janet Mefford today is brought to you by pre-born for $140 you can provide ultrasounds to find women in crisis pregnancies, now 855402, baby. That's 855-402-2229 or Janet is reference. Our confidence is in Christ alone, I saw no thanks so much for joining us and witnessing to some of the people who were in the cults. I was always going back to Deuteronomy 1822. This is what it says when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord. If the word does not come to pass or come true. That is a word that the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

This is a great verse for super simple reputation of cults and false religions that purport to have prophets, but whose profits have prophesied falsely. In other words, one false prophecy out of the mouth of a so-called prophet is enough to tell you that he's a false prophet and was not sent by God, and what does God think of such profits to go up a few verses in Deuteronomy 18 to verse 20 he says, but if any prophet dares to speak a message in my name that I have not commanded him to speak or to speak in the name of other gods, that prophet must be put to death and that's how seriously the Lord takes false prophecy and yet tragically we have seen a number of people in the modern day professing Christian church recently otter false prophecies about the reelection of Donald Trump and I want to play you a brief clip of some of these so-called prophets listen to this policy without question. Trump is going to win the election will four more years and got this country.

Donald Trump is going to win in 2020 by an absolute landslide will be an eight-year presidency absolutely will you sure about that dumpster about the I saw the president Trump is is reelected and then I saw that then the the system.

The system that was intact and he's he's found he's been fighting against. He is going to take things out by the root.

I declare Psalm 89 verse 21. Let your hand establish present trump and let your arm strength in him. I declare Psalm 98, one that your right hand in your holy arm will give him victory. We declare victory in the name of Jesus. It is here. He not be impeached for another term. I was completely wrong for responsibility for being wrong. There's no excuse for it.

I think it doesn't make you false prophet, but it does actually create a credibility job lot lot. People trust me trust my ministry. I want to say that I am very sorry for everyone who put their trust in the boy there you have it so that is a video by charismatic to visit him, and the false prophets in the last one apologizing and saying hey just because I prophesied falsely doesn't mean I'm a false prophet. What is the word of God say about all of this were to tackle it today with Don Vino, Pres. of Midwest Christian outreach is been writing about it over at his website done welcome. It's great to have you back. Yes, just because I uttered a false prophecy.

Don doesn't make me a false prophets just just a credit credibility gap what we say to that. Well, what we go to the word of God for you him and I would also back a few chapters earlier because your who definition use particular false prophets fail on both counts. Yes, explain how could you talk about Deuteronomy 13 right yes.

Also pretty clear that every prophet makes a prediction and it does happen to work at full throttle could make it to production blocking lead you to serve other dogs. They are a false prophet are also some questions does the God of Scripture to depend on man giving him permission to walk and we are now or your college troubles. Okay, so you don't have an all-powerful God amongst the new apostolic Reformation folks daughter got a fair permission to stop all secondly the dog. Talk about is clearly very sellable daughter goes to know all things you didn't know about Colbert, for example, and was prophesying over to be warm and wonderful and we read, the best year ever in 2020 from Vancouver to the room was completely shocked and taken aback by the so your view of God is decidedly not.

Review of the biblical God, but we are taught about solid Savior. Right now, these are really important things because I know going back to the cults and I know you've done lots and lots of work on the cults and exposing the cults. I was thinking to myself if you can just utter a false prophecy that you said was from God, then we owe an apology don't way to Joseph Smith and Charles tased Russell and David Berg because they made false prophecies about the end of the world and about a comet destroying the US back in 1974. That never happened. Don't they get some kind of leeway to just apologize and move on. If these guys can.

We are going to be good. Mayor Coble will do over everyone: Scripture doesn't give you that option so so this is such a viewpoint about and 13 are Deuteronomy came the same preferential dog is the same thing in Deuteronomy 13 the same professional dog and in Zechariah we wrote about this week. Zechariah 13 truths is really efficient person if anyone again prophecies his father and mother, who bore him will say to him, you shall not live you speak lies in the name of the Lord and his father and mother, who bore him shall pierce him through working prophecies.

Not only is it in the hands of the people in the hands of his own parents serial capital part serious stuff. While it is serious stuff and the thing that really you know there are a lot of different things you can say about these prophecies but it seems that over the years. These particular areas. Some of these particular folks sometimes come back with lame excuses what I misheard. It's not the Lord's fault. I just miss her.

But this begs the questions on what makes them think that they have a direct line for God to speak to us when we have a Bible, why do we need them to tell us the future if the Bible is complete. If the canon is finish why we need these people to Sadie's valid question. If I were a caring matter.

I would entered toward yes we have a complete Canon however it actually clearly see that in the in the words. My take is the start of a church that God also raised up those would be proffered. Visions and dreams of server so my response letters, yes you may have leaving and going to see when a dream or vision what you always cognizant and aware that it may not be from God or could just be heartburn. She handles very carefully right I don't hear about your heartburn. The thought she had me that I didn't. We can we get we can get internal, leaving some things I myself but I have a situation once I were young lady that we knew was had left her house, going somewhere in about two hours where I felt I felt driven to have to go find her didn't even order walk. I just knew something was wrong and forgot to introspection from referral to commercial cargo box leading I have it.

Other times were to call someone. I'm not sure why burger shortening to call you my goal number one. Glad to do so that's one thing about saying God told me you're saying. I suspect I feel like a big one when you say also stored God said ask that is a clear prophecy is and must be trusted as a prophecy in Scripture in Matthew 715.

The following is liquid because as you follow it through.

Beware of false prophets, who come to you what you told told us two things one were looking for false prophets wrote to the going to look like yeah yeah let me pick up on the other side.

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It's another thing to say. I think Donald Trump was actually treated wrongly, and I don't believe that all of the votes that came in actually were valid votes and I think we reject that's one thing but to stand up and to say God told me, and I prophesy and this is gonna come to pass and then to have to have egg on your face after the fact and say will wait a minute Joe Biden is now the president you have to go back to the word of God and see just how seriously the Lord takes anybody who claims to speak for him whose prophecies do not come to pass and Don Vino is with us, Pres. of Midwest Christian outreach. He's written on this Don you were talking before the break about this very important point about looking for false prophets were not looking for true prophets. But going back to Matthew. Can you can you pick up on that point one side note for the word was stolen what it was or not.

It also cost to the godly worship because he didn't know it would be stolen see that another good point yeah good point about omission of salt yet.

Matthew 715, following so the pictures that you got a Jewish rabbi, the Messiah, who were dark of the world. That's what happened. She's also the one who gave the language of 1300 right. Deuteronomy 18 Moses is author of the test as well and he is talking with the Jewish audience who has memorized and so's beware of false prophets. They already have the post. In your mind her know exactly what it is. Will come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves by their fruits you shall know them. The fruits are there false prophecies about anything else because you looking for false prophets. Not looking to see if I was a Christian, not a Christian you not working for earlier hot dog vendor you're looking for false prophets, who come to looking like true prophets. As you follow the text through all the way to begin on judgment day. Go say but didn't we in your name, prophecy, and in your name, work miracles, and depart from you workers of iniquity so didn't matter that they performed miracles of the prophet's name that mattered that there were false prophets to look for which you work to Sean so we don't going to Duff today went with theocracy which was fortunate for adulterers as well. I that's right so they should not be in the pulpit churches around the nation or around the world. It should be immediately removed from removed from the pulpit to write such a good point because when when you hear these excuses for why these people uttered false prophecies.

They like to talk about everything but the false prophecy Dante because that's the main problem but I'm a good guy, but I'm a Christian, but I've been right before but I miss her. Got all of these other excuses. So what are we to treat people like this because when you see some of these people there would be a range I would say from heretic to may be that guy don't know. I don't know how you classify all these people that I played in that clip in the last segment. What you do with these people at this point I can respond to how I and the text of Scripture. I know Michael Brown, for example, stated quietly and in a recent article that they prophesied falsely is clear that the medical prophecy were good.

He goes on to create two additional categories from false prophet true prophet to falsely called prophet to prophesied falsely not to be confused with a false prophet.

Somehow, I don't know where that's contesting well but it gives them kind of a a you know you overweight. We just do the work that we have good intentions, that's all. Intentionality is not about accuracy. We find in Scripture. So what's take a category difference just like category that has the same punishment. Capital punishment was say this adulterer in the pulpit. Do we say I know your intent was not to have an adulterous affair or just go shortwave. Your moment of your setting and you have the going and so you just want to be the pastor say that no but what about a pedophile. Yeah, I know you really have difficulty cut your born-again. I understand that you struggle with this in your life you are really, really love the Lord hears such a good pastor. This is just you want, little hiccup in life. So you just go ahead and send it know. In both cases in the Old Testament there was talk about that was no discussion about it know my plan was, nor did it one. So how differ only differs because it doesn't seem to matter as dangerous or evil. It is both dangerous and evil because you're dealing with people's spiritual lives right. What doesn't this also cast the notion of how you say it hurts the credibility of Christians in the eyes of the world because there were some so many I'm saying this almost as if this was kind about and I don't know people's motives or intentions. I can't speak for any of these people, but it does kind of look like hand and a jump on this bandwagon because it gets me attention. It really does look like that to some extent, that may be the case but you know you while in and you know that we really try as much as possible to focus on the content, not the intent you have to. I can't. I can't deal with. I don't know what I want to tell me right I don't know. I think some really well-intentioned people can be misled or mislead themselves or the Scripture tells us that in latter days, there will wax worse and worse. This evening, and being perceived interesting phrase this evening and begin to see so you could have someone who is well-intentioned, but is himself deceived and in turn deceiving others. That's why entrenchment doesn't matter thing that strikes me down is that we have.

I would say something of a famine of the hearing of the word of the Lord per Amos and I think many of us recognize this and and recognize that it's getting worse. On some level.

What also bugs me about this is the fact that we have an entire Bible that I would argue most Christians don't read and don't understand. Can we just stick with the text of the Bible and leave your particular urgings or leadings or what you think is coming from the spirit that can't be verified by the Bible leave that aside, even if you think it's from God and stick to the Bible. Why is that so hard. We need to be fed by the word of God as it is written, I can tell you why is Carter recorder work. Yeah that's right.

And you do that work. You start learning some things about reading context, understanding, history, why were things about in the Bible.

What we think about what I do because I have a cardboard lined up so you have this rabbi that comes along and he sees this to fishermen, God is not enough for me to follow him to go wanted to do that work is nonsense what you're missing is growing up Jewish in the first century.

Your goal was to be a rabbi you memorized for your exam from time to time as you were growing up while you are also learning your father's trade and when you were the day you become a man that you what met with Rabbi to be a disciple and he gave you were touched by F your question of verse and you had to respond with a versa visually before or after that text to recited you didn't have chapter numbers or anything at 300 N. line memory at the end of which he was one of two things follow me, which means you pass your professional disciple or go and ply your trade. You failed what we find is you guys doing applying their trade.

That music failed shoulder socket is also true when the rabbi comes glasses follow me.

They left you are going to be rabbi was important not to forget that after the question, reading the Bible requires some of that it requires work.

It requires understanding the history of the context. Why did Paul write to. Why did Jesus say why did Moses communicate what he did all of those figure structure into the questions read the Bible. I have to tell you we have a largely illiterate church because church leadership are not teaching the Bible a love the word be to learn the word fee to study the word and deed to think about life logically and use your mind because of those sites will portal for your heart with all your soul and guess what, with all your mind so that's what we have and that's what's going on in the church and that's what we need to guard against. How would you tell Christians to guard against these kinds of false prophets. Is there a way that we can discern them ahead of time or will we just have to wait for them to say something silly that's not true, and then figure it out or how do we discern these sorts of false teachers and false prophets will one way of living Aragua true heretical group pretty pretty sure they're going to be teaching false prophecy. If you have the full writing right Bill Johnson one of the biggest pot has a school prophets. Oddly enough of that in order to graduate.

You have to make three false prophecies that Clarice that's KO now teaching you the false prophecies are okay well on one of the pastors there was one of the ones who came out and you heard that Annette Klapper he was saying. Oops, I will write right Valentine instead of just because I made a false prophecy doesn't mean that I'm a false prophets any again down. This is very important for people to keep in mind go back to the word of God. Every single time be a Marine about all this. Wish we had more time but you can check out Don's great

Thank you.

Keep up the good work done. It was great to talk to you again read both article you have a question. Sounds good you listening to Janet this archived broadcast of Janet Mefford today is brought to you by pre-born for $140 you can provide ultrasounds to five women in crisis pregnancies.

Call now 855402, baby. That's 855-402-2229 or Janet Mefford today and here's your host Joe Mefford well now that we have a progressive back in the White House.

How might that change the landscape for Americans health care Washington Examiner recently reported that Pres. Biden is likely to overturn president from 2018 executive order loosening rules for short-term health insurance policies, which was an effort to provide alternatives to Obama care plans. The Democrats described as sabotage of the Washington Post reports that the president is poised to put Obama care back on even stronger footing as well through some more executive actions to get some thoughts on it now for Matt Fales chief communications officer from liberty national nonprofit healthcare sharing ministry and Matt it's always wonderful to talk to you. How are you today are to be here to you that well we have a new president and places everybody knows how to anticipate things might change when it comes to the entire healthcare issue. Obviously, we have these executive actions that could be forthcoming, but you looking upon the entire healthcare issue right now with the new White House will pertain to the walls that we have what we see in the rumblings that we ever that there will be your work. Turning more to ACA practices. There may be a reversal of some things should know back in 27. There was the removal of the penalty for healthcare or lease not having healthcare. Yes, yes, that would of course take an act of Congress to change but you know, Congress passes bills all the time so that could drink, but as it pertains to the executive orders we have seen some certain things that have come down the pike that were reversals of the of the trunk era policies and executive orders. Like you said the short term limited duration plans. There are some things in pertains to pharmaceuticals as well. So we are going to see some changes in healthcare, known to me, all signs point to a little more bureaucratic. I don't think that the people are going to start pulling people off of the ventilator, but you know as it pertains to government bureaucracy and help your we are going to see more of that. I guess that's just some par for the course and nobody's really surprised, but of course going back to the accents of the affordable care act.

There was a provision that was put into place so that you know liberty hell sharecropper rate as a healthcare sharing ministry and do you anticipate that that's still going to stay the same. Politically, because we have certain things with you not severable, and so that you may come up again but with healthcare sharing were here. We were here before the ACA were here during the day will be here as long as we can stand because there are so many people that want to be a part of ensuring and what we do that we are continuously fighting for them in the right to do so well right good news is even greater bureaucratization of medicine as we go into the jerk healthcare sharing still is that the best you know of freedom where individuals can gather together to share their medical bills and give a level of book control back to the patient's right over here and here to do committed to it won't. That's excellent and you know it's funny because people do sorta bad and I now on the issue of affordable care act, given how many people are suffering under the on affordability of the affordable care act and how much more premiums have gone up, especially people who have health care coverage to their employers. For example, and and maybe some questions arise about how is it that liberty.

Hell, she or actually can be affordable in a way that a lot of people are finding insurance simply is not.

Will we do certain things with healthcare that really drive the cost of healthcare down. We actually release the most cost effective. Most cost course in healthcare today and that's the private pay patient patient who is taking on the responsibility of healthcare themselves but is backed up by a community of people to share whatever that need homes.

That is a force to be reckoned with. Because it puts the patient back in charge of the power of the purse strings again that allow you to shop that allow you to find the best bagels to guide in managing director of healthcare from the constraints of a third-party insurance system or government program. Really when it comes to healthcare healthcare, sharing back the control and that is all the world of difference when it comes to healthcare in terms of savings. We still negotiate on behalf of our members. We find ways to make sure were paying as little for healthcare as possible.

We use pricing models that allow us to get the cash price for healthcare so many multiple options to make those healthcare bills XP 7080% off of Bill George's. It's just been fantastic, actually Janet you might like to know that I just learned today that with over the past four years of liberty hell shared with our members. We shared an overall $1.2 worth of medical bills, so it's just been fantastic to see the rapid success of liberty. Culture well that's exciting and you know many people who are just getting going on the healthcare sharing ministry way of doing their bill paying for their healthcare needs. They have a lot of questions, one of which happens to be about how doctors and hospitals get paid because they'll say I know how it works if I have insurance, I hand over my card to the receptionist and she takes care of everything from there and I might get a co-pay and then later on I might get another bill saying you still owe us more money after insurance company pays, how does it work when you have a private patient pay system in place like you do.

How does that work if you going to the doctor walk us through that. If you would not very different from what other people recognize you have more options and more choices open and available to you when you go to the doctor or hospital you show your liberty culture membership card that directs the hospital on how to process that bill and send it to liberty Osher on your behalf. If the hospital wants to work with you directly. You can have them bill you can send us the bill.

We would have members of liberty Osher repay, and then send in the amount of money to be paid back to them. It just gives you an amount of options that you can utilize throughout your healthcare so you're not stuck only one bottle we love to be able to be involved in you try to negotiate those prices so we suggest that the hospitals and doctors send the bill to us, but with liberty health and as a member of healthcare sharing. The options are open for you. So whatever works best were here to help you swallow now you use something called the share box. What is the share box exactly and how does that play into your entire system of healthcare sharing online portal that we use for all of our sharing, giving and receiving. That's where our membership comes together as a community to share our medical bills. You see your bill there and see how there. You can even interact with other members and send messages of prayer and encouragement in their times of me that our share box is just one of those online areas where we gather together to do the work of actual healthcare sharing right so that's good. That's one of the advantages. I know that is so different than if you are in an insurance plan because you're not talking to other members of insurance companies when you are struggling maybe with a cancer diagnosis or some other kind of meal terrible illness and you really could use people coming alongside you and saying I'm praying for you or or is sending you know thinking of you today. These kinds of things that the personal angle of the liberty house to her community really is an advantages and it just from a personal standpoint to be able to connect with other people who are in many cases maybe going to the same thing you are not the spirit to know that you have other people out there actually are out there praying for you, help you. I've been on there seem people say you know I'm going through cancer, but the person who is really suffering is my husband who has to go through this and other people pipe up to say, I've dealt with the same thing and they're able to be of support with one another, always, to the point I don't know how I people are able to look to work together and coordinate with one another. It's just a fantastic well that is exciting and it's really easy to get more information. There's a website that you can visit.

It is liberty liberty house.Oregon. More information is available there. Matt Dallas with us from liberty hell share national nonprofit healthcare sharing ministry.

Always good to talk to Matt.

Take care you as well. Thank you alright thanks a lot for being with us will be back hi this is Janet Mefford.

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That's basically everybody in America everybody in America wants the vaccine or is it just kind of putting everything together so everybody has to have it will see how this kinda flushes out but he said they would get these vaccines from Pfizer and Mozart of the two companies that are providing these vaccines and he says this is going to help make sure the governors and mayors and local leaders have greater certainty around supplies so they can carry out the plans to vaccinate as many people as possible so curious to know of the pretty sizable number of healthcare workers who refuse to get the vaccine.

What one of the stats on that right now. I just think it's interesting there was another person. I think it was in California I just read about a healthcare worker who died right after getting the vaccine like I'm not anti-Baxter. I'm really not, but I'm seeing and I'm noting some of these injuries. Some of these deaths at people think. I think a little too utopian like about vaccination sometimes as people have pointed out before, there are no funds to reimburse people for vaccine injuries and NS been around for quite a while because they do occur from time to time. Nothing is risk-free and I know for a lot of people. The vaccine is a God sent.

They don't want to have to go through cover. 19 they have underlying health conditions or they are vulnerable because they are elderly. I totally understand why you want to take the vaccine, but like I said, nothing is guaranteed to be risk-free. We don't live in a risk-free world every single thing you do is a risk some things are more risky than others. In the case of cover. 19. For many people it's more risky to sit around and perhaps contracted and not know how you might deal with it. If you were to contract that than to actually take the chance and get the vaccine and trust these pharmaceutical companies and you may well be glad you did for other people are not so sure they might be the one saying I want to wait to see how this goes.

I don't want to be one of the first guinea pigs I know they tested people, but they didn't test everybody they didn't do all this testing on pregnant women. They didn't do substantial testing on elderly people. In particular, I want to see how this plays out.

Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that but I don't know how the government is going to put up with us because we have progressives in charge and we know what they're doing already. So who knows where it will go out. Meantime, we can't seem to shake Dr. Fauci. I don't know how long this guy who was recently revealed to be the top paid government official making even more than the president it somewhere in the neighborhood of $417,000 a year. What county do that's worth $417,000 a year other than go on CNN in a loop film and constantly change his story about what will keep you safe. I came across this from the CNN global town hall to say it that way because these people are so so pompous and women global town hall is nobody else who has a cable TV network and reach the globe except all of them anyway. This was hosted by Dr. Sanjay grouped and Anderson Cooper and they had on the cover 19 guru Dr. Anthony found she to answer a viewers question about when immunity begins after you receive a coping 19 vaccine.

You are just gonna love this answer. One of the worst cards about the pandemic is not travel freely to see our grandchildren.

My husband and I just got the first 700 and vaccine February 1920 the second dose when immunity and when will you be able to travel that we just heard Dr. Wilensky say now is not the time to be traveling but but what about this type of situation. Specifically, well you know what what the what the person who called that question and said when will they have immunity. Well, you can get some degree of protection some degree that is endurable. You know, 10 days to 14 days after the first dose, but you can rely on that the maximum immunity begins about 10 days to two weeks and beyond. Following the second dose that's goes for anyone, regardless of whether you want to travel or not.

That would give you as a group about and 94 to 95% efficacy and a good safety profile the situation, though does not change with Dr. Wilensky said that it is not a good idea to travel. I'm sorry, what did you just say let me go over what he just said in case some of it stunned you too much at the very end, when you heard what he said.

Given what he said right before that he was answering this viewers question about when she could travel we got the vaccine. My husband and I elderly couple we got the vaccine.

When will it be safe for us to travel. We miss our grandchildren. We want to go see our grandchildren what you think.

So he says you'll get a little bit of immunity after the first dose of the cover 19 vaccine that happens within 10 days to 14 days, which can rely on that. So after the second dose of the cover 19 vaccine. That's when you will reach this maximum immunity which takes place about 10 days to two weeks beyond the second dose and that gives you 94 to 95% efficacy and safety profile.

Then he finishes half price pain you're not safe to travel with anybody getting the vaccine and all you can't travel we can't travel you can travel.

I've traveled many times during the pandemic. I've flown many times during the pandemic. I'm still here and I'm not saying you can't get the code 19 when you're traveling but can we live our lives in any point you people when we get to live our lives here is my answer to this.

Do what is wise to do given your circumstances. And these things are different for everybody. Perhaps you do have to make trips across the country.

You do have to fly or you do have to get your car and drive to another state because somebody love needs you. And if that's the case and you weigh the risks and you take precautions and so far she can whether it's getting vaccine or washing your hands more wearing masks inside or what have you, then do it. But are you let the government tell you. Sorry, sorry. Even with that vaccine stay home is sorry. The grandkids are just can have to look at pictures of you for the rest of your life and you probably will die before they get to see you, but at least they'll be safe having this disc. What in the world and the whole panel that's really deep.

Dr. Fauci but that she doesn't want you to take off your masks. See, this is part of that. Let's listen to the rest of what he said Mrs. Guthrie, I mean if you absolutely have to travel, and it's essential that obviously one would have to do that but we don't want people to think because they got vaccinated then other public health recommendations. Just don't apply. One of the biggest things that are really not well understood as people ask why should I even have to wear a mask after I get my second shot and the reason is very clear that the primary endpoint of the vaccine trial was clinically apparent infection so you could conceivably get infected get no symptoms and still have virus in your nasopharynx, which means that you would have to wear a mask to prevent you from infecting someone else as well as the other side of the coin when you may not be totally protected yourself so getting vaccinated does not say now I have a free pass to travel, nor does it say that I have a free pass to put aside all of the public health measures that we talk about all the time is absolutely unbelievable. And did you see that New York Times piece from a few days ago saying that really what you wanted be doing is wearing to masks or we could take them off and live our lives. That's another option and just wear them in more pressing situations. Did you catch what he said even if you've had the vaccine cove.

It might be hiding in your nose might be hiding in your nose.

Even though you don't know you have it and you have no symptoms.

It could be stealthily hiding in your nose and therefore to be protected from the COBIT between your nose that you're immunized against wear a mask. This make any sense whatsoever, and then even worse. He says it would protect you from getting cove it or giving it to somebody, but additionally if you have that mask on. After being vaccinated and having COBIT hiding in your toes. You will be protected against somebody else giving it to see if I get this straight to somebody else with coping 19 wearing a mask is going to spread it to you if you don't have a mask on. Even though you already have COBIT living in your nose. Let me ask you a very important question. Dr. Fauci not that you're here. This is all playing playing here that what about if you haven't had a vaccine, but you go to Washington nationals game and you're sitting in the bleachers at a Washington nationals came knocking it up with your friends. Can you take off the mask, then I'm just wondering because we have all seen the picture of you yakking it up in the stands of a Washington nationals baseball game didn't look all that concerned about masking then did you Dr. Fauci. Well, did you say anything at all about the importance of masks in that particular moment, so it's masks for you forever apparently and stay home for good. Don't go anywhere. Don't leave, don't do anything, do you begin to get the feeling that there is more to this for the progressives than meets the eye. If so, I'm with you masks because, lives in your nose picture immunize this just and of course the panel also is tough to function. Unbelievable.

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