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May 7, 2020 6:00 am

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May 7, 2020 6:00 am

How can churches and parachurch organizations deal biblically with the lockdown exacerbation of porn addiction and loneliness? I'll talk it over Christian apologist and bestselling author Josh McDowell. Plus: A tyrannical judge has sentenced a Dallas beauty salon owner to jail for defying orders to keep her business closed. But will Shelley Luther inspire a freedom revolution? That and more on Thursday's JANET MEFFERD TODAY.

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This archived broadcast of Janet for today is brought to you by Liberty health sheer liberty healthcare is a nonprofit healthcare sharing ministry that allows you to control and manage your own healthcare and choose any doctor or hospital in the nation. If your freedom loving American looking for contract free healthcare call now 855-585-4237 or go to liberty healthcare.org/GMT for more information liberty healthcare.org/GMT, our confidence is in Christ alone might see as a consequence of this pandemic churches and parachurch organizations will need to be prepared for changes in the wake of covered 19 and my next guest is now warning us about the exploding numbers of people dealing in particular with loneliness and pornography addiction due to the coronavirus isolation. So today were to talk about this with Josh McDowell, founder and president of judgment on ministry and author or co-author of 152 books including more than a carpenter, and evidence that demands a verdict today will be talking about this new document that he's put out called what comes next. What will life be like after the code 19 pandemic Josh so great to welcome you back to the show. How are you all like part of the Trinity calling me you're funny you're funny. I'm glad you're in good spirits because a lot of people are really having a difficult time right now.

Can you talk a little bit about what your concerns are post COBIT 19, especially as it pertains to the isolation a lot of people have been in probably sold the most important. You understand the virus isolation everything do not cause any of this is just intensify that why you go back to rebuttal before the virus three top epidemics in the world. Globally in every country, every continent was pornography, loneliness and depression of depression were two of the three greatest epidemics everywhere in the world so long comes the isolation would be of virus. It loneliness, depression, and pornography. Let me show you what I mean.

There are several things that trigger anxiety, depression, loneliness, and pornography. Stress your isolation. The unknown, etc. although speed into it and I believe that we come out of this which will not be too long for Bell probably when we come out of this church better be ready to minister to loneliness in people is a problem before the epidemic. Bell, the epidemic is exasperated and depression and pornography. These three will be the greatest challenges of the church in the next 2 to 3 years after the pandemic in my ear is the church will not be ready or will not address these three areas that takes place, the church, the body of Christ were in trouble were in trouble, but you know I have a lot of confidence in the church historically in almost every situation, resituate the church's response to it. There's a probably respond a little late. Continued up the waves crash, not as a wave is gathering speed and so what I'm trying to do through my website emails everything else is to get pastors now to prepare themselves to address these three issues. While I agree with you. I think this is this is a great opportunity for ministry. That's the upside of all of this, but the question is how can pastors prepare to address this. Once all of these lockdowns are lifted and we begin to see maybe some of the damage that's been done inside people's homes as they been struggling with these issues.

What can pastors do you need to start now. What I you go to Josh.or by website Josh.org/quoted pornography. The porn epidemic. There is a fountain hundred all documented pages, broken down and I think it's documents all for sermon prep for pastors, they would have to go anywhere else. It's all there for them or they could go to Josh.org/loneliness.

I have third documents on loneliness from what is it, what causes the what are the symptoms of it. How do you deal with it. What of the Bible say about it. Everything and it's what I try to always do the homework. The prep for pastors you go to Josh.org/depression you get the same thing. Or Josh.org/anxiety and your good number of documents on anxiety. What is what causes it. I was it manifested was a Bible say about it and how to overcome it. And so that's what I tried to do. Janet to help pastors wonder and I can send I am sending out emails about 14,000 pastors and youth pastors but I can't put all this into an email 01.

You couldn't send email blast with a patch of its rights, circuit emails would would be to all needed and soon. That's why I have the link to my website is not to promote me my ministry.

The website is to serve pastors wipe it on my website that's excellence as you say, that's a lot of information to try to email, but it is available and just not orcs.

Let me ask you this.

Just when you're talking about how pastors we deal specifically with the issue of pornography.

I would imagine this would be a bit tricky because if you are to address this in the sermon.

For example, I'm sure pastors are mindful of the fact that you have children there you have wives there. You might have. Older people there who don't want to get into the nitty-gritty of some of this stuff. You get around the awkwardness of discussing something that is tawdry in a family context where you do have little one sitting there listening to the sermon one. You have to be very why this is what I you do 234 part series in the first couple sure is what you have to do what the Bible say about sexuality you got to address that you've got to come up with a beautiful illustration of biblical sexuality. Why, because every child. Every person is going to go by pornography on the Internet, it will flash up and when for a young person that flashes up for most of them because they've never been taught what the Bible says about sexuality don't how beautiful it is positive in all.

They cannot discern the difference between a counterfeit and the original right and Chris Young people going for you and so we've got to build into a child idly started, five, six, seven years old a certain concept of sexuality. So we do see you there going to see it is not. If they see it issue is when they see it that they will meet building to protect. This is a counterfeit. It's not the original but I agree with you in the church service you can. You have to handle it. Generally what you're going to need a couple seminars maybe a Thursday night so I should something else 010 isolation for adults only. When I see adults from 15 above where you can really lay it out because of the pastor doesn't do it, then the pastor is responsible for many of his congregation going in the pornography because they will go in the pornography. There's 2.3 billion pages one click away on the Internet that can access right in the church sanctuary that stand so you need seminars but you gotta be careful how you advertise the seminars you say Saturday morning men.

We have a seminar on pornography. I want you to meet with nobody's go to go so you how to do it but have a friend struggled with some of the areas of sexuality and all and I would like you to be there. Don't know what you talk about them and will rights and the adults will end in the same thing for wives and others. Every church should have seminars how to minister to the wife of a porn addict because there is one almost every pastor says look.

The Bible says your bigger husband you need to please your husband be attractive.

Your husband and obeying him. Yeah, you're probably end up committing suicide sums to pornography you're making such good points and this is all very very important stuff to discuss is you're talking to pastors and trying to advise them on what to do in light of these challenges, Josh McDowell. With us working to take a short break will come right back by Janet effort today.

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All gifts are tax-deductible. That's 855-402-2229 or there's a pre-born banner to click@janet.com you're listening to Josh McDowell joining me founder and president of just Mattel ministry can find it@josh.org on the Internet and we are talking about some of the challenges that the church will be facing after this covert, 19 pandemic is gone and even now, we've been discussing Josh and you've done a lot of research in this area at your website.

People can find the documentation for their sermons. For example, for pastors on how issues like pornography in depression and anxiety and loneliness really are exacerbated during this period of lockdown during the coronavirus which other stuff that you talked about in this. What comes next document Josh which I wanted to ask you about is your talking about life after the pandemic. I just like the concept of that. I'm looking forward to being in those days after the pandemic, but something else to discuss is going to be much better. I really do hope so.

I'm praying for that and I was intrigued at what you said. For example I'm gonna jump around a little bit but you talked about the spiritual climate you say there will be a shift in the spiritual climate with greater interest in spiritual things but not necessarily interest in churches what you mean there.

What I mean by that.

Afterwards, people are going to be thinking more spiritually. Not church will be thinking more because they been isolated for two months or whatever and they're going to be thinking about spiritual things out about going to church and here's the thing. Pastors do not address some of these critical issues that are being exasperated back claws exasperated by the lockdown and the fear of the buyers and the stress and all. Then people will not attach spiritual things with the church. I am more convinced it will be harder to get people to go to church and remain in church unless you are really relevant on what they're going through.

So that's why say there's going to be an emphasis on spiritual things and not so much an emphasis on the church when people are talking about spiritual things. What sorts of questions do you envision people will be asking that will enable Christians to respond and to guide people into the truth about Jesus Christ. How could a loving God allow some lockup pandemic to happen to be one of the first questions that they would ask the other would be is God good.

I believe Janet is the number one apologetic question in the world, if not the manuscript. See evidence for the New Testament the oath that no the resurrection. Christ is God good Anderson number reasons are that the pandemic is causing that, and also as wonderful as the Internet is the Internet gives churches people like me and others fast audiences. We never dreamed up. But at the same time, the Internet broadcast many of the negative things pastor also pornography like this last week I was brought aware of 33 by people in their congregation that spreads globally on the Internet almost instantly. Yes, and so they see our dirty laundry, not just the clean shirt that's beautifully hanging there and as a result of that there they're asking a little different. Questions about is God good.

How can you say the church is a young child can see Christianity answer. Look at the way many Christians live in. That's one thing that's being exasperated by the pandemic. Good point. Do you think that Christians will have a renewed appreciation for their churches because I'm beginning to sense that as I'm talking to a lot of people there. Same boy do I miss my church. I miss going gathering with the Saints online church is a good substitute but not for very long because there are just a lot of things involving ministry and fellowship that we can't get on the Internet.

Will this be really a buoy for Christian spiritually going back to church in person and that we will have this renewed interest and while we we really appreciate the fact that we can gather in a way we didn't before the pandemic happened logical that that would happen in my life and on the last couple weeks is all you know I like Sunday going on the web and watching it.

I just miss being there and seeing friends and hugging them and shaking her and literally physically a part of the Musee the emotion of it but I would think this would happen, but it won't last long if the pastors do not address loneliness, depression, anxiety, and pornography.

It won't because every person has a certain degree of it and so I encourage look the church is God's institution will rise up pastors my heroes of life for pastors. I don't know how pastors do it.

They got the only job of being a pastor's being a pastor's wife but a pastor's gotta be all things. Everybody's got a Miriam's got a very musical occultism is going to teach him. He's got encourage you everything.

Plus he's got his own family to raise sure he's got his own memories to take care of not not just other people's marriages and families. So I try to do everything I can to help pastors. That's why I put on Josh Lord Josh.org/you go to loneliness, depression, anxiety or pornography and pastor I can help you that's I serve you. That's what I want to do. But yes, I think there will be a much I think there already is a much greater appreciation for each persons church yes I know there is for me. I miss my pastors. I miss being there.

I miss seeing Frank at the front hanging out the bulletin. All I miss going by picking up the roller a donut with a great cup of coffee. There's one thing to do that your house another thing to do it with others will sit on the table meant a couple other people components or you just don't think that I don't know if it will have a conversational, you can't do that in your home but I tell everyone reach out to friends email, text messages and phone touch base with friends, listen to your friends share with your friends and if you're really lonely call when your friends was a close friend and share it with probably only to serve the two of you can minister to each other. If you're doing the press. Trust me, your friends are feeling depressed or having anxiety called them and share with them your feelings and give them an opportunity to share their feelings and I'll guarantee when you hang up you be a lot better off. That's wonderful. I think that's great. It's nice you know when you're talking about addressing pornography and the need for pastors to do that along with depression and loneliness.

What loneliness pastors best address. That's because there are some people obviously in society who are alone. Maybe their widow or their divorce store there single they've been isolating alone for the most part and it's not an easy alleviation when you live by yourself to immediately address loneliness and have a quick fix. But what would you advise pastors to do in order to address loneliness and that continuing problem for many people are up 14.1 is it to be very clear from Genesis and all that when God created he said everything was good except for one thing he said is not good and that was that man should not be alone.

This and that is one thing, and it's important for people to understand that God doesn't want to alone not mean just you there. It means your your your your emotions at all in your attitude and everything of loneliness. I know people live alone in their anything but lonely and then I would have the pastor going out through a number of things. What I should before, have them call one or two of their close friends now. Usually women will have three, four, five) they can call it dumb fun but soon might be lucky to have one friend but call a friend and share with them what you're feeling asked them how they're doing and listen to and second get into a schedule. From the moment you walk.

Wake up in the morning to go to bed at night. Have a schedule what your day would do.

For example, for me when I wake up in the morning the first thing I do before I have devotions writing.

I fixed the coffee machine. I pour in water put in the beams of empty the water on the bottom and empty the coffee grounds and get it all set up for the rest the day for Dottie and me and then I take all the dishes all the dishwasher put them away. Why should we dishes that are in the sink I wipe off the counter and clean the floor then I go in and I have this special book now that I'm doing are three volumes of it for my devotionals and it was written for kids, but I think it was written about the 25-year-old level. That's a mistake they made. But I just love it. And Saul spent time in the word of God because for me. Everything in your life. The umbrella over it all is God's word and prayer and then I have a certain routine.

I go to that date each day for me and this is true most personalities I need to build an accomplishment. When I go to bed at night and I've accomplished something I can sleep so much better. That's make some people want that way but another thing is that part of your life and try to encourage others during this time. For example, after I do my devotions I write 10 notes of encouragement to 10 people send mail on that day. During the day I count sometimes I split in the emails and telephone calls, especially people overseas to encourage them and then before I go to bed I write 10 more personal encouragement notes to people so that each day I'm touching 30 people's lives apart from all the TV, radio, journals that I do and that is terrific. Well really have to leave it there but I tell you can go to Josh.org and access all this great information just got bless thanks for being with us again shows got Lacey thanks a lot size and will be back this archived broadcast of Janet for today is brought to you by Liberty health share liberty. Healthcare is a nonprofit healthcare sharing ministry that allows you to control and manage your own healthcare and choose any doctor or hospital in the nation.

If your freedom loving American looking for contract free healthcare call now 855-585-4237 or go to liberty, health share.org/GMT for more information liberty healthcare.org/GMT Mefford today. Here's your host Joe welcome back, today is the national Day of prayer in a very different national Day of prayer during the 69th year of its there will be a lot of virtual activities prayers online and prayers on social media and actually a virtual prayer program from 8 to 10 PM Eastern standard Time tonight's and the theme this year is pray God's glory across the earth based on Habakkuk 214 lots going on. Apparently 60,000 local and state gatherings are expected to take place and this evening's events will feature will Graham who is vice president of the Billy Graham evangelistic Association, along with Kathy Ransdell who is the president of the national Day of prayer task force so you can get more information at their website.

If you'd like to join in. There's a lot going on, and boy do we need prayer. There is a lot to pray for this year new things that we didn't see coming a year ago.

Let's talk a little bit about Texas. Let's talk a little bit about Shelley Luther.

It has not been lost on me that her last name is being upheld by people I see a bold stand for truth is being taken by somebody named Luther I don't think there's any direct connection clearly. But people are kinda getting on the bandwagon and if you have not heard what went on. Shelley Luther is a beauty salon owner in Texas who is given a week in jail and a $7000 fine because she did not obey Gov. Greg Abbott's directive to stay-at-home now there there've been a lot of developments you've had the governor now way in and the Atty. Gen. and Lieut. Gov. M to get to that in just a minute, but according to court documents via CBS. Luther was sentenced to seven days in jail for violating a Temporary Restraining Order to close her business. She's the owner of salon la mode and hot mess enterprises. She opened her salon in April after her city and County ordered the closure of all nonessential businesses in March and she has said that she in fact has opposed the stay-at-home order for financial reasons and publicly ripped up one of the court orders at a protest with 100 other people, so this this this obviously is not going to fly.

But the way it has been playing out has been very disturbing, very disturbing and online.

CBS had aired some of the zoom meeting between the judge and Shelley, Luther and I want you to listen to what this judge had to say. Judge Eric V Moore EA of the 14 civil District Court of Dallas listen to cut one of your way and understand society cannot function with one's own belief is a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials that you won't apology to be elected officials whom you disrespect disrespected flagrantly ignoring in one case the following their orders that you understand that the proper way in which an ordered society to engage concerns which you may have had to hire a lawyer and advocate for change exception or an amendment to Laura's fog of friendship that you publicly state that this is the way that citizens in the state should pay and that you represent to this court, you will today cease operation of this along and not reopen until after further orders of the government licked you to do so. This court will consider the payment of the following in lieu of the incarceration which you demonstrated that you have so clearly while that is pretty tough. You think she was really hardened criminal.

All she did was opener business. Now I understand I understand what's going on here that the state does have a right in some respects to what goes on at your business.

For example, if you have faulty electrical wiring they can step in and say here you don't have a safe business. You gotta clean this up.

You gotta fix this before you're allowed open. They have a writes the state does the government does to grant liquor licenses. You can't serve liquor. Unless you have a liquor license so you have business is being regulated by the government and in a lot of ways that's a good thing. So that part of it.

We understand and I also understand the part where the judge was talking about the need. If you do have a problem with the law. Hire a lawyer try to get an injunction try to get a restraining order or whatever the appropriate legal action is understand that but don't understand the judge coming down on a woman who says I just want to feed my kids and says you owe an apology to the elected officials, whom you disrespected that.

I mean, it sounds like he's taking it personally. And that's not the job of a judge. The job of a judge is to come out with a decision that is in keeping with the law and and in this case, meting out punishment that is deemed appropriate.

I think the punishment did not fit the crime. Although you can say sheet she did violate the orders but mine you have to say you're sorry to the elected officials because you disrespected up here. They're not kings that mean can you imagine being told that you got a traffic ticket. You better apologize to that police officer, whom you disrespected because you went 25 in a school zone. I mean really it's not a high crime or misdemeanor. They are well is mistreat her but you know what I'm saying it till it's a little insane and over-the-top. So this was the response from Shelley Luther listen to Judge.

I would like to have much respect for the court and law, and that I've never been in that position before and it's not someplace that I want to be but I have to disagree with you. Third, when I when you say that I'm selfish because feeding my kids is not selfish. I have hairstylists that are going hungry because they'd rather feed their kids closer.

If you think a lot more important than kids getting fed and please go ahead with your decision, but I am not benefit the salon I no wonder people are resonating with this particular case because so many business owners in particular can identify with this selfish for me to want to feed my kids is not selfish for me to want to take care of my employees. So what has happened since then. Well, as of Friday, hair salons and barbershops can open up again in Texas so this is one of the ways the Gov. Greg Abbott is dealing with the situation, and a number of Texas officials have come out, including the governor.

This is what Gov. Abbott put out as far as a statement saying I join the Atty. Gen. because the Atty. Gen. called for the immediate release of this jail Dallas salon owner Shelley Luther Greg Abbott set I joined the Atty. Gen. in disagreeing with the excessive action by the Dallas judge putting Shelley Luther in jail for seven days. As I have made clear through prior pronouncements jailing Texans for noncompliance with executive orders should always be the last available option compliance with executive orders during this pandemic is important to ensure public safety.

However, surely there are less restrictive means to achieving that goal, then jailing a Texas mother now people immediately sent will pardon her this medical movement on social media, pardon Shelley Luther together pardon. I think what he may do will see what he does. He didn't do that but he's a little bit in between a rock and a hard place because when he's the one issuing the Executive Order he can't really say nevermind my executive order then you look kind of foolish but on the other hand, when this new directive kicks in on Friday.

Hopefully that will be an opportunity to get her out of jail and say she's in jail for seven days, but it's actually okay for her to open up her hair salon to mention the fact that she's getting tons of money on that. Go fund me page.

If you seen that. Anyway, Ken Paxton is calling for the immediate release of Shelley Luther as I mentioned, and said I find it outrageous and out of touch that during this national pandemic, a judge in a county that actually released hardened criminals for fear of contracting COBIT 19 would jail mother for operating her hair salon in an attempt to put food on her family's table, the trial judge did not need to lock up Shelley, Luther, his order is a shameful abuse of judicial discretion which seems like another political stunt in Dallas.

He should release Ms. Luther immediately and here's what's really great. Dan Patrick comes and he's a lieutenant governor of Texas and tweets out this seven days in jail.

No bail, and a $7000 fine is outrageous. No surprise Texans or respond during our responding I'm covering the $7000 fine. She had to pay and I volunteered to be placed under house arrest so she can go to work and feed her kids said no, that is somebody who understands the Texas voter men's health. It is my first reaction.

I think they're going to put the Lt. Gov. of Texas under house arrest in her place there something very Christian about that, though, right somebody who take somebody else's place and takes the punishment for somebody who is in trouble.

It's very very wonderful. We live and die by that as Christians were so glad Jesus did that for us, but I don't think Shelley Luther is going to come out of this loser. I think she's gonna come roaring back to life because she has the support of so many people I come back on Janet effort today don't go away. There's a lot more to come here, Stan Steiner, president of pre-born with an important update.

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I need my business back. I've been under suppose it house arrest for the last several weeks and I have a family to feed, to who can blame them, especially when we see data on the fact that the shutdowns don't work in the lockdowns are not going to stem the tide of COBIT. 19. The way people think that they are. If you see these numbers coming out of New York, some insane number of New Yorkers who were hospitalized were at home when they got covered 19 so maybe they were wit where they got it. I don't know.

I don't know where these people got up and I know the large number of people who are dying and we don't want anybody to die of this, but their people with underlying health conditions and their people who are elderly, you know, most people overwhelmingly are recovering from covered 19 and that's the point. Everybody keeps coming back to who is thinking at all critically about the situation. We can at this is the black plague. It isn't as if everybody who gets covered 19 mean other families all come down with a two and they all drop dad, it's not one of those plague so what is really going on now over in the state of Washington.

You have a story here. I want to play a little bit of this audio as well because this is from TIR 07 in Snohomish, Washington. A barber is doing essentially the same thing that Shelley, Luther, dad and I want to listen to this. It's not just Dallas where this kind of thing is happening. Listen to cut four pushback on the governor's recently extended stay home, order, and his phased-in approach to reopening barber shop has decided to ignore it, pointing to comments from the County Sheriff that he won't enforce it about hotels, that was Michael Spears that gave him the green light to open his doors waited several hours.

Others cross several county lines just to get a haircut at that barbershop. The owner tells us he believes the governor's order goes too far haircut inside a line of eager customers waiting outside this long time Snohomish barbershop openly defined Gov. Ensley's order for businesses like this to remain close for the time being. Owner Bob Martin said more than 130 people stop by for a haircut over the weekend I got aware mess once and I got one in my pocket and he does not feel bad about the overhead is expensive. I had to pay for that while well of course. And then there was something else that made him want to take a stand. Listen to cut five that he felt emboldened by the Snohomish County Sheriff's open defiance of enforcing the governor's order that's now extended, at least until the end of the month right ready for got away from us barbershop will interface to eventually's newly announced or phased approach to reopening the state's economy that could be at least several weeks away, as were now only just beginning. Phase 1, the governor was asked last week what the state would do with businesses jump the gun just hasn't happened in the great members of the press keep wishing for failure here, but that's not how we operate Washington for success and that's what were experiencing success. He has said that she chose to stay at home quarter is working morning lifting restrictions too soon could have devastating consequences echoed by the former FDA Commissioner on Sunday we don't snuff this out more and you have a slow burn of infection, it can ignited anytime this business owner said reopening was not just about money, but the message now think about this for a moment consider if the malady that was consuming everybody's time and attention of the last couple of months was the flu. You could say the same thing in some respects about the flu that you heard right there in that clip. Well, if we open up again, more people will get sack and more people will die.

That's true with the flu as well. If you were to substitute out that particular ailment for Kovic 19 90. The differences between the two have to do with how contagious covered 19 is in the fact that there isn't a vaccine, but it remains a fact that the death rate is about what the seasonal flu is so that's another point people come back to. Here's another story that I think is related to this.

This is from CBS as well.

Texas restaurants that reopened at partial capacity last week have a choice to make, whether or not there, employees should wear masks and they talk about the Hillstone restaurant group in Dallas. They apparently are coming under fire because they don't want their employees to wear masks because they say that this inhibits their business and they don't want them to work. If they wear masks and they have an infectious disease epidemiologist calling Hillstone's decision concerning it is really important to be able to wear those base coverings, especially if you can't keep that 6 foot social distancing which of course when you go into a restaurant that's very hard to maintain so they go on about Greg Abbott's minimum standard health protocols for restaurants and you got a social distance.

Hillstone management points to the law of writing on its website. Current orders do not require our staff or guests to wear facemasks if you're concerned about your safety. In this respect we hope you will join us at a later date. Here's why I bring this up, you know, I talked earlier this week about the issue of masks here a couple of additional things that might be pertinent to this discussion.

This is a story from 7 April on the Guardian. Here's the headline facemasks cannot stop healthy people getting Kovic 19 says the World Health Organization.

The World Health Organization has held off from recommending people wear facemasks in public after assessing fresh evidence that suggested the items may help to contain the pandemic, the WHO reviewed its position on masks in light of data from Hong Kong indicating their widespread use in the community may have reduce the spread of coronavirus in some regions, but an updated guidance. The organization maintain that while masks could help limit the spread of the disease.

They were insufficient on their own. There was no evidence that wearing a mask in the community prevented healthy people from picking up respiratory infections, including Kovic, 19 I thought we were all worshiping the WHO, and all of this. All these Karen's who want everybody to wear a mask and wear gloves and stand 73 feet away from everybody at Walmart and go back home and lock your doors don't care what the WHO has to say about facemasks.

I don't really understand that I and and then I go to the WHO website and it talks about when and how to wear medical masks to protect against coronavirus and they say if you are healthy. You only need to wear a mask if you're taking care of a person with covered 19 so why are people freaking out about masks. Is there no better organization to turn to for advice on this than the World Health Organization that so many of these people who are prone mask revere with the highest reference they're saying if you're healthy, you need a mask. We had other doctors say. In fact, wearing a mask doesn't do anything you need to have exposure to microbes. You need to have exposure to germs. In order for your healthy immune system to get up into gear and to be able to fight off whatever comes your way.

If you are living in a completely sanitized environment with gloves and masks and you look like a surgeon about to go in and operate on somebody you're actually inhibiting your immune system's ability to build up some kind of immunity to whatever germs are coming around so that's when we start talking about herd immunity and things of that sort. That's why there is increasingly a group of people who are single queen a minute, wait a minute, questioning, questioning, questioning, which I think is so important and and you know not allowing fear to take hold of us in such a way that were no longer willing to look at the data as it actually is, or to look at some of the recommendations of people who truly are skilled in immunology and epidemiology. I'm not an immunologist will I know but I know there are a lot of doctors out there were beginning to speak up and say he should be in lockdown that that's actually suppressing your immune system and by the way most of the people who contract covered 19 are surviving and many times they don't even know they haven't. Now this is interesting Daniel Horwitz over conservative review has a good piece really going after Lori Lightfoot.

She's the mayor of Chicago and she announced just a few days ago.

We will shut you down. We will set you and if we need to we will arrest you. Don't make us treat you like a criminal. But if you act like a criminal and you violate the law you refuse to do what is necessary to save lives in the city in the middle of a pandemic we will take you to jail. Thanks mayor, that's wonderful. I have so much confidence in you for threatening me and a public address. If I don't think do things your way. Now this is interesting.

Daniel points out in one of the most unreported stories in the country right now murderers have skyrocketed in Chicago even though everything is shut down while some places are experiencing almost no crime. Chicago murders are tracking ahead of this time last year and there've been 73 more shooting victims than last year.

Again, that is simply astounding given that almost 1/4 of the year so far has been spent on lockdown. So what's it going to be mayor Lightfoot.

If you rob someone with a mask, you're free to go, but if you take off the mask, then it's okay to arrest the dangerous criminal perhaps is not a danger to the community, so long as he pulls his gun out 6 feet away from the victim. This is the hypocrisy that is going on, especially in the left now.

It really tells you a lot about the ideology of the different parties and the different factions when you see how they act in this kind of a situation. Pay attention to pray for this country on this national day of prayer.

There's so much to pray for dear Lord, restore our Republic and bring this nation back to you in the worship of the Lord Jesus Christ, thanks for being with us for today. See


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