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Pro-lifers rejoice as Texas has become the first state to ban nearly all abortions. We’ll talk about it. Plus: How are Christians faring in a dangerous, Taliban-led Afghanistan? Terry Ascott, founder of the SAT-7 media ministry, gives us an update. And pastor Paul Tautges discusses his book, “When Disability Hits Home.” Join us for Thursday's JANET MEFFERD TODAY.

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Rated PG parental guidance suggested in theaters September 10 Janet Mefford today. Our confidence is in Christ alone got some out of the state of just an incredible thing because they have passed this law back in May.

A heartbeat law that was to take effect yesterday and did despite the efforts of the ACLU and Planned Parenthood etc. etc. to try to get it stopped by the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court did not step in to stop it so it took effect, and boy are the pro-abortion folks going berserk, not the least of which was good old president Joe Biden. He blasted the Texas state law. CNN reports banning abortion after as early as six weeks into pregnancy. That's this that the period of time when you hear the baby's heartbeat and it can be detected, called an extreme said it blatantly violates a woman's constitutional right to have an abortion. Where is that in the Constitution. Today Texas law, SB eight went into effect. He said yesterday, this extreme Texas law blatantly violates the constitutional right established under Rowan upheld his precedent for nearly half a century, the Texas law will significantly impair women's access to the healthcare they need killing a child is not healthcare. It's like a breakdown of propaganda line by line particularly.

He said for communities of color in individuals with low incomes and outrageously a deputize as private citizens to bring lawsuits against anyone who they believe has helped another person get an abortion, which might even include family members, healthcare workers front desk staff in a healthcare clinic or strangers with no connections to the individual right. That's the beauty of this law deputized as private citizens to be able to sue abortionist to violate the law. I think it's brilliant. Biden said his administration was deeply committed to a woman's right to have an abortion. The first thing I was thinking about is the fact that you have Planned Parenthood all over this country. Having built these huge abortion mills in these areas where there are men of the majority of the population are minority because they're targeting women of color they're going after women of color to get more blood money. That's why they're there and so of course you have Planned Parenthood going berserk.

Because things are not going well for them on a number of fronts and they know that the direction of the country is moving away from the old feminists and their ideas that if you just go in and get rid of that tissue.

Everything is solved and we know a lot more now we know a lot more science and we have had our moral compass is turned on more and more and more over the years because of the work and hard work of a lot of pro-life leaders now want to go back to when the Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signed this measure into law. This was back in May. Now having taken effect officially yesterday. This is what he said at the time, one our Creator endowed us with the right to life and yet millions of children lose their right to life every year because of abortion. Texas we work to save those lives is exactly what the Texas legislature did this session they work together on a bipartisan basis to pass a bill that I'm about to sign that insures the life of every unborn child who has a heartbeat will be saved from the ravages of abortion are an excellent snob.

This is how it was reported yesterday on ABC News with George Stephanopoulos. Listen to how this was reported and handled. Cut to the state's controversial law banning most abortions has now taken effect after the Supreme Court took no actually study yet to hold off our congressional correspondent Rachel Scott is tracking story good morning Rachel, George, good morning. This is one of the strictest band on abortion in the country and it goes into effect in the state of Texas starting today. Back in May. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signed this measure into law bans abortions as early as next week into pregnancy before most women even know that they are pregnant. The Supreme Court had until midnight to respond to an emergency request to block this before went into effect, they have not yet taken any action 85 to 90% of women get abortions within their first six weeks of pregnancy and without any further action. This will ban nearly all of the abortions in the St. George praise the Lord that's exactly why it's so great is because some 85% of the abortions that were performed in 2020 in the state of Texas were performed after that six week mark. Think of the tens of thousands of lives that will be saved, it is tremendous and I am so proud of my adopted state of Texas for having gone down this road. I am just so delighted that were to have this big court case coming up before the Supreme Court out of Mississippi. We are making a lot of progress. Continue to pray that we will move forward in more and more and more pro-life victories until the day when abortion remains illegal and and that's where we need to go back to. That's we never ever should've legalized abortion in the first place and apparently from what I understand there is not our rape or incest exception, but there is a woman's life in danger exception in this particular legislation there always tweaks and are always things that we have further to do until we can completely outlaw abortion, but I'm grateful for every step along the way and this was a big one.

So praise the Lord. Now let's talk a little bit about Joe Biden. I have to get this in. Because I'm gonna be talking to the founder of San Saba and the media ministry in the Middle East about the situation with Christians in Afghanistan, so I want to talk a little bit about Afghanistan before we lose a little time and have to go into the next break but this is very interesting. This just came out via media research Center, Latino, and one of the writers they are posted an interview of Pardo Maurer. This is actually the former deputy assistant secretary of defense for Western Hemisphere affairs. That's quite a title.

Roger Pardo Moore, who dropped some incredible information during an interview, red state reported on this and he said that the Department of Defense had foreknowledge of the Kabul bomber who killed our guys killed our troops and denied permission to fire to the predator drone that had a lock on the bomber. Now this is an allegation, but this is a pretty good source. I would say somebody who is the forming former deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Western Hemisphere. This is an Joe walking down the street one day in Toledo offering his opinions on what probably happened.

This is somebody who has cut gravitas as we like to say that's a pretty big bombshell.

If true that the United States knew about the Kabul bomber and had a drone lock but didn't take the shot because they didn't want to bug the Taliban and they were trying to do negotiations with Attala man and said they didn't want to cause any further problems. If this is actually true. This is the story just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.

So that's via MRC and red state, then you have the story in the New York Post, and lots of other places and this is you cannot believe these are deep state leaks. There are people who want Biden out who may have stood with him at one time but they want to mount now this is the headline at in the New York Post, Biden pressured Donnie to create the perception that the Taliban weren't winning unbelievable present. Biden pressured Afghanistan president Ostroff Donnie to create the perception that the Taliban weren't winning quote whether it's true or not. In a phone call just three weeks before the insurgencies control of the country. This is from a bombshell leaked transcript that has come out well this so somebody was saying this, I think that I can't remember who this was seen as a little quid pro quo he to me wasn't the case that Pres. Trump was in trouble for a call to the Ukrainian president that turned out to be a big nothing, but in fact it was Joe Biden on tape who really did do a quid pro quo. He still hasn't pay the piper on that one. But in this case, Biden gone he spoke for roughly 14 minutes on July 23 and what would be their final call before the Taliban and overran the government in Afghanistan descended into bloodied chaos amid the botched US withdrawal. Much of the call was focused on what Biden referred to as the Afghan governments perception issue and he said I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban and there is a need, whether it is true or not there is a need to project a different picture. Boy, this guy is much as you know about him out in public behind closed doors sees coming across is way worse and there needs to be really solid focus on these leaks and checking them out and he absolutely needs to be impeached. He needs to resign or be impeached. I will, as president, but this is unbelievable working to keep an eye out on this particular story.

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The first Arabic language and later Farsi and Turkish Christian satellite TV channels and he has been a half-century in the Middle East doing ministry is also author of dare to believe stories of faith from the Middle East and were to find out more now from him. Terry just wonderful to have you with us here, thank you.

I sent seven has been asking for urgent prayer for Christians Afghanistan. What can you tell us about the situation for believers in that country right now. What are you hearing well mean we do here and it really horrible story all in our people being, the summary executed or doctored all so but I think it's really important that we gave a big complex epidemic from the work of ort bald work all tribal leaders, even the pallet band were especially occupied the Taliban itself is not a unified whole. You got all kinds of factions, independent leaders across the country.

I'm sure it's very hard to generalize about the situation of Afghan all oral Christians in the country because the just depends on which Taliban leaders and child which area and that becomes work on the pole. If you have towards the treatment of those associated with the West Christians the treatment of women and go very arbitrary and very incomplete. While we give life would from you telegram Berkman in Cabell for me no homogeneous application of any rule my country right so there's a lot that's unknown at the moment. While I know our State Department has reported the last public Christian church in Afghanistan was raised back in 2010. Is it the case that Christianity is fully underground over there in Afghanistan at the moment have to say yeah but but note if you like. Underestimate the number of their all in the country. Nobody really knows you call Drupal pole after my trip by some of the people to know about attrition on the ground beef 8000 believers, most background in the country of my well well and I know sent seven has been able to do some incredible ministry.

What sorts of ministry. Have you been able to accomplish in Afghanistan and the broader Middle East because we hear so many stories about how more and more people of a Muslim background are coming to know Jesus Christ and are really excited about knowing the Lord for the first time because of the oppressive regimes under which they were raised in under which they live here, you made a good point, more graphic but more people react if you look at the big feel like in the middle to ram democracy, but with the gender goal Saudi Arabia really appeal crisply made metal wanting comfort of been the most impressive. I'm trying to impose Islam on the population that were everything the church growing the file reflect a random fall of the Pope is going church that we know over the world.

You know or even independent leg up over a bump million Christian male in the country.

Now I'm at the 1 million of these would be cumbersome legal self identifying people. 30 figure believe in the wood not submitted very cut right away and got a new the project the above telephone story coming and we have, we have to remember Christian but not found many of the people actually on the verge of starvation. The living relation enough, felt, living below the level and float the need for huge, but Paladino got no history engulfed the running medical services. The quotation banking for change will only an instrument for government all new and I really do worry for the whole future of the country's float right and yet is just noted.

When you have oppressive Islamic regimes like in Iran then you have an opportunity for ministry God opens doors and some of those dark places. What do you foresee might be some opportunities for you ministry wise, given the turmoil in Afghanistan. While we pray for those dear people who are trapped there and end the horrible situation there in we know the Lord can use that kind of situation to bring people to himself what what sorts of opportunities do you see perhaps coming out of this situation will look across from the grave of the Arab spring is Lem whenever he gets into a vision of power and people away from religion were all of them in our bill Islamic Republic.

Like any ram, bummer. I'm going to speculate about them establish their rule in the country but is going to be going a running away from a rejection will be flattened because of the being meted out the rituals in the name of his plan. The mobile to track people to Christ and the frustration is the hope and the unprecedented teaching about love about forgiveness, about turning the other cheek the ADM to fundamentalist Islamic regime mentality that prevailed Middle East of an eye on the stand out so much hatred of anger and killing where you got milk and killing all the Muslim built from the old belt for older this goal that will be for the group. All that considered to be a heretic and when they feed us going all Natalie look for something bring hope and have meaning and resonates with them when you would go and put me the picture and all around and radical and the frustration won't write, and I know you guys have aired a program use had some emergency prayer programming.

You August 17 program called prayer for Afghanistan. How are you encouraging believers to lift up those Christians in Afghanistan and those who don't yet know Jesus Christ were living in Afghanistan. How should we be praying for them right now. I think right the work of the house where we don't come but we broke off of them Internet provider. We make the gospel available to everybody online. I believe a human right that everyone should hear the gospel at least once in their own lifetime and are in their own language without foreign cultural baggage drugs to make the goal for vertebral credos should be the Holy Spirit takes these words Choose people at a time in their life when they are really searching and speaks to them, and God is speaking to individuals right across the street from provisions through dreams, affirming what they believe, through the broke off, leading them to cool out co-counseling centers get the kind of follow-up help to make that commitment to Christ lives but the Holy Spirit will work in individual lives as they travel coffee television programs with some of the mall. Specifically, the biochem for chemist on even the guns on the fan. Most of the dog. The payment of the brand commonality of the language dollar young 12 pray God will come to you to book an individual lives through his well you certainly do that. We've also heard about rescue efforts to get Christians out of the country know there have been reports here in the United States about some of those efforts. Is there anything you can tell us about what you've heard concerning the status of those attempted efforts.

I know it in some regard. If those are going on. We don't want to talk about it to openly obviously but is there any kind of mobilized rescue effort that you've been attuned into it or heard about or know anything about the individual who unusually it's not because they're Christian but foreign government been working with for no victim could be at risk, but to manipulate valves and combos from the families across the region lose low low strategy to remove them and one triumphantly with God.

This is a great opportunity for them to be the hands of fate the mouth of Christ in this difficult situation: so evacuation all Afghan color combos is not really my humble opinion that we would want to encourage and left.

They weren't buying drive and we were able to get them out of the country, which is a whole another story. Yeah, that's an interesting point because I've heard similar stories that even in the wake of the Syrian Civil War. For example, it doesn't necessarily mean that all the Syrian Christians don't want to, you know goat. That doesn't mean that they don't want to be in Syria. Ultimately, even if they are refugees for time that they want to go home and and new questions yeah exactly yeah (we have the same thing in the men Christian black pumps like Egypt, but we are really cool work, commitment to our own people, and this is a great opportunity and unproductive, and no consent decree closer gospel with just wonderfully proud to say and witness for Christ.

Yes yeah it's a situation, but it's also one of those situations also great options hold very good Terry Ascot from San Saba and dare to believe is his book, Terry.

Keep up the good work. Thank you so much for the update.

Thank you for being here. God bless you. You're listening to Janet this archived broadcast of Janet my for today is brought to you by a firm films show me the father, the creators of war room and courageous the Kendrick brothers explore fatherhood through five true stories show me the father. Rated PG parental guidance suggested in theaters September 10. Here's your host Joe, it's often noted that one of the most common objections to the existence of God is the problem of suffering in the world and for many of us that suffering comes in the form of a disability either hours, or one that has occurred in the life of somebody we love what are we to think about God's purposes in disabilities.

It's a really important question. Join me now.

As Paul touches, who is senior pastor of cornerstone Community Church in Mayfield Heights Ohio biblical counselor and writer and/or editor of more than 50 books today will be talking about his latest book to which Johnny Erickson. Todd also contributes.

It's called when disability hits home how God magnifies his grace in our weakness and suffering. Paul, great to have you here again, how are you all doing wonderful. Janet told you on your show will thank you for being here and you know I have to say this subject hits home for me. We have a son with a physical disability you have children I understand who have hearing impairment maybe to tell us a little bit about your family's experience with disability we walking it for about 30 years now in different ways, but the primary way is through hearing impairment and then one of our daughters.

In addition to her deafness. She was born almost a week she's also cognitively impaired and on the autism spectrum as well. So we have been walking this road for most of our married life and God is been teaching us and continues to teach us more and more about his grace and glory along the way. Yet what so many people comment on the fact that when you're thrown a loop like that it can really throw you off your game and sometimes ask questions about why Lord and we never really get a full answer.

Obviously on this earth as to why God would allow something to happen in the womb say whether it's Down syndrome or cerebral palsy or even something that occurred a disability that occurred from an accident.

What you see some of the challenges were for you. Just as a dad is a Christian is a pastor dealing with that issue in your own family because it's one thing to preach to other people about it and it's another thing to live it out. I would want one of the biggest challenges for me was that a husband minister to my white because she she began to blame herself. She began to realize okay there's a pattern here is a genetic pattern here is wrong with me that, especially when Katie came along she had multiple disabilities, she began to wonder Lord is my fault have I done something wrong. If I have been faithful enough and show not just you know accepting these as gifts from good wise sovereign God, but the feeling of inadequacy was huge for me and my adequate for this in my adequate to leave my wife and my kids in a way that honors God and glorifies him and that's an okay question drives us immediately, then back to the obvious answer which is no black in Christ. I am so I was driven to that person in the Corinthian's where pulses adequate for these things implied answer. Nobody is but Christ is our adequacy so I was sick for me that was probably the biggest issue that's a tough one. And the temptation. I think to blame somebody whether it's yourself or your spouse or is the doctor what have you can be very strong because you're trying to deal with something that's very, very emotionally hard, but something else. You mention which I think is very interesting. Is this temptation to remake God in our image. This is one of the temptations you mentioned that exist when you're coping with disability. What you talking about, they are the temptation to remake God in your image. Well we we don't like things that we cannot stand that we cannot control, and I think that we are often placed in situations where we are tempted to change our view of God to fit our circumstances, and other instead of saying okay now how do I need to interpret my circumstances in light, avoiding no about God, which then allows room for mystery. I think I think were were struggling this day and age with letting their remain a level of mastery and the Christian life and our understanding of God that that God does things for his own reason and I've often run back to Deuteronomy 2929 the secret things belong to the Lord our God. So there's some things that belong to the Lord our God, the things that he is revealed to us belong to us and to our children forever, so what. Once we start to realize that you know what there's been enough on my plate to think about in just the responsibilities that God is given me to walk faithfully with him.

I don't need to also try figure out the thing that our mystery because were called to walk by faith not by sight. So I think it is just the strong temptation instead of submitting our certain to the mysterious working of God's providence were tempted to then reshape God so he fit our circumstances so that we still feel like we're in control. That's a really good insight in and it was a great verse to say that the secret things belong to the Lord our God, you know what I thought it was first Corinthian's 1312 where it says for now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face.

Now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.

We are not meant to know everything, all the mysteries of God, nor will he tell us. I mean, the book of Job lays that out very plainly as well.


Nor do I think we could even handle right right he would revealed. I think it would would blow our circuit.

I agree it's better not to know what and you mention God's providence. When we talk about God's control over all things.

His providential hand. How do we explain disabilities without making the grays theological error of attributing evil to God or something sinful to God, which obviously is impossible.

Yeah, that's where you and I run back to Scripture, and I think of similar narrative portions of Scripture have been really really helpful. I spent a whole chapter on the life of Joseph because that the working of God's providence. People like Joseph helped me immensely and as husband and father also has to return very difficult times in in the ministry to realize that God is up to something good. No matter what man should matter. You know what we may bring on ourselves now or or whatever you know just living in a fallen world is brought is brought into our life. God is in the mystery of his Providence working all things together for good, and what we see in the life of Joseph is that his brothers meant to harm so Scripture doesn't ask you there. Guilt by in the end God all along was meaning for good. And then I think the thing that helped me the most was to see that throughout the life of Joseph interspersed through those 11 chapters that closed the book of Genesis we see this repeated phrase in the Lord was with Joseph and the Lord was with Joseph Jeff that reminder and I think that's what God wants us to remember. We don't have to understand everything we need to realize that he has promised to never leave us. Never forsake us. And somehow in the mystery of his amazing grace and providence, he bring good out of things that we we would never man that so well sad and and when you consider what the Bible has to say about sharing in the fellowship of sufferings of Christ. This is another angle. I want to get into, but we do need to pause for a short break. Paul touches with us when disability hits home is his book will come back to the discussion. After this on Janet effort today from a firm films comes with gender brothers show me the father room and courageous moviegoers on a cinematic journey that invite you to think differently about your earthly father and how you relate to God through five true stories really show you the father. Rated PG rental gardens in just your September 10. More information is available and show me the father when a young woman in crisis walks into a pre-born pregnancy center. She's on a journey in the ministry of pre-born is there to help her bring her journey to life Janie.

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I'm sure a lot of people listening right now who have experienced disability whether or not it's you who has the disability or somebody you love me be at your child.

Maybe it's your aging parent who had a stroke.

There are all kinds of things that can hit families and and friends as well. People you know very very well or suffering from something and you just don't understand it and you're trying to get your head around it and also be biblical while Paul touches is with us and just has a wonderful book out about it.

It's called when disability hits home how God magnifies his grace in our weakness and suffering you know it's interesting when you're talking about keeping your focus on the Lord through all of this Paul you say to remember, for example, that God is in the primary position, even if disability results from the harmful actions of others because there are some situations where the disability was someone else's fault. Maybe it was a car accident caused by a drunk drunk driver. You know when you're dealing with the aftereffects of a disabled son maybe who was injured in that car crash and it was somebody's fault. How do you help that person. Remember it is the fault of the person who was charged with drunken-driving for having hit your son but God is still in charge become a comfort. How does that actually work itself out in somebody's heart in a way that will touch them. How do you deal with someone in that position where again I go back to the Scriptures and I highlight the honesty of the Scriptures.

I think that's why we love the Scriptures so much that they don't paint a false picture of reality.

They show life as it really is.

And even in the life of Joseph at the end of his life when it's made clear that God was up to something really really amazed that would. He was gonna save the nation of Israel through Joseph leadership but it was Joseph suffering that was cool that were going to prorating Joseph to that position of leadership and the suffering was because by the sinfulness of his brother and so Scripture when it says that God has a glorious purpose and a glorious plan.

It does not then excuse the evil that that man is responsible for and that God in his own way on time will take care of because he is the God of justice. So that's why try and help people to see that okay God is the God of justice and he'll take care of that all responsibility is now to humbly respond in faith to the wonderful reality that in and through it all she was still in control in and through it all he was wanting to accomplish something for his glory for our good, that wasn't able to be accomplished any other way. And so that's that's I think a real comfort to people, especially if there is there disability was caused by sinfulness of another person like like you said a drunk driving accident tour. Perhaps even an abusive situation or something to know that God's justice will be satisfied and ultimately was satisfied across this one. One the Lord Jesus died for so and then even though for shins that have not been recognized and handed out this judgment will take care of someday and so we need to rest and in the reliable faithful character of God.

That's where I trying take people back to the character.well you have to and that's such an important reminder. It's so simple I almost feel dumb for reiterating it, but I need to hear it every single day which is that the Lord wants us to trust him. There's a reason that we are to walk by faith and not by sight. And yet we still want to know everything apart the heavens Lord and show me your entire plan and explain it to me that's never worked. It never will work and and it's funny that even if you've been a Christian for years you still keep making that mistake sometimes and wanting God to explain things that he has no intention of explaining right. And that makes it hard but and I think to believers we have to remember God big goal of remaking us into the image of Christ. And that means that that in order to really know Christ. As Paul says in Philippians 310 we need to share in the fellowship of the suffering and what that means that there there are some aspects to our sanctification that can only be accomplished through the fires of soccer and those fires in the different for each and every one of us comfort is that the same God of all comfort, who comforts us in our times of affliction is equipping us to be like Christ and then to minister to others. That's right, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the situation where you have someone who's disabled and how God uses that not just in the life of maybe the Christian who has the disability but in the lives of the people who are in intimate contact with that person. For example, you think of Ken Todd who has been caring for Johnny for all of these years faithfully or you think of families who take care of a loved one who had a stroke. For years, and is paralyzed or email this these sorts of circumstances can sanctify have a big sanctifying effect on Christians who are involved in the life of the person who's disabled. I'm wondering what your reflections are on that angle. Oh yeah, sure.

I mean just that every day of humility is confrontation.

I think it's a gentle confrontation of our pride will we will would be a servant of all, serve others, will love others more than ourselves and think it that the battle for every believer, but it is more in-your-face on a regular basis for people who live with people afflicted with disabilities and and so more and more. There's this you're faced with the reality of looking at yourself in the mirror and and having to say Lord I want to be a servant like Jesus was and and so slay my pride and do what you have to do to teach me to be the servant of all.

That's great you had cited in your book, call one of my very favorite passages from second Corinthians chapter 4 and I'm starting in verse eight. Although seven through 11 is the passage, but in verse eight everybody will know this passage we are afflicted in every way, but not crushed, perplexed, but not driven to despair persecuted, but not forsaken, struck down, but not destroyed.

Always caring in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies were being given over to death for Jesus's sake. So the life of Jesus, obviously, may be manifested in our mortal flesh. What you think the Lord is trying to tell us in that passage about his purposes and suffering.

Yeah, I think that what you're saying is that the gospel is manifested through the suffering believers. I think it's similar to what Paul says in Colossians 1, where he says that his suffering was leading to know more impact for the gospel so as we are driven as we are beaten down through our sufferings we are our sufferings draw attention to the sufferings of Christ, but they don't, it doesn't stop there.

The sufferings of Christ, then naturally lead us to victory resurrection victory in Christ. And so it is a prime opportunity for gospel proclamation.

Stern and and that's how God uses us as those vessels of clay where we are with the glory of Christ is being manifested through our week you wish still alive today use Ralph to new life and the world needs to see that while that's such a great point and it goes along with the other thing that you said about weakness is a platform for greater grace. Boys had true in our weakness he is strong and it's one thing to read that on little card in the morning during your devotional is another thing to live it out all day long, but it does change you.

It's just not necessarily evidence. Today we are having a tough day dealing with a disability but 10 years from now you can reflect back and say boy.

The Lord worked in such incredible ways through this terrible suffering that my left one went through and I went through that. We just have to trust the Lord.

II really have to commend to people your book Paul. It's called when disability hits home how God magnifies his grace in our weakness and suffering such a needed tool for people who are in the circumstances. Paul touches with us and always good to talk to Paul, thank you so much for your book and for being with us again just wonderful to have you here know. Always a joy now.

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