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We owe our freedoms to the men who fought the American Revolution and who drafted and signed the Declaration of Independence. But the real American Revolution, as John Adams called it, was the moral one preceding our founding. Janet will discuss it with C. Bradley Thompson, professor of political philosophy at Clemson University and the executive director of the Clemson Institute for the Study of Capitalism. His book is called, "America's Revolutionary Mind: A Moral History of the American Revolution and the Declaration That Defined It." That and more on Monday's JANET MEFFERD TODAY

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This archived broadcast of Janet Mefford today is brought to you by Provident films and affirm films movie overcome are coming to the small screen in time for Christmas overcome are available December 17 on digital Blu-ray and DVD is Janet Mefford today. Our confidence is in Christ alone, I soy is said let us therefore animate and encourage a man contending for liberty on his own ground is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth what we owe our freedoms today to the men who fought the American Revolution and who drafted and signed the Declaration of Independence but is my next guest points out the real American Revolution is John Adams called it was the moral revolution that occurred in the minds of the people in the years leading up to 1776 so we will be discussing this today with C. Bradley Thompson, Prof. of political philosophy at Clemson University and Executive Director of the Clemson Institute for the study of capitalism's book is called America's revolutionary mind so that he had with us. Prof. Thompson how are you doing thank you so much you quote Thomas Paine as saying that our new government was founded on a moral theory. This indefeasible hereditary rights of man. Why is that such an important thing to understand is where looking back at the American Revolution in the declaration important to treat Jefferson and John Adams of America's founding fathers had a view of natural rights. Rights that were absolute certain permanent and universal. They did not think like many college doctors do today that rights are given to us by government or that right people over time.

The founding fathers believed that our rights are grounded in a permanent and universal nature, and that I which means then by application right of the right for infants to liberty, or property is something that have to be protected and promoted at all costs yes exactly rights and natural rights. We hear this, we all heard this reference when we went to history class in high school and summer. Hopefully we did and we all know about this, but I wonder how many Americans today really can talk about natural rights and natural law in the way that the founders understood at a Kenya school is a little bit on that natural law natural rights. What was the essence of those concepts like why do you for America's revolutionary fathers unlike their fellow Briton with whom they were contending in the 1760s.

In 1770, the Americans did not think that whites were grounded in history so there there British interlocutors friend believed in something called the rights of Englishmen, and that those rights are contingent on particular places in this case England in a particular time. In this case, the 18th-century, America's founding fathers realized that that was a shaky foundation on which to ground a pay per minute free society so during the 1760s. In 1770 during the so-called years of the Imperial crisis. They went in search of a more permanent absolute foundation for the right one that would not evolve over time, and they found that permanent foundation in the idea of nature, so they were students, all of America's founding fathers were students. For instance, of Sir Isaac Newton of the great 17th century English mathematician and and scientist and Newton of course had discovered the so-called scientific court. Natural laws of nature and so America's founding fathers took this notion of laws of nature that are absolute permanent, universal, and went in search of moral laws of nature and date and and moral rights of nature and they did this by examining nature by which they met human nature. So America's founding fathers were, if nothing else, great student of human nature, and they believed certain basic concepts, but for instance, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So they took out of the fundamental condition of human nature. On the flip side however they also understood that the primary qualities of human nature or reason and free will and that in order for individuals to be free. You have to be able to liberate the mind of deliberate human reason and you have to restrict the powers of government from preventing them from using their reason and and they did this they discovered the laws of human nature by by dextrose Becton by looking out into the world by observing human beings in the way they act, and the passions that move them, but they also introspective.

They turned in on themselves. John Adams, for instance, in his diary. The fascinating read. He examines his own nature, and he examines the passions which drive him and then finally they were all students of history and they examine how and why certain individual sought power and how and why certain individuals sought freedom and from this examination of human nature and history. They then introduced certain moral laws and rights of nature's right so this leads you to conclude that the declaration was the existential embodiments of the highest ideals of the Enlightenment so you're talking about things like nature reason rights constitutionalism which you put Newton above somebody like John Locke in terms of having that kind of influence or would you because many times you'll hear about John Locke is really being the main person that had a huge influence on the founders. How do you see it I will.

I think they were both cocoa John Adams and Thomas Jefferson said that both Newton and Locke were the greatest minds of their own time and you can send you see evidence. I think of both Newton and Locke in the Declaration of Independence. So when the declaration in the first paragraph rinses speaks of the laws of nature and of nature's God.

This is in fact is this is new, that he's thinking of what he talks about the laws of nature and of nature's God and then the more famous second paragraph that you know that begins we hold these truths to be self-evident and then he lays out for self-evident truth before self-evident truth of the Declaration of Independence are, in effect, a précis of locks political principles in the second treatise of government. Yes, it's so interesting because when you look to the Declaration of Independence, and I want to talk a little bit more detail about this fortress you just mentioned, but what gave the founders the confidence in what was self-evident because you'll find people today who will argue because they don't believe in the laws of nature and nature's God anymore that these things are not self-evident and we can do things a different way we can just declare things are rights we can talk about the rights government dispenses, we don't have to have any reference to God whatsoever. What was it that gave them that confidence that these truths really were self-evident.

I think they believe that those truths were grounded in an objective reality. Like so the idea of truth print what I mean and it's interesting we live today.

It is said by the New York Times and by the Oxford English the Canary that we live in a post-truth society.

This would mean there's probably no concept of the modern world that would've been more foreign to America's founding fathers in this idea of a post-truth society they believed in P truth and P truth for America's founding fathers meant that there was a relationship between certain moral or political ideas, concepts, propositions and objective reality the world out there.

As we experience it, and so with regard to the major principles of the revolution of the Declaration of Independence, they went America's founding fathers with a great distance in trying to validate and demonstrate those principles not as mere opinions, but as the truth. Yes, so significant when you're making that observation about this post, truth, society we hear about how can that even be a true statement to four and a post-truth society. It's it's gibberish gibberish and of course the irony is for those who hold a position they hold it as a proof of course right now is inherently contradictory. Of course it is yeah and and that's is why I think is so disconcerting for a lot of Americans who do understand the brilliance of our founders and setting up our nation and the Declaration of Independence as it was to look around us and to see the nonsense that is being spewed from so many sectors of society that is undermining what is the nonsense that is being spewed from so many sectors of society that is undermining what is absolute reality and laid out in the Declaration of Independence and I want to go to that into more detail when we come back were going to talk about its America's revolutionary mind is the name of the book Prof. C. Bradley Thompson with us and will return on chain of effort today right after. Are you among the millions of Americans who feel uncertain when it comes to their healthcare right now is the only time of year you can do anything about it. So make the switch to liberty help Sharon as a healthcare sharing ministry liberty. Healthcare is not insurance you can pick your program choose your own doctors and hospitals and choose when you sign up. They have programs for singles, couples and families, small with no contracts starting at only $199 per month go to liberty that's liberty films and different films comes over, coming to you right in time for Christmas. When you find the one I was afraid I was skiing.

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That's 855-402-2229 or there's a you're listening for today. It's good to have you with us were talking about America's revolutionary mind the new book from the Bradley Thompson Prof. of political philosophy at Clemson University and the Executive Director of the Clemson Institute for the study of capitalism were talking a lot about the moral revolution that preceded the American Revolution and the Declaration of Independence. And what of that professor Thompson when you're talking about the moral revolution that really proceeded in 1776. What we need to know on that score. The most important thing to know is can be summed up in a concept that was frequently used by American revolutionaries. It's the concept of the American spirit of liberty.

They spoke of the spirit of liberty in all of their writing and that means that it speaks to the moral constitution of American revolutionaries. They had a certain spirited and that's spirited that was based on the one hand on certain ideas of liberty, particularly this idea of individual natural rights and then secondly it was it was more than just an abstract idea.

They also believed that to live the American spirit of liberty you you had to jealously guard your freedom and your liberty at all times. All costs so maybe think about what the American Revolution was really all about and what triggered family to stamp out the stamp act was for the most part, a relatively small Didn't impose great burden certainly relative the kind of taxes. Americans paid today and yet the moment it was past the American immediately were triggered by and they they reacted very strongly because they believed that if if you if you give the government an inch. It will take a yard if you give it a yard will take a mile and therefore you must always, at all costs. You must defend your freedom because they understood the power never sleeps.

Power is like a cancer, always growing and therefore free people must always be on guard to protect their freedom rights should we use them today.

I you know this is interesting when you go to these four self-evident truths outlined in the Declaration of Independence, you say they can be reduced to the words equality rights consent and revolution someone were looking at this concept that all men are created equal. We just take that for granted but how revolutionary was that to just say it that way and is stated in such a confident manner which you know is based in objective reality revolutionary in the content of which was written in the country, the world everywhere but let's take the world from which they had, namely old Europe old Europe was a place of inequality of hierarchy where the social situation into which you were born with the social social situation in which you are going to die. The same was true of your father, your son and your grandson so the eye.

This notion and also these inequalities. Of course, were created by and forced by government. The announcement, however, that all men are created equal.

Turned that whole world upside down on its head and this idea of equality is self-evident, but it's actually quite complicated when we look out into the world when we observe the people in the world around us is a sense in which we see inequality right yes we see all short, fast, slow, strong week, intelligent, not so intelligent, etc. etc. so the question is, what sense that they mean all men are created equal. While I think what they meant was that all individuals have the reason enough reason to be self-governing. That is the say they are equal in their rights to be fully self-governing. That's what equality quality.

Didn't mean for instance the redistribution of wealth rights will be met all individuals are and should be free yes rights exactly those rights those unalienable rights are given to us by our Creator and then this is the second self-evident truth that among these unalienable rights are life, liberty, and The Pursuit of Happyness why those three and not more. I mean, why not outline. We have a right to private property. Those sorts of things right so in every bill like that was composed during the Revolutionary era. They did include property declaration of the only document that era did that does not include property as a natural right now. The fact the matter, however, is that Thomas Jefferson throughout his life in in his in his book voluminous writings does include property as a natural right so either he was omitting it for for stylistic reasons and replaced it with this idea of The Pursuit of Happyness and and what's interesting is that the pursuit of happiness. Unlike property does not appear in virtually any other state, revolutionary Bill of Rights, so it's not entirely clear to us why he left property out.

It is possible for instance, that he was concerned about the role of slavery was one of the great one at one of the great omissions from the declaration, which was actually taking Jefferson included but was later taken out by the Continental Congress was Jefferson condemnation of slavery and the slave trade in the in his original draft of the Declaration of Independence, so it is possible that in mid maybe even likely that he did not include property because of its complications relative to the issue of slavery. That's interesting when you talking about The Pursuit of Happyness you point out The Pursuit of Happyness was not seen as a right to happiness or the government should define happiness for you. Just the pursuit was there and I wonder how many Americans sometimes need to go back and reread that while I'm supposed to be happy I'm entitled to happiness.

That's not really what the founders were saying and all would correct you should be on the word pursuit and for fathers that would intimate relationship between moral virtue and happiness. Yes they were. They were inseparable to be happy.

One had to what had to invoke and live live out certain moral virtues and this is the difference for Jefferson between what he called real or true happiness and full fabulous right girl kind of thing that make us temporarily in the moment happy right but but true happiness is a is a long term satisfaction that comes with accomplishing one's highest values and principles in life and that is played by moral virtue so virtue is the mechanism by which we achieve happiness that's exactly right. Yeah that's important points. The third one obviously talks about state governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That's a really important point about jumping ahead to the fourth line there is there this reference which I don't always talked about really in the last few years, more often than I've seen it talked about my whole life but it talks about the right of the people. When the form of government becomes destructive of the ends. The people have the right to alter or abolish it, and institute a new government did they have any view, any idea that there might come a specific time in specific circumstances when another Revolutionary war would need to be fought by me, or was it just kind of a theoretical if you guys down the road encounter what we encountered. You have the right to fight for yourselves what was the mindset in putting this into print with the latter so I think it was a general theoretical principle that whenever it says the word or whenever any form of government so they understood that there may be times in American history, going forward, given their own view of human nature, right, which have the power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Stay new men were not angels. They knew going forward. That power would be abused because of human nature and so there's a certain sense in which the right to revolution is actually a conservative principal because if it if it's known by all the citizens and the governing class that the people retain this right to revolution to alter or abolish the government when the government becomes tyrannical that provides an incentive, a motive for the government not to become tyrannical. That's right but it's it's very disturbing because you see a lot of the upheaval in our country right now and and there's wings going on in the last few years that are very troubling to a lot of Americans and and that is coming up more often will there come a time when we would actually need to fight for our country. People remember the Civil War and say we would never want to have a civil war again, but do you first see that there could be a time where Americans would actually have to consider that option.

I mean, it seems unthinkable, but on the other hand, a lot of people worry about it. Well it is true.

A lot of people do worry about it and I that I have seen more articles in the last year about the quote unquote coming Civil War in America that I've ever seen in my entire lifetime.

In fact, I've never seen any any articles with titles like that.

The sad truth is that America really is becoming divided and the division is not like the kind of division that took place during antebellum America in the 1850s, leading to a Civil War is a very different kind of division and it's not racial division, class division, it's an ideological division.


And the sad truth of the matter is that there is the United States have a kind of ruling elite that genuinely hate what United States the principles on which was founded stand for what they are the opponents of the Declaration of Independence where the most ordinary, everyday Americans generally love the principles of the declaration and that absolutely the case for the millions of people around the world who want to come to this country.

I agree such good luck. America's revolutionary my thank you so much Prof. C. Bradley Thompson this archived broadcast of Janet met for today is brought to you by Provident films and affirm films movie overcome or coming to the small screen in time for Christmas overcome are available December 17 on digital Blu-ray and DVD you're listening to Janice Mefford today and here's just a boy would have to talk about Chick-fil-A archway. Yes, we are having to talk about Chick-fil-A. This is just such a mind twist to me because I recall being on the radio back when Dan Cathy that had of Chick-fil-A initially made those comments supporting man woman marriage which used to be completely noncontroversial, but it was just the beginning of this huge culture war and liberals and pro-LGBT activists just descended upon Chick-fil-A Christians rush to Chick-fil-A's defense, especially those who frequent Chick-fil-A Christians really rally to the side of Chick-fil-A to support them to stand with them and it was, not just because they liked the restaurants.

It was a cultural moment in which Christians could rally around somebody somebody who is standing firm on common sense and I think people really were looking for that moment. And that's part of what I think of a lot of people to do it.

I recall going to the Chick-fil-A appreciation day on the day that the gay activists were supposed to storm Chick-fil-A and it was awesome actually was the whole restaurant was filled with Christians in Chicago in the suburbs of Chicago because that's where I was at the on that day, but now were having to do all total 180 on Chick-fil-A so you know I talked recently about the issue of Chick-fil-A changing its donations and now Chick-fil-A will not be giving any more to groups like the Salvation Army in the Fellowship of Christian athletes and we detailed earlier how this is been going on for quite a while.

In fact, they have been peeling away. They don't want to fight the culture war. They don't want to lose any business you and Dan Cathy working with an alderman in Chicago when they wanted to get that first franchise in the city of Chicago and I knew right away having come from there that there's no way you're going to get into Chicago unless you do what they tell you. And so one of the things that came out of that initial meeting was that they would no longer donate to anti-gay groups, so I knew the writing was on the wall right then and there, but now it gets even worse, it gets even worse after this news that they would no longer be giving to the Fellowship of Christian athletes in the Salvation Army, you know, the Salvation Army, I don't think even could be called anti-gay because they have a whole page on how they welcome LGBT people into their shelters and so forth.

So I that that gets all twisted but now we find out that Chick-fil-A gave a donation to the Southern poverty Law Center and I know is we were all eating turkey and enjoying our Thanksgiving dinners with our families and resting and relaxing a little bit.

This news comes down the pike Southern poverty Law Center. Are you kidding me. There is no more anti-Christian group that I can name off the top of my head than the Southern poverty Law Center.

They are continually working to destroy Christian groups. It was their hate map on their website that led to homosexual domestic terrorist Floyd Lee. Cork ends to go to the family research Council in 2012 with the intent to commit mass murder for which he was convicted of domestic terrorism.

He was inspired by the Southern poverty Law Center and now we find out that Chick-fil-A gave a donation to the Southern poverty Law Center and we don't even know if they have now about whether or not yet they'll never give to him again. This is the story from Breitbart. They were really attempting to quell some blowback from conservatives over this previous donation to the SPLC. They point out that the restaurant giants 2017 990 IRS filing states. It not only gave a $2500 donation to the Southern poverty Law Center, but also to various pro-abortion and pro-LGBT rights groups terrific.

So all this time we were supporting Chick-fil-A. They were stabbing us in the back in a statement to the daily caller news foundation Chick-fil-A conceded that it made the donation to the left wing extremist organization, but pointed to Christian groups that it also gave to including the Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian athletes. Oh, okay. So if you give a donation to the SPLC that you give a donation to the Fellowship of Christian athletes that cancels out your donation to one of the most avirulent anti-Christian hate groups on earth really that's not how it works Chick-fil-A. The statement does not say whether the company will halt any future SPLC donations as it infamously announced regarding the Christian organizations after disingenuous pressure campaign from far left activists press representative for Chick-fil-A said the SPLC donation was made by a volunteer member of the Chick-fil-A foundation advisory board. Each volunteer advisor in 2017 was offered the opportunity to recommend a grant recipients. The grants were given to a range of organizations including Meals on Wheels, Atlanta, mission, etc. etc. so it's you guys Tony did to the SPLC. The spokesperson then cited Chick-fil-A founder Truett Cathy whose Christian values quote still guide the business today. Unquote, do they now while it would seem to me if you were still using those Christian values to guide your business today, you wouldn't have so many Christians up in arms for feeling stabbed in the back. He famously said probably the greatest gift that God has given anyone of us is the power that we have, to change people's lives by what we do the best run company is the company that is forever thinking about others like Floyd Lee. Cork ends really is in this spirit that all donations are made on believable. However, the statement offers no detail on what positive service the SPLC provides for everyday people.

The partisan organization has amassed roughly $500 million in assets. There is activism with millions stashed in offshore accounts and they really need more cash Chick-fil-A that was a great move. Sen. Tom cotton of Arkansas.

I wrote the IRS last year asking for a review of the SPLC's 501(c)(3) nonprofit status, arguing the SPLC's defining characteristic is to fund raise off defamation boys that right exactly what the SPLC does that defamation includes lumping and mainstream conservative groups with neo-Nazis, labeling them hate groups for holding the Christian values.

Chick-fil-A touts and then they cite the whole situation at the family research Council back in 2012 and we already mention that now.

What are some of the other groups that they're giving to Ryan Bamberger from the Radiance foundation fills this, and over the Christian post for those defending Chick-fil-A and pretending we have not witnessed their progression of capitulation. He says the Salvation Army sees it for what it is stating in a press release were saddened to learn that a corporate partner has felt it necessary to divert funding to other hunger, education, and homelessness organizations. The Salvation Army does all three on a massive scale, but they don't espouse an LGBT ideology has their mission drifted to the left.

Well, out with organizations that do not espouse a pro-homosexuality, ideology, and in with those who do like covenant House.

Don't let the Catholic Association for you though, he says, come and house a homeless shelter for youth takes pride in its promotion of all things LGBT Q, they even marched in the New York Gay pride parade to show their inclusivity CRED guess the Salvation Army, which admittedly has an issue with partially supporting abortion in cases of rape, incest and health of the mother should have flown some co-opted rainbow colors to keep their hundreds of thousands in funding. Whoops, it looks like covenant is the new salvation S Chick-fil-A finds the deeply political YWCA as well a radically pro-abortion and pro-LGBT Q organization that repeatedly partners with Planned Parenthood teaching.

So it isn't just the SPLC. They also fund the YWCA used to think the YWCA was conservative, didn't you, and even Christian. That was long time ago now.

Chick-fil-A also finds the DC-based new leadership Council which identifies as a hub of progressive millennial thought leadership, which exists to support one another along their individual path to a more progressive political and cultural landscape. Chick-fil-A has given a sizable donation as well. $50,000 to the pay center for girls yet another pro-abortion organization. The education and advocacy group will feature radical pro-abortion feminist Gloria Steinem the I had an abortion activist who declared that birthing children is the fundamental cause of climate change and she will be the keynote speaker for the upcoming girls summit.

How sweet or how about Usher's new look R&B star Usher Raymond the fourth's liberal nonprofit groups disrupt what is called disruptive fire summits. I guess it's called something like that is all about progressive community organizing on pivotal social issues and Chick-fil-A finds it $38,700 in 2017.

Oh, they also give tens of thousands to Chris 180. This is $27,000 in 2017, 25,020 19, which is a pro-LGBT behavioral health and child welfare service agency, terrific, and the organization boasts of being awarded the leader in supporting and serving LGBT families and youth from the human rights campaign foundation.

You guys know who they are terrific. That's great Chick-fil-A well I hope that the LGBT activists nationwide will keep you afloat and they will continue to make everything right as you have a little rat dangling over your face like the end of 1984. He finally loved big brother. Or maybe, just maybe they'll wake up and realized there in the process of destroying everything that you're a Kathy spent so many years trying to build its disgraceful to come back status mother's womb has now become the un-Safest Pl. in America with abortion being a leading cause of death and babies being aborted up to term. In some states I was afraid I was skiing. I know what to do. Everybody have a question. Pre-born is the largest provider of free ultrasounds in the country, helping moms choose life. You see, when a mom in crisis sees her baby on ultrasound and here's the heartbeat she's 80% more likely to choose life for her baby and I was like wow, something inside of me is a beautiful thing he would you join with pre-born and Janet met for today and help save 400 babies by the end of this year for $140 you can sponsor five ultrasounds and now through match your tax-deductible gift is doubled saving 10 babies lives to donate, dial 855402 Beatty that's 855-402-2229 where there's a banner to click Janet met films and films comes over, coming to you right in time for Christmas. When you find the one are you among the millions of Americans who feel uncertain when it comes to their healthcare right now is the only time of year you can do anything about it. So make the switch to liberty help share as a healthcare sharing ministry liberty. Healthcare is not insurance you can pick your program choose your own doctors and hospitals and choose when you sign up.

They have programs for singles, couples and families all with no contracts starting at only $199 per month go to liberty help that's liberty today and here's your host Joe welcome back great to have you with us again this hour, Janet met for today is brought to you by Provident films and affirm films movie overcome are coming to the small screen in time for Christmas overcome are available December 17 on digital Blu-ray and DVD. All right, I am talking about some cultural war issues. In particular I was opining a bit on Chick-fil-A's 180 met my head is spinning. I think a lot of Christians in this country simply are finding themselves flabbergasted by the betrayal by the knife in the back at two Chick-fil-A Hootie and here's what's interesting to me. You have a lot of these liberal activists who are out there on social media trying to say. Well, you Christian shouldn't put your faith in corporate America think Christians ever did put their faith in corporate America.

That's not what it was about. For some people it was simply that they liked going to a restaurant that closed on Sundays was going against the cultural norms trying to be a Christian company trying to be pro family had a head who is all for marriage and was not afraid to say so until he was and it was about having somebody to rally around at up a time when the pro-LGBT radical male sexual activists are just taking everybody into their cobweb and their very very few people who are brave enough to stand up to them and I think Christians really appreciated the Chick-fil-A to whatever degree was willing to say now were not to back away from the believing in marriage, but in fact all they've done is back away so you know I'm not for vindictiveness in any way shape or form but I think what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

And if you were willing to stand up for marriage and take your lumps then you need to be willing to take your lumps when you support sexual radicals and pro-abortion organizations cell it goes both ways and it doesn't have anything to do with putting your faith and trust in a company.

It has to do with Christians really dying to support somebody who has a spine in corporate America and I think this would be a lovely time for somebody else to fill that gap casino at D's. These activist can be pushed back. That's what I think very few Christians really understand they can be pushed back. It's like the bully in the schoolyard.

I know it's kind of a timeworn cliché, but it really is the same principle.

If you are out in the schoolyard and there is a bully and is pushing all the kids and stealing the milk money and all the rest.

Lots of kids will be too intimidated to stand up to the bully but if you go up to the bully of not going up to the bully initially. But if the bully comes to you shoves you to the ground, steals your lunch money kicks you physically assault you and at some point you say I'm not can it take it. I'm not to put up with this. I don't have to be physically assaulted by this crazy person and maybe you get a shot back. Maybe you hit the kid in the face. I'm not advocating violence but we know how it is when you're in the schoolyard and you have to stand up for yourself and there is something about standing up for yourself that sometimes will make the bully walk away you know easy you know the victim here are not to be able to really pick on you the way I could pick on that guy over there who want fight back. There is a really fundamental human principle at work and it's just interesting to see how it's all gone down so will keep you posted on that right on to other things. This is an interesting story as well and it's actually two stories. If I can get these and very carefully and very quickly. There is a story out of Lancaster New York Christian news network reported on this initially and it has to do with this little girl who wanted to wrestle. She wanted to be on the wrestling team and it ended up in a really really bad way. I don't want to ruin the story but let's go to this report from W KBW cut one €12 with the blaze from Lancaster dream to wrestle even when eagle, the highest award in a national competition on the boys and girls despite competitively wrestling with boys her entire life. Lancaster high school doctor refuses to give her approval. She can't even wrestle modified this is not fair just because she is a girl and this is the only expedition I can come up with. She was ablation be on the team already worked out that you state-mandated testing would allow her to be on the JV team line determine somebody's maturity and the other is a series of physical tasks like push-ups and pull-ups by the school doctor said no and asked him for an explanation and give me one. I'm sorry but is this not common sense why you shouldn't have little girls in spandex wrestling boys in spandex, is this really that hard for people to figure out.

Not everything is about anything boys can do. Girls can do better. I'm sure this girl is a fine wrestler but I think were missing the bigger picture.

Here's the rest of the report. Cut to mom. Danielle said the boy interested grade class also passed both tests now.

She has to go to this panel of the school doctor just as primary and a gym teacher. The gym teacher in school doctor still said no and their excuse on this piece of paper. I picked up today was muscle mass used when my sister 12 years idolatrous is in the exact same situation. Her wide over a decade ago dealing with the same school doctor at Lancaster high school the whole reason. Tristan even started wrestling: five ended up on the boys wrestling team by appealing the school doctors decision. It took a year that's like Tristan and her mom both hope it doesn't come to that and allocate fighting fire on the team. That's all she wants is to be on the wrestling team will. Here's the update.

The school board has now voted to terminate the contract of that district pediatrician for declining to clear her to join the boys wrestling team, so here's a situation where you have presumably a feminist mother and a little girl who's following suit girl should be able to do anything and everything the boys do, even in competitive sports, fine.

You can believe that the doctor gets fired for saying no girls shouldn't be wrestling boys and that's where we are now on the other end of the spectrum. This is the opposite.

Let's talk about a school district in Downey, California.

The profamily group. Mass resistance is out with the story, talking about how they stormed the local school board there over a really disgusting radicals sexual education curriculum.

It's kind of the same as what we've been talking about in Austin and it's popping up all over the place, but this is called the teen talk curriculum they have. For example, a collection of radical LGBT and pro-abortion groups as resources for instructors and students and places where children can confidentially get birth control and abortions they have propaganda under a values clarification section of the curriculum to change children sense of right and wrong and to indoctrinate them in the sexual radicals value system. There is also a compendium of radical LGBT propaganda that is being drilled into students as fact under the heading of gender and sexual identity but in fact it is unscientific and psychologically destructive. We can presume that's the transgender nonsense then you have under sexuality, graphic and reckless sexual depictions and discussions that could likely severely warp a child sexual and emotional development. So one of the mass resistance organizers Arthur shopper spoke in front of the school board. I want to listen to a little bit of this. This is Three on every single one is already on this is all you you you you is is will you are all is you is is research is is is is is is is is now why did those two stories can go back to back well in one case the parents rule and get the doctor fired when they don't like where the doctor stands on the gender issue and in the case of Downey, California.

The school board can out outwardly just completely ignore the parents give all these parents. This is apparently a mainly Hispanic district, but conservative and these parents are rising up in their same. Why did you put this Planned Parenthood sex curriculum in the schools and you didn't even solicit our input. You didn't even solicit any of our you know any of our ideas or anything you don't care anything about the parents. So in one case the parents rule completely as long as the agenda is feminist and liberal but in the other case if you have concerns parents and their conservative then you completely ignored. Is that how it works in public education in the United States.

Now, apparently, so at least in some locations, but I think the warning here is for all parents to stay informed and stay involved in your child's life and I'm not just talking about whether or not your child is in a public school, but also of these days. Even if your child is in a private school or Christian school. You just can't take it for granted anymore that where you send your child to school is going to be just fine. Based on some sorts of assumptions you might've had in the past. You have to be vigilant and pray for your children. It's never been more important. We gotta leave it there. Thank you a lot for being with us here on Jana Mefford today.

Always a pleasure to be with you. God bless you and we will see you next time

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