A Father to 10,000

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Sit back, enjoy it, share it. But most of all, thank you for listening and choosing the Truth Podcast Network. This is the Truth Network. Some have one child, some have 10. I have a friend that has 14 children. I played golf the other day with one who has 12 siblings raised by a single mom.

But what about 10,000, over 10,000 children? Wait, what? Not possible Nikita. Wait till you hear today's story. Now, The Devil's Nightmare. Welcome back to another episode of It's Time to Man Up. I have a special guest, just recently met my guest at the NRB, the National Religious Broadcasting Convention in Nashville, Tennessee.

It's really kind of the Super Bowl of broadcasting when it comes to the Christian world. But Milton Wallace, welcome to the Man Up show. Milton Wallace Oh, I'm so glad to be here this morning. Thank you for inviting me. Dr. Darrell Bock Well, I am grateful for you for many reasons. We're going to jump into some of your story here and let folks know who you are and what you're doing and that you and I are going to have, it appears to be a long-term friendship here and relationship based on that meeting in Nashville. But we'll get into that in a moment. But for our listeners out there, Milton, like where are you based out of?

Let's just start with that. Milton Wallace Okay, I am located in a small town in East Texas called Chandler, Texas. It's right outside of Tyler, Texas. Dr. Darrell Bock Right, right outside of Tyler. And now why have I heard of Tyler, Texas?

Is there a university there or? Milton Wallace Well, there's a few universities, the University of Texas and the Texas College, those are two, and a junior college called Tyler Junior College. But most people know Tyler now because of Earl Campbell and the Tyler Rose.

That's generally how they know about Tyler. Dr. Darrell Bock Earl Campbell, there's a name for the past for all you football fans out there. Man, what a beast he was back in his day.

I think he had some of the biggest thighs I think on the planet in his time, but oh my gosh, what a running back. And I am familiar with the, you said the junior college, right? Milton Wallace Yeah, Tyler Junior College. Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah, because I played a little jukeball back in my day.

Some do know that, some don't know that. And I remember, I seem to remember them being in the national junior college football polls. Because man, obviously, football in Texas is pretty big, right?

Milton Wallace Yes, it is. Yeah, Tyler Junior College and Henderson County Junior College, which we're in between those two locations, they usually have pretty good football teams. A lot of those kids go on from there to the major colleges.

Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah, play four-year. And of course, high school football, I mean, I was blown away by some of the high school football stadiums I saw, Milton. I mean, 10,000 seater stadiums and even bigger. And I'm like, wow, when they say everything's bigger in Texas, they aren't kidding. Milton Wallace Well, yeah, football is king here in Texas, and it is one of the main, you want to get people out and get them together.

Football is the drawing card. Dr. Darrell Bock That's pretty amazing. Now, Milton, were you born and raised in Texas, or you're just living in Texas? Milton Wallace No, I was born and raised here in Chandler.

My mother was a school teacher, and my father worked for Curtis Mathis, where they made the televisions. My mother was a teacher, and I actually went to school in Terrell, Texas, which is about 50 miles from here. But that's the home of Jamie Foxx.

People know it as the home of Jamie Foxx. And so I went to school there. But yeah, this is where I was born and raised in this area. Dr. Darrell Bock So have you lived there your whole life then? Milton Wallace Well, yeah, pretty much.

I mean, I was around working other places with my, as an administrator, my job that I had. But basically, I've been in Texas, the Northeast Texas, all my life. Dr. Darrell Bock Wow, born and raised.

That's pretty amazing. And siblings? Milton Wallace No siblings at all. I'm an only child. A lot of people say, Well, we know you were spoiled.

No, not with my father. He believed in work. No, no, there was no time to be spoiled. You had to work every day. And he expected to work as hard as he did. So you know, there was no time to lay around and just have a good time now. Dr. Darrell Bock So he instilled in you, what I'm hearing is, he instilled in you a real work ethic.

Milton Wallace Most definitely. And I really appreciate that now. You know, back then I didn't understand it and was always upset because we were always doing something. But you know, as I've gone through life and had my experiences, it has really paid off in the long run.

You're listening to the Truth Network and Truthnetwork.com. There is something to say about laying that foundation for those parents who have done that very thing. You might say, you know, hand a silver platter to their children, but actually made them. I used to say this, Milton, you can probably relate to this, I would imagine. Like, my children would come to me and, you know, with their handout, you know, want $20 or something, I would say, Well, there's money in the vault, but you hold your hand out doesn't open the vault. And they're like, Well, like, what do you mean, Dad?

Like, and it took a while for them to first grab hold of this concept. I go, Well, I go, always remember this. You'll learn more by what you earn than by what you're given. Milton Wallace That's true. Milton Wallace You'll learn more by what you earn than what you're given. Now, that's not to say I didn't give my children things. I did.

Don't don't don't misunderstand what I'm saying out there in Listening Land. But I, like your dad, wanted to teach my children the work ethic, to work and earn a living and earn what you acquire and achieve. And so they would go, Okay, so how can I earn $20? And I'm like, Well, you know, the grass needs cutting, or this needs done, or I would have something, even if I had to just come up with say, Hey, stuff these envelopes with this brochure, right? Something that would imprint in their mind, I had to earn this $20.

It wasn't just handed to me. And I say all that to say, you know, like, you might catch on, this is my proud dad moment here. But you might catch on that all four of my girls have a real work ethic. Now they have good husbands that provide as well.

But not one of them have been afraid to go out and work and earn a living and support and take care of their families. And so that's great. Yeah, I'm grateful.

I'm grateful. So Milton, what about yourself? So children or tell us, you know, your family? Well, I have no children. Okay. My wife and I, we had three miscarriages.

He had three miscarriages. And at that point, we just decided it wasn't, you know, going to be and we didn't want to continue to put ourselves through that. Yeah.

So at that point, we just said, Okay, we give up on this part, at least, and just keep moving in life. Well, that was the deal with that. I understand. Well, and and I had experienced some of those as well.

And I like to, I like to say it this way there. I'm, I envision just bear with me here. But I envision and for those out there listening, maybe you've, you know, suffered through some miscarriages of your own. But, you know, I'm reminded Milton of the scripture that, you know, several scriptures come to mind, you know, Psalm 139, where God said, I knew you before you were ever even formed or fashioned in your mother's womb. And so I just envisioned for you, myself and others who've experienced miscarriage, that there'll come a day because God, you know, in his sovereignty, for whatever reason, they weren't born. But nevertheless, I feel like one day, I'm going to meet those children who he knew before they were ever formed or fashioned in their mother's womb. And so I hold on to that.

And I look forward to that one day. So that said, I mean, so did you guys have any pets or anything? A dog? Well, no, I really didn't have time to be honest, to raise deal with pets.

Anyway, I'm not a dog fan or a cat, either. I mean, I'm with my father had a dog cats. They were around, but I've just never had any personal ones to take care of. I was a high school principal. So I raised about 10,000 kids anyway, over the years that I worked.

I did that for 30 years. I was a principal at 25 of the 30 years. So I sit down and figured out it was over about 10,000 kids.

Wow. And I went through my system while I was principal of the school. And I said, well, you know, I had an impact on those children. And it shows up now, you know, when I see them and talk to them and things like that. So I, you know, I go with that as my, what, you know, my accomplishments from that standpoint. Yeah.

And essentially, I guess what we call that like a surrogate family, right? I mean, so, right. I mean, over 10,000 students that you had the opportunity to impact and, and, uh, I'm sure there's numerous highlights. So, so you have students, Milton, that, that you will cross paths with a run into that, that, you know, Mr. Wallace, Mr. Wallace, right.

They come up, they come up to you and go and tell you a story of how you impacted their life. Right. Well, yeah. And my, uh, I was a math teacher to start with. And, um, they, you know, the kids, they, they thought I was tough. And, but what I found is those five or six years that I taught the math, most of those students, the jobs that they went into were math related type jobs.

A lot of them did. I didn't realize the impact I had until Facebook came along and I started reaching out, you know, they reached out to me, I reached out to them. They tell me what they were doing. And I would see, you know, that, and a lot of them, even now, when I see them, some of the things that I taught them, they come back and recite them back to me all these 40 something years now ago, tell, you know, let's me know that what I said to them or what I taught them had an impact on them. And, and some of them, you know, to the point that one or two of them have become like my God children.

I've had to, you know, step in and stand in for their parents as their parents went on and passed on or whatever the situation might be. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. All feet agree. Clemens carpet is where you need to be with carpet, vinyl, tile, and hardwood from the top brands. Clemens carpet does it right from beginning to install.

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You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. There's, and there's no telling the ripple effect of that, right? I mean, how, you know, how we just do, none of us know, right? None of us know the ripple effect of when we encounter somebody, whether it's being a math teacher, a principal, out there in the workplace, in the workforce, a parent, you know, just the, the, the impact and the influence we have on others. And I'm convinced Milton, maybe you are as well, that, that we'll, we'll never fully know that the, the, the repercussions of that or, or the, the impact of that until we get to heaven one day and then find, just really find out just how much an influence we had on other people. Right.

Right. Well, that, that's true because, you know, little things come up along the way. I'll run into the students.

Um, um, and it's just amazing. One of the young men, um, he at the, I, where he was, where I was principal, it was about, I'd say two, two and a half hours from here. Well, two of them, as a matter of fact, the two, two of these students that I had in my school and when I moved, when I retired and moved back to Chandler, um, who did I run into when I got here? They were both here in town or connected to people I knew in town here. And it was just like, oh, I thought I had seen you all for the last time. And, but I see them all the time now, you know, and they're constantly, we talk about the old days and they, you know, I keep up with their family and their parents and things like that. So again, you just never know what impact you have on kids or, uh, on, you know, or what, you know, their daily lives, because it comes back years later in other ways. That's a, that's a pretty cool story. And I'm just envisioning, you know, as you're talking about, you know, when you were a math teacher and, and kind of hard on, on the kids, I'm like, well, of course you were, your dad was tough with you.

And so you're, you're going to be tough with all the, all those surrogate children of your own, right? All, all of your students that you had in your class you're in and you're out. And, and what did you enjoy?

Let me ask you this. Uh, what did you enjoy most about being a principal? Anything that stands out for you? I was able to make a difference in so many kids' lives, you know, that was to see them, uh, be successful, um, was my, my big deal. You know, I really enjoyed seeing them do well or accomplish things that they had, you know, they tell me what their dreams were to see them to be able to accomplish those dreams and goals. Um, graduation for some, that was a big day for me because some of them, you know, going across the stage, being able to know that they made it on the struggles that they had to go through to get there and to see them make it. So it was a very rewarding opportunity for me, you know, in teaching the principal, all of it. Well, you know, a lot of people said, well, it was a, you know, that's a hard job and it is, but it was very rewarding to see, you know, the re the success and the kids used to call me, Mr. Clark from, um, you know, the TV movie and all like that. And, um, but they, you know, they say, you just as tough. And I told him, I said, well, you know, I'm, I'm just here to support you to help you to be the best person you can be.

We're going to, you know, give you the good foundation so that when you leave here, you can go anywhere in this world and be successful. And like I said, I've, I've seen a lot of success from the kids. Um, and, and I had the unique, uh, opportunity to actually be the principal of two high schools at one time, our town was going through transition in Denton, Texas, where I was principal, we were growing and they were trying to work out moving from one school to two. So I ended up in the long run being the principal of two schools, two high schools at once. I was really proud of that because I, it was no, I don't think very many people have been able to do that. I've had that opportunity. Wow. That's quite an accomplishment. And, and the word that was popping in my head as you were speaking, what's the word rewarding. It sounds like what you did was very rewarding. Well, let me ask you before we transition here, one more question question related to that. And so what would you say?

So a lot of rewarding things, what would you say was the hardest part about being a principal, whether it's one or both school, or just say even one school, what was the hardest part about being a principal? You're listening to the truth network and truthnetwork.com. Hi, Nikita Koloff, be sure to check out the Man Up show now available on television, broadcast and podcast. Go to morningstartv.com or the Truth Radio Network. Check out your local listings or better yet, download the Truth Network app today.

You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Believe it or not, the hardest part about being a principal was dealing with the parents. And the kids were not the problem. I had a good relationship with them. And the parents really were not either. They were very supportive.

And I loved them to death. But let me just rephrase, not parents, adults, because the system was run by adults. And sometimes, you know, it wasn't what was best for the kids. It was what was, you know, best for the system, you know, and for the, you know, to make the system work. And to me that that hindered a lot of opportunities and growth for the kids. So I always had to try to be the transition piece in there to try to make sure that the kids got what they really needed.

And also be able to meet the standard from the state and the requirements and all those things. That was the part that was the killing part was dealing with the adult side of things that you had to deal with. Yeah, I can only imagine. I can only imagine. Well, let me transition here in segue, because you're in media, multimedia.

I mentioned kind of the top of the show. We met at the NRB and in Nashville, Tennessee, at the Broadcasting Convention there. And you run and operate All Nations TV. And so a couple of questions. How did you transition into that? You founded that and or give us a little backdrop on All Nations TV.

Let me just tell you about it. That was, it had to be God, first off, because this was not what my plan was. My plan was to teach school for 30 years, and then I was going to retire. At the end of that 30th year, in April, my father passed. So I had to, I was going to have to retire anyway, because my mother did not live by herself. So I made plans to move back into the area and everything.

So when he passed, I just moved in with her to make sure that, you know, she got the proper care that she needed. And I was, my goal was that I, when I retired, I was going to be a travel agent. And I was going to see the world and travel till I was 65 and just enjoy life. But that was 14 years or so. And, but God had a different plan.

And so I was here. And one of my friends, he was running the local cable in the area, the local cable religious station. He'd been doing that. And so he decided that he didn't want to do it anymore. And so he sold it to one of his friends and he was out of it. So we, but we, you know, stayed in touch. Then he told me that there was a new product coming out called Roku that he had read about and really thought that it was going to be a big deal.

And that, you know, we really need to try to jump on that. I told him, I know nothing about TV. I don't need to be involved in it. You're listening to the truth network and truth network.com. Nikita Koloff here.

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You're listening to the truth network and truth network.com. Uh, I said, because I can't contribute anything to, to that. And he said, Oh, come on, come on. You can be involved. So I told him, I said, well, if you got other people involved, which he had two other partners.

And then he says, well, you come in and be a silent partner. So I said, okay, that's what I'll do. And so I, I did that. And in the process of time, the other him and the other two, they were still working jobs.

And I was the only one who was retired. So at that time, more and more things started happening that I needed to address and deal with. And so it got more and more in where I had to take on more and more responsibility to the point that the other said, well, you know, since you're doing this, we just let you do it. So that's kind of how I ended up being at the head of everything is because I've just kind of fallen into the position.

You got to move the chess pieces around and got me in that spot, you know? And so I, I love it. You know, I never would have thought I would have enjoyed this, but I really do because it gives me an opportunity to meet people to make a difference in their lives, to promote God's word, all of those things. And that's, that's what's so dear to me, being able to help people.

That's amazing. Well, two words you said that I want to highlight, but God, and I just had to laugh because, you know, you're like, ah, I never would have thought I'd ever be doing this and boy, I can relate to that. I mean, you know, I never thought I'd be an evangelist. Never thought I'd, you know, be doing men's conferences and camps and have a TV show and a radio show and a podcast and write books. And I never thought, but God, right? I mean, like you had a 30 year plan. You're going to sail off into the sunset and be a travel agent.

I thought I'm going to play pro football for 10 years, go into coaching for 20 years and then sail off into the sunset. Right. But God, right. Well, that's pretty amazing. So, and, and the network's been around for 10 years. Is that, is that right?

Yeah. We started in 2012 and so now it's been 10 years and a few months and you know, we've been, we wanted to do it, um, without, you know, we didn't go out looking for a lot of sponsors and different things like that, but you know, we wanted them, but we weren't going to compromise the, what we were trying to do. And that was to get God's word out.

We were not going to do that. And we wanted to make sure that we gave the people that were just getting started or the smaller ministries an opportunity to be seen and heard. That was one of our big goals. So we've tried to stay true to that through what we do. Plus we wanted to make sure that by our name, All Nations TV, that we were appealing to the whole nation.

So we even had a way, a unique way we set up our time slots so that we can relate and adjust to the time areas that people are in. Well, and, and which is one of the reasons, uh, I'm grateful one for this conversation to that. I met you in Nashville because you're going to, uh, um, you're, you're going to be airing, you know, so I got the man up radio show that we're talking on today. And of course the podcast, but, uh, uh, just a few months ago, I was in the process of filming the man up TV show and you graciously said, we'd love to air that show. And, uh, and so that's launching on All Nations TV, the man up TV show, which you're going to air that as you just mentioned multiple times, uh, I think four different times each week.

So that's in all the different markets around, around the nations. And, uh, which is exciting because like our podcast, the last count was downloaded in 64 different countries. And so I'm excited for, for your network. Uh, tell us real quick, we're, we're almost out of time, but some of the, some of the different programming, um, and, and, and I know you guys have won a bunch of awards.

I pulled up one here. You wanted a kingdom image award in 2019. Uh, you were nominated by media outlet and, and won the kingdom 2019 kingdom image award. So, but tell our listeners, uh, some of the programming, um, maybe a couple of the accolades and how all nations tv.com, right. Is where they're going to find all the programming, the man up show and all your other programming, but take a minute and tell us about some of the other programming and some of the accolades you guys have won Milton.

Okay. Well, one of the things that we like to pride ourselves in is that we are out to support the ministries, no matter how big or how small you might be, just to help you get that foundation to get started. We have shows on with the, with Tony Evans and Perry Ellis and some of the others from around the country. But we also have some of the local smaller ministries in our area and around the country that are part of what we do. So we also have some cooking shows. We have, um, we had a few show, one show was called Bible or babble type things where it was like a contest kind of game show type of thing. And so we, we have some children's shows as well. So we try to make it where it's appealing for the family.

We want, we have good quality, wholesome type of programs for family. We've got a few shows coming in. Matter of fact, we're getting ready to broadcast the, from the NRB there award show for the films and movies and things like that.

We're going to be broadcasting that. So we try to reach all the different facets of people that are out there that, you know, love God and care about the family. And so we have community oriented shows as well. So like I said, we, we, we do that.

We try to, uh, reach the communities around the country, around the world. And the way we did that is that we set up our time schedule, those four different times of the week, the show will be on all four at that same time every, every week. But we did it in such a way so that it staggers so that you might be on it 2 a.m. one day in this day and the time that you're in. But next time it might be, next day it might be 8 a.m. or that way. So that way it's not, you know, it's not the same time.

And if I lived in China, it might be day, I want to make it where it's daylight where people that when they get off work, they can see it without having to stay up to three or four o'clock in the morning. And I think that's one of the unique things that we do. Well, yeah. And, and, and obviously so quite a variety of programming, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, right? And, uh, all nations, TV, all nations, tv.com, Milton Wallace. And, uh, man, I hope you've enjoyed his story today. And I'm excited and, and really humbled at the same time that you guys are going to be airing them the new man up TV show and, uh, so grateful, uh, feel blessed, Milton. Thank you so much for that opportunity. And, uh, and we're going to direct, we got, we're going to direct a lot of people your way and hopefully you're going to pick up a lot more viewers, all nations, tv.com, the man up show, TV show, and, uh, Milton, thank you so much for sharing some of your story today.

Fascinating. Thank you as well. And I want to say one last thing is that if they, if they have Roku, they can also see it. We have an all nations TV Roku channel as well.

So they'll be able to see it there as well. All right. So head on over to Roku, if you have that, and thank you for tuning in to another episode of the man up show radio version with yours truly, the Russian nightmare, Nikita Kolov. This podcast is made possible by the grace of God and your faithful prayers, support, and generous gifts.

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