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January 25, 2022 1:00 am
Today, Nikita speaks with good friend and pastor Scott Nary. To find more about his ministries please visit 420fire.org
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Well here we are again another Q&A with rolloff questions and answers where we flip it around were normally you know on the man up show. I typically asking all the questions and and the interviewee is providing all of the answers are indoors where having a conversation but today I Q&A would coal off. We we we flip the table here and and so with me today is Scott Mary, welcome to Q&A would coal off. Scott was great to be here again great to have you here. We we metal as though I will while backend fascinated by by your background and your story me got a whole sports background as well as a minute quite a mix as well as a ministry background right right. We do a lot of evangelism training okay okay but but well but prior to evangelism training which actually sit here looking at you, still pretty good shape yeah because you've worked in the past. For those who maybe don't know you worked with the Carolina hurricane the Carolina Panthers you work for NASCAR all kinds of pro athletes, special athletes and what is specializing in wants what I was that I was a deep tissue sports massage therapy guy we call it neuromuscular therapist and you and you went to school and it is. I remember in Canada for that which the training can do for that special school and basically I would do a lot of be the guy that will hurt you in fiction, you would hurt me in a good way yes I like that hurts my therapy was never pleasant when you're like oh, but you can feel so much better like a day from now. Right today is not right that the ring you know I would hurt you know all you get over it, you will improve fry from from this Russian cycle is. I know you grew up you tell me you grew up as a wrestling fan you get is questions here in just a minute but I want our listeners is to know little bit about who's asking the questions) and so so your original West Virginia guy go to school you go to want to Bible college you go to massage school and in Canada, which is interesting. I think I recall you telling me you had some special so special. It is really training or something.
So I'm a Krav Maga instructor okay Israeli self-defense and maybe a preacher I tell people this way sub training is really self-defense so and I can actually kill you and raised in the same time like that I can take you out but I could also lay hands on you my glasses I can raise you back to library go once I take you out and so what you know that's a very extensive background of your family. Mandy love love lovely wife Marcy. Marcy five children what Anastas you seven kids. You have a kid that you chose things all the unique names CI so we got so Alex and Andrew, we've got dioxin we've got. May Zach and Trinity okay enter it. Those are interesting. Is there a quick story behind the unique thing. Oh yeah, always okay I guess the most unique name is the one that they may Zach okay it actually is a Slavic name which means to rubber to smear or to anoint yeah so and Marcy like that name because no one else had that name. My life likes picking names that no one else knows you don't see Christine Scott is that you know every every name has a meaning.
So now know I'm I'm thinking that a lot of people have no clue what their name means.
But every name has a meaning it really just and it and even give you go all the way back to the Israel Hebrew Jewish roots of mean names then just name a kid just whatever all let's roll the dice and just, I mean they were very strategic about what they name their children and then on how that name and what it meant and then how it kinda set them up for for life in the sense right right will see my name's Scott, which is my middle name. My first name is Roger. My middle initials*do you know of the common they go.
We do so well so my mom and my names are Roger actually means famous Spearman's anger throws with those of Jablon okay and Scott means from Scotland or from afar. So okay so baby Scottish there's Scottish and Irish MES cases eight receive and I find Nelson, you got to Russian. I yeah I am Tracy back to the days when you loved and absolutely absolute grown up in West Virginia right that I was that dirty Russian guy you know that everyone what he wanted to hate but actually my mom was born on the English, Scottish border, a little village called Hayden outside Township called Carlisle really yeah since L English. Scott is higher is Swedish so there's a mixture there.
I doubt that there is a drop of Russian blood in. But right hey it worked for for is still working. So, according to ancestry.com. I Marcy related to John Wayne. What do I do the do, you can walk like okay well hey let okay so let me ask you this is so your your your minister what your ministry called skull 425 420 firework of people find out more often go to our website for 20 fired at work and it's based upon first Corinthians 4 verse okay. First Corinthians 4 chapter 4 verse 20 and in.
I remember you told me you're like 30 something states that were were like in the end of your 34 states, 34 states intent 10 countries 10 different shifts 10 different nations in which is cool because this this show may go may go into some of those nations and some of your summary, your parishioners make may hear hear you in their nation on this show had a cool teller list. This is real quick and remember you getting your questions later.tell it what what is for 20 firework what you spent likes it goes any website or what you doing in all these different states and always different nations like what you like this so first Corinthians 4 verse 20 says the kingdom is not a word but in power. What we do is we train people how to minister not in word but in power. Okay so you know we sometimes if you ever go to the gym and you notice that there's trainers that work there a lot of people realize what sums as trainers don't actually work for the gym they work for another company that goes to the gym yet. The current contract. That is their specialist okay for 20 far is the specialist of evangelism.
So what happens we go in the in the cities we work with churches and they do once a month training in power evangelism. I wrote a book called power evangelism with Dr. Michael Brown wrote the forward to okay and I talked all about what we do so will go to sleep okay. We do pray for people to say pray for people. This is how the Lord moves. This is how the Holy Spirit work stuff like that and then you lead them to the conclusion of who the Lord is and you invite them into relationship so basically it's a it's more one month once a month meetings of equipping and you train people. We do outreaches together. So, in all these places were in we their lot and then churches. A lot of our summer leaders are actually senior pastor okay so and we do have a couple of churches that are actually full full-fledged for 25 churches one is in Denver, Colorado, and then we got one in Phoenix Arizona to and one form so we have three so Sue just so friendless to just give a quick summary of if you Have some trouble bacteria will what 420 far is all about is is basically to train and equip the body of Christ to be the gospel with legs to go out and do the works of Jesus is talking about Jesus fulfill the great commission fulfill the great commission. We do that through once a month outreaches also just train people practicality the skills what you need to do to actually build relationships and also how to pray for people.
This somebody would see you teach is something you teach people the basics, yes, so basic Christianity 1110 why did it actually take it actually like in the book of James. Your faith without actions like the body without breath like right will body with the breath is dead right so you have all the faith the world but I don't take any action so sounds like you so you you teach, train, equip, but then you deploy absolutely not summarize its telling me anything about this man.
I think every person's it's like their secular job as a shadow of the calling. So look at what I've done my job was a trainer I got people trained how to befit my joy and how to defend themselves to defend themselves how to fight right right and also did neuromuscular sports I was you, and it was actually to be whole. You know, so that's really what you're doing is were teaching people how to actually go out into the world and to be salt and light not salt and vinegar and that's you that's good to set something man can know something we we bet big on training is to people and it is an annual Lex Luther and I and I know you talk little bit about that.
We talk talk one of the time, Brent. What have you on the map showed the fun talk, but let's do this. Let's do this let's let's flip it around here okay this Q&A would call often and enter like when they were going to get to his question so ethereal is flipping around in an I don't really have a clue what you get asking that's always fun for me so first question fire away.
Okay first question who gave you the hardest chop was a cheap one who McDaniel or was it Richler I would throw one more name and that is hands of stone, you know, who at was as a stone that Ronnie Garvey yes right. He is a stone was almost a tossup between the three of them, but I would I would have to if I had to pick one. Scott, I would say wahoo for sure. Although flare left plenty of handprints on my chest. Plenty of hamper effect until your report story in it because I would chop by all three yeah I mean the hands of stone that he lived up to his name.
Let me just say that I read his daily clenches physically better to keep the sand over wall hand open typically bears like over there over the overhead like damn you no one on your chest or whatever. Wahoo. More about the old Indian chop thing in the course flare you know it Hawaii wrestling in Hawaii main event Rick flare and long story short, I was out on the beach too long the day before while the day off.
A whole euro spent the day before and the day of. I look like a lobster IBI was like I was toasted. I would like to note no chops today man look look look at me and I could barely move right you know I later found out tripping on.
I later found out, so I had sent boys me like I was out that you had to wrestle main event, though my guidance flare and you I never rest. I don't think less than 30 minutes against him ever unlike. Note Jim no chops today man look for real estate yeah the very first thing that Rick I'll you want. I'm just saying I don't think I ever gave you a payback for this back to me in the corner right after the ring the bell start the bad backs me in the corner. You know you he backs you know Pam, I mean he lays out a I think that's done more than any chop I've ever received.
Who in and man I tour after he scooted out of the regulator hee hee you know yeah I like to anyway so was his figure 4 leg lock how how painful was so so so the figure 4 leg lock.
I mean you really if you don't know what you doing.
Don't know what you do and you can really hurt somebody new somebody like in many of the moves wrestling what you're doing. You can hurt somebody right it asked stone cold Steve Austin if you don't know how to give a piledriver you can break somebody snack while he had his neck broke. Not once but twice. From what I understand, and from somebody you didn't know what they were doing the figure 4 leg lock. It's a real deal of you can really put the screws to somebody really put the pressure on somebody.
Now that's not intent. That's not the intended outcome in the inner wrestling matches were trying to give the impression were trying to maim somebody but not really right so you do have to know what you doing the figure 4 leg lock could hurt if if he and and if you want to have a little fun with you course in wrestling.
There was always the term payback. So if you what we said potato someone or hurt someone accidentally knew there was what we called a receipt coming back or could come back.
The guy could pay you back for that that tater for that potato. Oh well yeah so the question well okay I will know the question I have for you is the gimmick aright so the gimmick to get ISO so you start to use try to speak Russian okay I portrayed Russian guy Russian guns yet. That was my element.
Or did you get your did you practice in the mirror like I must break you what, how many hours did you practice this gimmick by yourself that's that's what I'm curious because people know what the time that you do behind-the-scenes to develop this game. Yeah, I wasn't so much that I recall in standing looking in a mirror is much as I got a Russian cassette tape back in the day for those you young enough don't know what that is.
Go Google that I literally got a hand hands on a Russian cassette tape and and in a Russian workbook so I could learn some Russian like alert how to sign my name in Russian the cuticle off so I used to sign the lease is signed with the Russian letters know where you got inside in English early on it matter what I was signing. That's how I signed it on fact was a collectors cup out there at the 7-Eleven's or something one year had the right words on one. I was on one whatever and you'll see you'll see my name on there in Russian and for those whose this top dressing circle actually have one answer anyway.
It was about a six month period before I actually learned my first English word you just off the boat that had come a long way just stared and looked at it with you because you had that chain around yeah the chain know sure and not yes I would have a very intense look at that would try to intimidate not only my opponent but anyone else so I came in contact with right shoulder was over six month period that in mind, it was more like just come in my head.
Scott, like I really was from there. How would this word sound and in that's how some people say you when you would talk about Magnum TA. You didn't sound like you said the word Magnum why I didn't need to intentionally make my get the eye going to question my get the because I didn't want what I want the people think.
Always gets a Magnum is just learning English and also insult them by saying maggot yet. I have may think a page on the Sgt. slaughter's book. And I get blood or flare that I will be able to pronunciation flare. Such a Rick factor I going to school, you know, just in my mind's eye go up and down the roads listen the cassette tape and they sit in my mind, I really was from there. How would this word somehow with this phrase sound how it all that's already fall right back to be just a little quick. There are some people who back in the days of VHS tapes. And again, I know some you might have to Google that as well.
VHS what is a VHS tape people record the shows they go Nikita and I hear the stories not all the autograph signing this stuff that I do, cons, and almost the go. We record the show play back and forth the back of work on east trying so hard. What is he trying to say is I will. The words were so muffled are souls slurred away that that I wanted.
I got back to look at a couple what was I trying to say that I don't read who was your favorite commentator, man, that's a great question. Is there some really good ones having AEW now has two legends, Tony should Bonnie and base reminding them of the way yeah is to come. Should Bonnie, that's crazy. I don't know all your friends that yeah okay okay well I don't know why West Virginia man enough to make up that's another silver. Another time to have you so so so Tony should Bonnie Jim Rossi, of course, JR Bartolome.
People loved Bob Cottle for those who know that course the legend of Gordon solely I mean the legend of wrestling announcing the zero there were a lot of good ones that didn't mean Jean ever work with you know well I think about. I did a few appearances for AEW AEW AWA back in the day. He may have still been with them. I can't remember for sure. He may have already gone so not everything but little unknown fact mean Jean Oakland graduated high school from the same high school way yeah a few years before me, but he was robbed so high school so was Vern Gagne. While all along with seven others in my own route comes from your group. Kurt handing Barry Doris or John nor Tom say brainy bold love Minnesota was the minerals in the water tower. It's got a because I mean you just produce major rescue your health guys you would relate that was all the minerals in the in the water towers right right right Minnesota right Moscow, Minnesota.
Anyway, I alright so so what else so we got go, what else you got what got time for another another question yeah okay so as far as you did you ever wrestle Greg Valentine. I'm sure, he is a stone got the hammer yeah hammer gray had a hammer Valentine's. My guess is to say yes because we were around. He's a believer now I understand he had made a profession of faith.
In fact, I have a we do not reach one time: nine nights a night of legends and we had a wrestling show this in Virginia recorded for TV was to be formatted call night of legends bequest to get this on my website co-op.net and you get you get a wrestling the night of legends that has a bunch of matches then has Ivanhoe lofts testimony my testimony. Greg Hammer's testimony and in a number of of of of of testimony social evangelism tool wrestling for right right right of legends and DVD all that to say something I feel I feel yes I did but I mean going back wrestle somebody guys like I forgot wrestle diamond Dallas page. You did mean that I know I told you this before.
I think my biggest memory of you was when you Russian sickle Sam used in any completely backflip. He did what you might say a 36 that that was that was epic man buried it is burned in your memory.
Loneliness is a highly drug habit. You know I think if I'm not mistaken I think is phoned the Loretta.
I'm not sure I have. I haven't run into my soul. He recently at a school that is arrested school by Russ Lodi who was part of the ravens flock back in the 90s Nitro days Ward Nitro money that wars Lodi who have had on the Q&A show I saw Sam pop up recently at his school and helping out some guys and I don't know what that means but you're not sure what is your favorite venue to wrestle at what play or city was like some your for Baltimore, Maryland. Really why today Crockett cup tagteam tournament thus denied the throughput power you became the king and in the back and I love how you talking to me. What was he like the throws personally, I mean film yeah I just had a had a heart for the man fell in love with the guys family and increase Cody's doing amazing things with AEW and Dustin and yeah I just enjoyed more than enjoy my time with him to Baltimore by far one because one the coffee cup tagteam turn their secondly the short version of the story is Crockett had the brain brain child of flare and I wrestling two main events in Richmond, Virginia, Baltimore, Maryland on the same night. Why yeah. Oh my goodness.
And so we wrestle for intermission in Richmond, which the fans were not happy about a world title match before intermission. No way to get on a plane and fly to Baltimore and wrestle and duplicate that in Baltimore that same night we stepped in the ring show there started 8 o'clock general versus our seven week. It still took longer than you meant private planes limousines the whole deal to and fro, but did not worship. We stepped into the ring show started eight Baltimore Kenai stepped in the ring. After resting 30, 40 minutes in Richmond.
I looked at Scott was 12 midnight so people already been there for hours. This we finished the match. I looked at clock 1255 in the morning while resting 55 minutes in both the fence on the feet the whole time as all of the defensible point like these guys are amazing and so those two goes to the inner Harbor and Sabatino's in Little Italy. My favorite all-time favorite to shut out the Sabatino's Little Italy Baltimore when my favorite all-time places all yeah so there are a lot of other towns are. I really honestly enjoy dressing. I was to greens parole Charlotte bring so much history and summary stories in those towns from Starkey to the Great American pastor Mike turn become a good guy beating magnet for the best-of-seven. So there's a lot of history and a lot of Townsend that I have fond memories so was the biggest practical joker in most the wrestlers near to me there there there were there were a bunch of them.
There honestly were probably the first and pops in my mind is Rick Steiner Rick Steiner him, his brother Scott Steiner, but react in a requisition with the caller shooter.
He was a hooker.
He is nowhere she had extensive amateur background you really did mess with Rick even if he messed with you you you better be prepared because he knew how to take it up in a pretzel and I'll let you lose, you need a guy like I would need a guy like you to come and must do deep tissue massage. Once Steiner got got done with me. If you mess with him but yeah he is a lie. He was in my mind. He's the first thing that comes to mind.
So anyway so Q&A with rolloff mascot Mary here with me pastor Scott Mary to rococo more time.
How can they find out about your ministry, go to our website for 20 fire.420 fire.org check out for 20 fire church in the canal was North Carolina-based. There and and were looking at worry, we got have you back sometime. God love that man unit with rolloff.
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