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No, that's a bad man. It's time to man up with Satan's nightmare, Nakia Koloff. Welcome back. Excited to have on the show today Doug Neubauer. Doug, welcome to It's Time to Man Up.
Well, thank you, sir. It's a pleasure and an honor to be here.
Well, it's an honor to have you, Doug. We're going to dive into. Dive into your story here as the show unfolds. But let's start with where you're you're down in South Carolina, is that right? Yes, sir.
Spartanburg area. Down in Greenville, Spartanburg. I haven't flown out of that airport often, but I have flown out of that airport. over the years of my forty years of flying.
So um and I'm I'm very familiar with a couple of the buildings down there in Greenville and Spartanburg.
So uh did you ever was wrestling ever on your radar, uh, in your earlier years? Uh, no, sir, not really. The only thing I knew about professional wrestling from your area was the Saturday morning cartoon show. I think it was called Hulk Hogan the Superheroes or something like that. Yeah, yeah.
The WWF back in its day, now WWE, but the WWF back in its day, yeah, they had the cartoon. They were doing a bunch of stuff. Eventually, Hogan had his own show. Hogan knows best. I mean, just pro wrestling really grew from, you know, just little armories and high school gyms to really what it is today, a worldwide phenomenon, really.
It's pretty amazing. It really is. But. lot lots and lots of fans out there of of that of that business, of the of of that uh Sport, if you will.
So, okay, so.
So let's talk about who you are and what what you do for a minute down there in Spartanburg.
South Carolina. Tell us about your family and okay. I'm married to a wonderful woman named Nicole. We've been married for over 29 years now. Have two grown children, one son, one daughter.
They're They're both working and trying to contribute to society. No, that's always a good thing. That's always a good thing. Yeah, that's yeah. Haven't had to bail them out of jail or anything like that.
Yes. That's a blessing in Skies. That is a blessing. Yep. Yep.
I'm I'm involved in my church. We just recently got involved in a church plant this year that launched its first service back in uh September seventh. And before that, I was the church that was sending us. I was involved in it. I was a deacon.
I was off rotation off rotation at the time. I started an archery ministry back in two thousand nine. But that's I think that chapter is closing at this point in time.
So for what I do for a living, I am a safety field safety professional for an industrial electrical contractor headquartered out of Greenville. And I've been in safety.
Well, I've always there's always been safety aspects of my job career fields that I've worked in, but full-time safety since about two also since about 2009. Um prior to that I was a um I worked as a paramedic full time for seven years. I was also involved in fire service. during my time at EMS, I also had the privilege of being a reserve police officer in order to be a medic for the SWAT team for the city of Spartanburg for about five of those years. Wow.
Okay. Yeah, back in the nineties was my aviation years. I was I was trained as a pilot and then due to the economy, I didn't The market wasn't in much demand, so I ended up going back to school and becoming an aircraft mechanic. It takes more than that to keep airplanes flying than compared to the number of pilots required.
So, there's several mechanics. Keep the plane flying. I'm all about that. I'm good with that. Absolutely.
Absolutely. I'm good with that. Takeoffs, optional, landings, mandatory. That's right.
Now, how did so? How did you and Nicole meet? We've met in a grocery line checkout line on Yes, she was the cashier and It was Christmas Eve, 1993. Uh, it was looking if you remember a grocery store chain called Winn Dixie. I do.
Yeah. Yes. And so she was the cashier and it was Christmas Eve. My dad and I went in to get a couple of items last minute for Christmas dinner or breakfast or whatever we were having and he He knew my wife through her dad. They were her her family's business was my dad's client.
My dad was an accountant. And they were one of his clients, and he goes, Oh, that's Jerry's daughter. I think she's around your age.
Well, that piqued my interest when I heard around my age. Uh-huh. And I said, well, how many items? She's working the express lane. I said, well, how many of the items we got?
We got one or two. And I'm like, that's less than 10. Last my count. We qualify. We qualify.
Let's go check out Nicole. Oh, my gosh. What a great story. 29 years and two children later. Yeah, yes.
That is a great story. I got to tell you, I think that's the first that I have heard personally, you know, coming through the checkout line. Yeah, and it was actually exactly one year later on Christmas Eve, 1994, that I proposed. Really? Oh, my gosh.
That's amazing.
So I'm curious, though, Doug.
So, like, did you come through the line and go, hey, can I get your phone number? Like, what happened? Oh, this. Yeah, this is uh we jokingly say we had a partially arranged marriage since our my my dad and her dad were also involved in politics together. You were set up.
It was a set up. Yeah, we it was it was a set up, yes. And We it was uh during that Christmas vacation that I was home and that the we the year that I met her, so it was 1993. Uh her dad called that called the house when we were eating dinner one night and I'm just sitting at the table being a smart Alec because that's what I do naturally. She I hear I'm you know, I hear who my dad's talking to and so I start going under my breath, Hey, has Nicole got boyfriend?
Nicole dating anybody? You know, just asking questions under my.
Well, my mother. Gets a post-it note and writes down, is Nicole available for dating and slides it over to my father? And I'm like, no, she didn't.
Well, then it gets better. My dad and he says, Hey, you know, her da his d her dad's name was Jerry and he he goes, Hey, Jerry, um, not to y I want to change the subject real quick, not to disrupt you, but uh, you you know my son, Doug, and he's getting ready to graduate college and uh uh You know, he'd he'd like to know if Nicole's available for dating, has she got a boyfriend or anything? And I'm like, I'm sitting there, my jaw on the table, going, My dad is trying to fix me up. Go down. Oh, my gosh, Dad.
Embarrassed me. Oh, it it gets even better. A couple of days later I get a phone call from an ex-girlfriend. Oh. And we we were still on good terms and we even considered getting back together and she uh the way her colleges were set up at the time on a quarter system, so they didn't get the nice long winter break that I did.
Okay. Anyway, so she says, I I had a interesting conversation with a friend of mine today, and I'm kinda going in my brain going like I really care, but okay, humor me. and she says she found a guy she'd like to date but can't remember his name and I'm like Slowly started to think, I said, Oh, don't tell me she knows Nicole. And sure enough, she I said we we I let her, you know, And I said, So who what's your friend's name? And she said, Nicole Hunter.
I said I figured as much. Wow.
Come on. She even pushed it. She says, Are you gonna call her? Are you gonna go out with her? I said, I gotta head back to college tomorrow.
I will I will write her I will write her a letter. And I I did that when I got back to school. A letter? You wrote her a letter. I wrote her a letter and then I called her a few days later.
Once I figured, she said to figure if she got the seeing if she got the letter, and she. She did and I said, Okay, she said, Well She's you didn't uh Talk too much about yourself.
Well, I didn't want to sound so sor narcissistic or anything like that, but our We ended up talking on the phone for about two hours.
So, so here's what let me interject something here for our listeners.
So, here's what's funny, okay?
So, Doug is somewhat aging himself because you hear about writing a letter. Because, Doug, in today's world, it's like, let me write an email, right? Yeah, there's no writing letters. Like, who writes a letter anymore, right? I guarantee you, some of my listeners don't even know what you're talking about right now.
Wait, he did what? He wrote a letter. What's that? What's that mean? I use an instrument called a pen and a piece of paper.
And paper, right, line glasses. No computer involved here. No computer involved. No computer involved here. And longhand.
You wrote a longhand, right? Wrote it wrote it longhand. I guarantee you some some don't even know what that is.
So anyway, that's pretty funny.
Okay, okay.
So anyway, back on track here.
So that's an amazing so you eventually you go out a year later, you propose to her and here you are 29 years later. That's amazing.
Well, congratulations on the 29 years. I mean, that's in today's world, that's a real milestone in and of itself. And thank you as well. I didn't know, at least I didn't recall the first responder EMS PD part. But thank you for serving in that capacity.
But let me ask you something. I'm curious, okay? Take a minute and talk about archery ministry. Doug, what is that? Enlighten me and my listeners to archery ministry.
Oh, boy. Just reader's digest version of the archery minister. Yeah, and that's what I'm trying to struggle with. Gotcha. All right, so archery does date back into the Bible.
Ishmael back in Genesis got sent to the wilderness to become an archer.
Okay. So it's a. Uh I ended up starting it because I was God convicts my heart, you know, there's a lot of kids out there that want to do sports but just aren't cut out to do the the traditional sports. Uh and So he says, but I use, and God's saying, like, I use individuals. I make disciples of individuals.
And I had a passion for archery. I was yeah, I was trying to Flying an archery coach to eventually get into the competition world on my own. And then God would have these people in my pathway steer me toward Archery Ministry. And there was one day uh in that this one guy tried to steer me to this one program And it wasn't even a faith-based program. It was just a program they were using in the schools.
And it was just g gaining traction. And I remember looking at some YouTube videos back in the 2000s. about it and I'm like, well that would make a great ministry.
Well at the time I saw said that, I was in grad school. And so, like, okay, nothing's going to happen in time now.
So, in 2000, yeah, 2009.
Well, I graduated grad school in two thousand eight. wasn't getting any jobs. Of course, the economy is kind of going down the hill at that time too. And I was getting burned out at EMS, and I was like, what's going on here?
Well In Sunday school one day, I remember I was working EMS, worked uh the truck I was on was in the same area as my church, so I told my partner, I said, I'm gonna go to Sunday school if you don't mind. I said, yeah, well, I'll go with you.
So I went, cool. And we were the lesson that day was on spiritual gifts.
Well, I'd never heard of spiritual gifts. And the teacher encouraged us to go to this one website. and do a spiritual gifts assessment. I'm like, okay, well I'm not having much luck trying to get something at postgrad school, so let me let's see what God has to say. And it was I took this assessment and I go through the analytics of what my assessment meant, and one of them was said you'd be good at establishing new ministries.
I'm like, I don't think so. I have no clue. And then God took me back to that moment. He said, remember when you saw that archery program and you thought it would make a great ministry?
Now's the time to start stepping up, big boy. And so I'm like, okay.
So I found a program called Center Shot. And It is a faith-based program. And they teach the fundamentals of uh target archery, but they incorporate a discipling process and you know sharing of your faith and so forth. That's how I kind of got into it.
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And and and I mean, was it open like like for teenage boys or men or just we opened it from Third grade on up, we allowed the parents to come and participate too. Cool.
So it was something that families could do together as an activity. That's cool. That's where that's that's that's very unique. I mean, for real. Like, I don't they Again, I don't think I've ever heard of an archery ministry.
So, I mean, I think that's pretty cool. The word sin is an archery term. It means miss the mark. Mm, come on. Come on.
Wow.
Wow.
Miss the mark, sin, Missed the mark. I'm making a note of that one. That's good.
Well, and of course, you know, in Archery, I don't know a whole lot about it, but I do know there's a bullseye, right? Yes. And uh which is the objective, right, is to put the arrow in the bullseye. And so I guess for for us to hit the bullseye, you know, we to the best of our ability uh do our best not to sin, right? Right.
And part of it also was I didn't just, you know, we taught a shot process. There was like 11 steps of a shot process because. Anybody can get up there and eventually figure out how to hit the bullseye from a certain fixed distance a certain way. And But the thing is That bullseye moves in life. And our walk of Christ mo you know, we'll shift.
We're we're growing. And as we're growing, the different the gets challenging or new targets come up.
So you gotta have a process in place. similar to discipleship in terms of, okay, Yeah, I'm I'm shooting this type of bow, or I'm switching over this type of bow, or I'm indoors, I'm outdoors. you know, Archery's got is so vast When you start scratching around and digging into it, there's so many opportunities for it. But the distances change, the equipment changes, the rules change, the targets change.
So that high scoring mark is always kind of changing. But if you don't have a process in place and the body mechanics in place, you're gonna be all over the place. Mm. That's that's pretty pretty fascinating actually.
So it's a discipline. It's a discipline, just like disciple and discipline had the same the Latin root word, descipula, which is student of or follower of. Yeah. Well, and speaking of discipline and and disciple. Um I I wanna I wanna sh I wanna shift gears here 'cause when you talk about You know, missing the mark or or hitting the mark.
Um, and and uh you you had uh Come down last fall, you came down to the band camp down in Georgia. And um and you had some encounters down there. uh with the Lord, and certainly we got to spend time together and and uh there over the course of of of several days. And let's take a few minutes to just kind of talk about that experience and maybe what what did the Lord reveal to you? Where were you missing the mark, perhaps?
And what was kind of your overall assessment of your camp experience.
So start with you know, coming into camp, what you know, what what were you anticipating, if anything, and w and and just kind of what happened. Uh coming into camp it was just I was just coming in without any I didn't know what with open expectation in terms of okay, God, what do you need to do to me, through me, for me, whatever. I didn't come in with any exact expectations. And I didn't come in with a negative mindset in terms of I don't expect God to do anything for me 'cause I learned that that's another story for another day.
Okay. Yeah. That's I had a lesson in that experience. But it was just like, okay, What what am I doing? uh and yeah, I was looking forward to the uh digital detox, you know, no cell phone, no computers or anything, nobody from work bothering me, uh, and stuff like that.
So I was looking for that. I said, Okay, Cal, what are you going to show me here this week? And as we're going through the week, it started being evident I needed to let some stuff go. Um you know, bitterness and and bitterness and anger were were s you know, were some my key ones. And Okay.
basically through Mancamp, you know, God broke me. But I'm the clay, he's the potter. Mm-hmm. I'm the creation. How dare I try to tell the creator how to do things.
And when he breaks you and he crushes you. But man, does he rebuild ya? And he rebuilds you in something that you don't even recognize. Yeah. Yeah, 'cause he uh uh you know the y there's different ana you know, use the clay and the potter analogy.
There's there's the uh you know the refining fire, right? Uh we might go through some things and and and uh you know, reminded of uh of uh I guess a blacksmith. I I don't know if that's the term and I you know, anyway, a silversmith, I guess, maybe uh you know one who purifies silver or even the process of purifying gold, right? Hot, intense heat. For the dross to come up to the top, for them to scrape the dross off so that they can get the purest gold or the purest silver possible.
And so, in using those analogies, what has God done?
Well, He'll allow us to go through things that that hopefully w you know in those intense moments, these things crop up. To the surface, and then we address them and take care of them, hopefully, ideally, right?
So that we can become more in the image of Christ, right? And now you were invited by a friend, right? Isn't that how you got to man camp? Yeah, a fellow man camp alumnus is uh is my technically my accountability partner.
Okay. And uh he went through it at couple years ago in the springtime. And you know, we almost talk to each other just about every day between our you know, hos talk to him going home and he's on the road a lot as a truck driver, so Pretty much we talk a lot and then that week I was like, What's going on with him? I know he's gonna be at man camp and I knew he wasn't gonna have any connect connectivity. and then he came back when he got back and you know, he's protecting the sacredness of the camp.
He's I'm he's I can't tell you What all goes down there, but let me tell you something. God did some stuff.
Okay. And you know, he kept encouraging me and he m my Nicole my wife and I were meeting with him and his wife just visiting one day and he looked at her, he says, If if you ever get the funding available, he says, He needs to go to man camp Mm. And Uh then He goes, What are you afraid of? I said, I just don't know what God's going to do to me. For a while, there was the fear: what is God going to do to me?
Right, right. And Yeah, and it's not a, it was just like, okay, well, and then when this year it worked out. You know, my wife, you know, I showed up at Man Camp on my anniversary, on my twenty-ninth anniversary. Wow.
With with your with Nicole's blessing, right? Absolutely, because you know, a coup before I When I about the time I was registering or I sent the first registration, it somehow got misplaced, but that was back in the summer. And we were trying to plan our you know, our annual uh anniversary trip what we're gonna do and we'll go take a few days off. And about this time was also the same time we we had to a marriage conference up in Ridgecrest, North Carolina. And she says And we kept figuring where you want to go, where do you want to go?
And we have our places we'd like to go to. Yeah. This year I want you to go to man camp. I said, Excuse me? And she goes, You need to go to man camp.
you need to be around other brothers in Christ. She says, I'll tell you things until I'm blue in the face, but there's some things that you need to hear from other men. Just like I need to hear things exactly from sisters in Christ. Men need to hear from other men at times. Wow.
And to have, and I tell all the ladies, you know, of course, I'm out on the weekends sometimes preaching in different settings. You know, I will hear. You know, I will say to the ladies, you know, just encourage that special man-need life. You know, you know, don't. Don't Browbeat them, or you know, but just give them your blessing and encourage him to come.
I received on that note, we just got a few minutes left here, but on that note, you know, I received this just recently. I've been waiting a week, so it's a week after camp, right? To send this because it's taken me that long to find the words. All I could do for a few days was cry tears of joy. But there's not enough words in the world to describe the gratitude for providing the vector for Niels.
One of your One of your band of brothers there at camp, his journey to complete cap letters surrender to the Lord. Let me tell you, this has been a prayer of mine for 15 years. Imagine that for all the ladies out there, a praying wife for 15 years. She even said the Lord told me to have faith and pray even before the marriage. And I didn't know when it would happen, but here we are with an all-caps, changed man in generational impact.
For my family, nothing better in this lifetime. The Lord is so faithful. You guys are changing lives, and may you be blessed forever. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
So, um. I'm guessing it's just our last couple of minutes here, Doug. You know, and you mentioned the word fear, you know, when they said, what are you afraid of? And, you know, a lot of times guys are afraid of how they might confront the creator of the universe, right? Or how the creator might confront them, let's say.
But, you know, you mentioned getting rid of the bitterness and the anger. And I'm guessing upon returning home that Nicole may have saw some, you know, maybe some similar changes in you, right? Yes, and you know she She says, you look lighter. Uh Different countenance about you, right? Yes, absolutely.
That's the same word that Grady used, too. And, Doug, for the record, and you've been told this, but I'll re-emphasize this, and for all our listeners out there, you know, the thing that Mark that Lex and I marvel at is what guys look like the first day they come in and what they look like upon their departure. And it's typically completely different. And I'm not telling you anything you don't know, or maybe you do know or didn't know, but you know, you had a bit of a scowl on your face, you know, when you first came to camp. But man, gosh, you were lit up on the way home, Doug.
You were absolutely lit up. What would you say in our last minute here? And take a minute, encourage a man or a wife out there, a woman listening with a special man. What would you encourage them to? Why should they come to camp?
What would you say? You need that encounter with the Lord. You need a man-to-man encounter with the Lord. through other brothers in Christ. I encourage anybody that's especially if you're getting ready to be in a leadership position in the church, and especially if you're getting ready to be in the leadership of men's ministry, I think that should be your first thing to do is go through the man camp.
'Cause it kind of sets you up with with di you know, different different tools and and absolutely. It's an image of to me, it's an image of what men's ministry should be. Mm. Gotcha, okay. Fair enough.
We get caught up with the pancake breakfast with a little devotion, we get or the wild game dinner with a you know professional celebrity wrestler or whatever professional wrestler coming in wrestlers, fishermen, whatever, right? You two personalities and so forth. Yeah, and those are fine, well, and good to make initial connections, you know, establishing relationships with us. But what happens at man camp is men's ministry on a deep level. De a deeper dive, right?
A deeper dive. And so Doug Neubauer, and I'm excited for you, Doug, and and Nicole, and for the next twenty nine years that you guys have together. And hey, if you're listening out there, you know, you're the wife, a woman with that special man, you're a man out there listening wanting to know more. About Mancamp, like man, you're inspired by Doug's story or convicted by his story. Uh, go to coloft.net, coloft.net.
Clink click the the band camp link. And uh and perhaps we do one in the spring and April, one in the fall and October. scholarships available if you're in military, if you're a first responder, law enforcement, if you're a lead pastor, and if you're none of those things and but you have a financial need, We're going to make a way. Doug, thanks for being on the show today. Oh, thank you to Hugh.
Awesome. Much appreciate it. Yes, sir. And to all of you out there, thanks for being so faithful to tune in week in and week out. My challenge to you: go out today and just have a God-filled and God-blessed day.
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