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Here is your host, Mike Zwick. Something popped up on my phone and it said there was a speed trap ahead. And I had gotten so into what she was saying that I had completely forgotten about that. And so I ended up getting a speeding ticket, but hopefully that'll that'll that'll work out as well. Oh, yeah, yeah, nothing, nothing, man.
Yeah, absolutely nothing. So but we've got him back for a second show. And so we talked about a lot of things. And and one of the things that we had talked about, Justin and Brooke is deliverance. And that's actually we have our friend Jeff here who was talking about a situation that he had encountered when he was. Was it overseas, Jeff?
When he was in Jamaica, he saw how somebody who was a Christian was actually demonized or possessed or whatever you want to call it. But, you know, it was interesting after I did the show with you, Justin, I had a dream. And in my dream, there was this little kid and he said to me, he said, you have a demon.
And I was like, oh, no. So let me call Justin. And so, Justin, I called you and we had something. It was on a Wednesday night and I went over to your house. Do you what do you remember about that? The one thing a lot of people don't they don't they don't know what to expect.
And I think you were probably in that same position. And we try to tell people, really, there's there's no expectation other than, you know, God, what do you want to do? That's the same way we are. We try to kind of relieve people's mind with that. We want to do whatever the Holy Spirit wants to do. We had a time of prayer with you.
And I think one of the most special points of that time was what we always see. And that's as we sit quietly and we wait on the Lord, he begins the Holy Spirit begins, because if I tell you, hey, I want you to start digging up this stuff from your past, then who knows if that's pulling up stuff that's already been forgiven, you know, that you've already laid to rest. But if we ask Holy Spirit, show him show us what's pertinent right now that needs to be dealt with. And and he did that, I believe. And Brooke, you weren't there, but I think you had asked if your if your son had wanted to be could come in. I said, maybe not tonight.
But the you had a friend of yours named Cameron, who was there as well. And, you know, one of the things that we talk about and we've talked about this a lot on this show is repentance. And so much of the teaching that we hear now is about grace. And by the way, I love I love grace. I thank God for his grace. But, you know, Jesus, when he came, he he was I think it was John the Baptist who had said this, but he said he's coming full of grace and truth. And so a lot of times we have this message of grace, but we don't want to share the truth and we don't want to share with people the fact that they need to repent of their sins. And I'm just going to be honest with you. I don't I don't see how you read the New Testament and see how there's no need for repentance.
What do you think, Brooke? I think repentance is where it all starts. I think that if there is no repentance, there is no salvation. There is no repentance.
There is no freedom. I always tell people I give this analogy. You know, a lot of people will say, especially in the Western world where we're at in the Bible Belt, that they're saved. And I'm like, well, what have you been saved from? And they said, well, hell. And I'm like, well, that's not the gospel.
I'm sorry. That's the consequences of your lack of response to the gospel, because people are so worried about their destination more than what they actually need to be saved from. Jesus's message was never hell. It was sin. You need to be saved from sin.
And John the Baptist's message was the same. And I think, too, I tell people all the time, you know, they'll say I'm saved. And I said, but are you still in the burning building? You know, you can be you can say you're saved. But if you called the fire department to come rescue you out of a building, but you're still in the building when they show up outside, you can't say I'm saved until they've gotten you out. You know, and I say Jesus is the fireman. He came.
It might have been two thousand years ago. But until you repent of your sins, the journey of salvation does not begin. So that's the beginning of salvation is the beginning of deliverance. And yeah, then the Holy Spirit does the rest. Yeah. And Justin, there's actually a passage and this this is the passage that really sticks out to me more than anything.
And Jesus is talking about the seed that fell on different ground. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. It's actually what I named my business after. Yeah.
For soils. I hung out in that scripture for quite a while because it encouraged me when we got into kind of ministering full time, if you want to call it, because we notice there was so many people that we were pouring into and some would receive that seed. They would receive that message and they would run with it. And then others you would pour so much time and energy and prayer into. And then it seemed like they got it. And then weeks or months later, it's like gone. And it's like they've lost that fervor. They've lost that excitement, that passion.
They've fallen back into whatever. And I remember in particular, we were we were in prayer about this because we're like, that's really disheartening. And the Lord brought it to our attention. He said, you know, if you read this portion of scripture, it gives you literal percentages of.
