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Romans Ch 11

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February 16, 2022 8:30 am

Romans Ch 11

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February 16, 2022 8:30 am

Mike and Robby the Host of the Kingdom Pursuits Podcast give us their thoughts and stories that help understand Romans Ch 11. 

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We had a smoke issue last week because of the where there's smoke there's fire. There was Weaver furniture by me know fertilizer fire that kept us from being distributed but were back and so glad that we get the chance to dive into Romans chapter 11 we did. Romans nine. Together you did chapter 10 and here we are in Romans chapter 11's in before we get into our Romans chapter 11 you and I Robbie were just talking about this and it was Wert it was Romans nine we think may tie in a little bit to this Romans 931 and it says that Israel pursuing the law of righteousness has not attained it to the law of righteousness.

Why because they did not seek it by faith. But, as it were by the works of the law for when they stumbled at that stumbling stone really mean that's that's all we really talk about on the show is that we can't make it in by our own good works and that that the only way were to make it to heaven is is by pleading the blood of Jesus by believing in him believing that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and as it says in Romans 10 nine. I was the chapter are just taking a Romans 10 nine. If you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord, it says you will be saved and so basically what I hear from him in that last part of Romans nine is that the Jews were trying to get in by their own righteousness, and they missed the boat so and I and by the way, if you if you went to synagogue today or is I do quite often listen to rabbis sermons and stuff.

I love that they have an insight into the Torah that only they have their still trying 613 Ms. foot for which they innovative got it all lined out on how they're going to to meet the criteria of salvation which is impossible to do without being connected to the vine, which is not kinda how we get over from Romans nine. Now a transition into Romans 11 were now he talks about these broken off branches yet. I mean the broken off branches and you know when when you're talking about that up in here. He got rid Romans 11 it all started in verse one. I use the new King James version. For this I say then, has God cast away his people, certainly not for I am all for I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away his people whom he foreknew or do you not know what the Scripture says Elijah how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, the Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars, and and I alone am left, and they seek my life but what does the divine response say to him.

I reserve for myself 7000 men who have not bowed the knee to bail.

Even so that it is present time there is a Rembrandt according a remnant according to the election of grace and if by grace, and it is no longer works. That's interesting no one that it is no longer works. Otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is one works if it is open works is no longer grace. Otherwise work is no longer work. What then Israel has not attained what it seeks. But the elect have obtained it in the rest were blinded just as it is written, God has given them a spirit of stupor eyes that they should not see and ears that they should not here to this very day. And David says let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a recompense to them let their eyes be darkened so that they could so that they do not see, and bow down their back always and so will stop there, but Robbie went when when you are talking about this. You said you read a book by Napoleon Hill. We stopped just short of running is urgent. Okay so what I continue. Verse 11 if I say then, had they stumbled that they should fall certainly not, but through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Now if their fall is riches for the world and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness for I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. For if there being cast away as the reconciling of the world. What will their acceptance be by life from the dead. So verse 16 for if the first fruit is holy, the lump is also holy and if the root is holy, so are the branches of some of the branches were broken off and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them and with them become a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches be but if you do, boast, remember that you do not support the root but the root support. Use a Robbie what you got.

Jesus explains to us in John chapter 15 about, you know, I'm the vine, you are the branches right and in here. You know Paul is is taking this and is taking it as an example of broken off branches will to me.

One of the things that God is been teaching me for a long time is the importance of being abiding by being in the root and so in the as I've been studying 119 Saul, there is the sonic the letter sonic in the letter. Sonic has to do with community. It has to do with being yes in unity yes and it has to do with all being on the same page and so yes I read a book by Napoleon Hill and this book was the don't think and grow Rich and the idea of think and grow Rich was just Jane yesterday said no inside. The first chapter of this book in every chapter. Thereafter is the secret to Andrew Carnegie's millions but I'm not just tell you what it is that when your mind is ready you will accept it and it's it's hidden in every chapter. The books I read read read read the book so I can finally figure out that I isolated what is this secret that Andrew Carnegie had the idea of think and grow Rich was rich spiritually.

By the way, not rich financial yeah yeah so what the secret was was this idea of abiding. Let me explain it so what what he shared was the Charles Schwab was, and I thought it was an investment banker but as it turns out he was, and still got this and they had a underperforming steel mill and that underperforming steel mill. They and I went in there right at the point in time of the ships were changing and Charles Schwab asked the guys that are coming off how many pairings of steel did you make last night which was known from his standpoint the whole. The main thing. What's the main thing. What you doing here, your post steel how interested you do last night said they did seven so he took a big piece of chalk. Don't miss this. This is unit is gigantic.

He took a beating big piece of chalk and he put it on the floor on number seven so the next shift comes in was the big seven on the floor in there like all the big bosses in here and that was only the still, you better believe that that night shift today.

Pairings in the shift.

After that did 9.the point I'm trying to make here is that the body of Christ, is it abides in Christ. It bears fruit it bears good fruit, and as the Jews see that good fruit. Lovejoy Street these patients. I kind of fruit were putting numbers down on the floor for them to look at the that it did see that we are obtaining something they know they can see it ended and I will make them jealous because they want that because they want on. That's it. They know what they really want everybody that was ever born Everhart that was made to want God. And when they actually can see Lovejoy P's patient kindness, goodness, faithfulness, don't when that happens, and I want the right as we abide as we abide in the body. Then we get on the same page. But we have to die to our self-interest right and we have to realize in and take that part into the vine to verse 19 is it continuing to talk about the branches but it says you will say then branches were broken off that I might be grafted in. Well said because of unbelief they were broken off and you stand by faith.

Do not be haughty but fear for if God did not spare the natural branches he did not spare the natural branches I he may not spare you either. I therefore consider the goodness in the severity of God on those who fell, severity, but toward you goodness if you continue in his goodness. Otherwise you will be cut off and they also if they do if they do, it says, and they also if they do not continue in unbelief. They will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again for if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature and were grafted. Contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who were unnatural branches be grafted into their own olive tree, for I do not desire brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles come in and so all Israel will be saved as it is written the deliverable come out of Zion, and he will turn away ungodliness from Jacob for this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins concerning the gospel.

They are enemies, but for your sake concerning but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of their fathers for the gifts in the what in the in the calling of God are in revocable for as you were once disobedient to God.

You have now obtained mercy through their disobedience.

Even so, these also have now been disobedient that through the mercy shown shown you.

They may also obtain mercy for God has committed them all to disobedience that he might have mercy on all O the depth of the of the riches both of the wisdom and the knowledge of God, how unsearchable are his judgments and his ways past finding out for who has known the mind of the Lord. There you go, were always asking her who has become his counselor who has git has first given to him and it shall be repaid to him for all of him and threw him into him are all things to go to him be glory forever and ever. Amen. In one of the things I was looking at that, Robbie. When I think about this when I was going back to Romans nine in its verse three and Paul says, for I could wish that I myself were cursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh who are all Israelites to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law. The service of God and the promises into what he saying there is.

He would rather go to hell he would go to hell if it meant that his fellow Jews could be saved and so you know there's a lot of just to say this, there's a lot of people who had a lot of which by the way in on that particular concept. You look back through the Scriptures and see how many times you see that that Moses rightly said you might remember Moses since scratch my name out your book of life if you will save these people you know is all idea he was willing to die and and even Esther, which, interestingly, in the Hebrew Bible and often on this book of Esther is their last book and the reason that they have it canonize that way is because from their perspective. Esther was the last person was willing to give up her life right because when she went to see King Xerxes without the right.

She could have died and she was willing to give up her life so that her people would live in and from them their standpoint that that that idea and if you look at the name of Esther just her name almost gives you this idea that it's the last light the last Transformation of light that that that would be shown to the people and so how cool is that what you described that Paul is now saying the same thing after Jesus actually did that right and actually when you think about all the disciples gave their life, their very life so that others wouldn't go to hell and and that is all part of us have the opportunity to take up the cross right and Dido ourselves is so that so that we can truly be in the vine, so that idea of the sonic again. I want to go back for minute verse 113 of Psalm 119 verse 113 just the same. When you read it at first time you also have the third do it branches. It has everything to do branches because it says vain thoughts.

Do I hate. But I law do I love. That's the verse, but if you look at the Hebrew for that word vain thoughts. It's broken off branches.

Yes, and so this name is this is coming through. When we have thoughts that I don't need margarine and oldsters really upset me that I want to do whatever it is you think you're upset and and you and you want to break off and you want to isolate right you don't realize that your your your becoming a broken off branch and and that isolation is What Is Your Hiding Pl. in Christ when you really studied the letter sonic you'll see, especially since next versus those that are my hiding place and my shield that we literally when we look at what happened. The garden of Eden when Adam sinned, right he was naked and he wanted to immediately hide. We need a place to hide. But what we where we need to hide is in Christ, in the line in order to get in the root we naturally are. I have it resent I was a kid.

Satan spends and you don't need anybody you can do this on your own right, you can make your way will the biggest need that you need to begin with is without Christ, you ain't you got up and you got mad and went apart from me you can do what you do nothing, maybe this is part of it and what would we talked about before, or that you know two groups of kids in one group of kids did their homework. The other group of kids didn't do their homework and the kids who did the homework carried the bags for both the kids who did it and did it and you would think that it didn't make any sense, but halfway up up up the hike.

The kids who didn't do their homework were going crazy because they wanted to carry their own weight and so when I provoked to jealousy right to Santos footballs. Explain yes just like that. Number seven on the floor. Yeah is provoking the other team to jealousy is there. In other words, all these things when when you we are in the body of Christ.

You're right work worker in other people's homework yeah, and Christ carries our craving. It is he is our salvation in it and it's like we until you get to the point that you really need him and that were lost and there's no way to work at it or be righteous or whatever then then you never really get it unit was interested.

We were we were going to church the other day and as we do on Sundays and so I plug my phone in and I looked down at the phone and there was no power going to my phone.

I said I plug it in. I did everything I could do and then my wife said she said Mike it has to be hooked up to the charger and and I did everything I knew how to do to get that phone charge in man but without without the source without the source of where that the charge came from.

I couldn't do it it it and maybe it's the same thing when we look at our lives and we try to do it without Christ. Good luck there that the charger is knocking to work. It's not to charge you up. And so another thing that I thought about that and we had talked about this a little bit for some time. So many people. I think they come to us as Christians and they want us to prove that Jesus Christ is the son of God and and what evidence you have or how you prove it is that the a friend of mine, Todd Todd Jordan down in a South Carolina eat. He sent me a video of a guy who says you know the date they start asking him about what what would your faith in Christ or why do you believe whatever he says. Why do you not have faith in Christ or why are you an atheist, or why do you do it and he starts to question them. I mean, in a respectful manner, but after a few minutes they realize they go. Why don't know anything and you got people who say I don't know anything and I think until you get to that point where you say, apart from Christ I have nothing, then you can't really cry out to Christ the meaning in you know and here's the other thing to this was something that I was thinking about about how he was provoking them to jealousy.

So many times. Robbie, if you're listening right now.

How many times we blog people about Jesus. Right. I give you. You have to trust in Jesus, you have to trust in Jesus, you have to trust in Jesus, and there have been times we have pastored people into the kingdom of heaven. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but so many more times people like and I don't hear this anymore get away for me. Whatever it is and you know what I when I look in the Bible Jesus said when you go out to a certain town. He says you share the gospel with him.

He says, but if they don't receive it.

He says you take your your shoes and you dust your shoes off. He says it'll be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town better factors.

And there's another part where where I think it's is it Peter Paul work where they're going in there sharing the gospel with the Jews and there.

Finally, like hey man, you guys don't get it.

He says beginning to like what he says. He says because you found yourself to be unworthy of the gospel were going to the Gentiles, the same thing worse like you know they were provoking him a jealousy and then there's 1/3. There's plenty of other examples is what the other example I was thinking with this was. There was a where there was a time when Jesus's disciples were around them, and many people who believed in him were around him and he was.

He shared something with them. That was really tough was hard for them to hear.

He said in less you eat my flesh and and and drink of my and drink of my blood. You cannot be a disciple of any said many of the many of the people who were following them left. They went away.

And you know one thing that I never saw Jesus do Robbie as I never saw him run after these people and chase them down anything you know that's kind of what we do.

But he said basically like what he's like he already knew from the beginning that some of the people working to follow him. To begin with, any report he asked Peter he says to Peter what you think I and Peter says you're the son of God but also you know I think he said to Peter, he said, will Peter usually two and he says were also really got you know so but that that's it. Manage just what it would how if you had success and we will talk about this and what where they sit in the alleys I read Peter brings up a great point right comes this idea of an obviously Romans 8 to 10. Romans nine fits in Romans 1011 and Peter right when he was thinking he had it all made me have it figured out yet.

If you vain thoughts that he could get all the stuff done in on every else falls away, to be there for you about something that's a vampire that's a broken on-ramp tractor to say what a Jesus saves Peter.

I prayed for you say most of us if you like we won't win if you have Jesus praying for you. You see, if you're in the brush.

If you're in the you have something that like out of there which paygrade is if Jesus is praying for you.

Which by the way, in Romans chapter 8 right says that the Holy Spirit is groaning with things and is groaning for what he's he's groaning for.

If you look right after that all things work together for good for those who called right and then he says, because those he foreknew he also predestined a predestined was the destination into the likeness of his son. How does that happen because the Holy Spirit knows where were groaning inside, groaning, or we don't have our act together were groaning where we are not in the likeness of his son and so through those cries right.

Just think of the benefit that you have. If you get into this fine I through those grounds, the Holy Spirit in what you said. I don't know anything.

I don't know anything. I'll be the first person to tell you that there you know God chose me these things and I'd sit there and wonder what I can see as man. I got the Holy Spirit groaning for me because he knows of this nation for me is to be made into the likeness of his son and and through that right we get to be in divine and and and as as people see that in your life. It it is a number on the floor. This provoking people to jealousy that they may or may not think they know they want that and it was one of those things that even for me and my remember my first went to Sunday school. My wife, the very first on salsa car salesman you not understand this being an insurance salesman, you're always looking for somebody's. I was looking for the angle right and always people are feeling really nice to me. They didn't want to buy a car and I was like Tammy wanted these people just seemed really care about really really had that idea of grace, and you saw no reproach in there. I know judging you because your car salesman and that means a lot. Yeah it does it does it work they were looking at shoot down and in some way.

They were just like there was grace and through that grace. I was like man.

These people have something I want and that jealousy provoked me to to like how can I get connected because I'd come through salvation through the Bible, but I had no community.

I had no son I had. I was a broken off branch of some extent because you need the body of Christ. I love the way you do mention going to church on their forget pastor court sameness and it always comes to me. He says well you don't need to go to church in order to get to heaven he said but you don't need to get to England if you know you don't need a boat in order to get to England, but it is a very long swim tray M is the same thing you want to get to heaven without the churchmen absent along without going to church. It's a long swim close out with this and think about first Peter 315 and this is the verse that they use for apologetics, but it says but in your hearts regard Christ the Lord is holy ready at any time to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is within you on, you know it's interesting you know what when he saying if anybody asks you for a reason for the hope it doesn't say you need to go up to them and bug whatever. I wonder if he saying that maybe our lives should be so filled with the Holy Spirit so filled with Jesus and his love that people actually come up to us and say what's going on and that that is the deal and you know that the idea again of the full armor were the you might remembrances your feet are supposed be fitted with the gospel of peace. That's how do you run right and you might remember David when he was on the wall and they were 2 Runners Coming His Way because his son and been killed right but as those runners came this all that's a he's a fellow he's a good man who runs like he has good news when you see that messenger, are you running like you have good news. Jesus Christ is the goodness sick, we would ask that you would pray with you have had that experience of knowing what it's like to have love enjoy most things in your life with Jesus coming from my sin. I believe that you are the son of God and the I come in your life and I just want to thank one of our sponsors a greater love world outreach Center over in Burlington North Carolina at 537 S. Ireland St. they have services Sunday at 1030 in the morning and they have a Wednesday night service at seven pastor Ron Harris.

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