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October 20, 2021 12:30 am
Tiger and Alaina Hebert are back to talk to Mike about the miraculous healing they experienced in their lives.
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If not for God with Mike Swick have my good friends Tiger and Alayna Hebert were a bareback again today and am excited to have them back again. We could've touched on this a little bit on the last segment about secessionism and also about healing. Knowing God about how you can have a personal relationship with God.
I wanted to dig into this a little bit more today is better Fatima pullout John chapter 10 and will start in verse 35 it says if he called them gods, to whom the word of God came in the Scripture cannot be broken. Do you say of him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world. You are blaspheming because I said I am the son of God. If I do not do the works of my father do not believe me but if I do that you do not believe me, believe the works that you may know and believe that the father is in me and I in him, and even after that he said therefore they sought again to seize him, but he escaped out of their hand in verse 39 so you know it's interesting when I read that Tiger washer. We were talking a little bit about the cessation cessation is a movement actually looked into that a little bit last night and a lot of that started it was with the reform movement, with John Calvin and what a lot of these folks say is that yeah Jesus and the disciples on the apostles.
They had all these great works but it stopped in the first century and in we were just talking a minute ago and I was think about. I said, Jesus says right there in that verse John 10. I think it's 38.
He says if I don't do the works that don't believe me but if I do the works that then believe me and and so you know if someone is out there and they don't believe that they can pray for somebody and that God will use that person to heal them and to show them that he is real, then there really losing one of the tools that they have to share the gospel but we think Tiger absolutely there's a whole number of different ways that you can approach this Scripture tells us to not just be hearers, but be doers of the word. And if you going to script even if you just going to the Gospels. If you go into Matthew 28 verses 18 through 20. I read that real quick and Jesus came and said to them all authority in heaven and honor has been given to me go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold I am with you always, to the end of the age. So that's one if you go ahead over into Mark. I'm not to read a bunch just to hear Mark chapter 16 verses 17 and 18 and again this is the great commission. Again, just in a different gospel says Jesus and these signs will accompany those who believe in my name they will cast out demons. They will speak in new tongues, they will pick up serpents with their hand and if they drink any deadly poison.
It will not hurt them. They will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover. That doesn't seem very ambiguous. To me it doesn't and he said those signs will accompany those who believe all believers all believers. So that's something that it is something he's given us. We been given the power and the authority would been given that the dude in this and the exist you get into the Greek guess that means we have the power and the authority to operate in that power and we been commissioned in the great commission, we been given the authority to the great commission of Jesus Christ to go and do these things and he says if you are believers in need these signs should accompany you write so it's ready pretty clear and asked pretty much the end of both of those Gospels. There's no footnotes afterwards reduce it. Okay you can stop now or in 100 years. It's all the stops, the yeah you are actually telling me the other night last night Tiger that you still like winter. You asked me when did you get to a point in your life for you. I think it's where you knew God or were you just you never went back and I really thought about it and I said what was in my late 20s and I believe it was in 2008 and I was finishing up planning my day. The next day for for work and I only had one sheet of paper left in my folder to sell insurance and asked and I don't know what maybe do this but it was the Holy Spirit was the Holy Spirit most of it was the Holy Spirit that told me to do this in and I was sitting there and I said God show me something and so I opened up that same notebook that same folder that only had one sheet of paper and now there were two sheets of paper in that folder and so me being the great faith filled person that I that I was of course I said God show me one more time and so I close the folder again and I opened it up and now there were, instead of being two sheets of paper. There were now three sheets of paper and and and really a rumor. After that, never really had any doubts anymore, but I know Lena, you said there was a store you want to share on it. We've had yeah we have seen that paragon even before we get on the tree completely and you many years ago. Another teenager had a whole bunch of on female SU where I had a lot of pain. I was seeing a doctor pretty much monthly and down eight. It was initially. It went on and I overate that would pop at each month and I'm 14 years old. I'm going through that and now as I get older and I become about 17 and now turned in endometriosis which is a really painful thing. Sometimes they can be moderate and can be severe court that had a severe case and it was to the point where the pain would hit me that I couldn't agree it was so sharp. I literally couldn't read that eyewitness in school on depression kick Daniel all kind of stuff was going on.
I was a really thick cycle on that. I would then I gather that and the doctors were telling a set fertility is not can be something you can do it. You can have you not be able to have children with this disease care.
We can just use certain things we can do procedures to try to minimize the pain, the kind of thing.
So I believe them. I been told that I was having problems and I probably would have children thinking here is that I just went on with life that I wouldn't be a mother and I would just travel and have a career. It is not an Seo on when I gave my my like you are about 20 kale. I wasn't even asking the Lord. I got my first back and I was 23 and after the fact we had a celebration that date and get I went to bed and I had a dream. It was a dream and I the Lord actually healed me. He, on pain and he actually healed me and when I woke up I felt like I didn't need to take my pills anymore. That was taking to stop you know things are happening to cause pain.
I felt like I should take on and so I just talk and I never took him again. I really like healed that what I thought was a dream. It really was not he get yummy Natalie that I mean I wasn't able to have kids you need. Three. Try for any of them healed me from the endometriosis. He also made me fertile. He created that ability.
He can't he perform the whole thing that thou I have my children because of the Lord in his healing. I have my children know it's amazing and he's done so many trees in our life, healing, and before I even knew you know how to scan on the word of God how to pray how to really do these things effectively. This was before. This is good net and he loved me so much that he did not need to be in bondage literally couldn't live my life because of the pain it really knocked me from being able to lead and he and change that and healed me because it has laws while you actually settle into there was a story. Years later, we had an autoimmune disease. I'm glad you years ago after I had my children on my third child, my endocrine system nosedived after I had hand and had a lot of issues that happen afterwards with my endocrine system will anyways. It turned into an autoimmune disease, or so Dr. said I was getting to the point where my body had kinda started to shut down my my stomach wasn't being produced. I would eat a few raisins a day that with it which it and I was absorbing attrition and I was that I was how to get IDs for just fighting to get in and like to think that I was actually absorbing vitamin I'm getting a $500 IDs each week to try to just give me essential and I knew that that wasn't the way I with the put belief that that wasn't God's will for me.
So anyway, after I'm going through that I can't sleep I get up in the mill that I am tired.
My sleep is affected by that and in the mill the night I get I don't have documents crying and yelling at her and clearly he said you know you and I you might as well get your will. In order because you're knocking to make it through this and your kids are to grow up just like you without their mother and I love my mother. 14. And so I'm thinking you know I'm taking a stand. I'm crying about it.
I'm looking to him for a minute here. I'm tired and in the Lord comes right behind him and said you have to fight this up here and I knew when he set up here. I knew he meant by his word and his life is that you have to fight this up. Here are your knocking away. He said you will get beat and so I got up off the floor. I decided to scan on the word of God.
I decided to stop doing the doctor stubbed IDs and all the things that they were working were just taking my money on it was not doing anything for me and so I just started skinny on the word of God. I started to learn teaching that were true, then how to pray with effectiveness and how to seek and figure healed into the word of God and seek over your body and that God's way is much better.
His supernatural way is much better than natural natural. I'm thinking here think sure, but there's times where you have to bet you have to do this by the word of God because it is a excellent way and the only way sometimes my situation where that was the only loud and when that is awesome is matter fact lulling me that that is amazing that I was looking at first Corinthians chapter 1 and I was thinking about this while you were talking first Corinthians 1 verse 20 says where's the wise words describe where is the disputer of this age has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world.
For since in the wisdom of God the world through wisdom, did not know God it please God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe for Jews request to sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified to the Jews a stumbling block into the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God. Wisdom of God because the foolishness of God is wiser than men. The weakness of God is stronger than that. And so you know if you if you told that to a doctor or me that they only look at you like you're crazy or they would've just said you know you're lucky or something like that or whatever but it's not God is true that Mike I know that if I would've listened to the enemy, I would have died. I really do because there was nothing working in my body was nothing saying I would if I would've listened to him. I don't want think right be right now. I had to choose life had to make a decision and choose life, that is also is matter fact you know Tiger, it's it's really cover miraculous situation. Were you actually even became a Christian, you are in the military is a right yeah yeah so you know I mentioned before, I did not grow up church.
I didn't grow up with good manual women of God as examples. I was major and it really anything I thought I was the God of my own life. I was trying to do my own things and get as far away from my family as possible to carve out a life for myself and I was in the Air Force, I was 20 years old or something like that and I remember I was. I was even able to do my original job that I went into the notary for I was stuck in the tool shop where I had to rent out tools to people wasn't happy about it and there was this one guy who would come in every day and he was so different than everybody else and he was weird and people made fun of them, but man, you just he would be like. I love you. Hope you're having a great day God bless you and you would say all these Christian needs things right, but I wasn't used to that whatsoever. But he really just took an interest in me and he would really just try to connect with me and I was like one of those Jesus people.
I'm just not really into that will I just was polite for him because he was so nice couldn't help it but I really didn't want have anything to do with the conversations that made me really uncomfortable. Well when I got removed from the tool shop and actually was given the opportunity to go work on the aircraft like I was supposed to.
I got assigned to work with him and so I worked with him and another young guy much. Every night, 12, 13 hours and I were on a shift and he just showed compassion towards me as a person to get to know me, but he preach the gospel and he was always talking about how great Jesus was. I thought he is not dead, but he was the nicest person I have ever met, and everybody would like our managers did too many drugs.
This is not all there because he was so different he was so countercultural, everything that we were exposed to and I became friends with them and I would let him preach to me like just as we were friends but I wasn't trying to go and become a Christian. I think and he asked me. He asked me when you come to church method all go one day and every time he would show up in my dorm room or call me. I would say today is not that day he showed up one night and he knocked on my door open the door. He said get your shoes on were going to party you tell me is not the day. I called my shoes that I remember get in the car and I said I'm not giving him any money building looking at me like it's your problem know what your body is like are not given of any money so we went into the church and it was really weird of the Pentecostal church and I've never even know what was filled out with all things, but the people are all like greeting me out the door and I'm literally held my hand over my whole perception I had a piece that will I normally sit in the front row.
I said will not tonight were sitting in the back row because when things get weird. I want to leave laugh and in the very back row and they I guess the assistant pastors up there. He's preaching a sermon and if you if you ever been to Pentecostal service.
It felt like it was a four hour service right he's preaching and going on and on and on like Will this dude ever shut up. I'm ready to leave and he did an altar call at the very end and the Holy Spirit grabbed a hold of me in a way that I didn't even know was a thing.
And next thing I know I'm trying to get out of the pew. My friends, what were you doing what you okay what's wrong I said shut up, way I got into the aisle and next thing I know I'm walking up to the front and I don't even like her so many emotions going on to me.
I didn't even pay attention to the sermon and I had all these thoughts like they're looking at you you not wearing the right outfit you don't have a suit on, you know, and I had all these thoughts only turn around go back and I could not propel the front and I think I was always in the back of us to move about scoping out the second person at the altar, and there was a young girl up there fusion given me and she is she was choosing to accept Jesus. She just broke down and she was weeping and I was just a few feet away from her and their praying over her and she's receiving the Lord and I remember saying is inside of myself. I heard myself say the most beautiful thing I've ever seen and I need that and so they turned to me as other provision laid the pastor of the Minnesota returns to me next to me said, son.
Are you ready and I said yes I am and I just I accepted the Lord right then and there and I don't necessarily recommend this to everybody but I literally started repenting of everything I could think of the old church.
I just I had giant date.
I had to just lay it all down for the Lord and was no was 20 years ago now, thank God. And you guys are still going out to Walmart in baseball games, and just about everywhere else in sharing the gospel books you did want to touch on something really quickly. Having the we were talking about this last night where there's a verse in the Bible where Jesus actually comes out. He said.
Hertz John 114. Here it is, says the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and the only son from the father full of grace and truth that I think we do a pretty good job in the church today of preaching grace and that is also made you know.
Thank God for his grace. Thank God that you know he know if we repent from our sins and we turn away from them and in we turn to Jesus that he forgives us our sons and not affect the Old Testament says he won't even remember them. He remembers them no more. Unfortunately, I think sometimes in the American church, we kinda leave that last part out and truth and so even in the more conservative churches were used to see this 1020 years ago. You're seeing them not talking about turning away from your sin not talking about living a holy and a righteous life.
Is that important. Absolutely there's a couple scriptures that just jump out right away about sending I have my own opinions about writing the word first. If we spirit in first John we go over to 63 chapter 3 verse eight whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil.
The devil has been sinning from the beginning.
The reason the son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. If you go back into Hebrews chapter 10 verse 26 this is for if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin. If you get into think it's maybe John 15 John 1415. It talks about divine the father is the vine dresser. Jesus is the vine we are the branches. We must remain in the vine. We must bear fruit if if we are not abiding. If we are separator for not bearing fruit. We are cut off and we are cast into the fire. Risa Scripture is very clear. There is a hyper grace message this going on and it's not the gods up there waiting for us to mess up so he can smite us.
That's, that's not it does not initiate is used to listen this stuff is destructive this stuff, this sinful nature wants to put you into bondage. It wants to separate you from me.
It wants to send you down the walk the wrong road. It wants to send you to a path of destruction for the wages of sin are depth, I have created a way for you to come to me. The father I have given you my son the way, the truth, the life he is the path to the father and he has given us his son so that we can come to him so we can come boldly to the throne of grace. Grace I think is so good that you brought this up grace is a gift from God to give us the ability to stop sinning. It's not to be just forgiven all of this into continue it's the power to be free. Scripture tells us over and over again that sin is bondage. It it makes us a slave. So we are going to be a slave in life to one of two things everybody.
Everybody was listening to this message, you are a slave to one of two things. You are either a slave to sin or you are a slave to righteousness, and I'll tell you one of those actually comes with a whole lot of freedom that comes with love. It comes with power.
It comes with joy. The other one not so much on the truth is nowadays in the culture. They don't want to call since then. Nobody once even acknowledged that it even being a real thing. And the truth is when you do that and you take away send people's ability to recognize that there anything you are annulling and bleeding are devaluing what Christ did, because Christ died on the cross for our send and if were not to call since anymore allow people to do whatever feels good in their heart.
Basically taking away what Jesus said were taken were taken. The value out of it yeah is matter fact I'm looking here at Mark Motz using Matthew chapter 13 and verse three. Then he spoke many things to them in parables, saying, behold, a sower went up so and as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside and the birds came and devoured them. Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth, and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth.
But when the sun was up, they were scorched because they had no root they withered away in some fell among thorns and the thorns sprang up and choked them, but others fell on good ground and yielded a crop. Some a hundredfold, some 60, some 30. He who has ears, let him hear it you know what I when I look at that uncle reminded so many times I think in inner Christian circles, especially probably the last 50 years we've been taught to make a decision for Christ and to say yes to Jesus and to hate go up to the front and get saved in and the problem with that is is that for many people they go why they say a prayer. That's it. And then they never really never really close. Did you not all of them but some of them. They never live their life close to Jesus, but they say no I'm fine because 30 years ago I said a prayer. Yeah, they're not walk in and out or not walking out the freedom because the Lord tell the walk out our salvation with fear and trembling. He said work that out.
You have to wipe the prompt that and it not one dime not you said a prayer it's walking out that one thing that my healing taught me when I was healed from the autoimmunity I'm still alive today that the word of God have to be the absolute you have to either you have to choose what you believe you can't be in the world with that medical system and believing that Dr. Emily got in trying to get a lot there. Contrary to each other. I'm knocking Dr. evil. Don't go see him not saying that. But if you're in a believing the real healing at the word of God talks about and by the word of God. What heals you and that is your absolute and execute you medicine to counteract that that side effect the world system got the word God doesn't do that. Yeah, one other thing you know talking about this exact thing that no kind of the sinners prayer one and done, you know, fire insurance, things so we one of the places we've been studying in our weekly Bible study is in Luke nine I think it says it really well. In Luke 923 through 24 six and are you real quick, says, and he said to all if anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me, or whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. That's a matter fact you know when you're when you're talking about that. I am reminded that were not talking about perfection, I'm not perfect tiger. You're not perfect when you're not perfect but it does say I believe in the book of Proverbs it says that a righteous man or woman falls down seven times, but seven times, they rise again. So another warning when we mess up we get we asked for forgiveness and we get up we get up we get up and then we asked the Lord to help us with the sun by watching talks about confessing your faults one to another, I know why I've had times where I've said hey guys I'm struggling with this and you guys been loving about it and it helped because I was obeying the word of God, and I know you guys do that as well and unfortunately were about out of time but II think you guys again for coming on but I'll finish up with this it's Hebrews 4 verse 12 and it says for the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the hearts and that of the thoughts and intents of the heart and so when I read that I'm reminded of what you guys were saying that the lane aware that God is more powerful than any medicine God is more powerful than any doctors.
Matter fact all healing comes from God and like your son not saying good with Dr. dilemma. I'm not saying that what I am saying is this is who are you can trust or you can trust the world for you to trust God is matter fact or you know we were talking about this before, 366 times in the Bible it says do not fear do not hear and I know we were talking about this like people. Some people are scared of COBIT. I mean it and I'm not saying it's not a real thing or anything like that but once again, I think this is maybe a test for a lot of people who were you to trust you. Trust that God will heal you. Do you trust that God is the author of everything offered the offer of like the giver of life and the creator and if you do believe that just trust in him and do not worry in an guys.
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