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September 15, 2021 12:00 pm
Mike is joined once again by Sharon Hungerford to discuss spiritual warfare. Plus, Truth Network founder and president Stu Epperson Jr. joins the show.
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Enjoy it and share it but most of all, thank you for listening and for choosing the truth network. This is the Truth Network welcome to If Not for God stories of hopelessness that turn to hope. Your host Mike Zwick God with Mike today I had my very special Bible study that we have on Saturday and she's grown into a personal personal friend.
She's big on aliyah I'm getting the Jewish people back to Israel on. She is a huge supporter of Israel, and she's also really, really experienced in what we know as spiritual warfare. We've also got Stu Epperson the owner of the truth network.
We got him him right here and a student who is actually going to be. He's gotta run here in a little bit but I still can you tell us about spiritual warfare is a broad topic a lot it really just got through studying the book of acts were Paul is in house arrest, chained to a soldier and during that two-year period is talked about in acts chapter 28 versus 30 and 31 Paul God through the inspirational in spirit and through the pen of Paul gave us the book of Ephesians. Also, Colossians, also Philippians also Philemon. But the book of Ephesians E describes the spiritual warfare which I know will come up with his sister Hungerford here briefly here little bit some I can still your thunder but just as idea of take on the whole armor of God, there is a there's a very real sense were we are to arm ourselves daily for war. He says it over and over again.
He says we wrestle not against flesh and blood. There's there's this unseen valley gives two or three strata level of spiritual warfare of spiritual enemies that were attacking their attacking us all the time, kingdoms and principalities and powers and rulers of the darkness of this in a world if you look in that the Greeks are different levels and so they're very organized enemies very organized enemy has a plan.
The enemy has a plan and any basically wants believers to shut up about the gospel so he will attack you and say you're not worthy to share the gospel you are you you hit you with your past it which point we should always bring up his future, but we rarely do because we get so depressed and bombed, but we have to realize that 2.5 billion people on planet Earth don't have Jesus and don't have the gospel have never heard the gospel. So when you have two half-billion who've never heard the gospel.
That's not my problem with the enemy wants me to be so lost in my is a Christian in my problem so narcissistic and so in the struggle and so he doesn't want me to focus on my neighbor who doesn't have Jesus at all. Who's on his way to a burning hell somewhere here to share the good news.
That's why this program. If not for God is so important as you make Jesus.*The Truth Network we bring Christ into the center so there. Paul is chained to a Roman soldier writing things like the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation. He's looking at a soul as easily. It is bright shining sword leaning against the wall there that that that that is the soldier's name whoever he was Julius Caesar classic Israeli guy's name was his leg and his stories as she always is breastplate he's writing to us this amazing gift of Ephesians 6 and the armor of Almighty God, in its Ephesians 612 through 13 for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand in.
So when you're talking about the stupid it kind of reminds me that how can we be ready to win a battle if if we don't even know that there's a battle to be one that we don't even know that there's a battle to be fought because there's many people out there and people who call themselves Christians to don't even believe in the devil don't even believe in and it's like it. I mean if you don't even know it is the devil he's trying to ease try to beat you and you have to realize the good news is, though, is that it says in Scripture that greater is he that is within you than he that is within the world that's exactly right. And you know the key to the whole text by way Ephesians 6 is not each faculty and all those are very important and is not that prayer thing by the way, another piece of armor that I hope you get into his 19 and 20.
No one talks about that I know what good is a Lamborghini with no gas in it right. What good is a nice brilliant suit of armor without a night inside of it to fight right. Prayer is the fuel that drives at Cartwright prayer is everything a connexus got so that some you're getting into. I know. But here's what's passing the most key three key most important words in the whole passage of Ephesians 6 and spiritual warfare are in verse 10 in the Lord.
Those three words in the Lord read verse 10 you have it up. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of his is a got my in and share and we were talk about this a little bit before you know we we you are. You said you seen some supernatural stories of where you know you seen the demonic and then the Lord overcome it and stuff like that you said that sometimes people just focus on the demonic, and especially PC. This probably wouldn't really think that the sensationalism and then they may forget the part that that God is great and you said two thirds of the Angels did not fall right two thirds did not fall absolutely and say, wait, wait, they need to focus on what God is doing in his power and his mind and and get our eyes off yourself and you know is Jesus going to be the Lord of our lives is the one that defeats these powers and principalities a minimal username that it just to protect identities everything but I tell a quick story. Ellen was a missionary in a remote village in Africa and she had just gotten there and the witch Dr. hated everything that she was about and people coming into her home getting saved, and she was there to support the planting a church to train leaders to translate the Bible and the neighboring village has it had a really rough set of people who their soul passion was to destroy Christians and when they heard that she had moved in. They were they paid her a visit in the middle of night. One night, and they showed up to her house. Five or six of them with rods and things they're gonna tear things over to steal things. Kaylee is my good and they were going to hurt dude put a hurting on her and maybe even kill her. They showed up and there was a massive man standing in her doorway. Okay holding a massive rod can and these men who were who were bent on in program to terrorize people and create fear. They were scared for their life in a solemn they took off they came back the next night, same time. That same dude is out there huge man with a huge huge rod and they took off and they were they had fear so they decided to play it nice so the next day they they dressed up nicer in the had there been no they mind their manners and they knocked on her door very gently and said we need to talk to you and she's okay will get well and talking about Jesus and in the end she has a man and they say we have five we were just happened happening in through town and we saw his smacks of man that was out there and we just want to know who he is. Is he connected with who, what, are you a part of me — what is this all about, will she share the whole gospel with them and at the end of the gospel presentation. She said I don't know who your talk any line that fits that description. But I do serve the Lord of hosts is and I am his child and no weapon at fashion against me shall prosper.
That's her so just a cool story about someone who we know it believes in the armor of God, and who like our dear sister Hungerford. Here is a prayer warrior and was not it all thrown off by these these gains. It no one to kill her because she knew God patina protecting it would protect her and he in that it's a great and that a great story, so it isn't, and we actually have Bible study this past weekend was really good it was. We celebrate my birthday and I insurance it will Michael Reagan to do a chapter from the Bible today and I was thinking of course we are. So when I was looking at was chapter 4 verse 12 it says for the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart, and I think some people are so afraid of the demonic, but the chair you actually face the demonic face-to-face and you put on the full armor of God, you have a story about that well out of party shared one story where a foster child in my home, took a knife in demons were telling him to kill me.
And the Lord gave me a vision afterwards because he came within 5 feet of me and started filing and can get any closer and my husband had prayed Lord beat Marshfield. I rearguard a wall of fire about essence and we never really thought literally that he would be our shield that he stood there like Jimmy vision that with the nail scarred hand and literally as a shield in front of my body and that night and I just saw the wrath of Satan in that knife going into that scar and it went about me. It went met this young man. It was about Satan, hatred, Satan had Jesus and what he's done and so I also have other stories to a young lady who had gotten involved with the site and call it what her felt she was born adopted into it. All things and we this is just learning about spiritual warfare and said the demons were literally biting her and she was like laying on her couch and and wouldn't know it today and say hey it's at Lord, have your Angels starter ever and we bind Jesus name and literally wastes all pain. We didn't see the Angels but we saw the result of any Angels turning her however she wasn't moving, trying to turn around. She wasn't coming. She was like rotated and and then she stood at me.
She didn't stand that when she sat and was acting like she was bound and we went inside a bit totally changed our prayer life completely, and you've done counseling. Yes yes I work with a lot of people a lot. I mean even ask believers we have strongholds in our life. People are willing to talk about strongholds, but they're not willing to talk about the demons that cows the strongholds that most of us face demonic struggles and strongholds in her life and so in a way been enough counsel for years and I hate Satan I hate how he tries to destroy guns to kill, steal and destroy our life. John 1010 that Jesus came that we might have life and have it more abundantly, and said that there's two different Greek words for the word life in John 1010, 10, 11, 15 and 17 but the first is I came that you might have life. It's as though a life. It's like that emanates from God, it's about the very breath.
The room lock of guide and and then the next Scripture says I came, Jesus is saying.
I came and lay down my life with that word is Sue K. Which means if we had an English word, it would be sold. So not only was a spirit but Jesus did we talk about his death and how that paid for our sins, but he also lived every day where our Salazar mind will and emotions we get the word psychology from the word CK which is the study of the mind, will and emotions and and so Jesus lived every day thinking God's thoughts and obeying and making decisions that were honoring to God and said, and then his emotions were lined up with the perfect will of God and and so what Jesus has done for us. He lived that life. That perfect life. So what were talking about Sharon was his John 1010, it says the thief comes only to steal, kill and destroy. I have come so that they might have life and have it more abundantly. And then he says I am the good shepherd. The shepherd lays down his life for the sheep and you said spiritual warfare can happen anywhere. You may even sometimes on the radio.
Yes, I just had trouble with my thoughts and gotten grass the next thought and actually when we were in a prayer meeting in our home. My son was young and had the same situation where I just lost my thoughts and he said I thought a demon on a bicycle stealing your words from you and so we can unite a lot of times we just think wafer mess up or we forget that.
Actually, it can be the demonic coming against us. And I was telling you another story on the way when I was young my father cursed God cursed his name and I would just hear this barrage of cursing going off in my head and I thought I must be an evil wicked person because I knew I didn't feel that way about God.
And then I learned that the demonic kin just flit around GUN and put these thoughts and that's called a tracing counter and says I had freedom I got freedom and that in and I could use the word deliverance by understanding the trait that the enemy was put in his thoughts in my hand every thought that we have is not from ourselves the enemy can but thought sand that we also can have thoughts from God and say this is always getting freedom and just keep looking at Truth Network yeah and this radio station that's continually putting God's Word and truth out there and just very grateful. I have you on another factor says in James four sentences, submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you and so hurts would explain it one time they said that if if the devil keeps on trying to come against you and come get you and you continually resist him in and he realizes that he's not getting anywhere with you.
Take his time and energy and go somewhere else that hurts a real say yeah, the devil will flee, but sometimes will also come back and so we also have to be ready on the verse and were talking about this this morning is Proverbs 2416 it says for the righteous man or woman may fall seven times. He still gets up, but the wicked stumble in bad times and so you had to fight spiritual warfare in your life.
Is that right absolutely every damning I have stepped over three copperheads. I mean enemies and trying to take me out. My entire life in just theories. Sickness a couple times and certainly the young man to understand me and said God hates coming to cut last May that Satan hates and I'm glad he hates me now I feel like I'm doing what God wants.
I love to undo his kingdom and so you are just talking about the resistance that's another form of deliverance is when we resist the devil and he will flee and will only day that only I mean it's all about faith in who God is. So if we don't know who God is. How Reagan resist the devil yeah yeah we were watching little clip of a rocky to earlier this morning we were on the way over here and in clip it was was Apollo Creed and his dad was over there yet all his managers over there as well. They were going to promote the next fight and Apollo Creed said was that he said that he said you think I will, and the fight is that Connie got quiet and he said he said we will in the decision. He's like yeah he's in that policy yeah but I lost the fight. I did it when I die, one of the decision according to the blood that I lost the fight and he didn't wanted to. He wanted to fight rocky and everybody was saying no need to fight somebody else the skies above the skies that you know you don't need to worry about this is that but what would his dad ended up coming up to him and he said look real reason you don't fight this guy is because I've never seen you beat anybody like you beat this guy, he said, but the guy just kept coming back up and kept coming back after you kept coming back and I feel like that sort of the resiliency that we have to have as Christians is that we have to realize, yes, there is spiritual warfare. Yes, the devil is going to try to stop us from doing something great. If we're doing something right and I know you been doing it for years and years, but greater is he that is within you than he that is within the world so that when we keep on rising up like Proverbs 2416 says I think double doubles, like that guy's dad was like this guy just keeps coming back. He discovered that I feel like maybe sometimes we can go where the devil out you would set another time he said there was actually another lady was actually a mental health worker and something about a snake. He said she was going to counseling people and I don't want to give away any details at all that there's a whole evil world and set of Satanism out there and this woman probably didn't even know she had any demonic issues going on, but she ended up on the floor like a snake trying to hit us at us and and and is you and even aware say I'm not saying that stray from his full face purposely because Christ is in us that you know a lot of that wouldn't happen to most believers.
But when there's a cultic activity involved in people's lives. Things can coming and I've heard think we talked about this that that that the devil cannot possess a Christian cannot physically but but he can certainly lease really mess with using the yes aggression right if you're a believer you cannot be possessed by Satan that would imply ownership. If you belong to Jesus here under his under ownership and but Christians can be harassed and actually I don't do deliverance with non-Christians because of the Scripture that where Satan it when she sweep the house clean. Satan can come in and out. The demon will go and get seven more even stronger. It's way Christians have issues in their life and it to me comes under legal right. What gives the enemy a legal right to harass you its unconfessed sin. Unconfessed sin is the problem. So if we confess our sins not only individual sins, but corporate sands, which is another issue that generational sands, particularly things that have gone back if he looked it up in your family history, and some ice committed suicide for generations or somebody has gotten divorced for generations and and in those sands haven't been under you never confessed in first John 19 is if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us of all unrighteousness. And that's our ticket.
That's our key to getting free from all the stuff the enemy might come and tempt us but if we are resisting that his temptations were set free, and it even says that it says I tell you to not sin. But if you do send that we we all said that at that.
If you do center you do something that you're not supposed to do that, he is faithful to forgive us, but we have to humble ourselves and asked for forgiveness.
Is that right absolutely, absolutely. So we got in so we got about three minutes left with the before we go I do want to discuss this a little bit. You are a big supporter of Israel in there is a lot of stuff in Israel right now that's going there and stemming thing are dealing with Comed in the vaccine. Just like we are, but they also have what the incinerate blends, never from God's. I'm burning up a lot of the land and specially crops and then they've got Hezbollah in Lebanon in Iran.
Of course, is the biggest problem and who is inciting these other Terrace grapes and so they've actually had a couple of rockets from Lebanon said every front, it seems, is that what I do an essay where all in this situation where were experiencing birth pains. But it's to purify the church and so we are being purified and we need to stand against the enemy. We do need to stand up in the good news is that we talk about this, but the good news is that when persecution comes God's glory comes when persecution comes on, we have a greater protection and in and I like what you said about there's two thirds angels who did not fall in that you know you had many times in your life would use you stepped on snake River. One time he said that you were actually dying, and then Pastor Ron Harris prayed for you and the pancreatic attack on gallstone and month got stuck in that team that was in the hospital and all I remember I was out for five days and remember five days for pastoring cane and prayed and next thing I remember I was being transferred to a different hospital. I felt – being peeled off me and and it was after you hear all these stories about how really realized Jesus tells us not to worry not to worry God is to take care of us. God is to take care of us. We made cutie.
We may have tough times but made the end of the season with. We went with so that Sharon were so glad to have you on and we know check out any time managing these turbulent times.
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