Golf With Jay Delsing - - Finding The Green

25 years on the PGA Tour and a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America, Jay Delsing brings you his perspective on one of the world's greatest games as a professional golfer and network broadcaster.

It's the game that connects the pros and the average Joes brought to you by Whitmore Country Club. Golf with Jay Delsing is now on 101 ESPN. Good morning St. Louis and welcome to Golf with Jay Delsing on 101 ESPN. I'm your host Jay, I've got John Perlis with me, good morning Perli.

Good morning Jay, I love that opening. 25 years, you ever think of how many rounds of golf you've played in 25 years? You know there's something on my website, my old website, we used to have how many different golf courses I've played and how many miles I've actually walked and this is stunning. No wonder every part of my body hurts.

I think at last count and this was several years ago, I was at 61,000 miles. That's amazing but you say your body hurts, I know when we're out there sometimes the things that beat you up the worst are sitting on the airplanes, on and off the airplanes, in and out of the rental cars, in and out of the hotels. So the golf is tough on it no question because you guys are doing something you know really stressing your body out but I would contend those others had at least as much to do with the aches and pains. No question about it our first segment is we have formatted the show like around the golf so the on the range segment is formatted by my friends at 20 minutes of fitness. 20 minutes of fitness once a week, 20 minutes of fitness that's all you need it works for me and you know if it hasn't if it wouldn't be for somebody like 20 minutes to fitness or some sort of exercise program, man I could have never never played nearly as long as I did. And it would be cool if you would have started that 25 years ago. What 20 minutes of yes I started all of the wrong stuff 25 years ago and now 20 minutes of fitness is trying to save me and it's not they're saving I know they're saving me but I don't know if they're they could keep the rate up as we continue.

They can't turn the clock back exactly then they're just holding that handle down so it doesn't keep moving. No they can't well we've got a great show for you today let's go straight away to our friend Justin Hoagland at GOLFTEC. Justin is a fellow PGA of America member and professional and city manager for GOLFTEC. So let's let's jump in with Justin. Okay that's great stuff from Justin and I'm excited about this show. We have got the first half of the David Farity interview and um man I think people are gonna love this thing. I was so excited when you got him I mean I don't know that people realize how many incredible interviews you're gonna have on this show but I'm not sure how many are gonna be better than David Farity. Yeah it's interesting I mean when you think about a whiteboard you know where a whiteboard you know where there's nothing on it and you do your prep because you you know you want to be respectful to your guests and you want to be informed and you want to make this interview sound right and and sound meaningful and I think I mentioned even to him I'm like I've prepared for this and I feel so unprepared because you just never know where he's gonna go. Why do you think he's so popular Jay?

What what are what's is there a formula here? What is it that gets us? Well when I'm with him I always tell him it's his fake accent that fake Irish accent but um we all know it's um there's nothing fake about that Irish accent but he um you know what I I think it is it's his candor he is extremely upfront he is um real and the thing that I I think people relate to the most are the trials and tribulations the failures the and I hate to say failures because we all have those just the setbacks let's the challenges the challenges and you know here's a guy that's oh man bipolar disorder alcoholic was hooked on Vicodin and painkillers and and hooked on golf you know there's a there's a lot of addiction uh there and um being facetious obviously with the golf statement but um and he is he just throws it out there and his honesty his ability to be authentic I mean most people stuff this these things in a closet and don't want to don't want anybody to shine any light on him and to his credit he's like shine the light on it man come and look at it this is this is who I am well people seem to like and you see this in sports all the time they like to see the guy at the top I'm not sure like to see it but get knocked off the perch however it may happen I think David kind of knocked himself off the perch time and time again but I think what people like even more is to see these people climb back up to a fantastic place we're seeing the same thing in many ways with Tiger right there's a guy that went from couldn't do anything wrong to oh my gosh what is in his closet and unfortunately we got to see a bunch of that but boy the fans have received him with open arms and I think they've done that with David from time to time and I think we're seeing Tiger with a little bit more real a little bit more candor a little bit more human and I think he's enjoying it and David has clearly embraced it and and maybe and I guess I didn't realize they were such good friends yep they well you know um he probably and he says this on the second part of the interview that you'll hear next week um I think he was probably part of 50 or 60 of Tiger's 80 something wins oh as far as watching and on course commentating right and um you know the other thing that comes to mind uh when I think of David Farity is John Daly. John Daly is still once he plays on a PGA Tour event you know he's playing champions stuff now PGA Tour champions but when he still plays the odd PGA Tour event he is still in the top three of the most popular most followed players and it's because there's another real guy he's he's you know and diagnosed with alcoholism and he still drinks he's been obese and he's lost his weight he had his he's gained a bag he's found his weight he's lost it you know it kind of goes back and forth hangs his laundry out there literally I think out when he's out riding around in his camper he absolutely he absolutely throws it right out there for everybody to look at and I think there's just this crazy endearing um character about that and and uh that that's that's how it is for me I love these guys like Farity now he's got that show that he does and it's kind of a comedy show real show etc and daily uh had his uh his songs and did he have it actually a group and he's out there playing and then he's also putting up concession stands I think he still does outside the masters selling stuff I mean it's amazing it's always attached to a local hooters I don't know you all make your own uh judgments on that that you mean yeah I won't go anywhere yeah we probably shouldn't okay probably shouldn't I can't see where it's gonna um uh help us in any way so what we're going to do folks is um we're we're going to do some of our normal stuff instead of in the front nine segment to read our email winner we're going to read it at the uh tail end of this on the range segment and then we're going to have Farity for you um front nine and back nine and then we're going to talk about it and I can't wait uh I think it's uh well you all can decide for yourself but why don't we go ahead and read the um the winner so anyone that reaches out to us you have your emails questions comments uh rules um situation anything you think might be interesting email it to me at j at jdelsongolf.com if we read your your statement your email on the air you get two rounds of golf at gateway national it's a great thing compliments of walter's golf management and today's winner is yeah email is from joe I struggle around the greens should I open the face of my wedge should I keep it square should I use my wedge should I use my putter whenever I get a chance to use my putter I'm just kind of caught in between and confused yeah and I see this all the time I mean probably the worst the thing that jumps out of my mind pearl about that statement that joe and joe thanks for the for reaching out to the show the thing that that uh the worst part of what I heard in there is a confusion you know because you'll see you know you'll hang out and see somebody that knows how to play the game they've been around the game a lot and they'll have some homemadeness in their game where they like to maybe they only like to use their 60 degree wedge and you know sometimes they'll shut it down to hit a little lower shot and that's all fine but when you're confused and you don't know and I'm sure there's some chili dipping going on and I'm sure there's some sculling going on and um what I what I would do first for joe is identify where his strengths are and if it's if you're a good putter um and you can put you know from say six to eight feet off the edge of the greens go ahead and do it joe and if this is joe sheezer i'm gonna just i just can't imagine i'm laughing too because when in doubt by the way i'm gonna say it grab the putter absolutely because the the worst chip the worst part is going to be 10 times better than the worst chip there's been so many of those old kind of lousy cliche sort of things that have been around in the game of golf but that one is really true the the worst putt is going to be a multitude times better than the worst chip and um one of the things that you're going to have to do though when you encounter rough you're going to have to get your wedge out okay and the biggest thing about your wedge i'm a proponent of getting your hands about even with the ball don't get your hands too far forward you do not need to open the face of your wedge but what you do need to have is angle on your back uh your backswing and your downswing so you need to have the the club lifted up a little bit so that the the grass isn't interfering with the face as it comes into swing with a ball and then you're going to be able to drop that wedge right on the back of the ball and pop it up in the air and that's a shot i'll say this universally i've been around the world playing this great game universally that is the single biggest thing that amateur struggle with is try to figure out how to hit a short shot high and i love when you said earlier committing and that's why i started laughing because i can remember throwing you under the bus here it's time for that by the way it's that time of the show you usually you would get incredibly committed on chip shots that i couldn't have disagreed with more and the bottom line is though because you were committed you would pull them off certainly more times than not and sometimes extremely well it it just really maze makes that point that even if it's the wrong idea if you're completely bought into it it's got a good chance of working out the thing that's never going to work even if you're right is if you're not committed no question and you're not building anything that commitment is absolutely crucial that is a foundational block that we want to have in our games and it's committed to what we're doing even if it's the wrong club not necessarily the correct shot for the for for that moment in and uh on the golf course so that's going to do it for the on the range segment we're going to take a short break uh but stay with us we're going to have the david ferret interview that's going to start on the front nine this is golf with j delsing on 101 espn doster olam and boil llc are a proud sponsor of golf with j delsing 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think we're on the same page that's probably why we get along so well which is probably a scary thing yeah really it's big so we've got a lot of history most of which i've forgotten that should be forgotten and won't be spoken of today that's for sure you know i just want to go over just a few things to talk about your golf career a little bit and i know you're very humble about this but i i did some research i mean 10 worldwide wins two writer cup appearances for the european team um you know back in the day we played for no money i mean even in europe you guys played for less money than we played and we weren't playing for anything over in the u.s and um gosh when i met you uh we had so much fun together and uh you were playing over here i know it was a difficult time in your life and this this tv opportunity came along and you were really ready to retire weren't you oh yeah i was i was more than ready to retire i was in uh you know it was one of the lowest points of my life um i was in the middle of a horrific divorce uh a spectacular divorce you know back page of the tabloids of the uk and all kinds of things i was drinking like a halibut um and um you know i got into painkillers uh and that's what alcohol was for me you know it was a painkiller as well you know so uh when the tv opportunity came around you know i was only 36 and um initially i said to them look i think i've got a little golf left and uh you know i would love to do this job in maybe four or five years and then they told me how much they were going to pay me and i said would you like to buy a set of clubs these are for sale officially as of right now uh that's that's that's fantastic um how was the transition how did you make that transition it seemed so oh smoothly to all of us um to go from you know playing to you know an an irish guy you've been over in the states just a couple years and now all of a sudden you're on a major network calling golf well it wasn't really uh i don't think you could call the transition it was such an abrupt halt i was i'd won a tournament in some communist country i don't know whether it was and i qualified for the the world series um in 95 or 96 whenever it was and uh i was approached uh by uh a couple of gentlemen from cbs uh at the bar in the hilton uh in ackron or planet firestone and um i i don't know what i shot the first round wasn't particularly good and you know guy sticks his hand out and said we're from cbs and i thought oh jesus 60 minutes um this is going to be some fearless expose on drugs in sport or something like that and um but it turns out ben right had been fired and uh they were looking for somebody that knew the players on both sides of the atlantic that knew the caddies on both sides of the atlantic and as you know um the caddies are sort of they're a vital part of uh of television televised golf you know that's where people get most of their information especially on the golf course you know hand signals for clubs and you know you know a little sort of backstories about the players and things like that so uh i just happened to be the right drunk in the right bar at the right time and uh you know i said yes you know i'll do it and uh you know they handed me a microphone two days later and that was it you never really looked back did you i remember talking to you seeing you probably a year after that you said oh my gosh hi man i don't miss this at all no i i've never missed it um and you know when i turned pro at 17 with a five handicap i lied about my handicap so so that i could turn pro and i never thought uh that it was what i would do for the rest of my life i thought i'd be lucky to get uh well i mean i thought i'd be lucky to ever uh be be good enough to make a living playing the game and um when it came toward the the end of my career i i wasn't you know making a living i was in such bad shape uh emotionally because of this divorce and i moved to america uh you know to be with my two sons i was playing the german open in 1993 and the woman i was married to just up and left went to dallas so that that's how i ended up in this country i remember talking to you and i remember some of the heartache that you were going through then and um and following those boys around is uh uh so admirable and exactly what i would have done and just kind of ripped your heart out i think at the time yeah yeah no i mean it's a tough thing you know being uh being a professional golfer is i mean obviously it's extremely difficult to make a living you know you're surrounded by the best players in the world uh but uh it's very difficult to have a home life uh as well uh to find a balance between the two and that's why i admire you know people like jack nicholas uh you know that we're able to find the time you know in between playing like a genius you know to be a a great father and a great husband as well yeah those examples are there there's some great examples out there and um it's a a cool way to kind of transition to the next topic you know when you stopped drinking and you got the help from man some of the icons the the true you know bastions of our game jack nicholas tom watson yeah it really it really was a sign of what kind of community we golfers have and and you know some there for some of us we may not have known that really even existed yeah you know the people out here on tour and in professional golf and in professional golf and in general and i think you know it it it transfers over to professional sports um there's tremendous empathy and and a great deal of support um obviously in team sports but especially in individual sports and a game like golf which is uh it can be incredibly lonely both on and off the golf course but uh jack nicholas and and tom watson were both really instrumental especially tom who has been such a great friend you know like a big brother to me over the last uh 15 years um he has been you know there for me every time i've been done and i know that's that's been a lot well i i tell you david it reminds me of um i know you remember when when the late pain stewart went down in the plane crash and we turned around i think we were playing in orlando uh we just finished the disney event and i think he died the next day and we turned around for um for the funeral a few days later and it was eye-opening to me as a younger guy to see what the golfing community looked like and what they how how they showed up and what that looked like for for that event and then you know thinking about what these guys did for you and the support you've got it's it's a pretty cool thing that otherwise i may not have known yeah it really is you know that you know particular occasion was you know it's something that i i think i think about a lot you know when i'm on a golf course i think about pain um especially when it comes to the rider cup or uh the open championship you know he uh i kind of looked after him when he came to the uk and uh you know showed him around and spent a lot of time with him and and he did exactly the same for me you know when i came to the united states well that wraps up the front nine but don't go anywhere the david ferret interview is only about halfway finished uh so we're gonna take a quick pause but uh come back this is golf with j delsing on 101 espn are you looking for a golf training facility and pga pros to help you out year round make sure you get to golf tech they've been in st louis since 2007 and have three convenient locations to serve you they've got state of the art video equipment and you can take your lesson home with you and replay it as much as you'd like start with a golf swing evaluation for only 125 and let a golf tech coach customize a game plan for you 314 721 golf you can find them online as well golftech.com dash st louis play better swing better golf tech i got a big shout out and a thank you to whitmore country club for supporting my golf show i don't know if you know 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here with me and uh let's get right back to the david faraday interview here on the back nine golf with j delsing let's talk a little bit about your show you guys are you've just finished your eighth full season of your show wow i a hundred episodes you've hit these milestones i mean how the hell how the hell did you do this i mean i look at the people bud that you've interviewed and i look at the list of guests you know i keep waiting for my invitation but i guess the mail this doesn't deliver this way and i i just i mean why do these people want to come on and talk with you you know that that's an exceptionally good question and i i don't like most exceptionally good questions i don't know the answer to it um i mean i think it's got a lot to do though with um you know the game is it's like heroin uh people get addicted to it and and you know the one thing that uh you know is the common thread obviously uh you know in my show is people have to be whether they're an actor or a musician a politician or an athlete uh you know they have to have an interest in golf i mean that that's it i mean they don't even have to play very much you know to be on my show but people want to talk about it they want to talk about the game and um in that process you know they end up talking about themselves and uh it's uh i i just ask the first question and and then i listen uh you know i love interviewers uh you know people like johnny carson and uh michael parkinson was uh kind of an idol of mine uh growing up i used to love his show in the uk uh graham norton you know as well it's they all have one thing in common it's they listen um you get a lot of uh uh interviewers that uh have got questions in mind and they're determined you know to get them over and it's almost as if they they they don't uh listen to the answer to the previous question you know they're so keen on getting the next one in excuse me the the show has been incredible and the thing that that um for me for me that i love the most about the show but is somehow you've managed through the game of golf to connect with these extraordinary people and i look at i just look at myself and just go man i'm 58 years old i've never had an honest job in my life and yeah it's this game i mean it's this freaking game and it's on uncanny how great a game it is yeah it is you know it's so addictive and uh you know we need to keep it that way uh you know get more women and children involved in it because i remember you know growing up it was my dad that played and uh you know when your father plays you know generally speaking you know a little boy or whatever will come along that kind of thing but if your mother plays you know the whole family shows up and uh that's uh i think that's really important yeah if you get the backbone of that family and and then more times yeah at least in my estimation you know these these women are the backbone of the family and they're gonna they're gonna herd those cats in that direction and let's talk a little bit about the troops first foundation you're building homes i mean how did you get involved in this and and i know this is about your this is your eighth year in that isn't it yeah um it's uh it's a derivative i think of of uh where i grew up jay uh you know i i i grew up in a war zone in the uh 60s and 70s and 80s in uh in northern ireland when there were you know troops on the street and roadblocks and uh checkpoints and bombs going off and uh sectarian murders you know every you know day or or uh you know it seemed like that you know the time and it didn't feel abnormal to me that's just the way the world was and uh when i moved to the united states you know i fell in love with this place so quickly and when 9 11 happened i i was horrified at the thought of of things like that happening here i couldn't bear the thought of it of it coming here you know so it took me a while to figure out what i wanted to do but i ended up going to iraq in i think 2006 to entertain you know the our troops and they weren't they weren't my troops at the time because i was i wasn't yet an american citizen but i came back from iraq stunned at the quality of the the kids that we have out there and the job that they were doing under the most difficult of circumstances you know things like the restraint that they showed on a daily basis not pulling the trigger and the love they had for each other the compassion they had for the people in iraq and i needed to do two things i needed to be an american citizen and so i could call them my troops and um i i needed to to try to do something for them when they came home broken um you know it's all very well i've been to iraq a couple of times and to afghanistan you know you spend a week there and you go around forward operating bases and they fly around in helicopters surrounded by special forces and it's it's the most incredible privilege you know to to be over there you know and they thank you for being there all the time and one of the common threads um is uh is golf uh every forward operating base has some kind of a range whether that's just whacking it into a net or or hitting balls into the desert uh you know we were at a forward operating base on the syrian border called korean village and i ended up on the roof of of the chaplain his uh his hut and i remember it was a reverend tim fairy and there's a big marine up there tom watson was giving him lessons and we were sitting in deck chairs you know watching they broke open glow sticks and poured them over the golf balls and they were like tracer bullets going out into the arabian night which is so black um you know i remember thinking to myself you know what what an unbelievable moment you know a time to be able to spend you know and see this this you know it's just incredibly unusual thing a beautiful thing like that wow that's awesome um how'd you ever get when did you first beat him when did you first beat dave fairly you know how weird the tour is you it's a such a small group of of folks he came over and i knew of him uh but we certainly didn't have any sort of history or any sort of real friendship and just by the way the pairings broke out we wound up getting paired together i don't know four or five times in a in a short period of time then maybe once on the weekend or something like that and we just hit it off we just had such a great time playing as we played we talked we laughed it was just uh you know we'd done we'd have lunch after um it we just struck up our friendship that way um i was always a fan we've always had fun together and um when the troops first stuff started coming around he had asked me to do uh you know could i you know go to san antonio and to do some things for for the heroes and help them raise money and of course i've been honored you and i've talked about this you know our generation didn't really have any involvement in the services i didn't have any friends that enlisted we didn't have a real fight you know my dad was in world war ii i know your dad was in the korea korean war and so but our i wasn't and it wasn't even a consideration you know and so this was this really filled a nice void for me to feel as if i was more patriotic for lack of contributing to say yeah and and um oh just the people that i've met and the things that i want to continue to do i mean you're involved with me with another um endeavor where we um we raised some money and bought a couple of service dogs for two fallen heroes and um i will tell you folks david and a guy named rick kell who's the executive director of the troops first foundation do you remember how emotional that um that um audio portion he sent our board yes i remember how emotional you were on top of all that yeah oh my gosh i mean the the the four men in the room were crying i mean what these dogs do for um you know these these people that have sacrificed and lost so much it's uh incredible but so you're buddies with him when you're playing then it's a kind of a cool transition he's done playing now you're towards you know you're kind of done you're gonna play a little bit more and so you'd have that in common with him kind of going forward but when you guys played together and some people don't even really realize that he played right and he was a heck of a player right what what was he good at what how did he what was his game look what did it look like jay he was a really good putter he was not long he was not powerful but he was straight off the tee and he was just um he was tidy all all aspects of his game one of the things and what i mean by that is he he could save shots he was economical on the golf course he didn't throw a lot of things away and um well damn he's won 10 times around the world yeah yeah he's been on two rider cup teams i mean he he pokes and did well on the and rider cover at least one yeah he he pokes so much fun at his career and you know he retired when he was 36 years old i love that story that he told and i think that's just so classic him and it's just a lot of fun and i and obviously the tv people saw the personality that he has and that's why they wanted him they wanted some some color they wanted some fun i think he's done some writing before too this guy has got an um an opera level voice he can sing like crazy he never does he um he's he's got um a lot of um uh pretty incredible uh gifts that uh you know most of us don't have i think some of the other pieces and we just you're kind of talking about it with the whole uh military support but the the transition he made from player obviously all kinds of personal transitions as far as marriages and his other challenges etc but that challenge to go from and we can all relate to this whether we're professional golfers or not how do we make the challenges heck early years from school to a career from one career to another career those are not easy things sometimes somebody might fall into something that's a little bit comfortable but normally there's a whole learning curve there's discomfort etc he seems to have done incredibly well and again like a lot of things he plays it down but it's pretty impressive you're you're in the middle of it you're in the middle of transition which is this radio show and other things that are happening right it's not easy and i mean you know you get some some punches thrown at you and they they they hit and uh you you definitely feel uh oh some vulnerable and in a way and one of the things that uh that stuck out in my mind with him is um see the cbs folks offered him this job and he thought you know i'm only 36 i still got four or five maybe six years left to play until he said he saw how much money they offered him and then he said does anybody want to buy a set of clubs um yeah i i think it's um i i talked to him he came to st louis and picked me up we did something at oakmont in october and he said to and he said to me i said how are you doing and he said i just i'm doing the worst part is if i stay home too long i he said i love to work and i need to be doing something and um he said you know and had his wife anita with him and she is an absolute rock and a very stabilizing force for him and um he just loves to you know he just did a fred couples interview and he had worked for quite a while to get fred on the schedule because i don't think fred was all that keen and opening the door to let people in but i did not see that interview i've seen parts of it and it's excellent i want to see the whole thing and until what i liked about parts of it and i think faraday does a great job in his interviewing to do this he really got fred to open up and say some things that even if you kind of know fred which i know a little bit through you and i actually got to play with him once you still go wow did you really think that so i think it's an excellent interview one other thing i want to throw out there and i felt this when i played i wanted to ask you about it when when david talked about being lonely on and off the golf course meaning as as a player how hard that is because you're not a team you're you're kind of on your own and it's not like guys are rooting against you although they are yeah right right but talk about that a little bit jay and and you know you're such an extrovert so did you feel that kind of loneliness or that kind of being out there on an island type of a thing on and off uh or is that more kind of a personal thing that maybe david david felt yeah i oh i'd be lying to say if i didn't feel like the the feels that at certain times the most difficult part about playing the tour is when it's not going well and you don't it's hard to find solace you know and and any comfort in anything because you're the game is not your game is not good you're not you're not hitting on many cylinders and you're looking and searching and um you we've seen it over the course of my career how many times and we've talked about this before how many times have guys got gotten into a rough a rut and never been able to climb out yeah and then also you know it it takes so much strength to keep going because you when you're when you have that lost feeling and the the sensations in your swing in your game that used to work don't aren't working anymore and you know that's that's that constant change in life you know things are always changing and always you need to always adapt and um one of the things that helped me more than anything pearl was to do my business when i got you know in back into my room i'd get on my laptop and i'd start working my hospitality entertainment thing that helped you a lot and that's paid dividends going forward because you're kind of in the middle of it now and you and you have such a successful career at handling the hospitalities the outings and that kind of thing uh i just think what's interesting too we'd like to make the comparison from golf professional golf there's plenty of sales guys out there same thing right they're not closing the sales it's lonely out there on the road and whether that sales guy or making presentations and things aren't going well so whether you're a professional golfer or anybody that's traveling away from home and we can have these feelings at home for that matter too and in the office but i think that's a great place that people could absolutely relate to you're out in the road you made five attempts at sales nobody's biting you're going to the next place you wonder what's going on the competition's kicking your butt you're starting to question yourself we can all relate to that yeah i was one of the thing i didn't mind being alone i was one of those people that didn't mind being alone and i still don't but it it's it's difficult i mean it it it gets overwhelming talk more about that i do not see you as a guy that doesn't mind being alone maybe for like 10 minutes but i mean i could do days and weeks as you know 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nmls number two three one one one eight you're listening to golf with j delsing on 101 espn you can get involved in the show by emailing your questions and comments to j at j delsing golf.com well thanks for staying with us um this is golf with j delsing my buddy john is with me and we just finished 18th hole 18 holes and we're headed to a great part of the golf experience the 19th hole um and the david faraday interview folks remember we've got the other half the second half of the faraday interview will be aired next week golf with j delsing master's weekend baby master's weekend is going to be a perfect way to wrap up that interview and then we'll also talk about augusta we'll talk about the golf course a little bit we'll talk about the prestige of the first major and you do outings down there i do i'll be down there i just it's gonna be great it's uh it's it's gonna be perfect but um let me do a quick shout out and thank you to uh whitmore country club for sponsoring the golf with 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you'll ever meet and he'll tell you answer any questions that you might have about whitmore country club you can reach them at six three six nine two six nine six two two man the ferret interviews it's hard to get off of my mind but let's go talk a little bit about the texas open this week it's down in san antonio the tpc is san antonio one of the biggest coolest hotels i've ever seen um the the jw marriott down there is uh um oh man one of the things that i when i've been to um san antonio we actually use the facility there we use the golf course there's 36 holes of golf there it's a greg norman design and a pete dye design and um some of the facilities there at the jw marriott marriott are just spectacular one of the things to note about the the norman course when it first came out and it's probably been 10 years now that we played the texas open maybe not quite that many don't anybody check up on that that's another one of those vague facts responsible for details and facts no so close yeah yeah so somewhere along the line that golf course was built and i can remember playing it with a with a buddy of ours steve lowrey he was an alabama great guy great pga tour career and we played and i looked at him after about seven holes and said steve and he goes i don't know what you're going to say but he goes i don't know if i can finish out here we had a very very breezy texas morning and the golf course was just so hard so tight off the tee extremely long it happened to be wet as well because we had some spring rains and the greens were so severe they had to go in and they had to clean out all these areas off the tee pearl to make it playable off the tee and then soften up a bunch of the greens and that of course is that the course they play for the tournament it is and i've heard now that the players have uh have really taken a liking more to the golf course than they had and um because did they make some changes to the course okay yeah they softened the greens and they made it more playable off the tee and one of the things that needs to be noted the texas open if if not the longest is one of the longest standing events on the pga tour and the fact that they got the date right before the masters is really good for them they have um they have a a golf their section there in san antonio does a great job they they're and they're involved in that tournament it's real strong local flavor and um the texas open has always been a uh a mainstay on the pga tour from from from the outset how did you do in that tournament did you have any good years out there in that you know i i had some nice finishes at some of the other courses oak hill oak hills is one of my favorite courses we played there i played my first champions tour event there and and uh yeah kind of finished about 20th or 30th not that great i had a couple of um top 10 finishes when we played at um gosh there's a golf course lock and terra resort i know like yeah lock and terra resort is associated with the westin up there and it's a it's an old rock quarry that they converted into a so you get to into a golf course they have got some real scenic real bluffs and real elevated holes it wasn't a group tom yh cough is the designer not a great course by any means but it's kind of a fun course to play there's some um oddities you went to one hole there's uh six flags of texas but it's up to one side of the the course and um and that's why you know that course will never go down as one of the best around because of you know something you've got a roller coaster in your is that texas open known for wind or not kind of standard standard wise because that'd be a little surprising before the masters whoever is not all the guys are going to get to play in the masters obviously but quite a few of them and they're not going to want to plan a whole bunch of wind and then go play augusta right because the wind just beats that it beats you down it can beat up your game hit having to hit so many low shots and control shots and um i i feel like when the texas open was played more in the fall before the schedule changed i thought i felt like we got more wind maybe that's what i'm remembering yeah so this is the you know the second i guess it's actually the first week of april this year and i i don't think you're gonna uh deal with a whole lot of wind so what kind of shots if you're getting ready to play this tournament what kind of shots you and i used to go walk around sometimes just with two or three clubs i'm carrying and say let's just go hit some wedges and some putts what kind of shots do the guys need to be focused on to play this golf course to the utmost it might be a little unique around the green or something like that norman courses for me my take on them they're extremely penal around the greens very sharp edges meaning you miss the green on the short side you're likely to have your ball roll down a hill and be 15 to 20 feet below the surface so you're going to have to hit either um some typically speaking pearl you're gonna have to hit something high and soft from there because the the the way if it's a linksy sort of course you might be able to play some bump and runs but not here it's gonna be soft that's right in line with the question we have the uh the email in uh joe talking we said hey you got to commit so what you're saying is you better commit to your shot here so the fairways are going to be pretty tight they're going to have to hit these soft flop shots and if you're not committed and you're not going to go do your thing and stay aggressive you're going to have some serious trouble right and i think uh greg's influence had a lot to do uh but you've been to australia with me you've seen the way some of the golf courses are royal melbourne and some of those courses they they almost have the the green itself roll straight into the bunkers and there's a lot of sharp edges where instead of we're over in the states we have you know we'll have a fringe and then we might even have you know a couple of feet of longer rough but not in australia and i see a lot of that influence in a lot of norman courses you also have caddied and played at um the the sugarloaf golf uh tpc in atlanta yes i have and um and remember how how sharp some of the edges there was the eighth hole comes to mind pearl that long dog leg kind of like a little sweeping dog leg to the right where greg perched the green up perched the green up in a strange angle that if you miss it miss the green to the right your ball might roll 35 yards yeah i remember that was that was a tough place as well so that's probably what i remember the severity around the greens you got to really you got to really commit to what the heck you're going to do there yeah and ironically you know you you take the modern game onto this norman course and it's not long you know it's not a long it's not a long golf course steve and i were towards the end of our pga tour careers when we were playing there and both of us were long for our era but neither of us are long for this year well then if the wind doesn't blow are they going to shoot some low numbers yeah yeah every every single but to your point if the wind does blow and they're just trying to hit those moon balls and not shaping their shots and not keeping their trajectory down and they're missing greens there's going to be a problem yeah there's no question about that there's there's no question about that i saw that this year at shinnecock during the open i was amazed at the 17th holes of shinnecock it's it was only 170 yard par three but the brilliance in the way that the golf hole is set up the green is angled at you in such a way that when the wind blows it is really difficult to hit and for my eye i'd stand up there the wind was always blowing in from the left you know for a right-handed golfer that is a bear that is such a tough wind and i was always thinking these guys are going to take something and hold it hit a little draw into the and not one of them did they all sent that ball up in the air and let the wind just push it down to the right and you know how that goes pearl if that ball slightly missed hit the wind just takes it moves it and so i was seeing shots i mean i saw rory miss hit one and it wound up right of the right green side bunker on 170 yard shot you don't see that very often the wind is the equalizer and maybe the only equalizer these days and even that with the equipment and the ball the way the ball has changed how many times have we talked about i would love to see the present day player with some clubs from 35 years ago and the pro trudge low trudge the those old balada titlist balls and i would like to see if they're still going to make the same club selection and hit the same shot selection i don't think they would be able to i don't either and i would think that that certain players would would thrive and certain players would go away absolutely i think they would i think they'd go away the other thing is think about this for a minute with this club head speed that balada was actually flying through the air egg-shaped because because it was a wound ball folks it's had real rubber bands in there they'd have to change balls almost every shot i didn't even think about that especially as hard as they're hitting it and with the clubs they're using no but they have to use the clubs we use 35 years ago but even that with the club head speed and the strength these guys you're right they would be changing them and i remember kedding you changed them quite a quite a bit not just because when you cut the daylights out of them or did that or hit a card path or ripped it off a tree or whatever right right no i i remember changing balls a lot and the the the well the cover was so soft you literally could hit it nowadays in a waste area and you would scuff it such that you weren't going to play another hole with it just out of a regular waste area and remember when i'd get my new i'd change my wedges out probably four times a year so once a quarter i get new wedges in and i'd have to i'd actually practice with old balls to try to not to to take a little bit of the sharpness off of those wedges and the grooves so it wouldn't tear up the ball it was it would scale the ball yeah we would change them a lot yeah we really did yeah that that's also when you used to get free free golf balls now you're not getting as many free golf or are you trying to rub that in are you trying are you getting free golf balls still uh it's been quite a while i think that you know it's funny they there's that saying out there you know they kind of forget who you are oh they have forgotten st louis that is for sure those titleist shipments don't come this way anymore i used to be able to give you know guys were going hey do you got a three wood i guess i'd be like yeah i've got i've got a lot of stuff i don't have anything anymore like when i was free give me three that was the team player motto yeah or if it's free it's for me yeah yeah you know and one of the three one of the things that was so fun is that right around the holidays you know my friend do you remember my friend george will it yes tailor-made great guy loved hockey we talked blues hockey all the time and he was uh from toronto and he would say i said george i i'm thinking i'm gonna need a new driver goes jay christmas is you know four weeks away i'm out of drivers i go what are you talking about how can you be out of drivers he goes you know all of your friends come in and they fill up their you know they're looking for stocking stuffers it's going to be drivers so i think steve payt at one point may have held the record as far as number of clubs that he was given oh i i he and peter's one of those guys i don't really think he hoards them he just loves to tinker with that sort of stuff and uh so i don't think he was like he still i would be say he's considered a hoarder but he tinkered with all of them yeah he wasn't there's hundreds of them hundreds of them he had putters i'll never forget peter won i forget what event he won and i'm playing a practice run i played a practice run with him for 20 years almost every week and he went i had a new putter out i agree he didn't putt well last week yes no i did yeah what are you doing with that some guys like that i was the exact opposite as you know i'm a dinosaur too i would stick with something and oh man it's brutal it uh until i absolutely hated it i i could at some point i remember you saying to me if i don't do this i am giving up so much to the field it's a joke i learned you have when the technology boomed and there was new stuff coming out you had you had to give it a try um man that's going to wrap up the 19th hole perley thanks so much for spending the morning with me a lot of fun j brad thanks for working the uh the board and we need to get a we're going to get you back on the show we need to update on that driver that we uh talked about last week we're going to start having some video post on your uh your website and some of the social media and maybe that's maybe uh maybe a sizzle is the is the model for these golf lessons i like that i throw that out there and we'll just have him but he'll be wanting to bowl in no time you know we'll have him so frustrated that'll be perfect but um yeah that'll wrap it up uh have a great uh golfing spring st louis we'll be back at you next week and uh hit him say hit him straight st louis that was golf with j delsing brought to you by whitmore country club tune in next sunday from seven to eight for more from j john and the other pros and experts from the golf world in the meantime you can find all of j shows at 101 espn.com as well as at j delsing golf.com peloton let's go this holiday with the right music and the right motivation from world-class instructors we're gonna pick it up a notch it's the holiday season you 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