Golf With Jay Delsing - - Bubba's Bag

25 years on the PGA Tour and a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America, Jay Delsing brings you his perspective on one of the world's greatest games as a professional golfer and network broadcaster.

It's the game that connects the pros and the average Joes. Brought to you by Whitmore Country Club, Golf with Jay Delsing is now on 101 ESPN. Good morning, this is Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host Jay Delsing and meet the chair next to me is now occupied. Here we go. Who is this guy? All right, here we are. Better security around here. I know.

Colin Perley. I'm gone. I'm gone one time.

Most of the show is already done. You had about, I don't know, six minutes that you had to fill and now you're busting my chops. Was it a great six minutes? I think it was like 12 minutes.

It was a great 12 minutes too. Let me ask you a question. Did I get thrown under the bus last week? Oh no.

Oh really? No. No. No? Not at all? Not at all? What?

I don't know, Brad. Is there anything you can pull up to kind of prove to me that I didn't get thrown under the bus? Yeah, we can find something. Okay. All right. Let's prove to you that you did not get thrown under the bus. Fine.

Prove it anyway. Would you like to listen to my segment? I know you listened to the show while you weren't here. Anyway, we formatted the show like a round of golf. The first segment is called On The Range segment brought to you by Golf Discount.

And Golf Discount is where St. Louis shops for all of its golf needs. Very important probably our social media play is Twitter handle at Jay Delsing, Facebook Golf with Jay Delsing and Jay Delsing Golf LinkedIn is Jay Delsing and our Instagram account is... I don't know. Who does? Me, do you know?

I don't even have an Instagram. I have no idea. Okay, why would you? All right, so we had a cool interview last week with Julie Inkster. We'll go over a little bit of what we...

I want to talk just about a couple of things on the Julie Inkster interview that we had. We've got another episode of Whackin' Chase, which is going to be fun. I've got a little training aid I want to talk about. I got some really cool information about Bubba Watson and I got dissected to stuff from his bag and how far... You are loaded for bear this morning.

You are loaded for bear. Far as clubs go, which you go just a tiny bit further than yours and mine. But the Julie Inkster thing. So we had Julie on a couple of things that we didn't really get to talk about.

We are going to have an interview next week with a woman named Jennifer Monroe. Mentioned it just briefly with the interview with Julie, but this is called a... Segue. Tease. Segue.

Look at how good we're gay. Sorry, that's segue. Yeah, hello.

Anyway, it's called something like that. And what Jennifer does is she is world renowned at personality profiling and understanding how important your personality is and who you hang out with. And what she's done with Julie is helped her figure out who needs to play together, who needs to hang out together.

Why? Give her some information. And it hasn't worked where the dam for Julie, because she's only won the last two soul homes. And now she's on her third.

No one's ever captain the soul home three times in a row and we're wishing Julie all the best. And the other place I was going with this, Pearl, is Jennifer had a conversation with Paul Azinger before he captained his Ryder Cup successes at Valhalla years back. And she was explaining to him how important it was to do this.

And Paul went out and hired a Navy SEAL who was the commander and who understood all this stuff like a Navy SEAL would when they're putting these SEAL team sixes together and things like that. And so I just wanted that to be mentioned about this kind of how we're going to tie in next week's show with Julie and these personality profiles and stuff. And I know, Pearl, you, first of all, have helped me with some understanding, just even myself, my kids, and things like that with the way that they're, this is this personality is kind of how you're hardwired. It's not like, oh, I choose to, you know, this is...

It is how are you are hardwired. And I worked with Jennifer, I think as much as 15 years ago. And I'm actually certified in administering the PDP program. And I think it's absolutely fantastic to better understand ourselves and understand other people, which is pretty key in life. Give us one thing that sticks out in your mind. That sounds like a whack of cheese. What's going on here?

Give me give us. Is there one thing that sticks out in your mind that you see more light bulbs go on from with these PDPs? I think just the awareness in general for people. I think sometimes we kind of have a sense of it, but this program, the PDP profiling, and again, these are, Jennifer will say it's very different and it is, but you've heard of Myers-Briggs, you've heard of DISC, PI, True Colors. There's a lot of them out there.

I think PDP is the best. That's why I do it. Best to understand. But I think just how the light bulb goes on for people to say, boy, now I understand why that other person's the way they are, how I interact with them. And it just helps. And you're exactly right, Jay. We're hardwired that way.

It's just like our thumbprint. And by the way, it's not a good or a bad, but it's good to understand. So given different situations, how you can approach them and in the corporate world, how to put people in the right seats on the bus. My sister Kim was the CEO of Calvin Klein Cosmetics and Fragrances and she used Myers-Briggs with all of the people to try to help them communicate better.

If you're willing to take the time to understand it, because this is not easy stuff to really understand it. But if you're willing to take the time, it's fantastic for yourself. And I love that you've kind of looked into it for your kids a little bit, as I have, and it's just really helpful. And I think Jennifer is a great interview and behind the scenes stuff. If you didn't bring it to the radio, people would never know really how she fit in there and how impactful her guidance was for both Paul and Jennifer and Julie, the other Jennifer.

Yeah, we got it. Yeah, it's cool stuff. And I can remember taking that Myers-Briggs back in the late 80s and the person administrating it for my sister said, you do what for a living? She's like your personalities. And I've known it ever. I knew that I was all alone out there with the way that I saw and the way that I wanted to play didn't conform. And unfortunately, I conformed and it probably didn't help my career any, but I did the best I could.

Well, your personality is in that less than 10% who's walking on the planet. So whether it's golf or anything else, it's not necessarily- And anybody that's met me can verify that. Yeah, exactly. Guys, stay away from that guy.

He's nuts. Hey, I got to talk about this cool training aid from Tad Golf, T-A-D Golf. This buddy of mine, friend of mine now, Chuck McPherson created this for his son. It is the easiest training aid I've ever seen. It's an arrow that you put down to help you with your alignment.

And he told me stories about his son and how it helped his son. And it's fantastic. We can't show you this because we're on radio, but we're looking at an arrow that goes down where you're hitting the ball.

You set it on the ground. It's really well done. It's a durable piece of plastic. I like the look of it.

You can put a little- There's a hole there where you can put a T so you don't have to keep replacing it. So guys, you got to go check this out. www.tadgolf.com. And check this thing out. There's a survey to take.

These things are great promotional items. But more importantly, how often did I spend time working on my alignment? Well, at the end of the day, if your alignment's off, you're off. Period.

End of story. What did Ernie L say? One of my favorite golf quotes forever. Especially at the time of this interview and this question was, he was number one or whatever in the world very, very much at the top.

And he said, what's the most important thing? When we think we're going to hear some incredible thing about, oh, at the top of my swing, if I'm loaded up, et cetera, et cetera. He said, when my alignment's on, I'm tough to beat. When my alignment's off, I can't find the golf course.

And so that's another interesting thing. If you do ever get to go out and watch a PGA Tour event is how much time the guys throughout the range are spending on their alignment. Because alignment is key to everything.

The best shot in the world aimed in the wrong direction isn't worth a darn. And that gets confusing. So I think little devices like this, and I love, as you said, Jay, the simplicity of that. By the way, we can get Drew to post that on your website. Absolutely. It's going to be on all the social media stuff. We're doing that for Tadgolf.

We want to help them. Hey, there's going to be a Champions Tour event next four years in St. Louis. Is that cool or what? I know.

I'm so excited for you. Are you going to get to play? I don't know.

I hope so. We haven't got that far yet. We can't really release any of those.

I am not going to tell any of those things that I know right now. Oh, of where it's played? Yeah. It's going to be in St. Louis. When is that going to be released? Very soon. Hopefully.

On the Jay Golf and Jay Kelsey show? Is that going to be the release point? Well, I know some of my friends. Yeah, let's just leave it at that.

We're not that accurate with those points anyway. So stay tuned. Yeah, so it's going to be four years. It's going to be in St. Louis, and you're going to get to go check out some of the best, well, the best players in the world, over 50, going to the course in St. Louis. And I'm so excited for the community. I'm so excited for the... Look at how the city responded to last year's PGA Championship.

And no, this is not a major. This is not the young guys playing, but it's still... Still a lot of fun, big time.

Big time. Awfully good golf. Good for St. Louis.

That's awesome. Awfully good golf. Well, that's going to wrap up the On the Range segment.

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This is a segment we call The Front Nine. All right, Pearly, so did a lot of research this week and I came up with this thing. Wait a second, research on a Golf with Jay Delsing show? I didn't say good research.

Okay. I just said some research. You read an article.

That's right. Google. I got a magazine. Look at all this stuff I have in front of me.

You did a bunch. It's cool stuff. Anyway, Golf Week has this article about Bubba Watson's golf bag. What's in my bag?

It's called my bag and I just found it fascinating. Well, wait a second. One reason I'm anxious to talk about this is anytime they show him on TV, his caddy doesn't play by the regular rules. The other caddies are kind of flashing what they've hit, that kind of stuff. His caddy, at least in the past, didn't do that and won't do it much.

They don't want people to know what he's hitting. No question. Ted, great guy. I went up to him.

I had Bubba at Oakmont Friday's round and I said, I said, I ate a Bubba. Hey, I'm going to be with you. If I get in the way, just scream at me. It's no big deal. I'm just going to do this.

We're doing this for Fox. They say, yeah, no problem. And you know, I'm going to get some clubs.

Yeah, no problem. Didn't flash me one club. Bubba won't let him flash one club. That's how the TV commentators, the people walking the golf course, talking to the audience know is the caddy will flash signals on what club a player is hitting. And the caddies are really quite good about it. And when I got the caddy for Jay, I learned that.

And I was on the other side when I was low man on the totem pole. Getting signals for Roger Mulpe in the Ryder cup, both some distances and clubs, the caddies were always just great about it. That was part of the routine and they did it, but you'd get the occasional guy that it wasn't. And I guess that's part of Bubba team. Bubba is it's pretty tightly held information.

Well, here's the other thing about Bubba. So just diving into this a little deeper, this is one of the few guys I'm going to say, I'm not going to say the only guy because you can't have the way Tiger and Phil know how to play the game, but they're high, high, high level that they don't do this as much. But when we used to play Pearl, I can remember playing with Sam Snead. I got to play golf with Sam. It's awesome.

Extremely cool. This guy would deliberately hit a club that he thought would screw me up on a par three. That's old school.

So if it was a perfect seven iron, he'd take out a little bitty five and just chip that thing in there. And I said, Oh, Mr. Snead, what club did you hit? And he walked right by me and said, I hit the right one, Sonny. And I was like, I was pissed. That's hard, hard to believe that that pissed me off. I can see where it gets you a little bit hot, but I also think it's cool that you were playing with guys like that, that that was part of that. That was a big part of the game back in the day.

Oh, for sure. But Bubba does this now. Bubba will go ahead and turn a seven iron and hook it and hit it and hit it, you know, 210 yards and also hit it 160. But I can't fathom that the rest of the players on tour are going to club off of Bubba. He's obviously in a whole different... No doubt.

So which end do you want to start on this end of this bag? Just go. I think it's just cool as heck that you've even got the information. Yeah.

So his lob wedge, his 60 degree lob wedge goes 95 yards. Not crazy. Not really crazy.

Not crazy compared to a lot of guys out there. But if you start... I thought you were going to say it's 65 degrees and not 60 degrees. Right. I was wondering, and he doesn't have... Yeah, he does have a 60 degree. I was thinking it was going to be a 62 or something.

He's got a 60 degree wedge, a 56 and a 52. So it says. So it says. Yeah, right.

I don't know that you can completely trust this either, unless they were able to go and measure all this stuff. Well, the manufacturers are going to make these the way he wants them. Exactly.

And then they're going to be put out who knows how. Right. Right.

But we're looking at this stuff. So the wedges are not all that exceptional. It's a sand wedge, 124 yards.

It's a hell of a lot. I can hit mine probably. If I smash mine, I can hit mine about 113 to 14, something like that.

Okay. And then his gap wedge. So he carries four wedges.

I only carry three. His gap wedge goes 135. That's basically my medium nine iron.

Maybe a hard, hard pitching wedge. But anyway, the stuff that just gets me is that when you go to his nine iron, it goes 165 yards. This guy just plays all by field.

Never had a lesson. What's really interesting, if you look at the way he... He'll tell you the way he played. He used to play golf around his home. With a wiffle ball, I think. With a wiffle ball. And he'd go around... The front nine, he'd slice it around the house.

And the back nine, he'd hook it around the house. That's funny. Isn't that funny? Yeah. I mean, man, I'm not sure anybody's picked up on that as far as, hey, let's get the kids to do that.

And I'm not sure... I have to give it some thought about the advantages of playing with a wiffle ball at all, other than, I guess, really understanding how to curve a ball and create spin. Exactly right. And Julie Inkster had a really cool thing, Pearl, on this in her show, where she was talking about how she got presented to the game. And she lived across the street from Pasa Tiempo. Julie Inkster lived across the street, which is a great old Alster-McKenzie course. We played the far western intercollegiate there. We loved that course.

Yeah. And she said when they started getting good enough to hit the ball all the time, they went out and hit shots. And I can remember, as a kid, caddying and then finally working in the back room. And we would stand there by a tree, or there'd be a tree out there and go, I got to hit this high and hook it around this tree. I got to hit this low and get it around this tree, or over this pond, or over this bush, or whatever it was.

And that's what this guy does. That's the way he played. But also, without going too off the script here, when we were playing and Julie was doing that with the golf ball, the golf ball used to turn a whole lot more. Oh yeah, it turned it. You go out there and try to slice the daylights out of it now, and you can't hardly slice it.

So I think that's taken part of this away, and we've talked about that as well. But I think Bubba still does it. I don't care. It doesn't seem to matter what golf ball he's playing. He can still curve the daylights out of that thing.

Yeah, there's no doubt. And I mean, let's talk a little bit about Bubba's career. He's won 12 times on the PGA Tour, two Masters titles.

When I go with Jay Nelson Golf, we take people down to Augusta every year. We go right to that tree on number 10, where he beat, who'd he beat in the playoff? Was it Len Matisse? I think it was. Or was it Louis Ustasen?

Maybe it was Louis. I think it was. Yeah.

Yeah, keep going. Good, Pearl. Good. I think it was Ustasen. But anyway.

Nobody remembers second place. That's all that means. Exactly. So when you see the shot, could you hit that shot? No.

Oh no. But he's left-handed. Only because he's left-handed. Now, if you put that in the left rough, I could hit that. Could you hook it that much?

I could. And hit it that far? No.

And that close? No. Blow the hole so you can make the next shot? No.

Okay, hello. I'm just trying to clarify. You asked me if I could hit that shot. Yeah, I could hit it.

I'm not saying where it would go, for sure. No, but the one thing that he hit his middle wedge, his sand wedge there, and he hooked it 35 yards. But you know, as a golfer, we can't slice the short irons much, but we can hook them. We can hook them. We can still hook them. You can hook them. I can hook them. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to.

Start hooking. Yeah. So anyway, so you get his nine iron goes 165, eight iron, 180. So Nick Price told me this cool story. You know, Nick was the captain of the international squad for the President's Cup three times in a row.

And Nick Price is one of my favorites. Great guy. Nice guy. Just terrific.

Won the PGA Championship here in St. Louis in 1992. Pretty cool. Anyway, he said, Jaybird, we're sitting around. I got the guys together.

We're having a beer, and we're just talking. So I said, well, the first thing we got to get, you know, we got to talk about the golf ball. Like, what ball is everybody playing?

No one even talks about that, how big a deal that is in the alternate shot and stuff. Get the guys used to the golf ball. And then try to figure out everybody's distances. And so he says, we're sitting there, and we start somehow, somebody brings up, well, what do you hit?

180. And Price is over thinking, little five. You know, little five, big six.

And the guy's like, it's either an eight or nine, depending on the conditions. Wow. And he's going, okay, so I'm out of this conversation. I just need to direct it. Right. You guys just figure it out.

But that, that's crazy. Jay, I can remember caddying for you in Wisconsin, Brown Deer, and it was a rain delay. And so I'm breaking the rules again. I'm right inside the clubhouse there.

And who comes sit right next to me? It was Bubba Watson. Yeah. Now he was, people kind of knew his name back then, but not that much, just that he was long. I don't think he'd won anything or that type of a thing. And first of all, how tall that he was for first of all, I'm 6'3. The guy's definitely taller than that. And then he was playing that ninth hole, which is where we were kind of sitting in the clubhouse just inside of that. And all the years you would hit up, maybe a cut five would, a lot of times it'd be a three or four iron, get it in the fairway. This guy's driving it on that green. Now you hit the ball a long way, but you and I never contemplated. Never. Maybe contemplated hitting driver, which wasn't very smart, but never hitting driver on the green. No.

And this guy's knocking the dang thing on the green. So that was, there was certainly some other long guys, but he was one of the new breed of long. No question.

No question. I'll tell you a story. Playing with him in Valdosta, Georgia, a big golf course, massive fairways. It was fun. You could really take a rip at some of these. And he didn't know this, but I was like, I had just birdied like three holes in a row and I was like three or four under, it was on a Saturday round. And I'm like, I'm going to go after one here. And he didn't know, but I'm like, I'm having a long drive contest with Bubba.

He just doesn't know he's involved in it. And I smashed one and it was a drive distance hole. So folks, there's two holes. Every time we play on tour, there's two holes where they measure your distances.

So that's where all of the driving distance numbers come from two holes. And I hit it out there. I remember it went like three 23 and I was, I was puffed up. I was puffed up, back bowed.

Everything was rosy. I'm making birdies. Three 77. Whoops. Three 77. How'd that puff up go after that?

Have you ever taken a pin and just let all the air out of a balloon where it just goes. He wasn't even involved in it. He didn't. That makes it worse for you though.

Of course it does. Cause he didn't have the adrenaline that I did. And I will tell you, I don't think I could have hit mine one inch further. You probably hit a little butter cut out there. Yeah, he probably hit his five one.

I don't know. Plus he plays with the funky colored clubs and then you play them with a funky colored golf ball. So I've got him at Oakmont, right? And we are on the eighth hole. The eighth hole is a 310 yard par three at Oakmont. Oh boy.

Which I'm going to this week. Nice. Go get her done. 310 yard. We're gonna have a blast.

Yeah. What am I going to do? Lay up. Anyway, so I'm standing about 120 yards off the tee and they're like, can you get us a club with Bubba? I can't. And you know, can't get a club. Well, I can get this club. He pulls out his driver.

You want to know why? It's got that pink shaft. I'm like, guys, he's got driver out.

Like, are you serious? I said, he's got driver out and I am standing 120 yards or so down to his right. And he hits this thing. It's coming right at me. And I'm like, oh, you know, and it's about 15 feet over my head and starts slicing, you know, and puts it right on the front edge of the green. Incredible the way he plays and kind of a different guy thinks the trees are talking to him, buildings might fall on him, things like that. Oh, yeah.

I'd go there if I could hit the driver that far. Yeah. Well, you know, one thing that was really interesting, he played that volvic golf. I get it. He doesn't need the money. Play and win tournaments. Yeah, of course, if the trees are talking to him in the village, took his money. I don't know.

I don't know what happened. So let's just go seven iron 195, six iron 207, five iron 220, four iron 232, two iron. How far she is to earn in the air. These are carry numbers now 249 yards. You're only six yards off.

I know because I've already talked about it before. Oh, 255 is three woods, just a smooth three to 70. And as drivers, just a smooth 310. Please. You know what to me, too, when he stands up there and swings, it doesn't look like it's going to go. No, as far as it goes. Have you ever seen? Have you ever seen them?

I'm going to tell you what you're missing. You ever seen a MythBusters show on? Okay, so they wanted to figure out Rory and Bubba, longest sitters on tour.

Why? What is the science behind it? Bubba Watson swings two and a half feet longer than anybody else on tour. The arc of his swing travels, so they measured it from the start of the back of the ball all the way up to the top. Next time you watch him, watch how far past parallel he takes.

What does that get you? Isn't it still a club head speed thing? If your club head speed is the same, are you telling me if the club head speed at contact is the same with yours and Bubba's because his swings two feet longer goes further? I'm going to tell you this, and I'm no scientist.

And we're on this show, which is, you know, whatever. Yeah, loose at best. What I'm telling you is there's hand-eye coordination in there and hitting that ball solidly. You can swing the golf club 150 miles an hour, but if you don't center it on that ball, you're not going to get full effect. So the hand-eye coordination, when John Daly came out and swung away, he swung and people are like, what? And how far that went. So does, so your question is, does a long backswing always equate to more distance?

No, it doesn't. Remember Dan Pohl? Shortest back swings and the longest hitters, but with Bubba and his hip motion is, it is, is definitely effective. And he hits the ball solidly. Rory, on the other hand, moves his hips faster than anybody else. And he had an interesting little idiosyncrasy when he would go move, start moving to his left. He had a portion of his body that would actually back up and give him a more whip-like effect with the, with the club. So take that to the bank. I've been taking that to the bank for 30 years.

I still can't hit him very far. You're only going to hear that where? On the Golf with Jay Delsey show. You know, he's sucking up meat just because he didn't cheer up last week because it's pretty good. We're going to have to kick him out more often. You know, that's going to wrap up the front nine.

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That's an old kind of a refurb term that they used back in our generation. But we had three, two kids, really three, that came out this year and did some really unbelievable, unusual stuff. And we're talking about Matthew Wolf, Colin Murakawa, and Victor Havela. And Victor, let's start at the bottom, if there's a bottom. And I'm not sure if he's going to finish at the bottom. He did not win a tournament this year. He left school, Oklahoma State Cowboy, All-American there, left school. He's 21 years old. So he left early, you're saying? He left early. How early?

Do you remember? 21, I think he's a junior. He's from Oslo. Boy, I don't understand that, though. I don't understand why you leave early. Not in golf. Well, all three of these guys did.

I know, but fine. I don't understand all three of them. Free education. Unbelievable experiences. Think about it this way, Corey Pavin. Five years, no degree, and he's made $100 million. I'm not saying, and maybe that was a different situation.

He definitely wasn't into the scholastics. I just think it's a missed opportunity. It's not like football or basketball, break an ankle, whatever.

I just think it gives you a little bit more time to mature and things like that. But I hear you, but I don't know that everything is dollars and cents either. Yeah, I don't know each one of these.

I don't know these guys personally at all, but we can talk about how much they accomplished at college, and they were probably thinking, what else can I do? But anyway. Well, that's a good point.

I think Haviland's going to be the first Norwegian golfer ever to play on PGA Tour. Is that right? Yeah. Cool. I'm trying to think of who else it would be, and I don't know.

Yeah. But he's definitely the first one to have this full-time card. He made $678,000 last year in about, oh, five or six tournaments. He just missed keeping his card. I was going to ask, so that's short of keeping your card.

Just keeping, yeah. So now he's going through tour school. Well, it's the Corn Fairy Championships, and he already made it through. He finished 11th in the Children's Hospital Classic at Scarlet Course in Columbus, Ohio. Yeah, what a heck of a golfer that is.

And then he finished the next week. He finished second at Boise, which locked up his tour card. His official world golf ranking, going through all this, 111th in the world. 21 years old, played six tournaments. He's already up to 111th in the world.

That's pretty impressive. I have a feeling about this kid. I don't know why. I just have a feeling about this kid that he is going to be, we're going to hear a lot from him. It's hard not to have a feeling about all three of these guys so that you've chosen here, I think. Well, yeah. So where's your feeling coming from?

I don't know. I like the way I've watched this kid closely. He's got a, not that the others don't, but he's just got a different demeanor. He's always smiling. I feel like he is fully embracing this experience and is really ready. Not like the other guys aren't, but there's just something different about him.

Already more emotionally, you mean? Yeah. Because swing wise, Colin seems to, Morikawa, he seems to have the purest swing. No.

Technically, from a technical standpoint, there's no question about it. And he's showing it too, because he's been kind of kicking butt out there week in, week out. So he had the best year of all. He's also the oldest. He's 22 years old. He went to Cal. Does it count between 21 and 22?

Is there really a difference? Well, in Wolf's 20. And he went to Cal.

In Wolf's 20. Well. But anyway, he went to Cal.

Yeah. He was an All-American, University of Cal. Spent time as the number one ranked amateur in the world for about a year and a half. 2017 and 18. His official world golf ranking in seven tournaments is 59th.

Seven events. Well, he deserves every bit of that. That guy's played some serious, serious golf. Won his fourth tournament on tour. The pureness of his swing is... His rhythm to me, Pearl, is exceptional. And what's really interesting is that a lot of times you see guys that have really good rhythms with their full swing.

And then you look at some of their short game or in their putting and it doesn't match. His runs through the bag. And I think that's a big strength for him. He made $1.75 million this year. One of his fourth events on tour three.

Pays to go to Cal. Three top, three top 10 finishes. And he, he advanced to the second round of the playoffs. So he not only made it to the first and the second, but probably the biggest thing that you get from winning the tournament. He won the event in Reno, Pearl, at Montreux. Yeah, Montreux.

We've had good experiences at Montreux. Two-year exemption. What's that worth?

Well, for a guy like this, peace of mind and all that kind of stuff. Maybe two as well as he played. It doesn't hardly matter. But it's pretty sweet to be that young, already got a million or so in the bank. That's worth a couple shots. Or so.

Having a card for a couple years. That's worth a couple shots. All of a sudden, this guy's tougher to beat. I agree. Yeah. I agree. And you, and you look at him. And what's interesting. So we'll go up to Matthew Wolf.

Talk about Matthew Wolf. He won his third event on tour. The new event in Minnesota. We talked about it at the time, the 3M.

They played at TPC Twin Cities up in Blaine. This guy swings as peculiarly as anyone I've ever seen. A lot of theoric.

A lot of old school. But to me, this guy looks like a shortstop playing golf. He looks like he could just, you know, fast twitch muscles. Looks like he could just do play all sorts of different things.

But there's method to that madness. And he's got, I'm going to space in on his teacher's name, his instructor's name, George. Anyway, just as unique as Matt Swing is. And Geicus, I think is his name. And really interesting. And I saw kind of a special on them. And a special on his instructor. I love some of the things that he was talking about. And you know, it doesn't fit any model as, as Matt Swing doesn't fit any model.

But it reminds me a little bit relative to the loops and things lining up. And making it happen like a Fuhrich. But with some serious power. Oh, he's got major power. He's built differently. He's still a good-sized guy.

But serious power. I think he kind of sprung to the scene at the Phoenix Open, I believe. It was the first time that he was really kind of highlighted and was all over it.

I think he had a strong finish of some sort. But to me, that guy has the gamer look, I think is what you're seeing in Victor Hovland. I think that Matt Wolf really has that gamer. Not that Collins clearly not a great player or a gamer, but these kind are like scrappy guys.

Right. He won about a million for this year. Got an interesting distinction only two other players in the history of the game have. He's won the NCAA individual tournament and a PGA Tour event in the same year. Shares that distinction with Crenshaw and a guy named Eldrick Woods.

Eldrick Woods. So Phil didn't win that double when he was... Not in the same year. Oh, but he won a term as an amateur. These guys didn't win as an amateur.

Okay, that's maybe the distinction. Yeah. Yeah, Scott Verplank's the only other guy in the modern era to win a PGA Tour event as an amateur.

Phil and Scotty D. He was a heck of a player too. Oh, man. I remember.

Yeah. He won his third event. He's ranked 74th in the official world golf rankings.

And he advanced for the first round of the playoffs. But these guys... And so I did a little more looking into some of the college, you know, this kind of feeder system. It's just awesome what's out there. They rank... I'm not much into this really, Pearl, how they rank the college teams and stuff like that.

And the NCAA tournament's hard to follow for me because it's that match play and things like that. But it's still, you know, great players out there. A guy for Texas named Cole Hammer, we watched him play a little bit last year together. I forget where we were watching him play. Looks like to be a really good player, he's on the number one ranked team. This kid from Pepperdine, I've seen him play just a little bit. I will absolutely chop up his name. It's Saheeth Ligala. That was pretty close, I think.

As long as he doesn't hear it. Interesting, because he plays at Pepperdine, which is turned in... When we were in college, Pepperdine didn't even have a program.

It's amazing to me. Then they won the NCAA a couple years after that. Rob Geiberger's brother is the coach there.

Well, there you go. I mean, is it Brett? A Geiberger is coaching. I may have said Rob, and Rob might be the coach.

It's a Geiberger. Yeah, right. Let's not haggle over that too much. And on the women's side, man, the Duke team seems to be strong again, and they got USC ranked number one for the women. I don't really care to talk about USC too much.

USC and UCLA, that never worked out too well. Where's UCLA ranked on that check? Fifth. For the girls.

What about for the guys? 29th. How is that even possible? I have a friend, Dr. Drew Winston, one of the greatest guys of all time, helped my family and just helped us at UCLA Med Center when Dad was having issues.

My sister, Kim, with her rheumatoid arthritis, just a great guy. He bleeds UCLA. He calls me every three months and tells me about how in sheer disarray the UCLA golf team is. How is that even possible? You and I need to check into that.

We need to go a little undercover scoop and get that figured out. They say that the golf coach is alienating a lot of people and just not doing what he's supposed to be doing. Wow. Well, everybody's going to have their opinions. Yeah, right. It's hard to believe that they're ever outside of the top couple. Yeah, they're ranked 29th.

Wow. The golf courses they have to play in LA. The opportunities, the alumni, the alumni. And the alumni. And the alumni. Well, the funny thing is, we talked about this before.

When you think about stuff like that, how did they not use the guys from Pernice and Pate and Duffy and Corey and myself to help with the program? What about me? What, are you going to just name me? I said Burley. Did I say Burley to me? Yeah, I heard it. Get that tape going again, man.

I'm still looking forward to the tape from the last week. Wait a minute. Are you here? Oh, man. This is brutal. This isn't tough.

When did he show up? Me? What? I learned this from me and you. Wow.

I didn't even know the light over his chair was on. The energy, when you felt the energy comes through the door, that was me. That's when I showed up.

No. But seriously, though, I mean, if someone would have called you, called me, we'd have called one another, all those guys, we'd have been there in a heartbeat. Well, I did go back. But to your point, it's not like we're getting called.

And again, I'm joking that it would be me as much as you guys, for sure. But I did go back, and things were still... But that was a while ago. It was... How many years ago was that? 15? A long time.

20? I have to tell you kind of a funny story. So I go back, and I'm just supposed to go back and have the dinner and hobnob and meet sponsors and things like that. Eddie Marans was nice enough to have me come back. And so I show up, and I've just got my little duffel bag, I'd flown into LA for the evening and do that. And he says, hey, champ, by the way, you're playing tomorrow morning.

I said, well, pro, that's great. I'd love to play Bel Air, but I don't have any clubs. I have no shoes.

I have no... Game? Anything. Oh.

So I said to him, I said, well, you can use my stuff. Oh, no. I'm 6'3 at Eddie's.

Oh, no, no, no, no. 5'3. 5'3, yeah.

5'6, whatever he is. So I just started chuckling. He says, no, you're playing tomorrow. You're playing with Freddie Couples.

So I don't care if I go out there with a peewee plastic set. I'm going out. Yeah, that's right. I'm going to play.

Right on. And so actually, ex teammate of ours, Brad Bell, was playing in the morning or afternoon opposite of whatever the heck I was playing. So I got to use his stuff, and it was semi in the same range as I play, but one fun part there. So I tee off with Freddie Couples on the first hole. I rip it down the middle.

I hit a four and about three feet and tap it in for eagle. So that was the start out. I don't even... Hey, what did Fred make? Not an eagle. Right. There you go.

Okay. Let's end this story right there. I'll tell you, it was fun playing with him. Took Freddie Couples down meat. I'll tell you it was fun.

One up after one. You talking, and I know you play with him. You've been around him.

You played with you when you did play with him. That guy could play, and that guy could bomb it. The holes that we would know so well from Bell Air playing at UCLA, and here he's out there maybe the first time or second time, whatever, that he's even played the golf course. He's making mincemeat out of holes that would take us to our knees. That 14th hole, he says, I'm just gonna pound a cut out there, and then he pulls out a four and whips it on the green.

I'm thinking, oh my gosh, how does he even pull this? I would love to go back and play the golf course now without this added distance that we have. It had to be back nine with a bear back then.

Gosh, what do we figure, Pearl? It was 400 yards longer than the front nine and two shots harder. The front nine was par 36, back par 34. It was just a great place to work in your game.

I mean, you had to learn a lot of shots and a lot of playing. Yep. I can remember seeing a buried... I'd never seen a buried lie before in a bunker. I'm like, do I get a drop of that?

And all these guys are laughing at me like, what's going on with this kid from Missouri? I was happy to get in the bunker to stay out of that Baranca. Oh, man.

The Baranca was the worst. No doubt. Well, that's gonna do it for the back nine. Stay tuned.

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Mike Duffy's our official home of the 19th hole. Love having Mike on board. We got a Whackin' Chase segment coming up. We're back with another episode of Whackin' Chase, and I think I've got this name right. Moochie.

Whoa. Moochie. How many Moochies you got?

I know a Moochie. Hey, Moochie. How you doing? I am great.

How about you guys? We're having a blast. Thanks for calling in, Moo. We appreciate it. Well, I love your show.

I think you guys are doing a great job, but I really have two serious questions for you. Okay, so just for everybody, so they know what's going on, we're pleasantly surprised by Jay's sister, Moochie, calling in, but she's got serious questions, so let them rip because they- My sister's a good athlete. I can tell you that.

She could smash a softball like you have never seen. Love that. Love that. So we have an athlete on the line.

We love that. Okay. My name, as you guys know, I've only played about 10 years, so my first question is this, and it's really driving me insane. I find that I lose distance, like when I'm my driver. It doesn't happen all the time, but I find I lose a little bit of distance because my ball fades. Now, listen, it's no slice, boys, I'm not slicing it.

It just goes up in the air and it looks like it's going to go 50 yards further and then just drop and goes a little bit right, but I don't want you guys to think I'm slicing it by anything. Okay. So that's one- Can I tell you Moo's competitive too? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Obviously we know who's going to control this conversation, but I'll do the best I can to get my questions in. Exactly. Exactly. So you said, Moo, you said you had two. You want to throw the other one out there so that- Oh, sure. The other one is I'm not crazy about ever being in the rough.

I mean, I just, I don't know if it's Fescue or some kind of crazy Bermuda or what it is, but I always try to use my hybrid, even if I could get in there with my three wood, I use a four hybrid because I find I can get it out of there, but as you know, I play with my husband and quite honestly, I'd like to quiet him down a little bit about this shot. So back to the competitive edge. So once you quiet her husband down, that's one thing she's- Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Moo.

We're not in charge here. Hey, Brad. Brad, put Moo on the payroll. What'd you hear?

Can somebody... Wait, you leave, Brad. She's obviously directing this dang show. What? You guys are getting paid? What?

Who gets paid? What? Wait a second. I didn't read that. Okay.

Okay. So I'm told by my husband, who I love playing with, that I'd love to quiet him down about this particular situation I have. When I'm in the rough, he goes, you're just not hitting down on the ball. You got to hit down on the ball.

And when I do what I think he's telling me to do, it looks like I'm chopping wood. So what I would like to know is I don't have a feel for that. I mean, I know what it means to hit down on the ball and hit the ball first, but I just haven't gotten that down. I just have no feel for that.

So what I'm wondering, is there like a little backyard drill or something that you could tell me to work on so I could get a feel for that shot? So my job is to kind of summarize here. So on the Golf with Jay Delson show, on the whack and chase portion, we asked people to give us one question.

So there's three in front of us right now, so we appreciate that. Fades it, fades it, no slice, wants it to go further. Stay out of the rough. How do we stay out of the rough? And when we're in the rough, how do we hit it on the rough?

So I have to ask you the next question, which is really a three-part question, because yours is a three-part question. What are your expectations? What would you like to happen relative to your fades, which aren't really slices, staying out of the rough, which is probably pretty easy. You just want to stay out of the rough. And what is your expectation of when you're in the rough to be able to get out?

Well, I just want to get better. I mean, I know you're going to, nobody likes being in the rough. I'd like to hit it straight every single time and be in the fairway, but I wouldn't mind, you know, am I not turning on the ball on the drive?

What am I doing for that drive to die like that and not, I'm not slicing it. The rough look, I don't want to be in the rough. You guys don't want to be in the rough. Everyone hates the rough. The rough is the rough. I don't care about that. Just get me out of the rough.

Okay. Let me ask you this. I got to interject here.

You guys are talking way too much and I'm the damn host of the show. So when you, when you hit a softball and you were a dead hundred percent pull hitter, you smashed balls. No one taught me, nobody taught me how to hit to the opposite field. I think I could have if somebody would have taught me, but I never hit the ball right at the shortstop.

Nope. You hit so many balls on the line and everything. So when you're, when you're thinking about, so we're going to relate your first question back to the softball, uh, uh, the way you used to hit a softball with getting the barrel of the bat. So when you, when you smash those balls to left field and it, I can tell you guys are brother or sister, cause he's not following the rules and the pace of the show and Moochie's not following the rules and pace of the show. Look, Brad, I'm going to take a break. You're going to finish up with these two.

You take a month off. And my mouth is just hanging open because I'm like, Oh my God, it's like, Oh, I got it. Yeah. So, so when the barrel of the, when you hit balls hard to left field, you got, you could feel the barrel of the back end out in front of you. Right? Right. Right. So when the ball's going out to right field or your balls fading a little move the front of the golf club related to the bat angle, and it's just, it'd be, it'd be like you just being late with your swing for your baseball, for your softball.

So what that means is you just want to try to get the, the club head through the hitting area just a little bit sooner in relation to your swing. And I'm already going to solve them. We didn't even ask it. Moo, any more questions?

Exactly. I tried to point that out, but the two of you, I can tell your brother and sister, we got a little family dynamic going on. My zest to just join the show got me all out of whack. I'm in the backyard right now. I'm ready to go. I'm getting my glove on and going to the back to play. So Moo, one of the things we ask people, so Jay just help you with something very serious to help you with that piece right there. And before he goes to solve the piece about how to hit it out of the rough, got to ask you some very strategic questions. So tell us your best golf story, best golf experience. Tell us something that really clicks when you think of golf, um, that you'll remember for the rest of your life.

Boy, I don't know. I mean, I, I, the best golf story for the rest of my life for this year, I had a hole in one, but actually it wasn't because I hit the ball out of bounds on my first ball, second ball. I didn't know that my husband and I said, is that a hole in one and this is the kind of man he is. No, you got a three. So that's the most recent, my most recent memorable story was a par three, hit my first ball out of bounds, so, uh, put it up again, hit it, got a hole in one. Well, I think that's a great story. Now that's the second person in the short history of whack and chase that we've asked about their best shot or best memory ever. And they couldn't remember it first and both of them said they hold out the shot. They made a hole in one. Patrick, I remember about five, six weeks ago, that cracks me up. There was a guy that came on the show and we asked him and he was stumped by the question. John asked him and then he goes, Oh yeah, I forgot I made a hole in one a few years ago.

So, so, so moo moo, I've got a question for you. What's your best sports memory? Forget golf. Cause this is about sports, life, whatever the case is. What's your best sports memory ever. And I know your, your children were some pretty spectacular athletes, let alone your father. So I know there's a lot of competition.

I thought it was what I did the best. So what's in that whole family? No, no. And I'm expanding the question for neither one of you guys listen at all. I'm expanding the question, Moochie.

Hey, if you insult the host one more time, we're going to whack and chase you right off this show. Oh, God. Boy, I'll tell you, there is a lot.

We have time for one. Probably it for myself at a young age realizing that I like in our school, they gave the award to the best athlete for the primary grades, best athletes for prep and best athletes for academics. And I got it for the primary grades and I kind of knew them that like I loved it and I was pretty good at it. That's awesome. And isn't that cool how we have those experiences, whatever it might be, that's impressive and they can kind of live with that forever. So that's absolutely awesome. Thanks. It's true when you're young like that and it's so impactful. Yeah. Love it.

It's so impactful. Okay. Any questions, Jay has come up with some tips on how to help you getting it out of the rough. So one, Jay, how does she handle her husband's suggestions on how to get it out of the rough and what should she actually do?

As much as the husband's suggestions are usually haywire, he's on the right track. So what happens, Moo, is you're what we would call more of a sweeper or a picker of the ball. You don't make a whole lot of divots when you swing, do you?

Never made one. Yeah. So what happens when you get in the rough is you have to get steeper like Tim, my brother-in-law, is suggesting. But Moo, you have to make some adjustments to go with that. You have to move your ball position probably a little farther, oh man, I'm going to say, I'll get a shorter iron and probably move it a little farther forward to try to get the ball up in the air. Oh, okay. Otherwise, too far back, you get a better steeper angle, but you're just going to drive it into the rough. Gotcha.

Right. And so Moo, when you get steep, you have to lift up your backswing, okay, so you're going to feel like the club head is lifting up away from the ball, and then drop it straight on the ball. Why you feel like you're chopping wood is because you are going to come down steeper, but you have to really make a hard effort to turn your lower half through the ball.

That'll help shallow the club a little bit as it comes in, and help keep it moving through there so you don't feel like you're just slamming into the ground and stopping. It's an unusual motion, and because you lift up your arms, it probably is making you stop turning your lower body. I'm 100% certain of that. Yeah, you're right. Okay, so wait, because you're lifting, because I'm lifting my arms?

Yep. Because you're trying to get a little steeper, like Tim is saying, hit straight down on the ball. And so you're trying to hit straight down on it, and because the grass is longer, it gets a little in the way. Yeah, another way to think of it too is, what's the shortest path with the least amount of grass to get to that golf ball? And so if you're coming in shallow, meaning kind of parallel to the ground, you're going to hit a lot of grass, because it's the rough. So you're going to have to feel like it's almost straight down, but aggressively straight down is going to make the ball go up. Right, and Moo, the other thing is, mess around with the ball position, because I want to tell you to move the ball back in your stance, because I think you're strong enough to get steeper on it, move it back in your stance, and then hit the ball first and turn through it. And every once in a while, the ball will come out screaming. I agree. It's called a flyer.

Okay, I'm trying it tomorrow. Go out in the backyard. You have a beautiful backyard, I've seen it not too long ago, and if you go making a bunch of divots, your old man's going to come out there and whack you in the head with a six hundred. Well, you know what?

I'd love to be able to do a divot. I've done one in my life, but I figured, you know, if that's how it is, that's how it is. Go practice in the backyard and see if Tim likes that or not, Moo.

Okay, so let me make sure before we get off. On that drive, I'm not following through, is pretty much what you're saying? You're not getting the club head through squarely. The club head is going from the outside across the ball and putting left to right spin on it. Just slightly. So what you need to do in baseball terms is you need to swing much more down.

Put the head of that club and swing it more out at the pitcher or even a little towards the second baseman and make sure you bring the club head with you, meaning the club head closes a little bit and you'll start hitting some draws and you'll get an extra fifteen yards. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. Okay. Oh, great. I'm excited.

I'm seriously going to try it. Turn the lights on in the backyard. Let's go. Let's go.

Thanks Moochie. All right, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Bye bye.

And how about that? I'll tell you what. That lady is intense.

That lady loves her golf and I just have a feeling she is quite the competitor. There's no question about that. Well that's going to wrap up not only the 19th hole, but that's going to wrap up this show. Perle, welcome back.

Oh. It's like I've been gone for a month. Six minutes, you had to carry the show by yourself.

It was a beautiful six minutes to me. Thanks so much for keeping us together as much as you possibly can and working the board for us. We want to hear from you. Write us at Jay at jdelsongolf.com and hit them straight, St. Louis. That was golf with Jay Delson brought to you by Whitmore Country Club. Tune in next Sunday for more from Jay John and the other pros and experts from the golf world.

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