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25 years on the PGA Tour and a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America, Jay Delsing brings you his perspective on one of the world's greatest games as a professional golfer and network broadcaster.

It's the game that connects the pros and the average Joes brought to you by Whitmore Country Club. Golf with Jay Delsing is now on 101 ESPN. Good morning, this is Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host, Jay Delsing. With me is my buddy, longtime friend, Caddy. John Pearl, it's probably good morning. Good morning, Jay.

Glad to be here. Well, we formatted a show just like A Round of Golf, the opening segment we call the On the Range segment. It's brought to you by Golf Discount.

Golf Discount is where St. Louis shouts for all of its golf needs. Pearl, let's get our social media fix out of the way because we both love social media so much. I know you're constantly taking pictures of your food and telling everybody what you're doing. So our Twitter handle is at JayDelsing. Facebook is Golf with Jay Delsing and Jay Delsing Golf LinkedIn is just Jay Delsing. And wow, it's a lot of Jay Delsing's at the beginning of the show and our Instagram account is.

Okay, let's go. Instagram. You have an Instagram account, right? I don't. Me? You got an Instagram account?

I've never had an Instagram account. Okay. Well, good. I heard it's in though. It's popular.

That's probably why we looked at it. That's what the kids say. It's lit up. It's lit in here.

We got to be woke to even be able to have an Instagram account. Yeah, that's right. Well, so, Pearly, you're here today. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Fantastic. Was it weird to see Pearly walk in the building like that? I didn't recognize him before. I know.

I mean, like, oh, that's pretty awesome. So you guys still try to carry on a show without me? We're trying, but it's not working very well. We need to have you back. I get why I'm getting the pushback because it's just tough to continue on. Right.

It is. So welcome back, man. And we feel great about having you. So let's talk about this. We got a lot of neat stuff to cover on the show.

Solheim Cup didn't go our way this year. We had Julie on. We talked about it. We got to cover it a little bit. Some really interesting stuff happened in there. We got a new edition of Whackin' Chase on the Mike Duffy 19th hole.

Got an update from Phil Franks, our buddy that's in the race car business and helping to end Alzheimer's. Really neat stuff from Phil. And we talked a little bit about a couple weeks ago about the young studs that are playing the tour, the young guys. We got Matthew Wolf. We got Colin Murakawa and Victor Hovland.

And we may have overlooked this young man from Chile, Joaquin Niemann. So we'll talk a little bit about him and also remind St. Louis about a cool golf event coming for the next four years. So let's start Pearl.

Let's start with Solheim Cup. Julie came on. It was nice for her to come on the show.

She's gone out there and won the prior two cups, one over in Germany and one in Iowa. And they went over to Scotland. And did you have any, did you get to look at the weather at all? Every time I turned it on, it was brutal. And they were hitting shots all over the place. I felt terrible for them. You know, weather is going to be part of the game, but it was wreaking havoc on that play. What she said, what Julie said, because she had a very young team, you know, and she went out on a limb with some of her picks and, and she said, Man, I thought about this and thought about this and of all the things that could happen.

This was the thing that she dreaded the most. So the golf course they were playing, they figured was going to kind of be a birdie fest. That's normal weather.

But you know, you played in Europe, I played in Europe, you can get anything. Not only did they get wind, but they got Arctic cold temperatures. It was freezing out there. It was freezing.

It was miserable. And as any avid watcher of the game, when there's wind, that's like the one thing that the golf gods can kind of get back at. You know, you guys are so good. The ladies are so good that almost any conditions, but you win. And then I would say maybe one of the next ones might be cold. I agree.

You know, I actually thought about that because you don't see that all that often. But I think, and then of course, the combination of the two, the rain, you can get by, especially with a great caddy. Yeah, absolutely. If I have enough towels and a big enough umbrella. Right. And I'm paying attention. Right. But that's kind of hard, but you can get by with that. But now when it's raining all day and you're freezing and it's wind.

And you know what, if it's really windy, you're not going to keep everything dry anyway. Nope. Nope. It's just a matter of time, right? We've all, we've had that discussion.

We try to slow down a lot in that rain, but, yes, rain. But, okay, so let's just kind of lay this thing out. So it's a hell of a match. It's a hell of a match. We're, we're, the final score was 14-5, 13-5.

So I mean, it was. Okay. So we go to the 18th hole. Suzanne Patterson has got an eight foot putt for Birdie to win her match against Maria Alex. The score is tied 13 and a half, 13 and a half. And if she misses, the match goes to 14-14 and whomever won the year before retains the cup.

So that would have been U.S. wins. She makes it. She makes this putt. Suzanne Patterson, by the way, was a captain's pick and has had an awful time of golf.

Awful time of golf. Well, she's also one of the more controversial ones out there too, with her surly attitude. Is that how you would say antics? And she's a little, there's some games.

There's a lot of things you really like about her. There's no doubt. But she's, a couple of years ago, I can't remember quite what the controversy was. It was in the, it was in the Solheim Cup as well. It was over a putt that shouldn't have been, that wasn't conceded.

And it was like six inches long. And one of the U.S. players picked it up and she goes, I didn't give that to you. And I remember her partner, one of the English girls, she got all upset. She was so uncomfortable that her partner had done that, even though they won the hole.

She was, I think she was actually visibly crying and she had a tough time handling the whole thing. And if you look back at that, that was in Germany, two cups ago, and it was a turning point in the match and the U.S. made a strong comeback and won that match. A little karma.

There was a little karma action back then. So Suzanne Patterson knocks this putt in, Supreme Joy, all these jumping around. And what does she do? Retired from the game.

No way. She retired from the game. She won't. Too competitive. I think she just started a family and she got some other things going on.

So I think there's some other stuff going on. There's no way. She's way too talented.

She's way too young. I'm placing my, what am I placing, what kind of bet, a golf ball bet here with you. A sleeve of golf balls that she's absolutely coming back. Well, let me ask you this. Coolest way to retire?

That'd be a great way. You make this putt, you're playing for your country, your whole squad. She makes it and then says, I'm done. Yeah, I don't know. It's so hard to think of, I don't know, I've struggled with this, thinking of retiring. It's just, oh man, there's that thing that says athletes kind of die two deaths.

No question. When you think about your playing and your competitive days coming to an end, it's just not easy to deal with that. Oh, it's funny.

It's that age as well and how exciting it was and making a transition. So she'll find, maybe she'll do a radio show over in Sweden or something like that to kind of keep her golf game going. Maybe so.

Hell, it can't be that hard. You and I are trying to throw it in there. Anyway, I just thought that was pretty cool. I felt it for Julie. I mean, they're right there and the fact that she knocked the putt in, you got to take your hat off to her. The fact that she retired, I was like, what? Is that going to happen or not? So, okay, so let's talk about our buddy Phil Franks, who, Logistics is his company.

They do legal documents all around the world. This guy is one cool dude. So, Phil, this guy is one cool dude. So he, his wife has been stricken with this horrible Alzheimer's disease and he has had a race team and they decided to forego a bunch of advertising on their car and what he's going to do and either to memorialize or to just honor, his wife is still battling the disease, their names and their birthdays.

Love it. So what happened was, they've got 89 names on their car this year. They also had something really cool. The number 82 BMW from Bimmer World.

They were their teammates last season. They made room on their car for 23 names. And all those names are getting matched by Phil's company and by James Clay, who's the CEO of Bimmer World. And so, yeah, it's just really cool. He and his driver Nick were interviewed on Torque Show hosted by Tommy Kendall and Justin Bell. And it was just great publicity for this thing.

And in a great sign of solidarity and sportsmanship, over 40 cars had the race and Alzheimer badges displayed on their cars in support and running around the track. That's awesome. Well, you always said that he's a mover and a shaker. He makes things happen. He sticks with it. He's creative. He absolutely does.

It's the things that people can kind of jump on with and support. That's awesome. Yeah, they're in sixth place in the championship. So they're kind of out of it for winning the thing. But there's one more race in October.

It's October 12th, Road Atlanta. It's only $250 to donate to this great cause. All the funds are matched with their charitable partners at UCLA and the Jim Nance National Alzheimer Center. I mean, we got to mention Jim. Jim's on this. Let me mention this website, too. You can go to Facebook.com backslash Philip.franks. And it's F-R-E-N-G-S. Or you go to their website.

It is R, the letter R, and then it's the number two, N-E-N-D-A-L-Z.org. So go to that. Check it out. It's really cool.

250 bucks. You can get a name of a loved one or some friend or family member that's struggling with this horrible disease. These CEOs are matching your donations.

They're going to UCLA. Jim Nance's father, one of the reasons Jim Nance started his golf broadcast, Hello Friends, was in honor of his dad and this Alzheimer's disease. And they were always making new friends.

And it got to a point where his dad would listen to the golf broadcast but didn't know why he was listening to it. It's, ah, man. It's really tough stuff. But these guys are doing great work. Great work. Absolutely.

And we're all just fortunate, Pearl, that we don't have this in our families. Nope. All right. So that was kind of cool.

All right. So, you know, there's a golf tournament coming to St. Louis. Yep. Four years.

Full field event. And... Can you announce it yet? I can't announce it yet. You've been teasing. I know. I'm teasing. Well, I'm going to tell you where. How long are you supposed to tease for?

It's going to be at Norwood. So you are not. So now, are you teasing now or is that true? It is true.

Are you allowed to tell him or did you just break his side of silence? I just felt all the peer pressure. No. Yeah. It's going to be at Norwood. Four years. It's just going to be... Now, what's Norwood going to have to do, or if anything, it's such a good golf course. What are they going to have to do to prep for it? Are they going to have to be changing anything? Is there any new tees? Are they going to change any greens around? Yeah.

I don't think... They're not going to have to do anything with the tees. They're not going to have to do anything with the greens. They have the best greens in the state year in and year out. But there are going to be some trees taken down, which is actually going to be a good thing.

And if you talk to the superintendents that really know what's going on, the trees are gorgeous and you hate to see them go, but they interfere with their roots, interfere with the greens and things like that. They should go regardless of this tournament coming. That's right. And this is going to be a great way and reason for them to go. And then when you get to go out to Norwood or any place like Bell Reef and see the structures that are built and the stands and all the hospitality, it's really awesome. That's awesome. That's exciting. It's such a great facility. And I think the guys will love it.

Spectators will love it. What's the biggest event, I think years and years ago, didn't they have some big events there? PGA Championship. Oh, that's pretty big. What year was that? It was the 35th PGA Championship, but I think it was 1948. And you know who won?

Ben Hogan. Sweet. So there's going to be plenty of talk about that, I'm sure. Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's going to wrap up the On The Range segment.

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Okay so so Jan we got to talk about this. We we gave some props to the younger guys these young studs that are coming up on the tour that won golf tournaments and we got a new name to add to that list. 20 year old guy from Chile. His name is Joaquin Nieman.

He's he's from Santiago. He's already made four million bucks in his career. He's played 44 events on tour. Nine top tens. How's that sound?

Amazing and it just kind of a a thin heart. I'm trying to remember the first time I saw him. I think he was uh like the south of South American amateur stuff and he qualified. Didn't he get in the Masters maybe even? I think he did.

I think you're right. He played well there and he's turned. I think this is his third year. I mean could you imagine playing on the PGA Tour when you're 18 years old. It's just uh just rocking.

I mean it's just uh fantastic. And already having a win. I know he's 20 years old.

He's got to win. He's got to be in that conversation. That same conversation with Matthew Wolf and and Morakawa and Hovland and and just uh um you know you look at the PGA Tour and you look at how this thing is fed through the the international golf programs. Exactly.

The the college programs. I mean these guys are so they're so ready when they come up. You know that's the you know again he's he's had five or six years of incredibly high uh quality competition probably throughout the world even coming into this thing and to my point I'm just looking up now 154 pounds and the guy absolutely smashes it and he's just he's just a skinny nothing and he and he just plays very wiry and uh similar uh stature to like Justin Thomas you know and just just smashes a great short game clearly.

I mean you don't make four million bucks without having a lot of your uh your ducks in a row. Plus having that but having that win is just is so incredibly impressive to get that under your belt. You know when you watch it on tv it's hard to understand how tough it is to get that win. It's it's it's truly unbelievable and then when they come out super young and do that and we've had a couple of those this uh the last couple years uh that that that's the part and it changes their world. All of a sudden they got to feel like they're belonging. Obviously gives them a couple years exemption.

That way there's a whole different place to play from two years worth of exemption than uh chasing it and worrying about getting your card all the time. Right Pearl there's also the contractual stuff that are going to come in now all of a sudden you're a PGA Tour winner and everything just gets multiplied and you're going to get so much of these things thrown at you. We got to talk while we're talking about these youngsters.

We've got to talk. Last uh at the Sanderson Farms we did uh uh we spotlighted this young guy um who's taking a different path to the PGA Tour. His name is uh Oskar Batya. This young man has decided I'm not going to college. I'm going to turn pro and I'm going to play I'm going to just play golf.

Number one ranked amateur in the world. What do you think about that him going straight Jay? You know what John I I can't say that I think it's a great idea.

I really can't. I mean I just don't understand why you wouldn't the college experience is I mean do we have any fun at UCLA? We had a lot of fun uh some level of maturity going in there and I think you talked about this a while ago then doesn't uh they um nah what did what did Kevin now what did he come up with as far as saying hey he regretted it or he absolutely regretted it. Kevin now did the same thing and Kevin now had so much growing up to do he I mean I I'm not going to tell you the stories but didn't endear himself to me and uh several others just he just didn't understand and think about it though I mean he uh Kevin now is a Korean American and uh just had his parents closely by everything he did you know it just was uncomfortable. You could just tell there there wasn't that maturity which is kind of nice to see now guy's a great player now and now when he's kind of come into his own he has maturity he handles himself better in different situations and you're kind of happy for the guy now but for the longest time it was just kind of a tough to watch that. It was tough to watch it so um so Batya um man it's just makes you wonder about this youth movement on the PGA Tour he played down at Sanderson Farm so he did not make the cut the cut fell at three under par and this 18 year old shot even par so he missed by three and um followed him closely he just signed a new contract with Callaway so Callaway swooped right in and uh said yeah we're gonna go ahead and support this uh and you mentioned this um uh you were talking about George Gankes the uh swing coach he uh that's the name that's that's who uh who this this guy works with on his golf swing yeah so um it's just interesting to kind of track these guys we we did this earlier on a champions uh uh tour kind of update pearl we were gonna uh look and follow Hal Sutton because we talked about wanting to end the game and leave the game properly do you remember that yep we talked about that man that was months and months that was even in the in the winter months and unfortunately I mean we can pull up what Hal's done on the on the champions tour and it's been it it is not gone the way he's wanted it to go he was hoping to get uh uh he lost a bunch of weight he was hoping to find his game and and um he didn't find his game he didn't didn't find much and it's you know how tentative it is at that point there's there's a lot going on it's that transition uh in career it's that transition age-wise uh how the you know bodies uh change from that 55 to 65 uh range however we're experiencing as it goes but I mean there's there's a lot your body's got to hold up to be able to make it out there right and I don't know recently I haven't seen uh seen him as far as how much he's taking care of himself but and some of the guys can really not be that fit and somehow kind of keep on going so uh but you don't need much of an injury or or much of an ailment to hold you back from being able to uh to compete out there no I totally agree let's talk about something so uh this topic I mean the champions tour every year these guys turn 50. Jon you know there's a new set of people turning 50 and some guys come out and just tear it up you got a guy like Chris DiMarco he's not beating anybody no you got a guy like Sean McKeel you know he had a an interesting career won the pj championship but some of those guys let me ask you yeah so either one of those uh they didn't play that much at the end of their regular career up to 50 I'll tell you what you step out of that competition that lifestyle for two three four five six years and then oh I'm just going to go tee it up and I'm going to be back in the game and ready for that competition uh I think it's just really really a lot to ask oh my god there's no question we talked about this for me yeah and I wound up grinding my way over on that at the time the nationwide you know playing against all those I'll never forget calling you one time you're like hey nice playing I'm like thanks I played with two guys that were 23 years old and I'm 49 I mean can you imagine our big thing with with you was get the competition you got to get out there and get the reps and if it happens to be on the nationwide or a state open yeah then so be it uh but to to not get in that habit of having to hit a certain tee shot having to hit a pot having to hit a tough shot over a bunker and then you're going to just play with your buddies and then go out there and start playing on the tour no I'll tell you what very seldom it happens but very very seldom you know another buddy scott dunlop who um he continued to play he's been playing grinding and playing forever and he went out there and it's just done wonderful it's just that doesn't overly surprise me no he's he's that's that's very much him he is a journeyman golfer great player and just kind of kept on going for forever you know you didn't see his name for a bunch of you and I knew where he was because we were around him once in a while oh yeah uh and so I think it's fantastic that he's having a great senior uh tour uh career and I think it's one of those very much deserving he worked to be in that position yeah yep he sure did um all right cool there is uh october's kind of uh we talked about this with the wraparound season do we like the ra I don't know it's all we're all over the place it's golf there's good golf if you're some of the sponsors and the wraparound events in you know september october november how do you how you feeling I mean it's hard to get a draw if your field isn't strong I don't know you know first of all and that's that's sad because there's great golf absolutely great golf but are the names the names that we're used to uh getting you know plugged all the non-stop so so last week's uh uh excuse me um where am I at here northern trust is that what I'm thinking jay no sanderson farm yep so munoz uh m on streelman ortiz I mean right that's unfortunately not going to draw and folks that was the top those were the top five finishers they can absolutely play they can play their ass they don't get it's not about the quality of golf it's just about the star power and people love the star power well here's something that'll get your attention star power wise in japan there's a new event october 21st calling the called the challenge japan skins how's this for um for a foursome we got tiger woods roy mcelroy jideki matsuyama and jason day i mean i i it's so cool it'll be a fun thing to watch it'll really be a fun thing to watch matsuyama is a rock star in japan he's he's only 23 years old or something girl he is just if his rhythm astounds me he almost takes a full second pause at the top of his swing throughout the bag very unconventional but i think i can play he can get hot i i covered him uh two of the four days that did the us open at erin hills and he was just brilliant around the greens had a top five finish i think there and i i was just so impressed with the power matched with the you know his uh ability to knock a putt in and um uh it's pretty how well he's done on this tour and you know again they do talk about it once in a while to their credit but to come from japan coming from another country and then maneuver around this country and i think his english is minimal if any and just to make all that happen and play at that high high level i think it's just spectacular yeah no it is it is spectacular and uh jason day's been an interesting story didn't have a a year that he's uh all that excited about and you know there's a bunch of um uh news for lack of a better term being made about steve williams coming to caddy for him you know steve williams is the uh most successful athlete from new zealand hey there's a race car driver too though right yeah does that does that count as an athlete i don't know about a pair of sixes to draw from that's not good but it's a fun guy though and obviously he's seen he's seen some he's seen some pretty special golf in it in his last 20 or so years yeah that's right he could write several books and probably wouldn't shouldn't though yeah no hopefully he won't um but he and jason day split up and he said you know it just wasn't working it's just um this trying to blend the old style and the new style because steve williams had this they called it a style in the article i read but it just a way that he thought this thing needed to go and needed to play and it just didn't uh it's not up to him nope it is that's always a bit of a problem yeah it is especially when you know you've had this the sort of success that steve williams had but now you're you're not driving the car man you're not you're not this isn't your boat you're not you're you however i don't mean to be disrespectful but this player has to be able to express it the way he wants to i think so and if you start getting if you start you know what pearl we've talked about this before where they talk about how much a team it is but if if steve is seeing it a different way that that can create a lot of indecision it's still it's a team but you have to play your role yeah and to your point i mean it's it's not about that and sometimes you can as a caddy plug into your player but you can't make him feel like he should hit that high cut five iron if he can't feel in his bones he shouldn't swing on it unless you can hand a club over to the caddy and say and you were probably the best playing caddy that ever went out there i didn't want to hit that high cut in that situation well um you know what i've got a really cool jack nicholas senior skin story we'll talk about on the back nine when we come back perfect but that's going to wrap up that's what is that called pearly what do we call it in the radio business looks into us man we uh we're talking about instagram and teases radio teases let's get a wrap up the front nine this is golf with j delsing on 101 espn quick note we just got a call from our friend joe sheezer at usa mortgage he said the rates are still below four percent and if you mention golf with j delsing 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golf cart fees are already included in that membership they've never had assessments there's no food minimums and you get bummer that's the best part of bummer no you know the best part for me i like that you have all those different golf courses that you don't know that's a big deal i think they get to move around and and be a member each time i like that it is and and um they've got uh skins game bummer and the golf shop staff are on skins games and uh members tournaments there's a couples tournaments there's husband wives events um for the kids they have a kids club and that pearly that is really becoming popular not even only in st louis but around the country where you can drop your children off they can play golf or they can go to the pool they can play video games you can take your wife or girlfriend or significant other and go have a drink or go play golf or do whatever the heck you want to do and everybody's having a great time out there that's the way to do it yeah it's a great family atmosphere they've got um a great swimming uh pool and and fitness 24-hour fitness complex they have holiday parties that it's um when you think of families and you think about where you want to go and where you want to be it's a place like this where you know you and i grew up around the game and this would have been just right in our wheelhouse absolutely and you can find them at whitmore golf.com we're talking about the the new event in japan in october it's october 21st it's called the challenge the japanese skins game do we even have a skins game skins game still going in the u.s we don't have it kind of kind of wore itself out would you say yeah it kind of did it started with jack and arnold and tom watson and gary player and gary player kind of infringed on a rule in tom watson's opinion do you remember this at desert mountain no oh man huge hullabaloo huge hullabaloo you remember any of the facts oh i do okay let's hear hang on i get it well there's uh there was a piece of grass that was moved that was not was connected still there wasn't there was like mode that wasn't supposed to be motor trimmed i think it was yeah i think it was untrimmed it was kind of long and kind of in the way and so he molded or trimmed it they did and um yeah they got uh they didn't like that they didn't like that even in a skins competition yeah it was that ever happened before i don't remember it happening but i can tell you a cool story so i'm in i had to go to maui in january one year that's too bad that sucked and um doing some entertaining for the senior skin so the so people like me like i'm like a doo-wop singer you know in the background where nobody yeah you know and and the main events coming where jack nicholas has come in nick price was there omera couples um travino uh tom watson it was cool and then i was there you know taking care of the i was doing all the you know come on let's go play 18 although i'll hang out with you i loved it anyway so i'm watching this skin the skins game and the guys are practicing and messing around and couples and price are partners and i think nick or uh um o'mere is a partner with tom watson i mean it's really really cool and uh jack is partners with um arnold and arnold is just he's still the king he's aged a little bit but at this time but jack gets into the game and the entire mood the entire energy the entire world changed what do you mean he got into the game you mean he started focusing he was late in the and the guys were messing around and he came this was before the actual competition part came oh fuzzy was playing and um it was it was just a a bunch of the names you know from my generation a little before my generation our generation and um jack gets in there and starts you know practicing with them and they're playing and they got some little side action going on and everybody just takes a back seat i've never seen that before i mean those egos and those guys with their game and jack comes in and jack is you know jack didn't age nearly as well as arnold you know just in terms of strength and power but jack is still jack and he just had that mental thing commands a certain level of attention he did and it was crazy because all of a sudden guys started missing four foot punts and i'm like wait a minute yeah what's up with that and it was it was pretty cool so they come down they come they come down to the stretch and they're all the all the games are on the line they get to this par three and couples is hitting like an eight iron and watson's hitting 700 jack pulls out like a little five hits it in there about three feet knocks it in wins the whole thing isn't that fascinating i mean the guy he even in his much later years he could still seem to make the putt he could still seem to make the shot i know just i guess you got it you got it you expect you're going to do it you're going to do it well and and it's it's it's something like he knew he was going to do it so much that you knew yeah exactly and and it's a that's that's a double whammy yeah it is a double whammy um yeah so um pretty cool stuff um we're not going to talk about pat perez's wife putting on social media the the the tab i what i know i missed this no you're not gonna talk about it a little bit yeah i don't know they went that dinner and in vegas like the mgm four of them what the bill come to take a guess and then just double it because you're not even going to be in a plan ten thousand twelve thousand some people shouldn't be allowed to go to vegas well of course that's how they have those nice big buildings and they're just in tuxes because people go do those kinds of things yeah she took pictures of everything who cares oh my gosh crazy all right but here's something i do kind of want to talk about player of the year awards came out and the players voted on their player of the of the year and the nod went to rory over brooks and the folks in the in the regular media i wouldn't consider us ray we're kind of irregular media wouldn't you say are we media i don't know what if you know how do you remember in young frankenstein where they had abby normal yes the hearts were abby normal i was like i feel like we're kind of a little bored the abby normal stuff but also so now is brooks hopefully not commented on this yeah brooks sent him a text i guess and said congratulations but i guess some people were um saying that this is ridiculous and i'm thinking how can how can that be ridiculous i mean there's people are feeling like brooks got hosed out of player of the year i think they're trying to make something out of nothing they seem to like that back and forth i wish they would just go play golf it it gets me yeah it gets me sometimes they call him instead of brooks that you know once in a while they'll miss it and call him bruce and then he gets like all you know rolls his eyes gets charged up it's like you're you're he's awesome i love watching that guy play just chill have a great time and quit caring what anybody else decided he decided that he's used all of this banter to his advantage by playing with a chip on his shoulder he said i'm i'm i'm gonna do this thing exactly the way i want to do it and if it makes some people uncomfortable so be it so what about the did you see the uh the espn the body issue yeah yeah what'd you think of that i i don't think about that stuff i just can't i just can't think about that stuff are you talking about his body oh i didn't see his girlfriend's oh oh really what were you focused on i was focused on his girlfriend's body no that i paid attention that wasn't in that that wasn't in it's the one i was talking about they had one with him and her in the same picture i don't know what you're talking about i don't care about the smut i'm in the sports the first thing that came out about him being in a in his speedo uh back back facing oh yeah and in her i'm like i only knew about him because somebody told me what you think about her thought i i like her whole body i didn't that was yeah that that just go play golf he's so much fun to watch play golf he's so competitive it's so cool the shots how he approaches the game i hope we focus on that rory had a spectacular year yeah i'll call it a coin flip it depends on how much you want to give for this tournament uh what weight here or what weight is that major and all that kind of stuff rory was absolutely phenomenal too let me ask you this about the uh the schedule change we talked about this probably at nauseum for some of our listeners but i still want to bring this up what do you mean schedule change did wrap around or you mean the major changes major change okay so schedule changed and brought the the pj championship into may tiger woods when they're playing north of the board north of what we'll call the hell i'm gonna say yeah i'm gonna see equator i'm gonna see north of florida if they're gonna play he's not gonna win that championship again because it's too cold you say yeah yeah you agree yeah i know every single time i've done anything to count this guy out he always comes back but i'm kind of out again i just don't think he physically i think everything else is there i just don't think he physically can go do it and i think i think you were starting to see it wear on him mentally emotionally i agree because it's just like can i can i get myself up and going for this again and then he kind of thinks he's there and then he plays a couple rounds and then he can't even keep going there well let me ask you this too he wins the masters what a phenomenal accomplishment as we all counted him out wins another major he plays six times after that really the masters is in april yeah how many how many did he play well none i don't think at all i mean and the other thing pearl what a difference in what he looked like physically looked like he was almost thrown back into that old body you know and all this i thought didn't you feel like some of the speed was gone some of the just the whole vibe of it looked like it was yeah it's tough it's it's tough we we'd all like them to play great for 20 more years but uh it's not happening yeah so great for the game and um we'll we'll see how that all um what that looks like um we had uh we should have could have showed you this picture there's this place in san antonio they had some trouble with wild hogs okay so you and i do you remember when we were down playing at um tucson national when we saw those javelina and they look like i mean so i have a dog and he's about 45 pounds it looked like a just a real scruffy kind of bigger dog maybe a 50 pound something like that kind of round kind of a round dog yeah so they had this they had these things um um these guys are out playing golf and like you know we're a little afraid of this um this noise that's coming from you know the side of the green here there's some bushes we can't see but it sounds like it could be something pretty substantial guys like just go play the game quit being so you know come on step up there's a 400 pound they call it a hog and i've never seen anything like this it's had tusks it took three men they got dogs they had to track this thing and i've never seen anything like it and we are going to talk about in our next show some of the craziest weirdest scariest fun things we're going to call it a show of extremes this is another radio tease and um i like that i like that idea and as far as the 400 pound hog it's a little scary i've seen a couple of shows and i think it was even called hog wilders there's like this whole family would chase after them with pickup trucks and guns and and lights and and what's wrong with you what what how do they do what how well they're doing it to uh to clear the pastures because they're they're killing other livestock or ruining fields or whatever the case is but it was intense stuff those things uh you get on the wrong side of those puppies it's mean so golfers are a little kind of wimpy sometimes on things anyway but on a 400 pound hog that it's okay to be looking i've never seen anything do you remember when we were fishing in alaska yeah sure we saw those bear yeah we gotta talk about that bear story uh in the next show too of course we are okay perfect i like it i can't wait for the next show yeah no that sounds good um well that's gonna wrap up the back nine this is golf with jay delsing on 101 espn urban chestnut brewing company is proud to be an official sponsor of 101 espn's newest show golf with our friend jay delsing just like jay urban chestnut is born right here in st louis with three local brewing and restaurant locations you won't travel far to sample straight from the source if you're heading out to the links this weekend or if you're just in the mood for a classic german-style beer grab a four-pack of our fresh refreshing swickle bavarian lager wherever craft beers are sold urban chestnut 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duffy's for being our official sponsor the 19th hole and we are going straight to our next version of whack and chase love it fellas the people can't get enough jerry is with us now for the next whack and chase hey jerry good morning and thanks for joining us good morning how are you guys doing we're doing well we're doing well where are you calling in from jerry st petersburg florida today the whack and chase is made from florida that is oh i love that st pete area believe it or not they have golf courses in florida i bet they do a lot of awfully nice i actually played uh university south florida my first year in college golf and i so i kind of know that area very well as a matter of fact i've got fond memories of the don caesare down there my buddies and i used to hop the fence from the beach and have a couple uh cold ones and hop back the fence and back to the beach what is really what is that it's don caesare is a great big famous uh hotel been around for forever and uh in college we thought that was a good place for us to hang out couldn't walk in the front door we couldn't leave in the front we couldn't leave the front door but we did well you got you probably have to have money to come in the front door yeah that's a problem had a little bit more than money there's other issues we were missing as well but hey let's get back to jerry and whack and chase here so on the show we're just uh jerry what do you what do you need help with your golf game what can jay help you with oh what what do i not need help with i mean i i've been a mess my whole life in golf i mean what this showed us last an hour and then we ain't got time for all that we'll cut you off jerry when we need to cut you off but uh if there's one thing that kind of gets under your craw or that kind of sets up the other issues and challenges in the game what is it what do you need help with shifting my weight forward i i'm always on my back foot and then i swing my arms to catch up and it causes a whole mirror of problems now that is a great question so as jay is a great one so now we got to ask the key questions to give jay the information beyond that that he can help you with so one of the things we we like to ask is what's your favorite golf story what's what's great something great that happened in golf for you or something that was really i don't know traumatic that happened in golf for you oh well playing's traumatic i guess i guess i guess you're sad you gotta narrow it down here a little bit you gotta narrow it down a little bit i don't know i've had uh i've had a lot of fun i've played uh you know i got to play on on the course at uh augusta a few years ago that was probably my best day of golf there was 75 degrees it was a beautiful walk it's absolutely the holy grail of golf and i i guess that would be my most my fondest golf memory is walking and playing at a at the uh augusta country club jerry what was what was the um what was your biggest takeaway uh um you know because augusta is it is a holy grail i mean what is there one thing that sticks out in your mind from that experience really two things for me one was just how absolutely immaculate everything is manicured it's absolutely beautiful and you see it on television and it's twice as pretty in person and then the elevation changes that you can't see on television when you're watching it when you're walking and you the course is much more they got much more elevation change than what you think it does when you're watching on television jerry the the 10th hole is almost like a you're skiing down there it's so up and down and the same with 18 i i felt exactly the same experience i cannot believe how much elevation change there is just on the golf course in general and then the greens were oh they're so they're so fast they're like pat like putting on concrete for me because i'm used to stuff that's much much slower you know just watching them go from one side to the other somebody stop that ball i get yeah exactly exactly so jerry a little bit more info for uh for jay to help uh figure this out for you so what do you shoot what if you have a handicap you if you know it or what do you what do you generally shoot yeah i'm about it i'm about a 20 i'm about a 20 so i'm going to shoot your really low 90s once in a while i'll get lucky and get an eight in front of it but not very often you know get an 89 or something but 92 somewhere in there so you know i'd really like to get it down in the 80 to 85s you know that would be like the perfect day for me you know does it does the struggle that you have is it mostly off the tee jerry or is it throughout the bag just the whole weight shift thing and getting to your left oh it's it's throughout the bag i can even manage to do it on a putter well you know there's there's a guy there's consistency for a guy right there you gotta love that there you go there you go not if when you fix jerry here just imagine when he's doing all that right with that weight shift how it's gonna you know creep out creep throughout the whole bag so what's we gotta get their sports did you put jerry did you did you play any other sports did you play any baseball did you yeah that's what well that's what's frustrating i've played you know everything i've been sports my whole life i've ran track i did i did uh uh basketball i did baseball i don't necessarily know that i was all good good at any of them but i did them all yeah exactly exactly that's what's so bad everything else you know how to shift your weight it's automatic and you get a golf club in your hand and you you completely your brain just locks up well that's a great point because jay will talk on this and he he relates it to pitching as well you're initiating the action you're in those other sports other than a pitcher in baseball but pretty much any of the other positions and it's kind of being initiated for you but when you're starting that action that's that's part of this piece and you can get kind of frozen in there so maybe he can kind of give you a little kick start well what else we need to ask jay you got any off the top of your head are you ready to solve no i can see the wheels turn and he always likes to solve and now he's got good information are you ready you got a couple more questions no i think i think i can we can we can go to solve there's a couple of things that um jerry how tall are you are you um you know when you hit a drive how far does your drive go what a second how tall is having to do with how far he is yeah what's that got to do with those little guys on tour that are hitting it's like rory m mcelroy i'm not talking to rory m i am talking to jerry i don't understand the damn question well just sit down and shut up a minute and the answer will be uh will be given to you well yeah i'm uh all right i'll ask your question i'm sorry remember the question i don't remember it either jim i'm six three and i uh i hit it a little over 200 yards on a good day okay so that's what i want to know because when when when you played baseball where'd you hit in the order where where did you bat do you bat in the top five or did you hit more towards the oh you were you were supposed to get the bat yeah this reminds me of what was that guy's what's that guy's what's that guy's name oh my what's that comedian's name i don't remember but i've never laughed so hard when you're right reagan yeah yeah they were taking the but they were taking the bubble gum out of my pocket i think brian said you know when he came to bat that the outfielders came in so far from their position that one of them took the gum out of his pocket right out of his pocket that's right that's right so you know i uh you know i don't remember i don't remember jay that's been that's been 40 years ago right that's a long time ago here's what i was getting to though um loading up so so part of the whole issue with what you have is is going to be the way that you load up your backside it's the the body moves in in interesting ways and if you don't load up properly on the backside you're not going to be able to get through properly on the front side meaning your your left side and why i asked you about baseball if you were at all a power hitter in baseball there you would know what it feels like to load up that that backside the lower body in a baseball swing and the golf swing is so so similar and so jerry the way i'm going to try to help you here is that we got to get your weight shift back first and what that looks like is your right knee stays stable it doesn't move laterally and your right butt cheek kind of goes almost back behind you to load up it doesn't go you don't have any sort of sway or lateral motion okay so that's what it's going to look like at the top of your swing your hips are going to be rotated a little um towards the right part of the ball my man pearly is laughing so hard jerry i don't know if um you can hear that or not but it's a tiny bit distracting for me anyway i don't even know if this is going to work now but it is my show do you do radio jesus all right so um but as you load up so that just it's getting weight shifted into your right hip and then as you go through that the the um the um your hips are going to turn man almost as quickly as you can and you're going to put weight on your left foot and your right foot my partner is leaving the studio he's leaving the studio he's off his chair oh man sorry to uh give you that image he's not helping me with this with this all but what i'm what i'm trying to get to is that you're going to address the ball with weight 50 50 on your right foot and left foot as you make your turn back you're going to get probably 90 of weight on your right knee in your right hip as you turn and you load up okay and then the first thing you got to do jerry with the with your hands and everything still up behind your right ear in the top of your backswing is you start turning so you start shifting your weight from your right foot to your left so you're going to change those weight numbers and go from 90 on your right to um the to 10 on your left at the top of your swing you got to change those and you're going to go 90 on your left and 10 on your right and your hips are going to come through turning as quickly as you possibly can jerry if you can youtube rory mcelroy with his driver swing it is the perfect model today he is the ideal guy to watch and watch how his hips move the problem is like you like perley said he's five foot seven or five foot eight you're six foot three dustin johnson would be another one to watch because you might be able to relate a little more to him because he's a little taller and a little uh more uh lanky but jay when when when you're missing some shots and then the guy tells you to really load it up get everything really back there be real aggressive if you will and complete that backswing that's just hard to do because the confidence is low and you're thinking you go all the way back there you might miss the dang golf ball right you what you need to do is you try this on the driving range but what there has to be a mindset that comes with this because this was going to be the last thing that i add to this jerry is you've got to almost give up and this is hard for us you got to give up control you feel like oh man this thing might go flying you know in places like i don't even know where and you're going to have to go so what oh that's what my golf coach that i've used tells me you got to give up control to get control and that don't compute for me yeah you kind of a control guy in life a little bit jerry maybe it may be a little bit well jade ir as well certainly relate to that that you got the right who do you get lessons from is anybody we would know uh mike moncel is when i can when i can catch him he's he's absolutely great and a lot of fun and lots of great stories jerry he'll talk to you a lot i know mike ben so i've had a lesson from him he's fantastic he'll talk to you a lot about the biomechanics of the pitching and batting and the golf swing and yeah and honestly everything you've just told me is stuff that him and i have been going over and we're working on it and and it's getting better it's getting better but i got a year i spent i think years doing it wrong you know you gotta start listening you got j telling you that you got mike moncel telling you that it's time to start just doing it yeah it sounds so easy doesn't it yeah when you don't have a club in your hand michael mike moncel is all about linkage remember he's all about lincoln and it's all about the biomechanics and he's good he's real good he's real good jerry this is how we end the show really appreciate you calling in if the information you got on whack and chase helps you then tell everybody where you got it jay and john helped you if it doesn't help you tell them we never met okay i'll do it guys thanks jerry thanks so much good talking to you have a great day thanks the whacking chase is really getting fun we really enjoy the calls please keep the calls and emails coming in and that's going to wrap up the show that's um going to do it for this version of golf with jay delsing pearly thanks for being with me love it jay thank you me thanks for keeping us together whatever the heck you're doing keep doing it because we enjoy it and hit them straight st louis that was golf with jay delsing brought to you by whitmore country club tune in next sunday for more from jay john and the other pros and experts from the golf world in the meantime you can find all of jay's shows at 101 espn.com as well as at jay delsing golf.com peloton let's go this holiday with the right music and the right motivation from world-class instructors we're going to pick it up a notch it's the holiday season you might just surprise yourself with what you're capable of work out to thousands of live and 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