Golf With Jay Delsing - - Scott Sloyer

Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing. On The Range is brought to you by Pro-Am Golf. Hey and good morning, St. Louis.

This is golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host, Jay Pearly. Good morning. Good morning.

Are you kidding me? Let's go, baby. Let's go pull the top off this thing. Let's roll.

Oh my gosh. It's how you doing over there? I'm ready to go. I've been secluded in a corner, in a dark corner. They let me out. I'm ready to roll here, man.

It's beautiful outside. Let's talk about golf. We might need to check and see if Pearly's got rabies or something. Oh, God. I'm following every dang rule they got. I'm ready to go, man. I got my bandana here but we're six feet apart so I can pull it off.

Right. I took a mask into Trader Joe's. It looked like I was going to rob the place. Yeah, I got a line there, too. Behind the blue line and crept my way in there. Well, we formatted the show like a round of golf.

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Okay, so lots going on, man. Golf's going to be the first sport back. I have watched so many replays of golf tournaments, whatever I can. They were kind of fun for like a little bit, but yeah, done. Yeah, the golf is on the way back.

As you know, I'm from Illinois. Our illustrious governor decided that we shouldn't play golf. All I want to know is what his handicap was. So my understanding is he's got a handicap but it's got nothing to do with golf. Yeah, he doesn't look like he's won a club very often.

I saw him the other day. Yeah, so the tour released a revamped schedule and it is going to start at Colonial down in Texas. So a lot of interesting things, bro. First four events for sure. No spectators.

Yeah, that drives me crazy. So as a player, I definitely fed off of that energy. I felt it. You know, I embarrass myself a lot, you know, in front of people.

You're like, damn, I wish I could have done that with nobody watching. Were we going to talk about those on the show? We don't have enough time. But what I wanted to ask you about, will this take, if there's such a thing as a marginal tour player or a guy that they like to call guys more like me, like a journeyman or something like that. Will this make a difference with no people out there in terms of them being able to feel like a little more comfortable?

You know, we're talking about such small incremental things that can turn a guy's career around. Do you think? Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

How would you look at it? I carried for you through a couple of tour schools, a couple of things like that to where it was big time golf, big time pressure, but there wasn't anybody out there watching. Right. You played PGA West. You played big time sports or tournaments. And when you went through tour school, heck, especially towards the end, when you're going through it, half the guys or more had won golf tournaments before. It's not like they weren't great players out there.

How would you compare it to that? Cause there was no spectators. Right. So for me, I feel like I've played better with the spectators. What I'm asking you though, cause you know, the majority of the personalities on tour are not extroverted. They're more introverted.

I think it's easier for them. Could it? Oh, it certainly could be.

It's not the roar of the crowds and not the intimidation factor, which obviously happens a boatload out there when you're trying to play and you're a little bit nervous and everybody's staring at you and stuff. Yeah. I think that's interesting.

Yeah. I didn't think about that. Then it's kind of that, well, that next level of edge of pressure, cause you can go very much under the radar. You're playing well, you know, the cameras are still on you, but you can kind of disappear. And especially, I know you're going to talk about this, but how they're even going to cover the events.

It's going to be very interesting, but that thought came to mind today. And I thought I wanted, I wanted to share that to see if this is going to take just, you know, how great all the players are on tour. You get on the PGA tour and you're a great player. That's all there is to it.

But you know, you're splitting hairs to try to get, you know, to that next level and that next level of great player. So I, I actually thought of that. Here's what I don't know if we're going to talk about this or not, but I have a problem with let some spectators in, put your mask on.

It's got to stay six feet out in the sun, doing all the kinds of things nobody's asking you to ask. Gosh dang it. Let some people out there, let 10,000 out instead of a hundred thousand. Well, I mean, it's interesting because of any sport, this could be the one to do it, you know?

Okay. The hospitality, the hospitality is not going to work, you know, with, with the closed seating. But unless you wanted to seat everybody, you know, skip a seat or two. But forget that part.

Make it like an old time tournament. You walk out there back in the day, there wasn't hospitality tents and bleachers and stuff. More or less you, you walked out there, you walked around in the park, you sat down and had a sandwich under the tree.

You enjoyed yourself. Just stay six feet away and move it. But anyway, that's not in our notes, but I couldn't stand not saying that.

No, no, that's fine. That's fine because, well, I mean, that's one of the things, that's the big appeal with us because we are not in a stadium. We are on a three, three, you know, anywhere between 250 and four, 500 acres sometimes, you know, so the social distancing can work. Yeah, it's real interesting. Just kind of jumped the gun because we're just, I can feel your energy too.

I'm just excited that we have a lot of stuff we want to cover. I have an interview with a guy named Scott Sawyer, who is from Lawrence, Kansas, who picked up and left and took his son, you know, me to Kansas. You'd see him, he just stood back in his chair, which is interesting in itself. Yeah, exactly.

How do you do that? Anyway, he picked up, he and his 26-year-old son, with all this COVID stuff going on, left there and flew right into New York City. Wow. And it's a really neat interview. It's not a whole hell of a lot of golf related, although he is a member at Prairie Dunes, which is one of my favorite golf courses out in Hutchinson, Kansas.

It had a golf thread. Yeah, absolutely. So we've got that coming up too. So here's, get back to the tour.

Think about this for a minute, Pearl. So there are sources of revenue for these tournaments that come in. If you just take, for example, the PGA Championship was here back in 2018, Tiger basically reclaimed the tour. All this cool stuff happened. The number of people that were at the event was off the charts. But the PGA of America basically has a tight rein on that and so released no numbers. But I've been to, oh, I don't know, a dozen or so.

And I know that place was rocking, oh man, over the top. So, okay, so no spectators. So you have no, for the most part, no revenue whatsoever from the licensing product. Yeah, no gate at all. Nothing from your hospitality suites. Nothing from your corporate sponsorship.

And no pro-ams. I mean, these guys, so Pearl, when I was thinking about the winners and the losers here on this whole thing, I think, is how important is golf? We love it. I think it can be so symbolic. Is it as important as what the front liners are doing in saving lives?

No, not even close. But it's important for us to try to plug back into something. Absolutely. To help us feel like some of our life is more. It's entertainment. It's important. If it wasn't important, people wouldn't watch it. They wouldn't throw their money at it.

Wouldn't be on TV every week. It's important. If that's one thing we've learned on this one, I keep hearing essential. I appreciate some people, you know, the life and death stuff. But what we're learning is everybody's essential. Everybody's doing a part to keep this thing going. And we've shut down three quarters of it.

It doesn't work. A hundred percent. I mean, it's essential.

And if the guy is a, if the dad is a janitor and he's supporting his family, that's essential to his family. Exactly right. I never did like the way they kind of coined that phrase. I hated it.

I still hate it. The other thing is that it's cool. I think golf has an unbelievable opportunity to capture folks that they have not, you know, get some eyeballs on the game that may not have, well, they don't have anything else to watch. Well, I think that's part of it. I think that just the fact that it wasn't even sports like anybody played. It was the NFL draft.

Gave people something to look forward to. Talk about that kind of stuff. Get golf out there.

Get some sports out there. I don't think, to your point, I think it'll capture more people. But right now, go throw a Frisbee and put it on TV and people are going to watch it. We want to see some sports. That escape, if you will, is important.

And especially with all the stress and pressure we've all been feeling, we need it. And if golf can help lead the way, and if it happens to be led in Texas, which is kind of appropriate because they're kind of going and making it happen too, that's a pretty sweet combination. Yeah. It's a big win for golf, I think, in that sense. On the flip side of that, man, the charities are going to get dinged big time.

Big, big time. They just won't be there for them. Right. And then you also, Pearl, there's host organizations that run these events. You know, they work their asses off. All year.

All year long for one week. And when you start saying, holy smokes, man, you're not going to be allowed to have people in there, then all of a sudden, do you need a vendor? Nope. What about the food you ordered?

No. The trickle-down effect with- All the little businesses that support that. You bet all the- Merchandising. Hotels and stuff that benefit from the area. No, it's a trickle-down nightmare.

I meant merchandise, but the merchandise and the merchandising of all that, those were all multiple millions of dollars that all trickled back to the charity. So it's a little bit of a ying and yang, but for the most part, it's going to be great to welcome them back. I mean, we still have six weeks before they come on, but- It's coming. It's coming. It's going to come. My prediction, it's going to start coming fast. I'm excited about it.

I hope so. Here's another thing that I talked to some folks at CBS about. So you mentioned this earlier about TV. So these are obviously going to be TV events, and we have a television contact with a tour, and it's a robust one. But for the most part, a major network will send somewhere between 225 and 350 people to a site to get that stuff executed. Now, you've been on this site as well as I have been.

Many times. People don't know what an incredible collaboration of a small town of an army of tractor trailer trucks to make this happen. Right. The term, it takes a village, is so appropriate here because you've got so many people coming together to try to make this show happen. So CBS is going to do this first event with somewhere between 75 and 90 people. Sounds like a lot, but it's not for what they do.

No, not well. And I just gave the other numbers from 250 to 350. That's about a third. What's really going to be interesting, because I experienced this when I was doing some work for PGA Tour Live, is they're going to be doing a lot of remote broadcasting, which is going to be interesting to see if we can see a difference in the broadcast. Oh, we will.

It's not easy to sit in a trailer and say, you know, oh, pick a spot, you know, Jacksonville, when there's events going on in Fort Worth, Texas, and to call it accurately. Well, it's going to be different. Again, you know what? We're learning too, right? It's going to be different. They're going to learn from it. There's going to be some things that are better, different, and some things that aren't better, different. So I think it won't only be different, but going forward, I will challenge that next season. They're going to say, hey, you know what? This worked better.

This was better. We're going to get some other changes. Yeah, there'll be some positive takeaways.

I think what I heard today from them is that Jim Nance will be the only, other than the guys on the ground, will be the only broadcaster on site. I like him. So he can go talk all day long. Yeah, absolutely. He's like a comfortable chair.

Well, man, we've got a bunch of other stuff to talk about, but let's take a break here. So that's going to wrap up the On The Range segment, but come back, Perle and I will be here for the front nine. Let's call for Jay Delsing. through October 4th at beautiful Norwood Hills Country Club. Legends like Ernie Els, Fred Couples, Jim Furyk, Steve Stricker, and many more will be in St. Louis. For tickets and sponsorship information, head to AscensionCharityClassic.com.

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Welcome back. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. This is the front nine. Perle and I are here, and we've got to thank Whitmore Country Club for, again, sponsoring the show in our second year. Great friends, great supporters of the game. They've kept their golf course open. That's awesome.

90 holes of golf out at Whitmore. You've got to go in and say hello to our friend Bummer. I've been texting with him. We're going to try to get a rematch because he thoroughly whipped my butt. Well, that's what I'm waiting. I want to know the date on that. Something to look forward to.

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It's just a great place to go. You need to call Bill Brungart, and he is at 636-926-9622. Yeah, Whitmore. You played Whitmore not long ago. Yeah, two weeks ago? Yeah, did you lose any balls?

What are you talking about old stuff? You said you were smashing some drives, though. I smashed the driver that day. The greens were a little tough for me.

The approach was pretty tough on some people. But your lesson was on driver. He never asked you for a lesson on playing. I didn't. Yeah, not yet.

I'm good. That could have something to do with it. He might be listening to another show together. I got an idea on the rematch with Bummer. I think it needs to be at Norwood, because that's where the Ascension tournament's going to be anyway. So it's a home and home.

And then the rubber match, hopefully there is a rubber match because you win in Norwood, is... I don't know. Neutral side?

No, it can't be neutral, because you either got to promote Ascension or you got to go back to Whitmore. Because they've been so good. They're a sponsor, so you got to go back there.

They've been so good. But the rubber match needs to go back there, but I think it would be awesome to have the next match at Norwood. I think that would really be a cool thing. Promote Ascension, get some other things going there. Yeah, that would be fun. Well, this is the front nine. It's brought to you by the Ascension Charity Classic, which is such a great way to walk into this.

I just can't wait for that event. Okay, so we're going to go to this interview I have with Scott Sloyer. He is from the Midwest. He's from Lawrence, Kansas. He and his son Tyler left the Midwest, oh, five weeks-ish or so ago and went to help out in any way they can.

So enjoy this interview with Scott. I've worked in sports and entertainment for 25 or 30 years. And for the last 10 years in ticketing, we're kind of a smaller version of Ticketmaster.

And obviously there's nothing going on in the ticketing world right now. And a friend of mine has a staffing company in Kansas City. And she called and said, hey, they called me. They need 10 people tomorrow, literally tomorrow, to go to New York City. Do you want to go? And I go, what would we be doing? And she said, you may be mopping the floors, you may be driving a shuttle van.

It's just whatever they need you to do. I go, okay. I go, can my son come? She goes, absolutely, I need 10 spots and two of them are yours. So he said, okay. She said, they're going to be 12-hour working days, no days off.

We sign up for eight weeks. And I said, okay, we're in. I then had to, after we hung up the phone, I had to explain it to my wife and Tyler's mother that we were going to do that.

And she was nothing too happy. But anyway, so when I hung up the phone, I looked at my son and I said, you know, it's been a long time since I've done 12-hour days, especially with no days off for eight straight weeks. We get up here and my shift now starts at 4.30 in the morning and I get back to my hotel room about 8.30 at night.

So 16-hour days, this is day 20 that I'm on. And I looked at my son the other day and I said, man, those 12-hour days are looking a lot better all the time. But anyway, we got up here and my son is 26 and lives in Lawrence and grew up in Eureka.

We lived in St. Louis for 20 years and went to KU and he stayed and then we ended up moving to Lawrence a couple of years ago. But anyway, he's real good with numbers and so they immediately put him in the dispatching and tracking and assigning department. And so he spends a lot of time on the laptop and run it up and down to the bus. Our headquarters of our hotel is in the bottom of the Park Central Hotel. So we have the entire hotel.

We have about 850 nurses in our hotel. And so we're downstairs in the ballroom. So we have to run upstairs a lot when it's time for shift change to do the buses, make sure who's on the bus and who didn't make it, who's late. And they assigned me when I got here to kind of be the garter of the gate and information guy so that people couldn't get down into the ballroom.

I was to try to answer as many questions as I could. And if I couldn't, then I pointed to the right direction. OK, that's where payroll is. That's where transportation is. That's where I-9s are.

That's, you know, all kinds of different things. So when I started my first day, you know, I had my little area and my area is the mezzanine looking down into the ballroom. And so I've got this long hallway of mezzanine and I thought, you know, I'm just going to get a table. And because a lot of the nurses were asking, do you have a microwave? They wanted to heat up their dinner from last night or a cup of soup or whatever. So and we didn't have anything. So I just went out and bought myself. I went and bought a microwave and a coffee pot and all the coffee in the cups and all that good stuff. And so when they came down, the next shift changed.

It obviously disappeared in about 30 seconds with that many people. And a nurse overheard me say that, where did this come from? I said, well, I just bought it. She goes, we shouldn't have to do that out of your own pocket. I said, it's not a big deal.

I'm more than willing to support you guys. And she said, well, that's not right. I'll be right back. So she goes upstairs to her hotel room, comes back down in about 30 minutes. And she put something on Facebook and she raised thirty three hundred dollars in 30 minutes.

And so it was unbelievable. So she went to Costco. And and next thing you knew, we had five long eight by ten tables and it's got fruit cups and power bars and, you know, just chips. And you name it.

And so they named it Scott's Cantina. And and now we have three microwaves and we have six coffee pots and we have a water dispensing machine. And, you know, at all times, one hundred and forty four bottles of water that they can grab and go.

And and so it's really, you know, I tell people all the time I threw down a seed and a tree grew. I mean, but it's all really due to them because now it's that initial thirty three hundred stock those tables with snacks. But now what happens is you get eight hundred people up here for that long. All their friends and family at home and the nurses from their home hospitals. Everybody feels helpless.

Right. They want to do something. So they send them boxes of goodies. Well, nurses now are coming down and going, I can't you know, they just sent me forty eight pop charts.

I can't eat. I want to donate. So the table just kind of keeps refilling itself over and over and over. And we've never had to buy another item again after day one.

So it's really kind of a cool story on how a new nurse will come in because it's constantly restocking nurses. We'll come in and say, hey, you're out of poptarts. I go, we're not out of poptarts. I put out what you all bring. Right. If you want poptarts, have somebody from home send, you know, poptarts.

So but it's been interesting. You know, you would never have guessed what the most popular items. Right. Obviously coffee and water. But then the number one item is a cup of soup and, you know, the cup of, you know, the one serve of mac and cheese. Because there's no all the cafeterias in the hospitals are closed, so they have no food there. And so being able to throw one of those in their bag and when they get a break, if they get a break, they're able to pop one of those cup of soups or mac and cheese in the micro.

You know, throw some water in and make a hot meal. So we constantly get cases of those. And in fact, with some of the money originally, I literally went on Amazon and ordered, you know, 400 cup of soups. And I didn't laugh long, but at least then people knew what to order from home.

But anyway, so the second. So that's kind of I also handle all the mail, the packages. We kind of set up a mail room where they receive packages and that quickly became overwhelming because, again, you get 800 people. And, you know, people are sending them boxes. And and, you know, I'll have we'll have to put out a note about every three days an email saying, please come pick up your packages because it's become so large and overwhelming that we're running out of space. And one will come down and say, well, I wasn't expecting anything from my mom.

I'm like, I know, but people at home want to surprise you. So you need to come down and check every day for your packages. So that's the that's the fun part of my job is getting to give them packages when they get one or give them snacks. The downside of the job that is, you know, draining and hard is. When they get off, you know, the boss after a 12 hour shift, they they want to talk to somebody, right? They say they just want to tell their story or they want to get it off their chest or, you know, what they've seen that night. And so the three guys that work under me, you know, because we work 24.

I mean, with the canteen is open 24 seven. We listen to a lot of stories and it's hard. I mean, you know, we're talking about nurses that may be from Eureka, Missouri, or Lawrence, Kansas, that had a normal day for them.

Maybe seeing a guy that fell off his bike and broke his ankle or, you know, those types of things. And now they're going to their shifts every day and zipping up 10 body bags. So, you know, it's it's it's hard. Scott, set the scene a little bit about the city itself. And it's just got to look like a ghost town, almost like from a set of a movie or something. I bet it's unbelievable, Jay, because I come up here a lot for my job, but also just for it's just one of my favorite cities.

And, you know, where you would normally say, OK, you know, we're we're by Central Park. And if you want to go down to the 9-11 Memorial to see it, you need to allow 25 minutes in a cab. Well, now it's two minutes. Well, and there's no cats really around. They kind of shut down. But Uber and Lyft are still running. And now you can get down there and, you know, three or four minutes because there's literally, literally no traffic.

I mean, there's no that the city is just empty, except for one thing. You know, I'm used to having to be careful when I walked off, you know, step off a curb. I'm getting hit by a cab. Now you have to be careful when you step off a curb because of the amount of Grubhub bike riders, the guys delivering food. I mean, they're just everywhere and they drive fast and they don't care.

And so there's lots of bikes out. Again, most all of its food delivery guys. But the city, you know, the subway, the everything's just empty.

You know, it's just it's it's really, really, really unusual. Now, a lot of the bodegas are still open because, again, they're considered grocery stores. The McDonald's are open, the Chick-fil-A, the Wendy's, some of the Italian restaurants are doing delivery only. Some, you know, they're trying to keep their doors open.

But yeah, it's eerie how empty the city is. OK, that's going to wrap up the front nine and the first half of this interview. Don't go anywhere. Perley and I will be back for the back nine and we'll do the conclusion of the Scott's Lawyer interview. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. The 100,000 block blowtorch for St. Louis sports driven by Auto Center's Nissan, home of the 30-day return.

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I'm your host and I've got Pearly with me and we are going right to the conclusion of the Scott's Lawyer interview. Are the nurses that are coming from various parts of this country, did they all get signed up sort of the same way you did where they put out this need and people started filling it? Yeah, there's a company called, and it's out of Kansas City and that's how this all came about, it's called Crucial Staffing and that's crucial with a K, believe it or not, Crucial Staffing. And they've been a company that's done this before when there's been a flood or a tornado or a hurricane. They're emergency management nursing people, right? They bring them in. But that's a huge difference of what we're doing.

This is, you know, they made their share of learning mistakes at the beginning of this one because there's no playbook for this. There's never been a situation, you know, they maybe send 20 nurses to a, you know, a hurricane site that are going to be there three or four days and they're nursing people that, you know, that are going to get healthy, right? I mean, they're fixing broken bones or this or that. And of course, there's some that die in a hurricane situation, but they're normally done in a week. This is the situation where, you know, these people are, they sign 21 day contracts and again, they work 21 straight days of 12 hour shifts. And then if they want to extend to do another 21, then they have a mandatory two days off.

They must take at least two and they can take up to six days off just to kind of recharge their batteries and physically, you know, emotionally get reset again. But yeah, they're from all over the country. But, you know, even the ones that have worked for Crucial before have never seen anything like this. Again, you know, I got interviewed by a TV station in Wichita, Kansas the other day.

And when the interview was over, I asked him, so how? And this was maybe a week ago. I said, so how is it down in Wichita? I said, I grew up in Hutchinson, so I'm familiar with Wichita.

How did how's the death rate there? And he said, well, we, you know, we lost two so far and I didn't mean to chuckle or giggle. He said, he said, why did you make that sound? I said, well, you lost two total. I said, we lost one every two minutes yesterday in New York City.

And he said, what? Yeah, we lost one person every two minutes yesterday in New York City died. And so it's it's really a, you know, sobering, you know, situation that we're in.

But there's lots of heartwarming stories, too. Scott, how what is the morale like? I can't imagine. I totally understand why you were saying these nurses and nurse practitioners get off of their shift and they need to try to reconnect and share and kind of unload. I can't imagine what the vibe is in that hotel. Yeah, it's and you have some that go right through their rooms and, you know, order their food. A lot of them order their food on the bus coming back, knowing it's going to take 30 minutes.

And so the food is there waiting for them. They get back and they just, you know, I've got half the ones in the hotel I've never even met because they just go straight to the room to to kind of wrap their arms around. And then there's the you know, there's the couple of hundred that need human interaction. You know, I need somebody to listen to me. And we brought in we have like five professional out of California grief counselors that are here also. That if I can't I can I've gotten pretty good in the last three weeks of being able to tell when this is more than somebody that just needs somebody to listen to them.

Right. I mean, and that's what I'm there for. But I can tell when somebody's kind of hit the wall or getting ready to melt down and need the professional.

I'm not a professional. I'm just trying to be a good listener. But when it gets past, you know, gets over my head, then I go find one of the grief counselors. And, you know, we've set up a devotional room where they can be quiet.

And, you know, they can go get their thoughts with them or pray or whatever they want to do in a devotional room. But and we probably lose 10 nurses a day that just tap out. They're just like, I can't take anymore. You know, it's just and we try to you know, we always try to tell them, hey, go, you know, go to sleep. Go sleep on this. Go, you know, see how you feel when you get up. Take a day. You know, they always have the opportunity to take what we call a mental day off. They don't have to work the 21 straight days. I mean, there's nobody making them do anything if they don't feel comfortable. So we try to you know, we try to keep them if we can. But some of them, you know, again, about 10 a day just is time to go home. And that's OK. I mean, this isn't this isn't for everybody. And if you have 4000 nurses, you know, we have six hotels in New York City with 4000 nurses.

I just happen to be at the park central. But, you know, percentages are going to say that, you know, there's one or two percent. They're just, you know, and I feel the part that makes me feel the worst when they do tap out is that how apologetic they are. And I'm like, you have nothing to apologize for. You know, you gave it your best shot. And well, it's a contribution. They've made a contribution.

It's not, you know, everybody's constitution is a little bit different, you know, and some some can handle more than others. But Scott, are is there are you continually replenishing the supply and talk a little bit about what the last week or so is like? Have you been able to see a difference? And as you know, we start we watch the numbers fall. Yeah, you know, interesting. It's interesting you ask that we stopped we were back loading with nurses and we stopped bringing anybody else in because it is starting to slow down. So there'll be some natural attrition. I mean, I've got 80 percent of our nurses signed up for another 21 days. But that 20 percent, we don't need to backfill now because the numbers are so, you know, they had a tent set up at Coney Island outside the hospital for overflow. Well, they they closed that tent down because the numbers are just, you know, are flat. You know, the death rate is still the same. It's not growing. That's a good thing. But it's flat. But we're still losing, you know, five, six, seven, eight hundred people a day, you know, dying a day.

But you're right. The numbers are we're not we're not backfilling anymore with nurses because we do feel like now we're afraid, though, that we're going to have to stay or the nurses will stay because most of the workers in New York City, whether it's Uber drivers or the restaurant workers or, you know, the help in the hotel, whatever, a large amount of them live in New Jersey. So they're picking up the bug over here and then going home. So New Jersey is starting to become a hot spot also.

I mean, there's as it's flattening out in New York City, all of a sudden, New Jersey started to get to be a hot zone also. Scott, are you and Tyler? I know your son Tyler's there with you. Are you and Tyler feeling like you're protected? Do you have enough masks?

Do you have enough? We do. I mean, they provided us with everything we need.

Having said that, with what I do, I mean, like I said, Tyler's kind of down in headquarters, he doesn't interact nearly as much as I do. At some point, who knows, one weekend, 10 days in, whatever it is, we just both looked at each other and said, we're going to get this. You can't be in a hotel with 800 nurses that have just worked around COVID all day long. And no matter how often you know, we're good about wearing our masks, we're good about washing our hands, not touching our ears. No matter what you do, we just we're just under the assumption that we're probably going to get it. And it just is what it is. You hope that you're healthy enough.

And, you know, actually, the number one, I can say, I can't remember who it was. I mean, she got it two days in. I mean, there's just nothing you can do. People at the percentage just say that what is it? Two percent of the people are going to get it.

And so, Tyler, not just it's easier. Just assume you're going to get it. It's just a matter of time.

You know, we hope we don't. And I have no desire to be sick. But you can't sit around and fret about it. We're too busy.

Right. There's just too much stuff to do. But yes, we're very careful and we've been provided with great equipment to stay healthy. But, you know, I don't to be honest with you that I was very nervous flying up one. I wasn't just bringing myself. I'm you know, my son who's 26 or he makes those decisions, but I'm still a dad.

I didn't want you know, I was nervous about what I was introducing my son to. But we work so hard for so many hours that you just don't have time to worry about. You just do the right things.

You follow the right protocol. But there's some things. You know, we started this. We started it with, OK, no more than two people in an elevator. Right.

Try to do your social distancing. But again, you have 800 people. Four hundred people need to go at shift change within 30 minutes. You know, and they're all sitting on the bus six inches away from each other. Right.

So at some point you just go, we just didn't do the best we can. Well, man, I, I, I have one. Thank you. And your son and all those nurses.

This whole effort is just monumental. And I've got two daughters living in the city, you know, and I think about them every day. And I talk to them and they're staying safe and they're staying home. And, you know, we are a golf show and I know you're a member out of Prairie Dunes, which is one of the great golf courses in the entire country.

I'm sure that that is so far away from your reality in your mind right now. But the weather is starting to turn back here in the Midwest. You know, as a member, I get the, you know, the little email newsletter type update, you know, every three or four days. And Tyler and I are, you know, we miss it. We golf almost every day together in Lawrence and, you know, try to get in nine holes at least. And, yeah, we can't we can't wait to swing a golf club again. Unfortunately, the bad thing is that even when we finally do get to come home and it'll probably be, you know, in June or whatever. So the weather would be perfect when we come home. We didn't have to quarantine ourselves for 14 more days.

So, you know, whenever you when you come from New York City, no matter where you go, when you go, when you've been in New York City, you have to quarantine 14 days. So I'm afraid it's going to be a while. We may go in the back here. You know, we may go in the backyard, do a lot of chipping, but it's going to be a while before we get to be on a golf course. But, yeah, I grew up in Hutchinson and I love Prairie Dunes. It's one of my you know, as you know, I'm sure you played such a great track and we miss all of our friends that are playing right now. And, you know, I saw that I played the member guests every year, which is one of the great member guests. I mean, Bill Murray plays that and all kinds of people that are that are members, out of state members that people don't even realize.

I just saw the other day that they're going to have to cancel it. So, yeah, we we cannot wait to play some golf again and can't wait to play with you and Barney next time we come to St. Louis. So anyway, yeah. Yes. Golf is on our mind.

It's whenever we're not thinking about something else. Well, folks, this is Scott's lawyer. He and his son, Tyler, have left Kansas, gone to New York City, and it looks like you're almost it's almost like a deployment. You're going to be there, you think, until the middle of June. We so appreciate you sharing the story. And keep safe. We are giving you a massive group hug.

This Midwestern spirit that you have is welcomed in New York City, no doubt. Well, Jay, I appreciate you having me on. I mean, I'm lucky to get to watch these these nurses every day.

They're warriors. All right. That's going to wrap up the back nine. Pearly and I'll be back with the 19th hole. We're going to talk about that interview and talk a little bit about how cool this this whole adventure for Scott is. And I know this is a golf show, but we're going to tie it in.

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It wasn't so golf-related. But this was just compelling. I felt like in the time that what we're dealing with as a society, we're all sheltering in place and half out of our minds. The first thing I thought about was there's a guy that found a way to contribute.

Because it's been hard to watch and our requested contribution generally is shelter in place. That doesn't feel good to me. So, I mean, I've been doing some other things, but nothing like this guy did. I think that's awesome and it kind of proves if you want to really jump in and help, there are ways to do it. And he found a way and good for him. Well, I said to him, I said, how's your wife feeling about this?

She's like, that's not so great. You're taking yourself and our son. And he said, you know, my son makes his own decisions.

He's 26 years old. So Scott had kind of a life-altering event several years back where he got very ill and nearly died. And he decided that, you know what, I don't want to be involved in anything that doesn't matter to me. And you and I have been talking about this thing about mattering. A friend of mine and I have this book on tape we've been listening to and it's how important it is to do stuff that matters and to feel like you matter. I work, as you know, with different companies, corporations, and the big thing is always mission, vision, values. I've tacked, ironically, on that about a year ago to start out with what matters. And you can still align those other things, but it's all based on what matters. And of all the good things that are going to come of this crazy time, I think that concept is foremost in what can come of all this. Is everybody individually and as a group determine what matters and stay focused on that for a while. Yeah, I'll tell you some of the things. There's a lot of minutiae we all deal with. It doesn't matter.

That's where I was going to. I feel like we get so caught up in the debris of all of the things that are kind of shot at us and they're hitting us and we're bouncing around. You see what this guy is doing. You see how New York City is responding at seven o'clock each night to these to the shift changes with the nurses and the doctors and in some of the things that teachers are doing for their students. I saw this one young lady, I think it was a third grade little girl was struggling with her math so she bought a whiteboard, went over to the girl's house, sat on her porch.

The little girl was sitting inside of her door and she was giving her a math lesson. Those are the sort of things that you're catching us at our best. That is one of the things. Yeah, I thought he had a lot of great stories, Jay. When he talked about the nurses, it's hard to get because I live in a little town, we're not seeing anything like this. Even in St. Louis, there's not that type of stuff going on. There's plenty of challenges but not that kind of stuff. So it's a little hard to even relate to but there is a whole bunch of really good stories.

Yeah, I mean when you think of a hotel, an 800 room hotel that's got nothing but nurses in it and handling two 12 hour shift changes, it's pretty neat. So I just wanted that story in there. Okay, so let's go to something a little lighter. That I'm in.

Sign me up. So a couple weeks back, I came across this survey. I don't know why I feel like it's so fascinating but to hear what my fellow tour players think and say sometimes just kills me. It is an interesting group of people out there.

It has always killed me. I can't think of 100 to 200 times when we would get in a car after a round of golf or something and someone we played with and laugh and shake our heads and go, can you believe what he said? We want to joke a lot of time on how crazy the caddies are. I guess if you really lined it up, especially after the Ted episodes you've done and I'm going to forget all the different caddies' names right now but all the different episodes.

Mark Long. These are really solid guys. So I think at the end of the day, it might be the players that are more crazy.

Oh man, I would never try to throw the caddies under our bus like that. Yeah, we're pretty much nuts. Okay, so tour players were polled and said, which major is the most important major for them to win? And this is so overwhelmingly lopsided, I was almost a little shocked.

Masters. What percentage? Out of 100 percent? I'm going to say 80.

77 percent. I only said that because you said lopsided. I wouldn't have guessed that before. Right. Of course they had some real important stuff like who has the best looking wife or girlfriend on tour.

And? They came up with Badz.com. Her name is Rochelle Badley. Badz.com. Aaron Badley. He's such a character. He was one of the first guys that did all that personal promotion and things like that. I remember when he first came on the scene.

He had Badz.com on his bag. Is he a good guy? Did you ever get to meet him? Yeah, I've played with him before. He's an Aussie, so I figured he's a good guy. When we first met him though, he was like 19 years old.

Oh, absolutely. I think he won the Australian Masters at 18 as an amateur. It's like the Aussies always came over here at 16, 17.

When I was 18 years old, when I was playing Canadian tour, there was a whole bunch of Aussies. And they were just young as heck. And boy, did they get in trouble every time we went into it.

Every time one of them was getting thrown, or more, getting thrown in jail. Oh, yeah. Not hurting anybody. Just doing crazy. Well, it's kind of hurting themselves a little bit.

Trying to do that a little bit. Exactly. How many of the tour players said that they missed Johnny Miller? I'm afraid it's going to be low. I missed Johnny, but I'm going to say 20%. 33% actually missed Johnny Miller. 67% said that.

You told it like it is. How many of the tour players missed Gary McCord and Peter Costas? Oh, I can't put those guys both in the same sentence, but you did. So I'm going to say 60%. That's right down the middle.

50-50. Yeah, that's because one's Peter and one's Gary. If Brandel Chamblee was taken off the air right now, would anybody miss him? I would. You're not a tour player? Unfortunately, I'm not a tour player.

Maybe it's why I'm not a tour player. Probably none of them. 61% said they don't. Only 39% said they'd miss him.

And that's because there were a couple comments two years ago. I would have said I wouldn't care what happens to him, but they said he feels like he's gotten way better and he backs his opinion up with a lot of good facts. I think he's always done that.

I just think he gets abrasive and he's not afraid to say what he thinks. Their thin-skinned Johnny Miller would also say it like it is. I liken it to when Bill Walton does basketball games, same thing, the guy misses it, he says the guy choked. The other guy said, oh, I think his hand got tipped or maybe he was fouled.

And he says, no, no, you choked. I thank goodness for Brandel, especially because Johnny's gone. I agree.

No, you don't. I hated Johnny. Okay, there we go. Not as a human being. I like him as a human being.

I golfed with him and I just thought it was too... Man, the game is too hard. And he's forgotten. He's just forgotten. He was pretty good, too.

Really good. He won. I think it was the last tournament he won on a regular tour.

Don't bring this up. I should have won that tournament. It was Pebble Beach when he had the yips.

But it was eyes closed. And he still won at 50-something years old. Pebble Beach with the yips. Think about that. I needed one birdie coming down the last six holes to get either a lead or a tie for the lead. Wow.

And I want to finish in like fourth. Gosh. I'm over it, though.

No, you're not, obviously. No. Which player on tour would make the best commissioner? This is... The current player?

Yeah. They're going to say... Oh, I'm so bad with the names. Who's going to be... Who is it? Stuart Sink is who they came up with. But this is funny because as this survey winds down, the lack of caring is so crazy because they're like, 12% said Stuart Sink. 6% said Jim Fioreca. And the rest said, we don't know.

We don't care. That's a better answer. Here's a good one. Which shot would make you the more nervous? A Ryder Cup opening shot. You being the first shot in the Ryder Cup. I've watched that and those guys are so nervous in that shot. A six-foot putt for Bogey to win a non-major championship.

Which one makes you more nervous? Oh, by a long shot. First tee of Ryder Cup. But I watched when Curtis Strange took on Nick Faldo. I watched Strange walk down to the first tee. I didn't know if he was going to be able to make the walk to the tee. The guy was so nervous. He was a captain's pick that year and really had a tough time. He was feeling the heat big time. He hit the ball great. Faldo couldn't find the club face and Faldo beat him. And that poor Strange was nervous as a cat for more than 18 holes. From the walk to the clubhouse to the first tee, because I'm not sure he thought he could make it.

And then the rest of the round. Here's a good one for you. What percentage of amateurs that you see in your pro amps are playing clearly inferior equipment?

Here's the choices you have. Most, some, not many didn't notice. Oh, you guys didn't notice for sure. And most of them are playing the wrong. I'm not sure about inferior, but they're wrong. Okay, so 24% said most are playing inferior equipment.

67% said they never noticed. Exactly. Well, I got that right.

I know you guys a little bit. Yeah, no, it's pretty good. Anyway, it's just kind of a... Those are awesome.

Yeah. What's more embarrassing for a tour player? To shank a shot or to four putt a green? Oh, a shank for sure.

Yep, a shank is way worse. It says... Four putts you can say I was going for. Now you don't know where the next one was going. That's one of the problems. Well, so that survey is pretty cool. You know, Jon, it's interesting.

I deliberately put in that little segment, the interview about the COVID. It's such a part of everything now that I really hope we can safely get past this and start getting somewhat back to normal. You know, we've got weather's turning. We're getting much better weather here. Next week, we're going to talk about spring golf and what a bear it is.

You know, we mentioned that from time to time. I'm glad it's more of a focus. It's important for a lot of reasons, and it is a bear.

It's so different. Well, what I wanted to help folks do is get off to a good start. Right.

That's why I mean it's important. We're sheltering in place right after a long ass winter. We're sheltering in place and having to go play thick rough. That's not right. I saw Meat put his clubs in the bag, and he had a weed whacker in there. He's making sure the battery was fully charged. So we've got to make sure he knows how to get out of the rough.

That's going to wrap up another show, another show in the books. Perley, thanks for joining me. Meat, thanks for letting us make fun of you, and thanks for keeping us on track here. This is Golf with Jay Delsing.

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