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Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now, he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing. On The Range is brought to you by Pro-Am Golf. Hey, good morning, St. Louis, and welcome to Golf with Jay Delsing.

Pearly is sitting right here. What's going on, dude? Nothing. Ready to get going on this, and there's a subject matter that is frying both of us that we need to get going about. Yeah, we'll talk about that. So get your intro out of the way so we can get to this.

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And Perle doesn't even know what Instagram is. So here we go. Got a really sweet interview with Peter Jacobson. Peter is one of the most talented people I've ever met in my life. Won the U.S. Open, Senior U.S. Open here at Bell Reef in 2009, I think. And got a great interview with him.

But let's just go right into what I want to talk about. One of the things that is a differentiator for me about the PGA Tour is our abilities to play with folks the day before the championship starts. So we have the program formats each week and guys get to play with Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson, Jack Nichols, all the years. And it absolutely differentiates our sport because you can't go play tennis with Djokovic and you can't go play, shoot, you know, play a game of horse with Michael Jordan. It just doesn't happen.

But you can go out and walk 18 holes with Tiger Woods. That is damn sweet. Two weeks ago or so, a ruling came out. And I'm going to say this first. Our commissioner, in my opinion, has been a tremendous leader so far. I hate what he's agreed to here. And that's what we're going to talk about. He has been flexible. He has been leading the charge.

He has set up protocols and then adjusted them accordingly. And we are we are doing business for the most part. But at Memorial, I come to find out that there was supposed to be our first week with spectators and they were only going to go somewhere between five and 10,000 spectators a day, which over 500 acres, there should be no skyboxes, Pearl, no hospitality, no nothing. All the thoughts of masks and six foot. Exactly. Exactly.

All this program. And I kind of I come to find out that the players put a kibosh on it, the players, because they said they were afraid. And that pisses me off.

I'm not saying I totally understand if they're afraid. Don't play and they don't have to play. But our commissioner would have done to me a much better service to all of us, all of our tours, all of our fans, all of our events by saying, this is how we're doing business. We're doing it smart. We're doing it safely. But this is how we're going to do it.

And he didn't do that. No, that was a big disappointment. I was looking forward to the fans being out there.

I'm so pumped like you. They've made so many good moves. They're on TV. They're one of the first sports on TV.

I think them and NASCAR about the same time, all good things. I'm just kind of lost across the board on this whole coronavirus when there's situations going on. If you choose not to participate, you don't want to be a spectator. You don't want to be a player.

Just say you don't want to be a spectator or a player. Why do you need to shut it down for everybody else? Let me ask you this. Well, then why pay the full purse? That's that's much of the crux of the matter, isn't it? So, so do the I mean, so if you told the players, oh, OK, so here's the economic impact on this event because of what we cannot do with hospitality and programs. And so instead of playing for nine and a half million or whatever the average is you're playing for each week, we'll just play for nine hundred thousand this week. Oh, they won't mind that one. But no, won't even bother him.

Will it really takes me off? And I will tell you, folks, for probably 15 to 18 years of my career, I was on the player advisory councils. I went to every one of those meetings. I loved it. I love the business side of the game, of the tour, learning about the sponsor involvements, learning about all this stuff. And I just absolutely loved it. And so many players get on tour, play well, hang out for a while.

And all they want to do is cancel the programs because they've hated the programs forever. And I look at them and just go, you sit over there and keep playing well. And then once you start to understand that the dude that you don't want to play with is the same dude paying six hundred bucks for a new driver and and making it so that you can fly your ass in a private jet each week. I just have no time for it. I can't.

It just you can tell just fires me up. And it I'm bummed. I'm bummed that the decision was made for the rest of the year. Now, one thing needs to be said. The U.S. Open and the Masters, the PGA Championship is in California. It's already been said no spectators there.

The U.S. Open and the Masters don't have pro amps, but they're also not PGA Tour co-sanctioned, which means those guys make their own rules. What do you think they're going to do? I don't know what the USDA is going to do.

And I've been terrible at guessing about the USDA. What I think the Masters is going to do is they're going to be so far out in front of this thing by November. They're going to have some sort of special specialized testing protocol for spectators in some sort of requirements. And they're going to have some. They're going to make it work. They're going to have spectators. Now, are they going to let 40,000 people in a day? Most likely not.

But if there's an event that would make it work. They'll figure it out. They're going to figure it out. They're going to spend what it takes to put this thing on in the way that they see fit.

And they also have to their benefit the most time. Yes, for sure. And how cool is the Masters in a turkey sandwich around? As much as we've missed in sports in general, golf as well, but we've gotten some golf. Now we're going to be deluged with great tournaments, majors at different times of year, different looks, different everything. It's really going to be a fun several months. And how cool is this, Pearl? The Masters in the middle of November and then turn around and do it right again in April. Yeah.

That's pretty cool. I'll tell you, they were talking about it a couple weeks ago. The hot players can make a career in the next six months. Well, you know, you had the Dublin, the double double, you know, which is JT wasn't too mad about that. Neither was Jason Day.

He had two top 10s in each event. So you know that that term horses for courses. Yeah, there it is. All right, that's gonna wrap up the on the range segment.

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Here's a dude. He's won seven times on the PGA Tour. He's won multiple majors on the champions tour. He owns a production company, PJP, Peter Jacobson productions. He's a broadcaster for NBC.

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He's just hysterical. So let's go to see what Peter Jacobson has to say. enormously popular player who has given so much to the tour. Great ambassador and this week Peter the Great. Peter Jacobson on golf with Jay Delcine is brought to you by golden T. I mean, I'd much rather be sitting right next to you at a bar somewhere but I don't think that's on the on the slate for anytime soon. So Jake, I sit here and you know prep for this interview and man what a phenomenal career you've had as a golfer.

23 professional wins seven on the regular tour, two champions tour victories, both majors one here in St. Louis at Bell Reeve in the 04 US Senior Open and two Ryder cups of tons and tons of money. But when I think of you, I think of you as one of the most talented, funny, genuinely funny people that I've ever met. And I can remember one, one time in Memphis and doing Dallas, I was playing with you and we got a rain delays, we got pulled in. And you started telling stories before I knew it.

I think I sat there for three or four hours listening to some of your impersonations. And it's just give us Do you remember those? Any of those stories? I think one of them had to do with the old Australian golfer Jack Newton?

Yeah, I do remember those days. And I think Jay, one of the fun things that we experienced on the PGA Tour is making a good situation out of a bad situation. And anytime you get into your round of golf, and this is specifically the time that we were playing in Dallas, you play four or five holes, then a big weather problem comes through, then we get called in. And sometimes we sit in the locker room all day. Sometimes we're in for an hour, then back out, then back in and back out, almost like a yo yo effect. So you really have to keep your mind straight. And you have to, you have to have some fun with it.

You can't, you can't get too serious about it. And one of the fun things about rain delays is we have a chance to sit around and tell stories and rain delays on the PGA Tour. There's no media allowed into the locker room. So it's basically players like you and me and all the other guys sitting around, drying our socks and shoes and rain jackets, but telling stories. And the one that one story you're talking about Jack Newton, great Australian player who eventually lost his arm in a very tragic airplane accident. But Jack Newton was a, was an amazing guy, funny guy and a great player. But we were playing at Memphis, the old colonial country club early on in my career.

It was either the late seventies or early eighties. And I was playing with Buddy Gardner and I remember this cause it was 105 degrees, no air flow. Humidity seemed to be at a hundred percent and Jack was not feeling good. He was suffering from heat stroke and we're walking up the seventh fairway, which is uphill dog Lake to the right par five and Jack kind of started wandering off and really not in great balance and fluff was getting in for me and we both walked over to Jack and said, Jack, are you okay? And he said, no, I don't feel good. And we made him lay down and we called paramedics over and he was suffering from heat stroke and they took him off the golf course, took him to the hospital and they had to ice him down and put him in an ice bath. And we were all really, really worried about him. I started laughing when I think about it because Buddy and I finished the day and we both, we knew Jack real well and we were concerned about him and we were wondering whether we should go see him at the hospital. We went to dinner that night and Buddy and I are sitting there and we're in, it was kind of a nightclub type place and we're having dinner and, and a couple of drinks and we look up and we see Jack Newton. He's out on the dance floor. He's out there just cutting a rug, you know, Hey mighty, how you doing?

They feel fun yet. And we were, we were, we laughed so hard. We thought, well, we're worried about this guy and he's up and out of the hospital and he's on the dance floor and he's having a couple of pops and he's fine. So I remember that so well.

Oh my gosh. Jake, I look at the, some of the other things that you've done off the golf course and you had two shows on the golf channel. One of them, I didn't get to see Peter and friends nearly as much as I saw plugged in with Matt Grieser and you guys had some of the funniest antics. Do you remember the one show that you guys put together for, I think it was the man bra. I don't remember that.

Oh my, you're right though. We did do a lot of stuff. We w the one I remember that was so much fun is we planted outside of a golf, a golf guys or a golf store, golf galaxy and like Dick's sporting goods. And we put up a, we put up a card table and I asked, I asked people to, when they were walking in, if they wanted a golf, they wanted a golf tip. And I put up a little sign. It said golf tips from a pro for $1 and people couldn't believe it.

It was in my hometown of Portland, Oregon. So people knew who I was and we also gave them tips out on the front, the front of the store. We had hidden cameras and Matt Grieser for anybody that doesn't know the name Matt Grieser. He's actually right now the voice of cheese in the cheese.

It adds he's a comedian actor and he was also sign boy and all those great foot joy ads. And what we did is he, we, I, we passed him off as my golf instructor. So I would start giving a tip and then I would go inside to get, to get a new glove or to get something. And Matt would basically tell the people out front that I was helping that I didn't know anything about golf. I was just talented. I could get the ball in the hole and that's why I was on the tour, but I had no knowledge of golf instruction.

And then I would come back out and I would say, are you working on what I said? And it was always hidden camera stuff. And to get the people's reactions was priceless. And we, we just had so much fun with, with just laughing at it.

People in golf and laughing at ourselves. We, we just had, we just had a blast with it. Jake, you did so much for the community in Portland. Um, I know you went to the university of Oregon and I know you're a huge, huge supporter of the ducks. You, um, you did the Fred Meyer challenge, which raised millions of dollars for charities up there. You also had just countless pro amps where you're spreading the joy of the game. You're spreading your humor.

You're, you're just doing things for the community. And I can remember we're all sitting around the 18th green doing this little exhibition for, I think the program, uh, before the Fred Meyer challenge, I believe. And I was sitting next to Huey Lewis and you got up on the stage, which is actually the 18th green beautiful Portland country club there. And all of a sudden we see this guy in a bike and like speedo type bike gear riding up the 18th fairway. And he stops and gets off his bike at the front edge and it's, it's a greaser.

And, um, just to see him in that bike gear, Oh my gosh, I thought Huey and I were going to die laughing. And then to contrast that Holly Saunders came out and started hitting a few shots. And man, the, the, the entertainment factor was just terrific. We always did a clinic before the Fred Mark challenge. We always set up a, uh, on the 18th green and it's, and I've never seen it done before, but we did it on the 18th green so we can utilize all the sky suites and the bleachers around the 18th green.

And we hit shots back down the fairway the opposite way, because we wanted to do a clinic. We wanted to highlight all of the great pros and personalities and celebrities that were there. And the one thing being Portland, Oregon, Portland, Oregon is a, is the bike capital of the world. They were really one of the first cities to put in these bike lanes and you go downtown Portland and you've got to have your head on a swivel because you've got bicycles coming left and right front and back.

You really have to pay attention. So when that came up to play in the pro am, we thought of a get a bit that we would start the, I would start the clinic and we would be maybe five minutes into it. I'd say call the sponsors, everybody for coming. And we got Matt a bike and he was going to ride up to the clinic in this, uh, way too small bike outfit. If you remember, I went down and bought him a size medium and he's more of an XL guy. And we stuffed him into these shorts and these bicycle pants and a bicycle shirt.

Think of Lance Armstrong after eating a 400, a Krispy Kreme donuts. And we had, it was an, and Matt is such a great, uh, he, he's huge into improv. He's been in a bunch of improv movies and I just said, what do we do? And he said, follow me, follow my lead. And the one thing I've learned about improvisational acting is you never deny. And whatever I would say to him, he would go with it.

Whatever he say to me, I would go with it. And it turned out to be so fun. And you were there and you watched it and literally we are crying so hard that your laugh, you're, you're, you're, you're laughing and crying and you really can't even get your breath. Let's talk about the modern game for a minute. I know you've done great work with NBC and, and years in the booth as well.

I, and I've had the honor to do a couple of last four us opens with Fox. I am blown away at the power that the game, uh, that the, that the kids, uh, today, uh, uh, play with. And our day was so different. Our equipment was so different, but man, I want to get your, uh, your take on the modern player versus kind of the, you know, when we were growing up, I think these two areas we're talking about, Jay are totally different and you really can't compare them when everybody says who's better, Jack or tiger.

Well, that's, that's a, it's like trying to compare a banana with a, with a, uh, a, a watermelon. You just can't do it. It's, it's just so different when you look at Jack and tiger, because back in the day of Jack, you had different equipment where there was no technology. Technology has changed the game. So dramatically that back when, when we were, when we started, when you and I started, uh, there was no launch monitor.

There was no track man. You really had to go figure it out and dig it out of the dirt as, as, as a lot of the old timers would say. Now fast forward to where we are today in the era of tiger and Phil, the equipment is better.

There's no question. The knowledge is better. The instructional aspects are better and getting the proper equipment fit for you is, is easier and quicker. You can go to a fitter and for spend one hour and the next thing you know, you're walking out with a perfectly fit set of golf clubs, like getting fit for a tuxedo for a wedding or a brand new pair of shoes.

So it's different that way. But the one thing about the players today that impresses me so much, and I think it all starts with tiger tiger was really the first guy to pay attention to fitness. He was the first guy to pay attention to nutrition and it's all filtered down to the kids today. The kids today to me have such great situational awareness.

They know where they are and who they are at all times. And I, I, again, I, I think the baton gets passed from Jack and Arnold and Gary player and before them Hogan and Nelson and Snead all the way down to tiger and Phil today, and then on down to Rory McElroy and Fowler and, and players like that. So it's, it's, uh, it's to me to watch how the game of golf in, in my time, when I joined the tour at 22 years old, back in 1976, to look at where we are now, I'm proud. I'm so proud of the players in the game and how they've really protected the integrity of the game and how the focus is still on the communities we play in and the money we raise for charity.

Yeah. You want to see tiger break Jack's record. In fact, I think that's really one of the great stories we're looking at right now is tiger won the masters last year. Can he get to 19 and beat Jack's 18 major record? Who's coming up behind tiger? Who's going to be able to challenge tiger's record tiger and Jack's record. So the baton gets passed so well in the game. And I think kids today really protect the integrity of the game.

Yeah, they really do. So Jake, a hypothetical question clearly, but had tiger not fell into the abyss for that almost 10 years, is there any question in your mind that he don't have very record, every meaningful beach to record? Yeah, I think he would, Jay. I think if tiger hadn't gotten hurt, that's the one thing when you look back in every sport, baseball, basketball, football, tennis, golf, it doesn't matter. One of the things that injury does is it really robs us of watching more records get set. And I think a tiger situation when he, he won his last, uh, he won the U S open, I think it was oh eight or oh nine, uh, in San Diego when he beat Rocco in that playoff on that, on that, I don't know, semi broken leg or torn meniscus, whatever you want to, I don't know all the medical terms for that. But, uh, then he went into that as you call it the abyss to where he was injured for such a long period of time and he was struggling against injury in his body.

And when you're struggling with injury, you really can't focus on working on your game and getting better and going further. You almost take a step backwards. So for him to win the tour championship and then the next year when the masters to win his 15th major, to me, that's one of the great stories in, in the history of sports, certainly in golf to watch where tiger was not only with, uh, what happened to him in his personal life, but also with his injury situation to then come back and win.

I give him all the credit in the world and I admire him for that, for that perseverance. Okay. That's going to wrap up the front nine, uh, come back. We have more Peter Jacobson on golf with Jay Delson, w X O S w X O S H D one East St. Louis, one Oh one ESPN for 67 years. Blue fuse has been the ride to take 15 brands at 11 locations. Blue fuse automotive. We are St. Louis workouts, more fun than this. Well, if they are, then I want to sign you to an endorsement deal with Michelob ultra. I'm looking for anyone and everyone who makes a difference.

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Peter Jacobson is brought to you by golden team. Like you said earlier in this conversation, we kind of learned how to play golf on tour. I mean, we're both good.

We didn't know how good we were and we just kept pushing forward. One of the things I noticed most of the best players I ever played with hit their short irons low and their long irons high. And you know what, Jake, I don't see a lot of that with the with the the the younger modern player. Do you?

No, I don't. And I think that goes back to taking you out of the dirt. Like we said earlier, I think back in the day when we were you and I were on the range and we're trying to find I think we probably hit more balls and we experimented a little bit more because we we didn't really have a set of clubs that was fit for us. I remember having mixed sets of clubs. You might have a different brand iron in your wedges than you do in your middle irons than you do in your long irons than you do from your woods. And the reason you did that was because you knew those worked for you. And then a long come equipment companies and they started signing endorsement deals to where if Jay Delsing has a deal with Cleveland or Strix on, you have to play every club in your bag.

And that's what they're paying for. So as a result, you really can't experiment as much as you you could back in the old day. But I think when we were just starting out, Jay, even though we're playing against each other, I'm trying to beat you. You're trying to beat me. I'm trying to beat all these other players. We still were kind of a team. We were all on the same team. I could come up to you and say, Jay, would you watch me hit a couple of balls or Scott McCarran or Brian Hennig or Corey Pavan?

And we we would all help each other, even though the next day we would try to beat each other. In fact, I remember one story, 1985. My my pal Curtis Strange, who, as you remember, won back to back U.S. opens. Curtis was playing so poorly that we played a lot of practice rounds together that I watched him hit balls and play for two days, Monday and Tuesday down at Eagle Trace in the Honda Classic, down in down in Fort Lauderdale. And then he played in the pro am and I watched him hit balls. Well, Curtis who gets into a playoff Sunday on after regulation play Curtis and me, he plays so well that he gets into a playoff and beats me in the second or third hole of a playoff to win the Honda Classic.

And my wife, Jan, so funny. She said, I know we love Curtis, but did you have to help him that much? How could you just help him a little less?

Yeah. So but but again, like I said, even though we're trying to beat each other, I want you at your best. So it forces me to be at my best. So if I beat you, I can say I played great. Jay played great.

And and there's really there's no there's no what ifs or could have beens. So we all we all do help each other. And when I came out on tour, Jay, I wasn't a very good player. I was pretty good.

I could get the ball around and get it in the hole. But I learned from so many players on tour, even though I don't shut up that often. Sometimes you got to just open your ears and shut your mouth.

And we all are forced to do that from time to time. Jake, I look back at and think about I know you were dear friends with the king Arnold Palmer. And I look back at some of the great players that I had the opportunity to play with.

And you got onto her just a little bit before I did. Is there any player? I mean, Jack Nicklaus, I didn't get to see play with jack in his prime, but I still got to play with him. And it was just an incredible. Is there any player or any specific round or any specific thing that you saw one of these great champions do that you just kind of scratched your head and said, Man, I can't believe I was privileged enough to witness that. The one guy that I got to play a lot with was Arnold Palmer. He and I started out. I signed with McCormick Mark McCormick IMG. And as a result, I was put into a lot of pro ams. If you remember back in the day, there really, there were a lot of Monday programs around the country for certain corporations.

And if they if you were lucky to be one of the 12 or 14 or 18 pros, we would all travel there together, hang out together and participate in these events together. And Arnold would always be the guy. He was the king. He was the number one guy.

And he always took the players under his wing and would say, Guys, this is what we're going to do. We're going to have breakfast this morning. I'm going to get up and speak. We're going to go play 18 holes of golf.

And then afterwards, we're going to do a clinic. And for all you young guys, just watch and learn and listen. And as a result, I get to watch Arnold in a lot of situations where he was he was the king, arguably the most important player, the most influential player in the game.

I think he'd be the first guy to tell you what the best that's jack and tiger. But I think Arnold meant more to the game from people not only inside the ropes, but outside the ropes to Arnold that that had that distinct ability to reach outside the ropes and drag people inside that not not not literally, but figuratively, to where they felt like they were a part of the Peter Jacobson Arnold Palmer J. Delsing threesome when we were out playing the first round of the Honda Classic or something. So those those were the things that Arnold could do. And I saw him do so many occasions where he just connected with people. And it went way beyond birdies and bogeys and eagles and winning tournaments. It just it just went to the humanity of the of Arnold and that I think that's humanity still exists on the tour today.

Yeah, there's no question. So Jake, is that kind of because when I look at some of the accomplishments that you've had off the golf course, they are substantial. And I know that you've got a business sense as well.

Was that kind of the found? Is that how that foundation grew with with AP or, you know, you've got Peter Jacobson sports, you've you've had a company in Portland for Oh my gosh, 25 or 30 years, and then so many other things. So I know that you're interested. Your interest goes beyond the golf played on the course. Well I always took advantage Jay of the opportunities when they were presented to me I remember back I was probably 25 just starting on tour and the skins game remember the skins game over Thanksgiving with Jack Arnold, Gary player and Lee Trevino and Watson those guys. There were four players playing for four skins and I got the opportunity Don O'Meara called me and said but you want to start doing some TV walking with the guys and interviewing the guys after they want to skin and I jumped at the chance. I've never done TV before but I did it because it's an opportunity. It's an opportunity to learn a new part of the game and I didn't know if I was going to be any good at it or not.

I just just did it. So there were just so many opportunities that there are opportunities that come our way that you're either you're either willing to take advantage of or you don't want to. And when I started playing well in the game I wanted to be able to do some things outside of the game of golf the competitive game of golf and to be able to manage tournaments and run tournaments and and raise money for charity. So I go back to what I said earlier about all these players all of us you me and so many players have the opportunity to raise money whether it's through the first team which is a great organization or a foundation that you may create on your own to take care of breast cancer crippled children cancer.

It doesn't matter within your community or within the United States. Golf is extremely powerful when it comes to raising to raising money for charity and getting people that love the game involved in your efforts. Yeah. Oh my gosh Jake it's it's it's just absolutely wonderful when I think about the the opportunities for me that the games provided and still provides. And you know Jake we just had a while back we had the match too with Tiger and Phil and Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and then a week prior to that we had the TaylorMade drive for relief. And in two weekends this game provided twenty four million dollars for you know for for COVID and for nurses and for front liners and Jake since the tour's inception in the middle 60s the PGA tours raised over three billion dollars. I mean man that is game changing money. That's why I've always said that there's no game like the game of golf.

You can't go out and play five on five with Michael Jordan or or LeBron James. It's it's hard to play a tackle football game with with Peyton Manning or Tom Brady but you can tee it up with Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson in a in a fun round of golf and raise hundreds of millions of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars for charity. And I was so glad to see the first one with with the four guys at Seminole and then the one with Tiger and Phil Brady and Peyton Manning. I watched every minute of both because first of all I'm a golf fan first and foremost and second of all I thought it was an awesome opportunity for golf to put its best foot forward to be the first sport to be able to get involved in in relief of all the suffering that we've seen through the coronavirus shutdown. And I thought it was awesome. I didn't hear any negatives from those two events and it's again it just it just goes to show you the power of the game of golf.

It absolutely does. Jake I want to kind of wrap this this up if you don't mind I want to tell the folks a story about you and I playing together at Castle Pines at the International. I don't know if anyone's had the opportunity to play this Jack Nicklaus design but it is a really hard golf course to play and an even impossible golf course to walk. And you happen to have your son Mick head in for you. And I got to tell you I watched this after the first couple holes and I watched you Mick was he knew the game but didn't know that you know to carry on the PGA Tour. It's a substantial endeavor.

There's lots going on lots of people lots of etiquette and things like that going on. So I think you'd hit it in a bunker or two at the first couple holes and you are showing him it's such a kind way. Hey Mick you got to rake the bunkers like this you know because the players behind you are coming in and what have you. So this golf course has massive amounts of bunkers everywhere strong strewn left and right of every fairway front back of every green and you were having one of those days where it just seemed like you know every other hole or so you hit it and it's a sand trap. And Nicholas Jack has got these bunker faces you know stacked up against huge mounds and it's really a feat to get in and out of there and smooth the sand with a rake you know. So your son Mick was doing the best he can and the golf course is hard to walk and anyway we're going to the ninth hole and it's just a bare of a hole there's water that you have to hit your tee shot over there's water on the right there's OB on the left and then the second shot we had all found the fairway and the green sits gosh I don't know what Jake to to club at least two full clubs above you straight uphill. And I remember you you hitting this shot and the flagstick was in the back right portion of green a huge face of this bunker covered the whole short side of the green and you're saying oh get up just a little bit get up and it's just ball is starting to land. I hear your son Mick go anywhere but the bunker and I just I almost couldn't even hit because the poor guy was like I have raked more sand than anybody and you know Saudi Arabia at this point man I can't get in the sand anymore and we had such a chuckle but what it took what it took what I took away from that story Jake was you out with your son on the PGA Tour man how cool is that well it's so fun when you're when your kids come of age forever and my son was a he's a big tall kid like you and he played he played basketball but he played a little golf but I took him with me to Denver just to be able to play and you know that we are responsible for anything our caddy does especially a bad rate job in a bunker you can't get fined for it well you actually can get fined if your caddy does a poor job in the bunker so we went over everything before the week and then I was in the bunker at one and then the bunker at two and the bunker at four and the bunker at five and he's trying to hurry to keep up because we're moving along at a pretty good rate and I remember stopping on five going Nick that bunker raked that that wasn't very good and he goes oh okay and he redid it and I kept saying you really have to pay attention to this and he's like dad if you could keep it out of the bunkers I wouldn't have to rake the bunkers and I remember you were so you were laughing I came over to you like 11 or 12 I said what are you laughing about and you said you're your kid he's trying to make the rake those bunkers so perfectly but you've been in seven bunkers in 11 holes keep it out of the sand taking half of those bunkers you need a crane to lower yourself in because the elevation changes from the faces to you know you can only walk in and walk out in one area it was just terrific Peter thank you so much for the time thank you so much for the memories man I you were one of those people that were was so kind to me when I got on tour and I a friend and your wife Jan is a terrific lady we had inducted into St. Louis Hall of Fame together which I I'm not sure you ever thought you'd ever get into St. Louis Hall of Fame but that's pretty damn cool well with you too Jay you've been a great friend of mine and you always bring a smile and fund everything you do and I'm so happy to spend this time with you on your show thank you for having me Jake one last thing tell us about Jake's takes I know you've got another endeavor that you're taking on the podcasting world well I started about a year ago I started a podcast called Jake's takes and you can get it on all podcast formats and it's fun because I it's about 30 30 minutes a day probably very much like your show to where we just talk to different people in and around the game of golf and I've had everybody from tournament directors to musicians I've had a couple weeks ago I had Bruce Hornsby from Bruce Hornsby in the range fame and we just talk about different aspects of why people love the game of golf and also some current events so if you have any interest in it check it out Jake's takes and that's gonna wrap up the back nine so don't go away we've got the ultra 19th hole and John and I are gonna break down the Peter Jacobson interview come back we had more golf with Jay Delsing for the last 48 years Pro-Am golf has been providing outstanding customer service to the greater st. 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house call Bob and Kathy Donahue call them at 314-805-2132 okay so the Peter Jacobson interview unbelievable unbelievably talented guy I have been with him in locker rooms where he's telling stories doing accents and all of this it's some really funny off-color stuff I have been with him in Portland in Portland Country Club when he is entertaining a large group out there where John Daly instead of standing on the and teeing a driver up and hitting it away from the green he was standing on back down the fairway John turned around and hit it over the spectators over the clubhouse in that some neighborhood somewhere and I said John that's why you don't play with your name on your ball he's like oh yeah no way no way I've also been with him when he's up on stage singing at the Hard Rock in in Vegas and standing next to Huey Lewis who was like I don't know what the right words to say but Huey I said Huey Jake's really enjoying this and he's like oh yeah oh yeah he is and one of his songs was talking about shanking it and he's like I shanked it and he didn't and Huey looks at me and he goes and in this like real you know Huey's voice is pretty silky pretty smooth pretty common and he kind of tossed it up there to kind of throw Peter like a little little knife and say I shanked it and it was oh god it was just fun just just really funny the I mentioned this in the interview where his son Mick caddying for him at Castle Pines was one of the funniest things ever and this guy was raking bunkers Peter hit it in a bunker in every hole and you know his son won raking the bag of bunkers for beans how do you think the guys yeah the other players I can attest to don't like that if you you know you think your caddy just raked the bunker no you're on the tour you're not just raking the bunker if that thing isn't perfect now we're talking about not a gray I mean perfect in other words if they hit a shot and it rolls in the bunker and it isn't sitting real pretty and you raked it before yeah or they find out who you are you're in serious trouble to put you down and gut yeah they so that doesn't go well so how about this we're on like the fifth green and Andrew McGee you know Andrew he's a character he's in the fairway and we're on the green and Peter had hit it in this front bunker big steep face and you know his son Mick is doing the best he can but it looks like someone you know a herd of elephants just rolled through there and from back on that fairway Andrew's like rake that bunker better you know so it's just so funny the thing that stands out to me about Peter is the talents that he had he ran the Fred Meyer challenge for 20 years in Portland raised all this money for the local Portland scene and put on this great golf event where PGA Tour players would go up there you know Fred couples would pair with Marco Mira and they'd have this team event and he had AP Arnold Palmer played up there for 20 years can you imagine that little community because he was throwing a great party and a great time and the guys were paid nicely and everything was it was cool you know top shelf yeah that's gonna wrap up another show another great interview what a fun guy to have on the radio yeah he's a lot of fun so Pearl thanks for being with me meet thank you so much for taking care of us we're not sure how you do it keep doing it and we'll see you next week this is golf with Jay Delsing hit him straight St. Louis that was golf with Jay Delsing brought to you by Whitmore Country Club tune in next Sunday for more from Jay John and the other pros and experts from the golf world in the meantime you can find all of Jay's shows at 101 ESPN.com as well as at JayDelsingGolf.com