Golf With Jay Delsing - - Adam Long

Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing. On The Range is brought to you by Pro-Am Golf. Hey, good morning.

St. Louis. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host, Jay Perley. Good morning.

What's going on over there? Good morning. Good morning. Ready to roll. You got that look on your face.

You ready? Yeah. I'm just looking at this microphone that you rigged up last time. I was just hoping the pin still stayed in place.

Sorry. And when we're talking about a pin, we're talking about a bic. Yeah, exactly.

A pin pin. Yeah, that's right. Well, we formatted the show like a round of golf.

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So we do not hand out that handle. I'm dumping on you. I'm rolling my eyes at you.

Okay, cool. Got an interview with St. Louisan, PGA Tour winner. New dad, Adam Long. A lot of news. A lot of good stuff going on.

Nothing like playing with some confidence. You're seeing his name pop up an awful lot. Yeah. So that was fun little sit down that we had with Adam and okay, so I've got some questions. I'm going to ask you and I listen listening audience.

See if you guys can hopefully meet and I'm not too good. This is trivia stuff coming up. I can tell this is not my thing. Not like old trivia. This is like obscure bizarre golf facts.

Obscure trivia, trivia, and me two different things. But go. Here we go.

I'll make something up. You know, I'm not sure if you saw the Scottish Open. I'm sure you did.

I watched some of it. Absolutely. And a guy named Aaron Ray beat Tommy Fleetwood in the playoff. Aaron Ray.

I promise you Aaron Ray had equipment in his bag that no other touring pro has ever won a tournament with. Shoot. I'm not going to be able to answer that.

Think of some of the, boy I might piss a few of our listeners off if they have these, but think of some of the seven wood. No, I would. Nope.

I'll just tell you, you know, I'm not going to get it. Yes. Really? So he had iron covers.

Oh my gosh. Have you ever seen a pro with iron covers? No, never have. Not, not a pro golfer. I've seen like pro football players come out with iron covers to play golf, but no iron covers. I would like to know whoever even came up with that.

That seems like the worst idea ever. That's what I was just going to say to you. Who is the guy that wants to take credit for creating the iron cover? Well, if he's sold eight or 10 or 12 million of them, he'll take credit because he's living in some mansion someplace.

That's right. He could say, brilliant. You guys go ahead and laugh it up, funny boys.

I'm over here clipping coupons, fishing and playing golf all afternoon. So yeah, here's another. Did he play with him on?

He was like pulling him. So yeah, if you would have done that, I would have, no, no, no, no, no. Here we go. I know what you're going to say. This is perfect. This is good. Yeah.

You've got a bus, a bus signal or a bus sound going over a bump because here it comes. So my putter had cover. My putter was a Scotty Cameron putter. This is a hundred percent true. My putter and it's a Scotty Cameron makes very valuable putters, which we didn't know that it was valuable at the time, but they're, they're expensive.

Anyway, on them for the first time ever were these kind of crafty, a golfy head covers would, would have like a little Velcro thing that was really shot, usually terrible. I admit, I'm not even saying this is your fault. This is just what would happen though. But you're insinuating, we'll let the listeners. It's insinuating the same thing. Anyway, every time pro, not all 18, how many times do I drop it? Yeah. Half the time.

Okay. But we walk off the green. I give Perley my putter. He put the head cover on, put the putter in the bag and walk. And within how far the putter, it's such a long day anyway, when you have the backtrack half the time, it really makes for a long day. So I thought Perley go first, plus he's an extremely fast walker and especially if I was playing well, he was like a scout dog.

He's like, he's like beating the bushes and he's up there and I'd be picking up the head cover. Finally, didn't we have a rule that we can't, I can't have one. He, he, he instigated a rule that said no more putter covers. Nope. Put it in the bag after the first hole, we're done.

Put it in the bag unless he lost the bag, which happened a couple of times at night. No, not really. One time almost.

Okay. I got another fun fact to know and tell hopefully. Did you know that Bryson DeChambeau in between rounds changes the heads of his driver. Now meet, we've got wrenches that you can adjust them right with that same wrench. You just get in there, unloosen one screw and the entire head will slide right off.

He travels with multiple heads with varying degrees of loft on them and changes them from day to day. Now you're saying, okay, now I was going to ask you, is it because of that or because of, I know this might sound a little bit silly, but how hard can you hit it before you're messing up the face of the driver? No, that's, that's a deal. You were with, were you with me when my face and my Callaway driver caved in? That definitely happens from a rock though. That's a different thing. I should have been hitting my driver. I think I hit it with Chris, didn't I? Yeah. Wow. That beautiful, that beautiful sponsors of Walmart, the T marker went flying in the woods and then, Oh, how did that happen to my driver? Wow.

You guys, you guys feel better now? The truth comes out. I didn't know those John Deere tractor markers flew. Those things do not hit them.

They're like a lot of deer stuff, real solid in the ground, baby. Absolutely. Well, okay.

I'm glad you guys feel better. Got that stuff off your chest. Is it because he knows he wants different lofts or because he's crushed the face or not crushed it, but had a, maybe it's slightly threw it off or something. Yeah. He's got them all, um, noted and numbered and labeled and they all have different fields to him.

He uses the same shaft and travels with these things. And then after the round pops in a different, if you need to, you're saying, yeah, so, so between Saturday and wing foot and Sunday, can you imagine doing that? No, no. If I said that to you, Pearl, I'm going to say, I can't find the red. I'll say I can't find the red. You'd say it. Can't find wing foot, lost the bag.

New York. That would never happen. I have never made an adjustment on any of those drivers. If I start there, I am mentally so upside down. It's a problem. I'm with you.

I'm a little afraid to do that. Oh gosh. So it's a club. No.

Today you're hitting a hook. Don't change the club. Right. That's scary.

Well, so here's what I wanted to ask you. Take a stab at how much loft he uses from the lowest loft to the highest loft on these driver heads that he chooses from and cut whatever you are going to guess in half. I'm going to say, cause I know they're going, they're wanting to hit the ball higher and stuff like that. So I'm thinking if you're saying cut it down. So I don't know about it in half, but then he's at, I don't know, nine or 10 or something like that. I mean, not that he's going 20, you say cut in half, but I don't think you really mean that literally. No, right.

The lowest lofted driver head has 5.25. I didn't even think you could get him like that. Oh yeah.

Peter, when we first got on tour, Peter had one, but he didn't get it from the manufacturer. He just kind of bent it down over his knee. Yeah.

Just like you do in college and bend it, which of course was illegal. But you can get them like that. And I have been told by some of the manufacturers that some of the loft on the effective loft on the driver and the numbers on the bottoms don't go inside. Yeah. And the highest lofted driver that he uses is 5.75 degrees.

Most of the guys are using anywhere between seven and 10. That's what I thought. So how's he hitting it so high? Just swinging that, that much up it. It is Pearl. It is. Well, do you remember the, the, the interview we did with Azir when he talked about the average launch angle change from when we played to now his at least five degrees in Pearl.

It's absolutely true. Well, our whole, my whole gig was, it was like stingers at best. Just keep it full of stingers. You got a whole bag full of stingers. Yeah. Pearl, that's going to do it for the, on the range segment.

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Welcome back. It's Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host Jay Perlis with me and Brad Barnes is here at the ESPN Studios pushing buttons and making it happen.

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Okay, now wait a second. So I see Meet's got a sniper hat on. I know he's got a case of sniper golf balls.

And now you're telling me he's playing over there all the time. So far I've got like a sleeve of balls. What am I doing wrong? Did you lose the entire cases of balls that I've given you? Don't change the subject. You did not give me a case of balls. I got a sleeve of balls.

And Meet's getting all this other stuff. I got this hat from somebody else. Yeah, good try. Wait a minute. What's the website? What's the sniper website?

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And nobody walking over there. Alright guys, we got to run to this Adam Long interview. What a, just a great guy, St. Louisan, played out of Whitmore. And let's just get right into this interview. This is Adam Long from the PGA Tour. For the win.

It is a long shot, winner in the desert. Adam Long is a winner on the PGA Tour. Adam Long is brought to you by Golden Tee. We got to start with this.

How does this sound? First of all, Adam Long, PGA Tour player. Adam Long, PGA Tour winner.

Adam Long currently 60th ranked player in the world golf rankings. Man, I could go on and on. Congratulations on such great success.

These last two and a half years, three years have just been fantastic. Thanks. Yeah.

Those things still sound pretty incredible. I definitely have to stop and pinch myself pretty often and appreciate where I'm at. It's a tough game. It's a brutal game, brutal sport, as we all know, and it beats you up way more than you beat it up.

But, you know, it's been a nice long journey for me. No pun intended. I didn't crush it right on the PGA Tour right away. I wasn't a superstar in college. Some of these phenoms now have Colin Morikawa or Matthew Wolf or Victor Hovland. Those guys are the names right now. But every couple of years, you have a few of them that just pop right up and just have immediate success. Those guys are doing great. I love watching them play, but my journey has been a lot different and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's just wonderful. Adam, you were born in New Orleans, but grew up here in St. Louis. In 2008, you won the Metropolitan Amateur Championship and you went to the Duke University, which is just a phenomenal place to go get a degree and had a good golf program. And then you turned pro in 2010 and you kind of kicked it around the mini-tours for a little bit.

Yeah. I grew up in St. Louis and grew up playing Whitmore Country Club and then Old Hickory and then Wing Haven for a bit and Lake Forest more recently. So we moved around a little bit in the suburbs there in St. Louis, St. Charles and went to Francis Howell and we had some good high school teams there and was playing national events growing up since I was probably 11 years old and just kept getting a little bit better and eventually ended up at Duke. We weren't the UCLA teams of your past, but we were some pretty good guys on our team and we had a good four years there. I turned pro, like you said, in 2010 and qualified for the U.S. Open in 2011 and that was kind of an eye-opener for me and taught me kind of two things. One, that the best players in the world aren't perfect and I was probably closer than I thought I was to those guys. It took me a few years, but I ended up playing the nationwideweb.com Corn Fairy Tour in 2012 and lost my card pretty easily. I didn't have a very good year out there, but I played the mini-tours, e-golf tour, Hooters tour, Latin America, Canada. I played them all, it seems like, for a few years and got back onto the Corn Fairy Tour in 2015 and then played another four years out there and finally able to get my card in 2018.

So, it took me a little bit longer than I wanted to, but it all worked out. You know, Adam, let's talk a little bit about that progression, though, because most people go, oh, Adam Long, this overnight success, you know, and we know that there is no such thing, really. It's an overnight success.

Like you said, the Wolves, the Marcalas, they may have more immediate impact and success on the PGA Tour. Man, this thing's a marathon. This is not a sprint, bud. And talk a little bit about the progression that you saw in your game. You just mentioned the U.S. Open and then getting out on the Corn Fairy, the nationwide, it's a phenomenal place to figure it out, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. I think all those tours taught me something.

I learned right away how to kind of travel on my own in college. Everything's kind of set up for you. This is your schedule. This is when we're leaving for the airport.

This is what we're going to wear every day. I mean, literally everything's pretty much laid out for you. You just have to go play. And then you turn pro and you've got to figure out your own schedule. You're in charge of your travel, where you stay, how you get from one tournament to another or a Monday qualifier, and how you kind of organize all that is all up to you.

Submitting an entry fee or signing up for events, all of it, it's all on you. And so you've got to figure it all out. Going out on your own, it teaches you that. It teaches you how to play four rounds of competitive golf. It teaches you the ups and downs and missing cuts.

In college, you don't miss cuts. And so it teaches you all of that and how to bounce back from the bad weeks and get better. And so I kind of learned a bit on my own. I had Brian Foat there in St. Louis by my side the whole way.

And I would work with him when I went through St. Louis. But it teaches you really got to kind of learn on the fly a bit. And yeah, the Corn Fairy Tour was great.

I played four or five years out there that were all really good. It taught me a lot. And they're set up the exact same way as the PGA Tour as far as committing to events and, you know, how they're run is all the same.

They're just different areas, different countries, or even, you know, traveling in South America, you're traveling around all over the place. But it's, it's a great learning experience. And it teaches you everything you need to know for the most part. But there is no substitute for the PGA Tour. They're great breeding grounds, but you get that under the gun on the PGA Tour, and you've got crowds that you've never seen before.

And you got these cameras all over you. It's, it is a bit different. But those are definitely good stepping stones to get there. Yeah, that's really well said. So Adam, this is so cool. So you you made one cut out of your first four events, I think. And then you turn around and win the Desert Classic in Palm Springs at PGA West, you made an unbelievable birdie on 18, which I have been where you hit your tee shot off to the right, but I did not follow my tee shot up with it nearly as good a second shot or putt as you did. And it was so fun to watch you kind of stick it in Philly mix here. Adam Hadwick was in the last group there to talk us through the last little bit of that back nine, but because I watched you hold that putt on 18. And I said to my buddy, john pearles, he does a show with me, this thing is going straight in the center of the hole. He goes, How do you know I go again, just tell you look so locked in the stage wasn't too big. And it looked like it just was your time. Yeah. I don't know, I whole last day was, it kind of went fast for me for sure. I mean, my first time in the final group, obviously, and you're playing with one of the best players in history.

And so Nicholson and Adam had one, you know, that started his own right. So it was, you know, a lot to accept they're going into the round, but I really just kept kept my cool and just wanted to have fun and enjoy it and laugh with my caddy and just enjoy the whole experience was really my goal. I didn't think I was going to win. I wasn't trying to win when I teed off on Sunday, I was trying to have fun. I was trying to hit keep playing great golf. I mean, I was like 19 under for the first three rounds. Like I clearly I was playing great golf, making a lot of birdies, just keep doing that stuff and keep giving myself giving myself chances and keep knocking putts in.

And that's basically what I did. I still made the turn. I was still back of had one by three, I believe.

And well, there's still a lot of work to do. I thought one of those two guys was probably going to win. They've won before. Phil's won 40 events or whatever. I mean, clearly, you know, I'm not going to win this thing, but I just wanted to keep having fun.

I needed a top 10 to even get into the next week at the farmers and Tory. So I was mostly playing for that, but honestly just trying to stay in the moment and enjoy it. And literally all of a sudden we're on 18 T and all three of us are tied.

And that's when it kind of changed. Like, all right, I've done it. Like I've succeeded. It's been a successful day. I've got my top 10.

I'm in the next week. I'm going to make a bunch of points, a bunch of money. Like let's, let's just see where this thing goes. And a little conservative off the T the water left to hit it right. And it ended up somehow on the downslope of this mogul out there and not exactly what I was looking for, but it was just one of those shots where I was just had to turn into an athlete and, and I couldn't think about, okay, ball below my feet. It's going to want me to hit it right, but it's easy to pulleys as well. And you know, this is, we're tied and these guys are, I'm hitting first. Those guys are going to be flagging it close to, I need to be aggressive.

It wasn't really any of that. It was like, all right, I'm playing great golf. I need to just be an athlete about this. And you've hit the shot like this a hundred times before.

It's nothing crazy. And I just went right at it and, you know, I was probably aiming what, 10 feet right at the flag or whatever, and pulled it right at it. So I was happy to see that it was going right at the flag and a pretty good distance as well. So, and all of a sudden I had a chance to win the golf tournament with about 13 feet, I think it was.

But same thing. I went through what I've been feeling since Thursday of, you know, my putting stroke feels good. I've been reading the greens great and just wanted to pretend it was a putt on Thursday rather than a Sunday to win a tournament. And I went, you know, it did go through my mind, like as soon as Phil and Hadwin had both missed their opportunities that, okay, this is to win the tournament, but I only let myself think that for a second. And then it went into like, okay, this is, this doesn't really matter. It's the same thing I've been thinking, just roll the putt and the darn thing went in.

You know, Adam, it's so important for us to relay these sort of messages to the average guy out there. You're talking about, you know, one of the most incredible shots that was hit all of 2019. Your, your second shot to 18, the conditions were extreme.

There's water all, you can't miss one inch left of the green at 18, or it's going to hit the rocks and go in the water. And you turned yourself into an athlete that said, stick and ball. Here's what I'm going to do. And then just go do it. Yeah, it's very much easier said than done.

And I, you know, I've tried to replicate that feeling several times since then and it doesn't happen. So it's not easy to do. And it's, I've tried to replicate that attitude I had that day and it's not easy to do. It's very easy. It's a lot easier said than done.

Right. And you can, you can tell yourself all you want, but you really have to believe it. And you really have to, to get into that, get out of kind of all those distractions of what can go wrong and, and really, really commit yourself to like what you want to do, not only for the day, how you want the day to go, but where you want to hit each shot. Like, think about what you want to happen is what I try to teach myself and others that, you know, the more you just think about what you want to happen, what, what, what would you like to happen here? Where would you want to hit it here? What do you want to do with this? What do you want to do with this chip rather than, Oh, I don't want to go left. I don't want to go right. Oh, this, if I miss, they're going to think, you know, I choked or whatever. Like you can't think that way and have success. It has to be all about what you want to happen and you just kind of make it happen.

It's a, it's tricky though. All right, well that's going to wrap up the first half of this interview and the front nine. Don't go anywhere. We're going to catch the rest of that interview on the back nine. And I also want to thank Bob and Kathy Donahue for supporting the show. If you need anything, any sort of refinishing done to your home, these guys bring in safe professionals that do a great job. You can reach the Donahues at three one four eight zero five two one three two.

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I mean, totally. Adam, you just had a solo finish down in Pudacana, which was a phenomenal event that you had. You led after three days.

I think you led by two going into Sunday. But what most people don't understand is that somebody on the PGA tour is shooting 63 every single day. And it was one of the hardest things for me at least was the four rounds, you know, for not good rounds, great rounds.

Yeah, that's exactly. You know, it's hard to, you know, some tournaments, you know, you got to shoot 20 under others need to shoot 10 under and it kind of varies, but it's usually in that, that range. And it's hard. And you know, somebody is like you said, they're going to shoot 63 every, you know, every day, but it's not the same person every day. They're not shooting 27 under every day, they're not shooting 30 under every tournament. And so it is nice when those days come and you shoot 63, but you know, that, that means the next day, instead of needing to shoot 63 again, maybe you need to shoot three or four under. So it doesn't have to be every single round one person, but somebody out there is going to shoot, you know, five, six, seven, eight under almost every single day.

It just, you know, maybe the guy leading does it, but you know, sometimes it's the guy in 20th that like Peter Malnati did yesterday all of a sudden had a chance to win with a, with a 63. So, um, you gotta keep your foot on the pedal. You gotta keep making birdies. I definitely learned that on the corn fairy tour, they have more tournaments that go really low than the PGA tour.

Um, and I think that tour really teaches players to keep the foot on the gas and it doesn't matter if you're five under through nine, which gets you a little uncomfortable cause you're, you know, that's really low or you're shooting 700 through 10 holes, like whoa and get a little out of your comfort zone. And it's like, okay, that's fine, but I need to keep going. I need to get this eight.

I need to get some nine. I need to keep making birdies because one, we don't know what tomorrow holds and two, somebody else out here is doing the exact same thing as you are. So you really got to keep it, keep the pedal down and, uh, and not kind of closed in. I think that's what it teaches you that you need to still try to birdie 16, 17, 18, even though you're already seven under, um, when it's easy to say, all right, well we had a great day. Let's just make sure we don't, you know, lose it. It's more of like, no, no, no, we're going to keep flying. We're playing great. Keep going.

Yeah, that's awesome stuff. I'm, I'm sure the listeners are going to love that Adam. And you know, when do we back this thing up and start thinking about how the hell am I going to do this? You know, because those thoughts that we just had can be extremely overwhelming, right? Oh my gosh, it's going to take me 23 under to win this week. And I haven't even started yet. Or you drive to the golf course, you have an afternoon tee time on Thursday and someone's already nine under. So you're already nine back.

But what we do is we break it down into the smallest elements. You got to knock in your four footers, you got to hit fairways, you got to hit your wedges, you got to play your game, don't you? Yeah, exactly. You got to just know that your round is going to start on number one tee box just like everybody else's.

And you're just going to get going and see what the day they come to see what happens. But you got to find a way to score. It doesn't matter if your warm up kind of sucks. And you're kind of like, man, I don't feel it today. I'm a little off of my putting stroke. I don't miss hitting a lot of these warm up putts and it doesn't really matter because you're about to tee off and you got to go put post a number. So I think that's one thing that professional golfers have that most amateurs don't is they don't expect to necessarily play perfectly every day. They don't expect to shoot 63 every single day.

Like no pro is going to say every single day I expect to shoot 63. No, it's not even about that. We're not even thinking about a final number on the first tee. It's we got to figure out what we got today. We got our stuff, whatever it is. Maybe we're spinning it a little bit. Maybe we're, you know, feeling a little weak today or maybe, you know, we can't hit a draw or everything's a little cut like whatever. It doesn't matter because you've got to figure out a way to score on the first hole when you get up there.

And and I think that's how we think. And it doesn't matter if it's it's number one, the super easy hole. If it's three wood wedge and I I missed the three wood into the rough and then I missed the green with the wedge and I'm like, wow, everybody else is birdie in this hole. Well, it doesn't really matter. I got to chip this ball in the hole.

It's not OK. Fine. I make my par. Not a big deal. Maybe I'm going to birdie one of the, you know, quote unquote hard holes out here.

It doesn't really matter. We just got to plug, keep plugging away, keep figuring out a way to hit the ball in the fairway. And if we don't, so what we go find it and try to get it up there on the green or next to it. And you just keep going. And it's just a it's a whole 18 holes is a long day and you never know something's going to start clicking and then you ride that wave. But the key is to just not really have the big expectations every day. And when the PGA Tour players are playing great, we're going to score great.

That's fine. It's fun. It's an easy day. But those days are pretty rare, even for the best in the world. It's still about how well you play or what you shoot when your days are just kind of OK. And I think that's what when I get back to Dustin Johnson or Rory or these top guys, that their bad days are still pretty good. And a lot of times we don't even know on TV how they played. We just know that they shot three or four under and they probably struggled, but they got it in the hole and then they play great the next day and issued seven eight under great. But their bad days are just so much better than than the average golfers that I think that's a big difference.

It really is. And you know, Adam, doing the TV for a few years, I had that fortunate opportunity. I watch these guys play poorly. It would have helped me so much when I was a young guy to watch the stars at the time have bad days because I was out there with my hands full trying to manage my game. I didn't get to see that.

But you said it early in the show. They play poorly as well. They just know how to manage that that poor game better than we did.

Totally. I play with the best players in the world every single week. You know, sometimes it's a star like Dustin Thomas or Rickie Fowler or Tony C now or Zander I played with earlier this summer and and Patrick Reed quite a bit like these guys. They hit some of the worst shots you'll ever see. You're like, oh, man, this is the best player in the world.

He literally just flubbed a chip or he literally just hit that thing in the next fairway or that was a wedge and he just totally missed the green, you know, not even close. And these guys, they're human. It's golf.

It's the hardest game in the world by far. And, you know, if you watch TV and I've been guilty of it, too, you think these guys are just robots and it's unbelievable. But TV likes to show the guys that are leading or the stars and the great shots. That's exciting. They don't really like to show somebody had a three wood into the rough. That's not that fun. Or, you know, trying to go for a green and two and this not even coming close. It's more fun to watch the guy hit three would like Sergio yesterday in the three with the green to three feet for eagle like that was incredible shot. But I played with Sergio on Thursday and Friday this week in Sanderson and not every shot. He was impressive.

Don't get me wrong. He was striping it. He's best ball striker I've ever seen probably but I mean, it wasn't like every shot was perfect. I saw him hit a three wood into the creek. I mean, it's, I saw him miss a short putt like it just happens. These guys aren't perfect, but they find a way to get in the hole and, and they know their games when it's off.

They know what to kind of fall back on and just kind of get through the day and maybe we'll go figure it out after the round. Adam, I can remember the first time I got to play with Greg Norman. He was the best driver the ball ever.

I had ever seen any top to drive on number nine at Memphis who went like 35 yards. I still laugh about it. I'm like, how did that happen? Exactly. Right. It's hard to believe and they don't do it that often. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying it's, it's, it's, it's kind of what I learned my first experience at the U S open where I had no business being there, but I played with some of the best players and some practice rounds and I'm like, man, these guys aren't like perfect. Like these guys are hitting seven irons and missing the greens and you know, it's just that it's not perfect. And, and I've learned that too. Like I'm not perfect by any means, but I'm not the most talented guy out there at all, but it, you know, I'm, I'm learning and I'm getting better at, at figuring out a way to get in the hole and, and getting comfortable out there is a big part too, but it's just being okay with the bad shots and understanding that you're not going to have the perfect round of golf nobody ever had. So until you shoot 18, you're, you're not going to be perfect. And I think that's a big part of, of professional golf too.

And it's hard to believe that sometimes when you're watching the leaderboard, but it's, it's true that these guys are, are definitely human. Adam, Adam, have you had a chance to play with Bryson DeShambo yet? Yeah, I've played with him actually in an unofficial event at the, at the Seminole pro member actually. So only 18 holes I've played with him. I've gotten to know him a little bit. We've got some mutual friends and my coach on tour is Josh Gregory and he coached Bryson in college at SMU.

And so we've got some connection there and gotten to know him a little bit, but, uh, haven't played with him a ton. What he did at wing foot is so amazing to me, Adam, because I didn't, I thought that golf course wouldn't be able to be taken down like he, like he did. And it was such an impressive thing to me.

Yeah. Extremely impressive. I mean, what he's done since this comeback and all this season has been really impressive. I think everybody, you know, he's definitely a different dude and all that. He's got his own little world that he's in and that's all fine. But I mean, what he's done on the golf course is extremely impressive. He's done it himself.

He doesn't cheating. Um, he's, he transformed his body in the middle of the season basically and took a big risk in doing so clearly, working his ass off to Adam, that has to be stated. Yes, exactly. I mean, he took a huge risk and came back and just dominated.

I mean, he, he found a new way to play the game for him and it it's proven it's worked and it's what he did at wing foot was extremely impressive. Um, you know, knowing that, you know, what we know now, but everybody was missing fairways. I think, what was it like 40% was about average or even just under, yeah, he hit 23 of the 56 for, for four days. Yeah, exactly. It's, everybody's missing the fairways and it's just going to be tough.

And he decided I'm just going to bomb it out there and figure it out. Now I'll say one thing that the greens were definitely a little more receptive than we thought they were going to be for one. And two, they were, I thought they were overall, the USGA was pretty generous on whole location. Um, we practiced to a lot tougher hole locations, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, then they ended up actually using, there were a lot that they ended up staying away from that they could have used to make it.

We'd still be out there trying to figure out how to score, trying to finish a round. So, um, I felt like they were a little tame to us, which, you know, both those combined probably helped him quite a bit, but at the same time, um, you know, he's a big, strong dude and he can get it out of the rough better than I can. So it's, uh, you know, it was definitely an advantage, but he, uh, he won the US open. There's no doubt about it.

Yeah. The performance was great. Well, Adam, I really appreciate the time in closing. Um, is there anything, any story, anything, I mean, other than the fact that you, you know, one, this desert classic that that's just, I still am smiling. So ear to ear that, that you were, we're able to accomplish that. Is there anything that you want to any story or anything that sticks out in your mind that was either kind of funny or it just kind of unusual that you're like, this can happen on the PGA tour. You know, people don't understand the stuff that happens in between the lines. You know, unfortunately a lot of those stories we can't really tell, but that weird things and kind of funny things do happen out there. Oh, every day. I think I feel like every single round there's something that we look at and say like, wow, that was incredible. Either good or bad or just crazy or weird or whatever. But it's a, there's always something which is probably the beauty of the game is that every day you never know what's going to happen out there. And especially in practice rounds when things are a little calmer and looser and you're playing with your buddies and you know, you may have a few dinners on the line or something. And but yeah, I mean there's all kinds of crazy stories and locker room talk and locker room stuff and all that. There's, there's definitely a lot of that and you know, certainly some not, not great for the public, but it definitely happens out there.

But I'm trying to think of something off the top of my head. I actually, I was in the physio room, I think it was Thursday after Thursday's round last week in Sanderson, Mississippi, and da points was in there getting some treatment. And that's a character right there.

Yeah, sure. He was like, he was telling a story about him and he's having a tough day. It was just not, not playing great. And he gets up to this last hole of the day, number nine. And there's some power lines that go kind of across the tee box about, I don't know, 20 to 50 yards in front of the tee box. And anyway, he hits a tee shot and they shouldn't really be in play, but you can kind of know to some, but he apparently his tee ball, his ball hits the power line and he has no idea where it went. And somebody says he saw it splashing upon like 50 yards right at the tee box, just dead right, like way out of play. Now the, the rule is you automatically have to replay the shot. So it didn't affect his, his score or anything, but he was just saying how funny it was like, you're already getting beat up, you're already having a tough day and then you hit the power lines. Like of course, like what are the chances? And so he has to read to you and whatever finished out his round. But you know, just funny stuff like that happens quite a bit, which is the beauty of the game that there's always something that kind of surprises you in a round of golf. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's you and sometimes it's the other guy, but something always happens.

Yeah, it's so true. I mean, we could stand up there with a bucket of balls and not hit that power line for an hour, you know, and the one play that one drive in play and there it goes. Um, Adam, I got to tell you this just briefly, what my buddy Randy Carriker, you know, Randy's a great guy and a huge supporter of yours, had a question on his show on ESPN last week that said, if you could be any St. Louis sports celebrity athlete, who would you be? And like the fourth guy that called in said, man, I want to be Adam long.

He's out playing the best golf courses in the country and he's winning a bunch of money. And I thought, how cool is it? First of all, that he said your name. And then second of all, this dude has no idea about 2010 and 2011 and 2012. Right, right. Yeah. I mean, it's, it definitely is, is, uh, is a lot of fun and I'm, I'm grateful for, uh, for the experience and I'm, you know, hopefully I'll be out there for a long time, but, um, you know, it's, it's way more good than bad, but, uh, it's, it's tough too. I mean, we have a five month old baby and, um, you know, I have to travel a lot with golf and can't always spend all the time with him that I wish I could, but, um, you know, we're trying to figure that out as we go, but, um, it's a, it's a great life. There's no doubt about it, but, uh, I definitely appreciate it and know that it's damn near impossible to get to the PGA tour, let alone have multiple years on tour. So it's, uh, I'm, I'm definitely grateful. I'm happy and excited what the future might hold. We really didn't mention the support and the strength of the team behind you and your wife and now your new baby.

That's a, that's a huge, huge deal to have a successful career, to have someone strong that's in your corner that's supportive. Uh, that's, that's wonderful. And congratulations on all of it. Thanks.

Yeah. It's like you said, it's a huge team behind me of coaches and caddies and family and friends. And it's, uh, you know, I definitely wouldn't be here without any of them. And, uh, it's a big reason for my success. And, and they were there for me when I was missing cuts on the e-golf tour and, and they're there for me now too.

So, uh, I definitely appreciate everyone's support and it's been a lot of fun. I'm, I'm still a, a big St. Louis Cardinals and blues fan and all that. And, uh, you know, I, I try to get back there as much as I can throughout the year and saw a lot of family and friends there and still consider St. Louis home.

And it's just kinda like I live in Florida now, but, uh, St. Louis is a big part of our lives. You had a Cardinal bag. You were, you were done in the car, done in a Cardinal bag not long ago, right? Well, the, uh, at the PGA in San Francisco, the tailor-made staff had everybody carry, it was a San Francisco giants bag, unfortunately. And I gave him a little grief about it.

Like, Hey, I'm sponsored by major league baseball, first of all. And then you're going to stick me with this giant bag for the week, but it was only for a week. It was only for seven days. I didn't keep it going. Um, I wish that, um, I had a Cardinals bag though.

Now that I think about it, we should get on that. Yeah, that was good. I was just kind of poking you.

I knew it was a giants bag, but that's kind of fun. Adam, thank you so much for the time, but continued success. I mean, we didn't even talk about 21, but you're currently 13th on the FedEx cup, a point list and, uh, just keep doing your thing, man. We're really rooting for you. You got it, man. Thanks for having me on and I appreciate the support.

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If you need anything done in your home, and the home, people are spending more time in their homes in repairs and things like that, call those guys. They do a great job. Alright, Perl, what's your first takeaway from Adam Long? I have several takeaways. First of all, I like his calm demeanor. I'm guessing that helped him along the way. One of my favorite things I've talked about a little bit coming into the show today, I just love it when people have this sense, oh, he's an instant success.

He just arrived, pulled up to the first tee, and started playing, and everything went just fine. I just don't know of too many examples that that happens ever. Tell the story about what people would say to you once you'd been in the trenches for 10, 15 years. I can remember multiple times doing trade shows in the business side, kind of gift and costume jewelry stuff years and years ago. People would come up, and the booth is packed with people and going great. The odd person would just say, hey, congratulations, man. You're obviously having a great show. Others would come up and say, oh, man, this is unbelievable.

Look at how much everybody cares. This product's fantastic. You're going to be an instant millionaire.

I remember just kind of jokingly, I looked down at my watch and say, well, I'm right around nine and a half years past instant. There's just a lot to this, whatever the profession. I love using the kind of personal stories and general life with the golf.

There just isn't overnight stuff. That doesn't mean it was a grind necessarily if you're loving what you're doing, but this guy's put his time in. He absolutely, and he spent all the years on the mini tours. All the mini tours.

Latin America, all over the place. He got a kick out of all that, but that's why he got to the point that he's gotten, and that's why now that he's there, he's producing. Well, it's interesting if you watch him. I've always watched him in this progression has been almost like you kind of draw it up. I'm sure he would have liked to have drawn it up in a much faster fashion, but we talked a little bit about the Corn Fairy tour when he was playing on it. It was called The Nationwide for so long, and how the fact, Pearl, that tour works. He's a walking, living, breathing example of that tour working, and when I was on the Player Advisory Councils and those things when I was playing all the time, we would get the numbers back for the players that kept their card from going through The Nationwide, and it was Nike and Hogan tour at the time, or going through the qualifying school.

It was overwhelmingly in favor of those that played a full year and earned their card that way. You've got to play, and you have to compete. We talk about the young stud players that you're working with right now in the St. Louis area, and one of the things, if there's something that's missing, and I know for some of them there's not, but if there's something missing, you've got to go play tournaments. You've got to go experience. You've got to go travel.

That's all absolutely big stuff. The one other piece of the couple others that stood out for me, when he talked about his final round in the desert and how low his expectations, and I just want to have fun today. Jay, I don't have that in my blood. I could not have gone out in the first round, let alone any other round, and sit there and be in the lead and say, I just want to enjoy my day and maybe finish top 10. I don't think I'll ever win. He said, I don't think I'll win.

These other guys are probably winning. He said the same thing. He made the turn.

He was like, two or three down. What would Bob Rotella say about that? That doesn't seem to be the imagery that you're supposed to have.

Now, I could also see, though, because one of my issues was getting too hyped up. So if that's what kind of keeps him in his calm, happy place, then that's obviously pretty wise. Well, that's what Bob would say.

That's kind of a contrarian point of view there, because you're supposed to think about what you want and everything. And he's like going, he kept backing himself into the spot, Pearl, of having fun, staying in the moment, that sort of thing. He would wander.

It sounded to me like he'd wander off and he'd pull himself right back. What I loved what he said was just the stuff about golf in general, how hard it is, how hard it is from day to day. You know, some days I don't feel so strong. Some days I don't feel like I can't hit a draw. Some days I can't hit a fade. Some days I can't hit it. You know, we've talked about the chasm of time between the last shot you hit on the practice range and the first shot you hit on the first tee. And he touched on that as well, like, oh, man, I don't know what's going to happen once I, you know, hit this first ball. But we've heard through the years, I've watched you. The key is to can you go out and shoot 68 when you don't have your game, when you're trying to fade it and it's slicing, trying to draw it and it's hooking, something like that. You really can't cross your lines out there and survive. But that type of stuff and not have your game, and he clearly understands that. That is such a huge piece of it. People don't understand, you might be on your game on a good tournament, a total of what, a round and a half or something like that where things are clicking. Otherwise, can I miss it in the right place? You know, can I lean on my short game?

Can I just accept that so I'm not just heating up to where I can't even finish because I'm so darn frustrated? How about when he said he qualified for the U.S. Open as soon as he turned pro and knew he didn't belong? Yeah.

But also what he said once he was there, and he's playing with these guys and for the first time he realized this really struck me that they are not perfect, that they do miss shots. Pearl, that's another show in the books. You know, do you want to take a guess at what number show this is? Total or this year?

Total. Ninety-six. Yep.

Your guy's got a mind like a steel trap. Is it? Is it ninety-six?

I knew it was a route there. Or ninety-four. Well, then it's not ninety-six. Maybe ninety-three.

I don't know what it is either. I don't know facts around here. We're close. We're close. We know facts. We know we're close.

Me, thanks so much for keeping track of us, which is a full-time job. And we will be back with you next week. And we're going to have Dan Deardorff, NFL Hall of Famer, on the show. So don't miss it. Looking forward to it. This is Golf with Jay Delsing.

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