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Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing.

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Inside of your house, outside of your house, give them a call. Alright, Pearly, we got a cool interview with Martin Brodeur. This guy, I mentioned this to you off the air. You know, this stupid term in the big media, I guess we're not really media.

Real media is these unintended consequences. Yeah, I hate that. Absolutely makes me crazy.

That's kind of cuckoo. But one of our unintended consequences is when I get to do this prep for some of the cool people that I've been able to interview, I'm just blown away at what these guys have accomplished. And Martin Brodeur, 22 seasons in the NHL, three Stanley Cups, two Olympic gold medals, Hall of Famer, first in NHL wins, losses, shutouts, games played.

He's got four Vezna trophies. I mean, it just keeps going. It's such a great interview you had. I'm looking forward to everybody getting to hear it.

It's really fun. Alright, so we've added a new segment started last month. The Gateway section of the PGA, just phenomenal people are joining the show and we're doing a little spot. A segment. Yeah, we're doing something and we call it the Gateway Spotlight and we are highlighting individuals within, you know, our section.

And some of these guys are just, you know, the little minute or two that we do on them just doesn't do them justice. I mean, first of all, I'm going to interview Kevin Corn with what he does for Rankin Jordan and that'll be on the show in a little while. But he goes over to that bridge hospital where these kids are just in rough shape and introduce them to the game of golf and watch them lift their spirits up and it's just incredible. But David Cantrell, who was on a couple of weeks ago from Cape Girardeau, he's a retired 25-year Navy captain, lost his leg not long ago in a motorcycle accident.

It wasn't as a PGA professional, scratch handicap. And before his accident, he was responsible for this day called Flag Day down there, John. So on Flag Day, they would line the streets with a flag representing every fallen veteran from Cape Girardeau. Pull this up, Cape Girardeau Flag Day. It is awesome. Well, he's in this accident and couldn't put the flags up and the entire community came to his door and did this stuff.

And also were, you know, these banners and ribbons and, hey, man, we miss you, get well soon sort of thing. That stuff never gets any play in it. I just loved it. And then Lance Flurry is on this week's show. And this is a dude in Springfield, Illinois, that runs two of the municipal golf courses over there.

Great guy. They have this tournament and it's been run over 80 years. It's called the Drysdale Junior Golf Tournament. And they've had up to 600 kids up there this year.

Two and 300 kids. And probably play match play. That's awesome. I love that.

I love that. Yeah, it's really a cool thing. So I just wanted to thank those guys. Keep your ears open for more of these spotlight events. And there's so many of these men and women in our community that are doing these things like that.

We just want to kind of highlight them and give them a little heads up. And, John, just briefly, this NIL NCAA ruling, so name, image, likeness. Golf is going to be a weird one here because of amateur standing. I don't know. The USGA says they're going to come out with something in January.

You got any thoughts on it? Well, I'm with you. I think it's going to be a tough one. Because then they're going to change all amateur status throughout because of what college is doing. I can't imagine them doing that. Maybe they will. Is USGA going to go down that route?

Is the Masters going to go down that route for the kids that qualify from winning the USM, Mid-Am, that type of stuff, British Am? It's going to be kind of a wild one. You brought that up the other day.

And the tentacles involved, the unintended consequences, as we hate to say, here are far-reaching and could really, really change our sport for the kids. I want to give the quick tip of the cap segment. It's brought to you by Dean Team of Kirkwood. 314-966-0303. I want to tip my cap today to the Evans Scholarship Program and to all the clubs and courses everywhere that support caddies and caddy programs. I grew up as a caddy, love the experiences that I had, and I just want to thank the Evans Scholarship Program for trying to continue that. And I want to thank Colin and Brandy at the Dean Team of Kirkwood for sponsoring the tip of the cap segment.

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Probably going to be the best field on the Champions Tour. Alright John, we're going to go right into this Martin Brodeur interview. He's got a ridiculous list of accomplishments.

We talked about it a little bit at the opening. But let's just jump right into the interview with Marty Brodeur. Marty Brodeur. It is home debut in St. Louis. Coming off good number 689 in his career.

Back is lost. Here comes Wilson around a man in on goal. And Martin Brodeur makes two saves in the blows goal. And that's how he starts his career as a blue. Martin Brodeur is brought to you by Golden Tee. Man, aside from 22 seasons in the NHL, Hall of Famer, three Stanley Cup rings, two Olympic gold medals.

You're number one in four of the most amazing categories for any goaltender to ever play the NHL. You also love the game of golf. So we're going to have a lot of fun to talk about this morning.

Yeah, definitely. I think it's a sport that I took when I was really young through my family, from my brother and my dad. Something that, like everybody knows that's listening, it's an addictive sport. So it's fun. I know. Once it kind of bites you, you just can't hit it.

It won't let go, will it? It's one of those things that when you start, that next shot will bring you back to the course all the time. You've made a lot of friendship through the years throughout the golf community.

So it's been great. Marty, take us back to your childhood growing up in Eastern Canada. Your dad played on the 1956 Team Canada team, didn't he? Yeah, so I grew up in Montreal. My family was heavily involved in sport. My dad was obviously, he played hockey at a young age and was able to represent Canada at the Olympics in 1956 in Italy.

He was the winner of a bronze medal that year. And he became a sports photographer from there, working for the Montreal Canadiens, the Montreal Expos, the Alouettes and the Canadian Football League. And my big brother was a baseball player, played triple-A ball for the Montreal Expos. And so I grew up right in the thick of things, you know, kind of try to understand a bit what athletes are all about, just because my dad had to deal with them as a photographer. And knowing what my brother had to go through in his career in baseball.

So I was pretty fortunate to have an upbringing the way I did. Yeah, you know, as I look back at it, Martin, with my dad playing baseball, there were things that I learned that I had knowledge of that I had no idea I had learned, you know, until I needed them and went through it. Yeah, and you know, for me, it's the dinner table just sitting there and my dad would come up and say a few things about players and how they are and how they kind of ruined his day or made his day.

And, you know, it just kind of, you know, kind of luggage that you just kind of keep on, you know, put on your back and say, you know what, one day that's going to be something I'll be able to use. And it's funny because, you know, lots of things, the respect I have for the media, the photographers, the people that are involved, that are not part of the team, but they're people that are employed and need to do a job, you know, need the respect from these athletes. And sometimes you could tell these athletes don't care to just, you know, kind of move on. But just because my dad was one of those guys, I always take a special time for them, you know, making sure that I was on time, you know, and I was going to do certain things for them. And I think it was really appreciated from the people I dealt with throughout my career just because the experience I had with my dad and it's like, it's not fun.

You hear your idol and the guy's like 20 minutes late for, you know, for a meeting. Next thing you know, my dad's not home for dinner because of that guy, you know, and so these are things that stays with you. It's interesting, you know, there were such similarities in the way we grew up, Marty, because the dinner table was like where everything happened, you know, everybody kind of recanted their day and it sounds like you guys had the same thing. Yeah, and I try to do the same thing with my kids now, you know, I think we sit there, we put the phones away and we just talk about our day, you know, I think, you know, you're each lifestyle is going to pull you in different direction. And you know, the dinner table is where everything comes back. So I think it's an important time in the in the day for the family.

Yeah, I really, as I look back, I really appreciate that. And I had no clue when, you know, we were never allowed to miss dinner. We never went out to dinner, Marty, we always had dinner at the house. My dad was, he overcooked everything, you know, just threw a bunch of barbecue sauce on it, and we didn't know any different.

So we just ate everything there. But I really can appreciate that those times. So it's one of those things you remember, remember, when you're your child, your childhood is so important. That's why when I when people ask me like about like life advice and everything. So like, you know what, take time, take time to take care of the people around you.

It's important because it stays it stays for a lifetime. Yeah, that journey. I mean, having your dad be a player and a bronze medal winner at such a high level and then also being a photographer at such a high level. I mean, those are two great perspectives.

Yeah, for sure. Like I said, like, I was lucky enough to grow up in the in the family that was heavily involved in sport. And like I said, I didn't know where, where my path was gonna lead me.

But obviously, I took a lot of the advice that I was fortunate enough to have from him. Marty, I love this story that I read about you. You I think you said one day, one of the most important questions was asked of you by I think a junior coach, and said, Do you want to play this?

Or do you want to play goaltender? And I think I was just amazed that it was kind of put at you at such an early age. And the way things turned out, it just made me chuckle. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things you never know the, you know, the big moments in your life. You know, you just kind of would instinct you.

You do what you want to do and would you do what you love. And for me was a situation that I was a little bit younger than junior. I was like, it was eight years old. And one of my coach, my dad just dropped me at the at the rink in training camp, like in August. And the guy just asked me, he's like, you want to be a goalie or you won't be a forward this year, because I finished the year as a goalie and a forward. So I was playing on two teams.

And so you just, you know, courtesy just asked me what I wanted to do. And I just, you know, I'll be I'll be the goalie. And I just love the fact that I was gonna be able to play the whole game, don't have to sit on the bench. So that's, that's the reason why I decided to play goalie. And obviously, if you look back, you know, I could have said forward and me and you are probably not talking right now.

It is amazing. I'm talking with Martin Brodeur. Marty, you are the only goalie with 841 seasons in the NHL. Let's talk about being a first round pick for the New Jersey Devils. And then, man, I look at you 22 seasons in the NHL and one of those with the St. Louis Blues and my brother and I are just and I know you know, my brother, just diehard blues fans, man, we wish it would have been the other way around. We wish we would have had you for 21. And New Jersey would have got you for one.

But talk about the years with the devil's man. You guys had a great run. Yeah, you know, I was, I was fortunate, you know, I definitely after my junior year got drafted in the first round for the devils. And I played one year in the minors and 20 years old and I cracked the lineup when I was 21.

Just a fun, fun time in New Jersey when I came up. I think the team was turning the corner there. They were becoming a really good team. I think Lou Lamarr yellow became the GM and in 88 if I'm not mistaken. Now we're talking about 92 93 94 season. They hire Jacques Lamare Montreal greats one multiple Stanley Cups to be our head coach, and I think that's where the devil's just transition into the powerhouse. And you know, I came in as a rookie chocolate mayor was not a big fan of rookies.

So I was kind of had to play wealthy to keep playing, but I can earn a structure through the years. And obviously, losing to the Rangers in 94 and second overtime in game seven was devastating for the organization and for myself was my first playoff playoff here, and we bounced back right away 95 been winning our first Stanley Cup against Detroit sweeping them in four games. And you know what, you start your first two season and you think, wow, this is easy, no conference finals the first year, winning the same cup the second year. And after that we have some great teams and we never really got a sniff until 2000, where we we can retool their team a little bit got got got younger and got a few guys like Scott Gomez, John Madden, Brian Rafofsky, Colin White, just inject some some new energy made some praise for McGilney and some some some high power often got guys and we were able to win our second Stanley Cup but it was funny like every year for five years like this is not that easy. You know because it became so easy as the first two years of my career but we had a great run we had a great team.

But I think the credit goes to our general manager I think he's the one that that put teams together, you know, there was no salary cap again so it's a little different the way you conduct your business like, you know, I find some contracts with deferred money so just to help out the owner so we could get more players to play now you know with salary cap you just can't do that anymore. So it's a, I think we took advantage of the good times there in New Jersey winning three Stanley Cups. Obviously, we, we lost one you know we always the regrets of losing you know the 2001 to Colorado and 2012 to LA.

We're really the big disappointment but I think the experience always stays with you though. Talk a little bit about the difficulty of winning the Stanley Cup when, when the blues one in 2019, man I watched every minute of every playoff game and I was exhausted, and I didn't get hit, I didn't skate up and down the ice. I mean, there's, there's always been the lure that Stanley Cup is the hardest, you know trophy to win that talk a little bit about that because it's got to be a mental and a physical grind.

Yeah, definitely. I think it's it's the hardest trophy to win you know if you ask me. I think the commitment of your players is one thing that commitment of your management is another thing. There's a lot of factors and then why teams are winning.

And there's a lot of luck. You know if you really look at every standing up winners, there's always a breaking point somewhere that you know he's still going, or, or it's over, and I'm telling every family cup that I want. I probably could pinpoint the moment in the playoffs that, you know, we tell that we didn't we've been we didn't break, you know, and I think the injury. You know, I think the matchups some teams, you know you don't match up as well as other so there's there's a lot of factors that goes into the playoff. And after that it's the grind you know like who the players will be able to play with injury.

Who's going to like bail on you. The guy that's going to come in, we have, you know, we call them the black aces and the people that practices but don't play in the playoffs are probably one of the guys the most important because you know what they'll get in the playoffs at one point, and it's how they perform it can make a big difference, you know, like your top layers will always your top players, they're always going to be there for you. But what makes a difference and then you saw yesterday in the game with Tampa is the third floor line guys, you know they score goals in the playoffs, you know, and, and that's the depth of your organization that becomes into play. Yeah, you know, I mean, I totally agree that people are always asking like what's the difference between winning a Stanley Cup or a gold medal, you know, and my answer is like, you know, like Stanley Cup you win it with your family. You know you, you go to war for sometimes it's four or five years you've been a teammate with the guy for for a long time before you're able to always the Stanley Cup.

And other times, guys that are coming in just at the trade deadline. And, you know, now you become friends and this guy never want to stand like up we've won two already. So you want to make you know that guy, you know, living the dream is dream is winning a Stanley Cup so there's a lot of circumstances and the reason why you see these guys partying like animals.

Oh my gosh, it is. Talk a little bit Marty about the bro door rule, I, I'm, I'm fascinated by this because I can remember when they first instigated it I think it was an old five and six, and it was all based around Europe, you were a great puck handler. And the funny thing that has grown up as a kid Marty that I thought, and I don't know much about hockey I just love the game, but I thought the goalies would mess the puck up more than they handled it well. And when they put in this rule they did it because you handle the puck so well, it could relieve a lot of pressure off your defenseman couldn't you. Yeah, I mean that's, that's one of the things that took a lot of pride in my puck playing ability and that was one thing that I worked hard at it when I was young. You know, I think it takes a lot of hockey sense it's a skill and something that I had that made not many other goalies I had.

And, you know, obviously, more and more that I played in the league, more and more other goalies would start playing the puck also. So the NHL just felt that it was a. It was time for them to make a rule about not wandering with the puck and you know because it's. I get it, you know, I think, you know, the forecheck and like, I know when the way we play you we we always crowded the neutral zone and they had no choice to dump the puck and I was grabbing it and I was making a pass and back where we're back in offense, you know, and it really was tough on different teams you know that they played us especially in the playoffs and they were trying to find ways to try to try to figure me out the way I would, I would play the game I think my defenseman loved it nobody was getting hit because I was the one playing the puck all the time. So it's one of those things that when they put it that rule that those two lines behind the net there. But at the same time they took away the red line for the two line pass. So for me, you know, I was still enough to be able to catch up before the goal line and quick enough to get it behind my net. But it gave me the opportunity to make passes always to the next blue line. So I was I was okay with the rule actually didn't bother me. My big concern was my players getting hit, you know, like the buck would be sitting there and my defenseman was just going to get run over. I couldn't help him. And that's what kind of made me mad about that rule more than anything.

It's not me. I figure out the way to play the game. It was just like I said, the contact a lot of accidents happen because guys are coming in so fast with no no clutching and grabbing at the end there.

And you know, go escape the park. So there's a lot of big collision that happened in the corners. Yeah, that's what I was saying that the defenseman are just getting killed out there now. Yeah, just I mean, just the fact that the goalies are able to move the puck made a big difference in how guys would forecheck, you know, and that that helped, obviously, some of the defenseman. All right, that's gonna wrap up the front nine but don't go anywhere. We will give you the rest of that Martin Brodeur interview on the back nine.

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I appreciate it. Hey, tell the folks about the great stuff you're doing in Springfield. I know you're the director of golf at the two courses, two municipal courses there. Tell us about the Drysdale. Yeah, so the Drysdale is, this will be the 84th year this year.

It's named after a sportswriter from Springfield. And what's unique about it is it's a four-day event, first day of stroke play, then we put them into brackets and they play match play for the rest of the week and get them down to two players per flight on Thursday. So, really neat opportunity. We've been fortunate to have Conee Elevator sponsored the last couple of years.

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I was just fascinated. Yeah, so it's declined a little bit over the years, but we still have between 200 to 300 to participate between the 18 hole facility and the 9 hole facility as well. So, we got the younger kids at Bergen Golf Course and the older kids playing at BUN. Well, that's just terrific. And thanks so much for joining me this morning and keep doing the great stuff in Springfield, Illinois. Jay, I appreciate you having us on.

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Jump one. Blocked out in front. Oh, the pass. Stop made by Brodeur. Cleared back a long not out. One more by Barker.

Blocked. And Martin Brodeur is the winningest ball tender in the NHL. Martin Brodeur is brought to you by Golden Tee. It's a four-time Besna Trophy winner, which is the award for the top goalie in the NHL. Five-time Jennings Trophy winner.

Ten-time All-Star Calder Trophy winner for Rookie of the Year. Marty, did you get to play? Let's shift gears a little bit to golf and stuff. Did you ever get to play any during the season? I mean, I know what New Jersey's like in the wintertime.

Yeah, you know, during the winter, it's kind of hard, obviously, being playing in New Jersey to play. But when we would go in Florida or Arizona or California, we'd rent clubs and go out on our days off, you know, and try to play a little bit. But I kind of, it's funny, I got hooked up in golf, I think, at a young age, and that to me was, I loved playing golf during the hockey season.

It kind of took me away from the game. So, like, in 2000, when we had the run, I would play nine holes after every game at home with my assistant pro at the country club I belonged at the time, Essex Fell Country Club in New Jersey. And so that would be great. Like, I would play the game at night. Next morning, I woke up, probably get to the club around eight o'clock in the morning and spend about two hours with my assistant pro just kind of taking a card because I don't want to get tired. But just kind of play golf, work on my swing. And just in after the round, I would just take lunch and go to practice and get ready for the next game. So I did that, like, for two months in 2000. And that really helped me kind of, and I didn't tell anybody that because I'm sure my coach wouldn't appreciate me going to play golf in between day games. But that's the way it did.

I thought it worked out well. We won that year, we won that cup. Marty, the mental side of being a goaltender, how did you deal with some of the things? I mean, golf is such a fine line, but man, you guys are playing on ice, the speed of the game, the power, the way the guys shoot the puck. And it had to be tough sometimes.

Yeah. I mean, I think we're in a position a bit like a golfer and you see a quarterback or a pitcher, you're in your head a lot. You sit back there. Yes, you do have teammates, but you know what?

You can't talk to them really because they're on the bench or they're playing the game. So all the adversity that you're going through and the difficulties that you see coming at you, you have to deal by yourself a lot. And I think it's one of those things you take everything in stride. You have to be focused. I think you can't be over focused. I think that's one thing I learned like with playing with other players or other seeing other goalies or even for myself that when you start thinking too much, sometimes it goes the other way on you. And so I always had the times of the game that I would really space out and not think about what I was doing. And for me in hockey was in between the whistles. You know, and I would make a point to really skate out of my crease and get the game out of my head until the puck was dropped again. And I think it really helped me to focus when the time was coming to perform because you're not over focusing. When you play hockey, you're on the ice.

It's a two and a half hour thing. So if you always concentrate and grinding it, it becomes tough for you mentally and there's breakdowns mentally. So you really have to get in and out of the game as much as you can and to be able to refocus the right way when the opportunities are coming in front of you. Yeah, you know Marty, I get asked all the time, how do you guys concentrate for four hours at a round of golf? And I say, we don't.

We do exactly what you said. It's these spurts of going in and out. You know, you're in for this shot and now you deal with what you just did and then you walk to go hit your next shot and in between that, my mind's talking hockey, sports, whatever, family, whatever it is. And then, you know, then you jump back in or else, man, you'd be exhausted at the end of the day.

Yeah, and it takes you a while to figure that one out because you're so focused. You want to do so well that you sometimes just overdo it. You know, I think it becomes a routine. You have to have a routine that you're comfortable with. And whenever you feel that you have success with that routine, you just stay with it, you know, and stay with it. And again, you know, like in sports, like the guys are going to, you know, they're superstitious, you know, something happens.

Oh, you have success. Next thing you know, you try to do the same thing. For me, it was, you know, when I played the game of hockey was all right. I get up in the morning. I was doing the same thing over and over, not because I was superstitious, because I knew exactly how I was going to feel when game time is going to come. So whatever I put in my body as far as food or drinks, I knew exactly how, you know, how I was going to feel at night. So that's why I didn't change much about like my diet or anything. I just made sure that I ate the same thing over and over. Just so, you know, like I said, it's part of my routine.

It's not like I was superstitious. I just wanted to make sure that I felt the same way every time I needed to perform. And that's what sometimes athletes have a hard time with, you know, how do you get yourself to be at the peak performance when it's time?

Yeah, I think one of the hardest things for me, Marty, was playing my best when I needed it, right? I mean, I could hit. You felt this before you get on the driving range. You don't miss a shot. You go over the first tee and you grab your driver and it feels like you got something else in your hand. Trust me, you know, like when you play for 22 years, there's a lot of those things happen to me, too.

But you have to fight through it. That's, you know, that's the difference between being a great athlete or just an average athlete. Yeah. So, Marty, when you, were you literally, was your mindset when you were playing hockey, was it literally see the puck, stop the puck? Or, I mean, obviously you probably kept trying to keep your body as square to the shooter as you could, but your game moves so quickly. I mean, sometimes you're just, you know, you're just laying it all out on the line in one direction or another, trying to get a piece of that puck. Yeah, you know, a lot of it is positioning. You know, I think you have to keep your eye on the puck, obviously.

But the game is so fast with some of the screens that you have in front of you, some of the deflections. So, you know, like anything, your posture in the net is important. You know, being square to the puck, like you said, is probably the main thing. But you have to anticipate, you know, you have to have some hockey IQ to understand where the puck is going, how players are thinking, and what are their habits as far as shooting. And that's all the homework you do before a game, knowing that Ovechkin is going to be at this spot at all times. Or for me, back then, when I played the Blues, I knew exactly where Brett Hall was all the time, because I knew he was going to probably score on me if I don't pay attention. So I knew exactly where he was, but I didn't have to look at him the whole time. I just knew where he's at.

And these are just homework as a goalie you have to do if you want to be successful, just to be a bit ahead of the game, just knowing what tendencies players have. Marty, tell us a little bit about your one year in St. Louis. It changed you a little bit. You think differently about our town now, don't you? Well, you know, to be honest, I didn't have any opinion about your town, because I was never really here. I was in and out. But listen, it changed our lives. My wife and I and my son Max live here now for almost seven years.

But it's kind of a blessing in the skies a little bit. I played my whole career in New Jersey, thought I was going to retire and go to Florida. You know, and I belong to a great spot in Pine Tree Golf Club there in Boyden Beach, Florida. And I was going to move there when I was done with the Devils and got a phone call. I think it was the middle of November. Brian Elliott just got hurt. I didn't even know I didn't watch the game the night before. And Doug Armstrong and Al McKinnon gave me a call at home and they asked me if I was still in shape to play, they would love to give me a pro contract, just a tryout contract to see how it looks. And I kind of talked to my wife.

I never thought about playing anywhere else in my life. I was retired. I was going to hang it up in January. I was just kind of waiting. And I said, well, this could be a good challenge.

And, you know, kind of took the flight to St. Louis, you know, kind of flew over the the arch. I was like, wow, this is pretty cool. You know, just I felt like a kid, you know, just it was kind of weird, a weird feeling.

I've never left New Jersey, never thought about playing anywhere else. And obviously I came in. It was kind of rough time with the Ferguson riots and everything that was just at the tail end of that.

So it's kind of weird a little bit to walk around with in Clayton when the military was there with the big truck and everything. So that was kind of interesting. But yeah, so I got I got to play. They decided to keep me on. And I knew it was going to be a short short term contract because Brian, I think, was coming back in about two or three months. And so I just stayed, stayed on, played a few games, got to know the area, got to know the people around the organization, met some great friends. I was there for two months. Like I said, my my wife came down with my little one.

We put him in a daycare school here in somewhere in Clayton, I think. And when, you know, when they didn't need me anymore, I decided to retire in January or February. And Doug asked me to stick around because I know you want to do you want to be part of management one day because I could teach you a little bit if you want to stick around.

And it's funny, I knew Doug, but not a lot, but I knew him from Team Canada. And I felt it was a great opportunity for me to learn a little bit. And, you know, my family was already here, so it was an easy thing to do. And so we we did that for the rest of the year. And he offered me an assistant general manager job for, you know, signed me to a contract for three years with him and kind of stayed. And, you know, we never left, you know, just like I said, like my wife loves it here.

I love it. I work in New Jersey now, but I commute back and forth. I think they're pretty lenient on my time over there. So I'm able to kind of meet, you know, what I want to do in the hockey management and, you know, family life in St. Louis has been great. Which which place has a more favorite golf courses for you? Oh, you know, that's a toughie.

St. Louis is a bit of a sleeper, but, you know, obviously in the New York area, it's kind of pretty good, you know, the ball to stroll in the playing field. And I'm a member at the Essex County Country Club. Oh, that's beautiful. All that old. Yeah. Old courses, obviously.

Sorry. You go in like, you know, in the Pennsylvania, you have Marion right there. You have Pine Valley. That's not too far.

So I think there's more quantity. But I think St. Louis, like I belong to Boone Valley and it's pretty special place. You know, it's a small membership and we get to play as much as we can there.

And it's a nice drive to get all the way to Augusta, Missouri there. And I'm at Meadowbrook also. That's more of a busier club, but great track and maybe made a lot of friends through to some of my golf membership. Like I said, I'm kind of an addict about golf. I think every house that I have, like I have a golf club member somewhere. I enjoy I enjoy the game of my family.

My son, my son right now is in Florida, stay in my house, try to try to make it on some of the mini tours and stuff like that. So it's kind of nice to see you. Now, Marty, I knew that about your son. I wanted to ask you, does he come to you for any mental advice?

Because there's so many similarities. Yeah, he does. He does a little bit. I think I try to make him learn the hard way at times. I think it's important for him to get it.

But he does have some questions. You know, I was on his bag. We did the Q school for the Mackenzie tour.

I think it was in, I would say maybe in March or something like that. So I was on the bag for four rounds with him caddying. And, you know, I kind of saw a little bit some of the stuff that he needs to kind of work on and the way he's conducted himself. But it's tough. Like, I'm not a pro golfer and I'm not that good at it. Like, I'm a nine handicap, so it's not like I'm killing anybody here and I can't really give advice. But I think on the mental part with what I've accomplished, I think there's a lot of things that could really help him try to kind of figure it out.

Yeah, absolutely. What's your favorite part of the game? Do you have any good golf stories that you could share with us with, you know, maybe some of your NHL buddies or anyone?

Well, yeah, I mean, I got a bunch of it. I think, like, I was fortunate enough to have three holes and all-in-ones, you know? And so I always say, like, my favorite one was on Father's Day. I don't know, it was a bunch of years back and I was playing with all my three sons at the time.

Now I have four, but my little one wasn't born. And they were killing me. Like, they were playing better than me and I was able to hit a hole-in-one right in their face. That was the fun one. But I got a good one.

Like I said, I've been fortunate. I played a lot of golf and last Thursday, you know, I mean, I don't want to offend anybody with politics here, but I got a phone call from a course in Bedminster, New Jersey. And it was the head pro, Mickey Gallagher, called me and he says, well, 45 would like to play with you tomorrow.

Are you available? And I was like, 45? What's 45? And I kind of put it together. It was Donald Trump. Yeah, so I got to spend the whole day with him, played a round of golf, had lunch and, you know, barely talked politics.

And it was just kind of fun to be with the president of the United States playing golf and have Secret Service around you, like snipers around, you know, it was kind of pretty cool. All right, that's going to wrap up that interview. Perley, give me a quick hit that you took away from that interview. The first parts of it, especially his calm demeanor and the connection with family, sitting down for family dinners. You and I just love that.

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I need to change the audio. I have a fresh perspective that I'm just trying to share. Is this the first time you've heard the show? How's our social media stuff doing, Meek? It's doing great. Oh, good. Let's change the music up a little bit. Yeah, go ahead, Pearl. Change it up.

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This is Pearly, though. He is Mr. Delegator. Hey, this is what you probably ought to do. Hey, do you want to do it?

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Michelobultra 19th hole. Here we go. All right.

All right. Martin Brodeur. There is a rule created in the game of hockey. The trapezoid behind the goal was done because this guy handled the puck so well. Everybody hated playing against New Jersey because they blocked up the middle of the ice so the opposing team had to dump the puck and chase it. Well, Marty would go grab the puck and shoot it out and they'd turn it into offense. I mean, everybody's getting pissed. That's how special you are when you're that creative to, after all the years of that sport, for him to actually do something that they had to change some of the rules.

That's just absolutely awesome. What about the thing when he's eight years old and he goes into practice and the coach says, you want to play forward or you want to play goalie this year? And he says it's like one of the biggest decisions he ever makes. He's like, oh, I'll just play goalie. And here's this guy, like the best all-time goalie ever.

Probably. I mean, in the discussion, for sure. I love what he said to us because if I would have been a forward or defenseman, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. But, Jay, that's a question I had for you. I thought that was one of the key moments of your interview with him because I think we can all relate to it. You and I talk about key moments actually in a game of golf, key moments in a tournament. He's talking about life kind of key moments. First of all, one I was going to encourage you, when you interview anybody going down the pike, I think that could be a great question. What is one or two key moments in your life? And again, did you think them through?

They just happened and you kind of reacted. So I'm going to throw it at you. Unprepared? Unprepared.

That's an oxymoron on our show. So what was a key moment in your golf career? Oh my gosh, getting a scholarship to UCLA, for sure. And then getting through the first Q school. Because you can get hung up on that pro and never, ever. That can be a mental hurdle that can take you down. And I can remember going through that and I wasn't very good. I mean, and thinking, I got this. Well, that's kind of the key that you need to have.

If you have, I got this, you're way ahead of most of the guys out there. And I had no business having an I got this. Well, I don't know. I don't know about that. You had a pretty good college career.

But I think that's cool. I think in business, when I look back at my first business and that kind of stuff, there was one or two key things. Can I say that I really thought them out? I think one or two. One was probably pretty obvious. And another one came out of absolutely nowhere and I happened to make the right decision, which I believe has to do with some other things that we can talk about someday. But I think that's so cool that we all have that and the way how much or how little control we might actually have of it.

I thought it was awesome. Well, what about what Marty said? He goes, to win the Stanley Cup, it takes so much luck. And he goes, I can pinpoint on every Stanley Cup win throughout the playoffs how we got bounces. We got a call.

Things went our way. And anyone that's won the Stanley Cup can say the same thing. But how many times have you heard that from tour players as well? I remember Corey Pavan out of school when he won a couple of times. He said, here's the deal.

It has to be a course that fits me and I have to get lucky. You look back at some of the U.S. Open winners through the years. The guys, they snap hook it out of bounds. It hits some limb or some fence, comes back. They wedge it in front, chip it in and all of a sudden they made a birdie instead of an accident where they were going home.

Absolutely. And that's back to have a little resilience and stay in the game. Who knows what can happen. And, Pearl, who was the guy at the U.S. Open this year at Torrey that hooked his three iron on number 11 and got stuck under the tree? Was that Mackenzie Hughes?

The great young Canadian player? I mean, really? How does that happen? Well, those things can happen. Then all of a sudden, now your brain goes through.

Anything can happen. A seagull could carry this thing off or one of those kite guys. You have hang gliders out there. Grab it and take off with it. So then your mind can go the other way.

When you get that bounce in your favor, then you're thinking, oh, I can hit it in a house and still make a birdie? Okay, I'm going to free it up here a little bit. Yeah, it's interesting. Poof.

Here's another show gone. Wow. We have more to talk to just on this interview. I thought it was one of your best, Jay. Thanks. Thank you. Well, thanks for joining me, Pearl. Me, thanks for taking good care of us or screwing us up a little less than you did last time or what you might the next time we do it. This is golf with Jay Delsing. Hit them straight, St. Louis.