Golf With Jay Delsing - - Tom Randolph

Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing.

On The Range is brought to you by the Gateway section of the PGA. Hey, good morning. This is Golf with Jay Delsing.

I'm Jay, your host. Perley, what's up? Where are you?

What's going on? I know you're in Florida. Where are you? No, I'm in Texas. Down in Texas. Burnt end beef is what I'm after down here, baby. Burnt end beef. Wow.

Must be nice. I don't know what that is. Did you miss that invite as well? I didn't get that one either. Yeah, the mail's slow, Meat.

The mail's slow, yeah. It doesn't reach over here where the peons live. All right, we formatted a show like Around the Golf.

The first segment is called the On The Range segment, and the On The Range segment is brought to you by the Gateway section of the PGA. There's over 300 men and women in our section, in our area, southern Illinois, all the way up to Quincy, all different parts of the state of Missouri that spend countless hours doing things behind the scenes in front of their membership, in front of their folks, enhancing our golf experience. And we want to thank them and appreciate them being part of the show. What's our social media look like?

We got to get some real meat on this report from you today. Well, Twitter's fantastic. Snapchat is unbelievable.

Your LinkedIn posts are just hot as can be. But the Facebook, Zuckerberg's in a lot of trouble with all the garbage he's been doing in front of Congress, and he finds ways not to return my phone call. So I can't really give you an update on Facebook. So we don't know anything about Insta either, do we?

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All right, Pearl. I am jacked up Ryder Cup special today. We've got our college teammate UCLA fellow student Tom Randolph. He's been producing, co-producing and producing golf for NBC Sports for 43 years.

And we are talking all Ryder Cup this show. That's awesome. Tommy's a fun guy. I think he did a nice interview. And what a wealth of knowledge. I wish we could have him on a whole lot more. He's seen a lot of different things and he's worked with some big, big names. Yeah, he really has. All right, so Pearl, first of all, you and I have played whistling straights.

We were playing up in the GMO several times. First of all, how gorgeous is that property? You know, we've both been way lucky to see great properties really throughout the world.

And I text Tom Randolph a day before the Ryder Cup just to tell him how gorgeous it is and wish him a good show and things like that. I'll tell you, Jay, and I know pebble spectacular. You can't beat pebbles 18. I get all that.

But that was beyond stunning for me. What Dias created there and what they've put together there and cultivated for all these years to make it that special. It's a bucket list. If you're a golfer, it's a bucket list place. And by the way, it's Wisconsin, so it's easy to get to. Yeah, from the Midwest. Yeah, I mean, you fly into Milwaukee and then you got about an hour's drive.

And you know, John, I'm not a Pete Dye fan of the golf courses he's done. But that place, when you walk off the first green, the way he's got that mounted, you walk over off the first green through that little walkway to the second tee and all of a sudden you see Lake Michigan. When you're like, what's that? It looks like an ocean. I mean, remember, and I looked at you, I'm like, huh?

There's this, there's, you know, there's water on this property. It was great. Anyway, what about the red, white and blue? My hat is off to Steve Stricker. His, his vice captains did a great job. They stayed out of the way, so to speak.

Pearl, nothing was really about them, even strict. You know, he's such a low key guy, cool Midwestern guy. Just he, he, he got the guys together. He funneled all of the credit to those guys. And man, Pearl, I am so geeked about the youth on this team and where we're going.

I totally agree with you, but before we get into that, and we have to get into that, cause that's a big topic. I get a kick out of Stricker. He could barely talk without, without crying. Oh no, he was crying. The tears were rolling down his eyes and I sent him a text and I'm like, man, that was, that was a great interview. Congratulations.

I've never been more proud to, to, to wear the red, white and blue. And he goes, thanks, man. He goes, I don't think I said anything. I was crying so hard. Well, but my point is he cried at the opening ceremony. He cried at the questions afterwards. He cried at the closing ceremony.

He cried in between guy was just, you know, it was, it was so interesting because he did a great job walking a tight rope. In my opinion, we've both been in events when the fans get unruly. And I think the cheering is fantastic, but you golf different.

You can't, it's not like when a guy shoot a foul shot in an NBA game and you, you, you cheer him and you try to throw them off golf different. And I appreciate the way Stricker handled it almost, almost on the edge of detrimental to the team kind of pushing back. But then also talk about what, uh, how Spieth, I think you have a little bit more insight on how kind of Spieth backed off a couple of fans that were on the line as well. Absolutely.

Straight away first match of the day, first match of the, of the Ryder Cup. And he got in the face of a fan who was being overly rude to the European side. And he's like, we're not doing that. And I thought it was spectacular. And then he also, you know, Pearl, there's just, there was just, there's an edginess to this team that I just love. There's, they've got a little swagger.

They're not over the top. They're not disrespectful, but they had fun and they're a confident bunch and what the hell they should be. Well, I, I'm glad they set the tone because of, of that, keeping the fans in and the announcers did, I think the PGA was trying to do it. It's important. This game is different. And if we let it just go by the wayside and we're throwing things at players and hurling nasty comments and that kind of stuff. I just, I just don't think the game benefits from that.

And I think it could take a lot of weight. So I appreciate the way Stricker handled a lot of that. And you know, who else handled it? Well, because it wasn't perfect, right?

By a long shot. Patrick handled a fantastic, you could tell a couple of times he was, he was choking down frustration and saying how much he appreciated the fans. Cause in general, I'm sure he did, but he never sat there and said, you know, a small number of people are ruining it or a small number of people cost a shot, you know, and there's one time I watched him because you feel like, Oh, I think he's just ready to explode and just spit bullets.

And he just didn't do it. And I thought that showed so much class because they set the tone for the next one and the next one. And that's what leaders do in my opinion.

And both those guys did a great job leading, but you and I can really get back to the emotional part of these guys. We talk about our kids, we talk about our lives, we talk about our business, we talk about whatever. And even like when we're, you're playing in, uh, in St. Louis and the ascension, you know, how emotional that stuff is. And I hate that, I guess it's a, it's a little bit of a thing of age, I guess. I don't know. I've always been crying at Hallmark commercials.

I can't stand myself. I'm like, why am I tearing up? It's just lassie for God's sake. But, um, yeah, I, they just did a great job. Strict did a great job, but, but John, we both know this comes down to one thing who is going to play better. Who's going to make putts. We're going to break this whole thing down. Some of the lines these guys took off the teeth, Bryce and DeChambeau. I mean, I don't, I mean, we can't even relate to it without being there, but, um, let's run a tip of the cap segment.

Uh, the tip of cap is brought to you by our buddies at Dean team of Kirkwood. Man, Colin, I need you. My daughter, Joe totaled that beautiful Volkswagen. You got us. Nobody got hurt.

That car is kaput three one four nine six six zero three zero three. And we're tipping our cap this week to captain Stricker is vice captains and the entire red, white and blue us team on the rider cup. It was fantastic. We're flying the red, white and blue right now. And what are we talking about this for a while? So thank you to Dean team of Kirkwood, specifically Colin and Brandy three one four nine six six zero three zero three.

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Hey, welcome back. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host, Jay Perley. He's with me, Brad Barnes-Mead.

He's taking great care of us here in ESPN Studios. We're headed to the front nine brought to you by the Ascension Charity Classic. Man, what a great event.

The city supported it in a huge way. Nick Ragon and Steve Spratt are busy getting the numbers, gathering the data. Cannot wait to relay that. And we'll get one of those guys, maybe both of those guys on the show and talk about how much money that event raised for charity. But we are headed to an interview. Our buddy, college teammate, Tom Randolph, 43-year veteran of television golf at NBC, a co-producer of NBC Golf.

And he was just at the Ryder Cup. Let's go right there. Well, here it comes. Oh my goodness. Oh, wow.

In your life have you seen anything like that? Tom Randolph is brought to you by Golden Tee. I'm sitting down this morning with my UCLA teammate and friend, Tom Randolph. Tom, thanks for joining me this morning.

Of course. Great to talk to you, Jay. So, Tom, you were a senior when I was a freshman at UCLA, and you were an All-American. And gosh, I can remember the very first round we played together.

But now you're still involved in the game. You've been working for NBC Sports. When did you start doing golf?

And tell us a little bit about your career. Well, I started in 19. I graduated from UCLA in 80 your freshman year. And I played a lot of golf and was still trying to play golf seriously. At the time, NBC was just doing 12 golf tournaments a year. And John Brody, who was a former MVP of the NFL in 1970 and was an avid golfer, actually beat TT Rodriguez and George Archer in a playoff at the LA Senior Open and won a senior tournament. We had played a lot of golf together. And he was working NBC's football and golf.

And he told the producer, you guys have all football people, but nobody in golf. And I think I have this guy that has a pretty sharp mind and should help you in the truck. So, I went right away spotting in the main truck. I was an econ major, so I didn't know anything about it. It was basically a 12 weekend.

There was no cable back there, but it was basically a 30 day a year job. So, I was still trying to play golf, but I've done every golf tournament for the start of my 41st year. Oh my gosh. And Tom, you bring up John Brody. First of all, what a cool guy, but maybe one of the best athletes that's ever been around.

Yeah, he's one. I mean, of course, Bo Jackson and Dion, of course, when people talk about all around athletes. But John, when he went to, he came from Oakland high, went to Stanford. They wanted him to play baseball and basketball.

And he ended up playing football and golf at Stanford. And he could basically play all the sports, but we also, we played backgammon against each other. We'd golf all day and try to beat each other up. And then we'd play backgammon against each other, any card game or anything. Tennis, we'd go out and do whatever. And so, we were both very competitive and got along great, even though he was 20 years older than me. But I catted for him when I was like 11 or 12. That's Sharon Heights.

So that's how I got to meet him. Sharon Heights is such a great golf course. So, Dolph, your years at NBC golf, I know you just came off the Ryder Cup at Whistling Straits, but talk a little bit about being in the production side of golf because most people have zero clue what it's like to be a producer. And the one thing that I know for sure about my short time with Fox is that golf is unlike the other sports because A, there's no timeouts. B, there's golf balls flying in every direction at all hours and all time of the broadcast. And you don't ever get any time off.

Yes, it's totally different. Even during the commercials, we're always taping shots and figuring out what we're going to do when we get out of the breaks. One of my big jobs is also to figure out when to go to commercial to miss the least amount of golf. You're always figuring out what shots we think are important to show and what not to.

So, it's basically organized chaos. We probably had 80 monitors during the Ryder Cup, so keeping track of all that. And then I have spotters in each group if I have a question like who's going to hit first or if they'll volunteer if somebody hit it in the water and we need to know something. We have every group tape probably about 20 tape machines.

There's a guy named Chris Maguire that runs our whole tape unit. So, they're also selling stuff or saying if something happened. But basically, when we're on a shot, we're getting ready and queuing up another shot to put it on. But it's different than, it's a football game, a producer to football game. Okay, you'll go to live action. The director will cut the camera, so whatever angles you're seeing for the live shot. And then the producer will be talking to the announcers and figuring out what replay can I get in before the next play.

Is it a hurry up offense? Will I put that in? You know, what you can do. And he has a final say over everything. In golf, you might say, I'm going to go to Colin Moore Cowell on the 12th hole. And so the director may have two or three cameras to pick out of there. And then you're always producers always saying, okay, then we're going to go to X tape machine or we're going to go to a little teacher or whatever we're going to put on there.

So it's different. There's Tommy Roy and I have produced together and we actually have a new director this year, Joe Martin. But the three of us kind of work together. So if I hear announcer say something about a swing that we needed, you know, see from behind, we will go there then. And, you know, I might say to the director, hey, take it from, you know, so and so angle.

So even though and the director might see somebody hitting where a producer would normally say to go and they'll say, Well, you sure you don't want to go there. So it's basically three of us working together. But it's, it's organized chaos. Dolph, it's what what else is really logistically difficult is that the thing is spread out over hundreds of acres.

I mean, you think about a football game, there's one ball, there's two teams in the the arena itself is an enclosed entity, right? The golf is all especially whistling straight. I mean, your pictures from up there were gorgeous. We use like three times as much cable on that course and we do an average golf. It was so it was so spread out.

It's beautiful. And you can have I mean, it's crazy the amount of different technology now to even that, that shot that Jordan getting almost fell down on the 17th hole, where we track that whole ball. The guy that's doing that tracking device is sitting in a strict COVID lockdown in New Zealand, he's sleeping in his office. And he's talking to a guy that in our tape area to, you know, he's giving him that shot to queue it up to follow. So people could see actually how high that Jordan actually hit that ball. So there's a lot going on.

Oh, my gosh, I'll say so. So Dolph, how do you how do you choose the shot? I mean, you have to have a really strong sense of the moment, and who's playing well and who's not playing well, because to be able to capture what you want to capture, it's not easy, is it? Well, I think the knowledge of actually, you know, playing golf and being in golf, my whole life helps, I've always had, you know, I had trouble just reading a book, I could have two conversations going on. And, you know, watching three different football games going on and playing cards at the same time.

So my mind kind of works a little different than most that I could, I could do that. I mean, I might have three or four people talking to me at the same time. And it's just learning how to hear what you want to hear. But it's kind of a lot of its instinct.

It's a lot of it doing it for such a long time. It's you know, knowing how fast everybody plays. You know, I write down always the distance between the first green to the second tee.

I have that on the notepad. So I know, okay, can I get a quick commercial in or can I, you know, get one or two shots before we're going to get to that tee shot. So there's, there's a lot of preparation. But, you know, with the live golf, you got to change all the time. And then we have people like Gary cope that will notice something on a swing. He had a great comparison that we did with Bob swinging so fast compared to Cantley swing at the, at the tour championship. So there's, you know, there's, it's, it's a real team effort.

We have, you know, three or 400 people at this last event. So as you know, when you work with Fox, you know what, dolphin, you guys have john wood and bones, Jim McKay and note of a gay, you guys have a lot of different perspectives from a lot of different voices. And I really think it's really coming together.

I love it. Well, that's good. Yeah, it's, it's, it's been a very, the public has really loved bones, just having a different perspective. And, you know, some, and he has been, I mean, he, he had to, he was very observant and would fill one and all those tournaments down the stretch. You know, he really, you know, he notices when people are speeding up or other, you know, he, he notices a lot of, of little things that that's given us a great new perspective.

You know, I've worked with Roger forever, Roger Maltby. I still think, you know, he's the best at it between the he's, he's really good. He is really good. And I thought it was interesting, Tom, when, you know, the little dust up that occurred when Rom hit it in the water on number five, and, and Rom's caddy kind of got a little mouthy with Jordan Spieth and everything. And I thought something was really struck me interesting about our US team this year is that we had more swagger, not disrespectful or anything, but we had more edge to us. And to listen to Jordan handle himself so well, and also said, you know, I didn't raise my voice, buddy, whatever he said, I just thought, man, he also, you know, stepped in there and made sure that the droplets taken at the right spot. Right, he handled that perfectly.

He really did. The whole team. It's a different the young guys. I mean, they're, I mean, they're so good.

Some of these guys at 2224. I mean, Cantley and more Kawa. I mean, I've never, you know, there's so much better than when we were 22 or 24. It's not even close. Oh, my gosh, it isn't.

And that's my next question, Tom. What do you think the difference is in this version of the Ryder Cup? Because I felt like there was a real turning point in us golf this this past weekend? Well, there's no doubt. I mean, well, first of all, the best players, besides ROM, the best players in the world, how the top 10 players are, are from the US, and they're young. And there's no scar tissue from all the record, but they are.

I mean, they're confident ready to win majors right out of college. I mean, it's amazing. And they're so I mean, that is tough as can months Cantley has been ridiculous. It's just, it's, it's actually really fun to watch.

And people are really worried how golf is going to go downhill after tiger. And these guys have really stepped it up the Americans to worse. It's a fun watch. You know, Tom, I find that most of them are really good humans as well. They're great players, but they're really good.

They're conscientious guys, and they really care. Tom, over all the years, are there can you just share a couple of I know you don't have a whole lot of time, but can you just share a couple of memories of things that stood out either great shots, I know you've seen so many of Tigers wins and so many of the things that he's done. Well, you guys covered the players championship forever the US Open for years and years. Johnny Miller, gosh, you got a whole laundry list of neat things to choose from. Well, Johnny was I mean, Johnny was great and growing up in Northern California like myself, he was always idle. He was the guy when I was 15 or 16. You know, he was the guy we all looked up to and he was winning 1011 tournaments during the year. And his call one of the best calls actually Paul Azar was on the ground at Oak Hill at the Ryder Cup and strange and Baldo were having a key mass down the stretch.

And, and Curtis hit it in 18. And Johnny goes right away, he goes, that's a group low. And I remember as it goes, I don't think so it's right at it. And Johnny goes, Well, we'll see. It came up short in the bank. And Nick won that match and end up losing it. And he came back, I can't believe how did he know that was a group low. And Johnny just said, Well, I could tell by the sound when he hit it. So I mean, it was, he did some crazy Johnny had, he really did some amazing things. As far as calling, but the best golf was Tiger at pebble. That was the best golf I ever seen. I went out there afterwards. And I mean, he beat everybody by 15.

And he never missed a putt, you know, under six feet. And I went out there after it was all over and looked at the greens. And they had the biggest spike marks I've ever seen. And you don't know.

And they were dead, half dead. And you don't know how anybody could make a four footer looking at. Oh, my gosh, I can remember that. I can remember when he he was up by a million and he hold about a sick five or six footer, because he didn't have a three putt that week. Did he, Tom? Yeah, he didn't have a boy didn't wanted to go bogey free that last round, too. Yeah, he didn't want to make a bogey. Yeah, and I remember Roger had made a great call on the sixth hole when he hit the shot up the hill from the rough crazy shot.

He ran up any rider just said this isn't a fair fight. Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. Well, this is but all the Ryder cups have been great. The first, you know, we did I've done in the last 15 of them since 91. And I think the most exciting was at the beginning was going over 93.

The bell freak is to see the European fans. We had eight of the last you know, eight of the last matches went to the last hole. So anyway, the Ryder cups have been exciting. Oh, my gosh, it's just such great game. It's just such a great, just such a great game.

Tom. Hey, I really appreciate your time. I really appreciate you jumping on and sharing some of the insights because no one knows what it's like in that truck. It's pretty wild. I'd still rather be playing though. You know, this was 1980 still we were playing though. All right, that's gonna do it for the back nine.

I mean, that's gonna do it for the front nine pearl. Quick takeaway from that interview. Oh, man, just the career he's had. And you know, we got to talk a little bit about Tom on some of the other details. What a unique individually he is. And I love when he said he can have three people talking at him at the same time and sorted out that is who that guy is. He was amazing.

The he would do fantastic feats that nobody would care about. But they were fantastic. Yeah, absolutely. All right. So that's gonna end the front nine. But don't go anywhere. Pearly and I are going to break down that interview and more Ryder Cup special on the back now.

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Thank you for having me. Hey, so Quincy Country Club is a real sleeper in the area. Congratulations on being the head golf professional there. And tell us what's going on with some Northern Illinois golf. Well, Quincy Country Club, you know, we're two hours north of the St. Louis area.

It's a club that's been established in 1898. We're kind of unique in the sense that we're all bent grass up here in the north. So even though we're in the transition zone, we still are able to have success with having the backgrass fairways, obviously teas and greens. Oh, my gosh, it makes for a real challenge for your superintendent, doesn't it? Because I mean, imagine trying to manage the green complex throughout the whole facility. Absolutely.

Anytime that you're dealing with a cool season grass that is probably two hours south of where it would thrive. They definitely have their hands full. And I can't imagine what it's like down in the St. Louis area with the courses that have the backgrass as well. Right. We know that St. Louis Country Club is one and Fox Run comes to mind another but so Gideon, talk to us a little bit about what our listeners might not know that you have going on that you're involved with. So I know you have your the Secretary of the Gateway PGA Board of Directors, and you're just involved in a lot of golf related things.

Yeah. So you know, you always love to give back to your section. But you know, the Quincy area is pretty rich in golf tradition. We've got quite a few good players that have come out of Quincy, da wybrang who played regular tour champions tour, we've have Luke Guthrie, kind of on the corn ferry tour, we got a couple kids who I think are starting to get ready to go to Q school that went through Quincy. So we're really rich in golf tradition. We enjoy playing golf up here as everybody does, but we've had great success. I've enjoyed my time working with the section and you know, obviously, stepping up and being elected as secretary. I've had a great time with that and look forward to serving even more. Well, we appreciate so one of the things that the spotlight I'm trying to do is is give folks an idea of someone like you who has these responsibilities as the head golf professional at Quincy Country Club, and there's also the secretary of our section of the board of directors. I mean, there's a lot that you guys you men and women do that goes kind of unnoticed behind the scenes, but I know you guys love the game and you're growing the game and so it's all worth it. Absolutely. I think the biggest thing is you're you're working on your structuring your your schedule to be able to attend meetings, phone calls, a lot of phone calls now that you're involved with, but it also comes down to having an amazing staff and I do have an amazing staff that allowed for me to head down to St. Louis multiple times to go to meetings or whatnot, and also having a board of directors at the club here who are behind me 100% in doing what we do for our section. Yeah, it's like anything that you do well, isn't it?

It kind of the term it takes a village, you really need a lot of support and a lot of people pushing and pulling the rope in the same direction. Absolutely. And you know, with partners like yourself and your show, I mean, we can't do it without you folks and our listeners and everybody else. So thank you to everybody who allows us to share our passion with you with them. This is Gideon Smith. He's a head golf professional at Quincy Country Club. He's also Secretary of the Gateway PGA Board of Directors. And this was the Gateway Spotlight. Gideon, thanks for joining me.

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That's one in the same. He was just there. He's producing that as well. He's just phenomenal. He's done what, 15 Ryder Cups and you know, Jay, it's such a cast of characters too, that he's working with.

I think they said there's 300 people on their team doing that Ryder Cup. I'm really glad you did this for the people kind of got a sense of what happens behind the scenes and it's craziness. There's miles and miles of wires. There's people running all over the place and him and a couple other guys are the ones that consolidate it and distill it down to what we get to see on TV. And he's just done a phenomenal job for all those years and it takes a very special individual.

A lot of people would go in that place and they would be alcoholics by the end of their first week. And Tommy is just, he thrives on that. You hear people say multitask. He's quadruple multitasking all of his life and that seems to be where his sweet spot is. Yeah, we talked about the difference in golf and the other sports. You know, golf, they had to run cable John over 300 acres. I think he said it was twice as much cable as he's ever used before. They had hundreds of hundreds of people and gosh, I forget how many cameras he said, John.

He mentioned how many cameras he had, but when you go to a football game, you go to a baseball game, it's all right there in the stadium. This thing, there's no, when there's a timeout, this thing is still being played. Tigers hitting a shot over at six. Mickelson could be hitting a shot over at 12.

Cantling could be hitting a putt over the first. Everything is going on at the same time. And it is just, he said it was just mass chaos. And that's pretty much, you know, what it's like when I had my short time with Fox, I was like, man, we're on the air. And this comes off as this really buttoned up show on television, but man, it's really not what's going on behind the scenes. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. And plus remember they just go to these golf courses every once in a while. It's not like they know them inside and out.

It's not like some stadium that's got all the plugs where you need them. So it's a, it's quite an undertaking and it's a lot of fun and really appreciate what they do and the other stations do to, to bring it to us. And it's so special because to your point, this was a special one. This was a breakout one.

Wasn't it for you for the U S no question set the tone made this set the tone hopefully for the next 15, 20 years. No question. And you know, what's interesting about a guy like Tom Randolph and it makes him so special. And I would put Mark Loomis in that same category, Tommy Roy, they know the game so well, John, and you have to, you have to understand the levity of the situation. You need to know what's going on with that player, how he's feeling, how he's thinking, what his tendencies are. Tom Randolph knows all of that stuff. Tommy Roy knows they know all of that stuff.

And in order to go, Nope, we're not going to break away here. Some, you know, you just get this sense over over time that something important, incredible, disastrous. It's all right here on this shot. And now the rhythm of the round, John it's, it's that, that experience that really shows in the broadcast. I agree.

I agree. I was, I got to work for Tom. I think I've worked one or two U S opens and four Ryder cups for them. And it was just fascinating to watch how they work very, very long days and a lot of fun. And man, they're passionate about what they do.

And you can tell that in the, in the broadcast. Tommy's a great guy. He's been a great friend for us for a long time and really a successful career. We're good for him.

Hopefully he has many more. Oh, absolutely. And that team's won 20 some odd Emmys. I mean, they're not flying under anybody's radar. They are there. They're doing what they do and they do it extremely well.

Yeah, for sure. Well, so let's talk about the players a little bit. How did, how about the way DJ first of all, the way he played, how about the way he drove the ball? Well, absolutely phenomenal. And that's a place where again, having played it with you, um, and I think TV did a good job, but it is so penal if you start missing fairways and then the wind starts blowing, it's a nano of a shot off.

You get the ball curve and a little bit the wrong way with the wind and it's going to move 40, 50, 60 yards. And he just did phenomenal. I love the fact that he was the oldest guy on the team. He was, he was kind of baffled by that. He's kind of like, he didn't want to believe it.

Even after they told him, you know, the way he does interviews, it's always kind of like, are you paying attention, uh, DJ or are we, are we okay here? And, uh, but when did he play, did he play and he leaves seem to think he had a great time and the number one point get her man. First guy since Larry Nelson, you get five points and he was the oldest guy. Was he the only guy that played five matches?

Yeah, for the U S yeah. Um, uh, I think Sergio may have, I don't know, but I got to tell you one of the huge differences for me. Look at the new players, the new players that the U S rolled out here. Colin Morikawa first time on the team.

What are the old one? Absolutely. How about Patrick Cantlay? First time on the team.

Tony Finau first time on in Cantlay went three Oh and one Tony Finau first time on the team, Xander Shafley first time on the team, Harris English first time on the team, Daniel Berger first time on the team, Scotty Scheffler first time on the team. Let me tell you something that Stricker did that flew under the radar that I thought was brilliant is a Scotty Scheffler pick somebody on this team had to pair up with Bryce and D Shambo and Scotty Scheffler was picked in part because of his ability to want to play with Bryson. And, and, and, and you know, they, they, well, it may have been, it may have been in part to do that, but man, he's two Oh and one.

And I'll tell you what, Jay, for a guy that hadn't been out there before, he just seemed cool as could be. And when he took Ram down in the singles matches, my gosh, what did he burn? He, for the first five or five or six, sir, it was like a shotgun blast hit Romney could never recover from that. Well, how could, I don't care how good you are.

How do you recover from that? This guy comes out, who's supposed to be low man in the totem pole and he's absolutely going out and firing it. And it's not like he's chipping in and you know, gunching it out of the crap.

He's just absolutely knocking the flag down. Yeah, it was, it was impressive. Daniel Berger had a great Ryder cup. He was two, one and Oh, I like that guy. He brings a lot of athleticism and a lot of oh gosh, just kind of let's go get this thing done sort of attitude. I really enjoyed watching him.

I'll tell you who I really, who is, who has played, this is going to be such a dumb statement. Patrick Cantlay is ridiculously on fire right now. And his star is rising all across the golf world. John, he just put it together. And I mean, between he and Shafley, we got paired together. They, they, they put their foot on the, on the gas pedal and never let go of it.

And the euros were backpedaling from the beginning. Well, the thing about shots are, excuse me, what Cantlay is, you know, career wise, he got off to a funky start with some crazy life things and some, some injury and some stuff like that. And so he's right at the ship. I love when he talks when they kind of say, why are you so calm or what are you doing out there? And he says, he's kind of in a meditative state and that's the way he looks. He's almost, it's almost kind of funny when he comes out and he's shaking a waving hand to the crowd in the first hole. And it's kind of like, he's just in this, in this zone and just like, you know, give me the first tee.

Let's get going. I just thought he was a blast to watch. And then he did kind of get into it after a while. All of a sudden, Patty Patty ice that doesn't show any emotion.

He started pumping up. And I don't think, I don't think you can stay out of the, I, again, I've been as a low man on the totem pole for NBC. I've been inside the ropes. And when those fans start going nuts, there's no way your heart doesn't start pumping in and you're just waiting for the Rocky music. It's so exciting.

No. And I thought it was pretty cool that tiger texts everybody and gave him some sort of inspirational texts. We had Michael Jordan there. We had a, Oh man, there were, there were a bunch of stars from around the, the globe on both sides of, of the fence. You know, Pearl, that's funny.

Isn't it fun to listen to like a Michael Jordan, who's kind of been through all of his, in his field, they showed how animated he was, whether it's makes and misses and issues, how intense he was. He's like, yeah, he wanted to grab stricter states. Don't let him go. Let him down.

Don't let him let down, you know, do a man go hard. Just pummel them into the ground. You know, the Jordan thing.

Don't give them an inch. Oh my gosh. I know. I know. And that's going to wrap up the back nine, but don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with the 19th hole.

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I just love the rawness. He's at the top of the heap as far as I'm concerned about human beings and laying it out there. He didn't play great for his standards. He had to know since that the tide was big and the tide was you know pretty much knocking the euros under.

But I loved what he said. I also talk a little bit about the Nicholas Jacqueline sportsmanship awards that were given out. Well McElroy definitely comported himself well and congratulations to Dustin Johnson and Sergio Garcia for winning that Nicholas Jacqueline award. It's basically an award on sportsmanship.

It's back when Jack told Jacqueline to pick it up and you know they just agreed to have a draw. You know these guys are competing from their cores and they're playing for their countries, their continents etc. And it's important to them. And what's interesting I think also as a golfer, they're in a position that other than every two years they're not in.

It's not comfortable for them at all. They might not be on their game at all but they played well enough maybe a year ago to get on the team. So they're playing in all these conditions that they're not used to day in day out and then the world's watching them.

So when you look at all that type of stuff to keep them off balance and they still handle themselves well. I thought Sergio handled himself very well throughout the whole thing. He played well and he handled himself well. And good for D.J. and Sergio for you know having that kind of an attitude to keep the quality of the Ryder Cup moving forward.

You know John it can't go unsaid either at least on this show about, you mentioned it, this is a game changer in my mind. A huge stepping off, jumping off point for U.S. golf. I just, the youth being served, the quality of play. People have asked me I don't know how many times you know are you concerned at all about the state of the game in the post Tiger era. Well I mean take a look. Tiger wasn't there. Look at what you know we experience.

Great players, exciting times. You know part of what gets missed as well as NBC does covering it. You know until you're standing which is why everybody needs to go by and see whistling straight somehow. Even in a tournament or go play the darn thing. Jay what, explain even as a great player what it is to stand up on the 17th tee and try to hit that shot. That is such, that visually is every bit as hard as 17 at pebble, the approach shot, hitting it into the second if you're trying to go for it and two on the 18th at pebble. It's just remarkably difficult and it is so penal if you hit the wrong shot.

And these guys, they're flagging it. They're just hitting unbelievable shots. What's his name? How about Morikawa's shot? He almost holed it.

Made two at 17. Yep. It's unbelievable the shots these guys are hitting.

These shots are just, you're looking and all you can see is a pin that looks like it's hanging out over the water and they're just flagging it. But I'm with you, I think as much talk as there was about oh you know the Americans can't win this kind of thing. You really felt the turn of the tide and I felt it even early on in this event and then when they kept the pedal to the metal it was just spectacular. And here we are with DJ being the oldest guy and he played all matches and won all matches.

So talking about a young team, just spectacular. That's going to wrap up another show. Meat, thanks for hooking us up. Whatever you're doing over there, keep doing it pearly. Wherever you are, we'll see you next week. This is golf with Jay Delsing. Hit em straight St. Louis.