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Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing.

Out there breaking leads and prepping the world to get ready for the show. Well that's just beautiful. We formatted the show like a round of golf. This first segment is called the On The Range segment as you heard and it's brought to you by the Gateway PGA. There's over 300 men and women in our Gateway section and they are shutting it down a little bit this time of year. The weather's changing and man they've worked their butts off, their tails off just trying to make our golf experience better and so we really appreciate them. Pearl, social media, is Facebook still avoiding your calls?

Well it's meta now Jay, get your terminology straight, but it's just fine. They're a little bit preoccupied with the rest of the world but I'm sure I'll be getting a call back from Mark any day. All right that's cool, good to know. So we're in good stead with our social media guru, Pearlie, and where we know if you guys need anything for your home inside or outside the people to call are Bob and Kathy Donahue at Donahue Painting and Refinishing 314-805-2132.

Check out their website, check out them, call them. Kathy Donahue, these guys are great people so they are there to help. All right so Pearl, this show. Biggest news in golf probably in the last six weeks. Tiger released the video.

Yeah I know you checked it out. I gotta tell you honestly, I was excited to see it. I was excited to see him swing.

There's no way you can't be excited to see him swing and what I liked was the conversation which we should continue on right now. Can he win? Will he win? When will he win? Uh yes, yes and probably once he starts playing again after a little while and gets, you know, one of the things that's probably going to be as challenging as anything, Pearl, is going to be his stamina because he's got to walk, you know.

Absolutely, I wanted to point that out and we've talked about it before. Most folks don't realize what it takes to play, you know, tournament after tournament even when you're just playing a couple in a row type of stuff. Practice rounds, walking, how many miles you walking in during a round of a golf?

Somewhere between eight and ten depending on the course. So you're doing that. And how crooked I'm in my tee shot, you know, because it's a lot less if you hit it straight. I wasn't gonna, I wasn't gonna bring that out. Well it's also harder when you're walking through the heather and the trees down the middle.

Exactly, exactly. Sometimes that pine straw is slippery. You know what, I don't get that bag lined up just right. You could go down anywhere, you could go down. Oh man, I remember one time, you know, Pearly's like, Pearly walks and he's got like a gear. I can walk probably faster than anybody else on tour. Pearly can lap all of us. He's like a hound dog on a bone.

He's got his, he's got his like a little forward tilt and man, a guy could just haul ass. And I can remember one of the things that is just such a pet peeve when you're playing on the tours, you're following off, you hit it in the woods, and you're walking that way and the marshal looks at you and he goes, oh you're gonna hate this. And I'm like, oh, so I look over, I look over at John one time and he won't even, he won't even answer me. I'm like, it's that bad, huh? And he's like, yeah, we got nothing over here. But, oh my gosh. But yeah, so that is, that's a big deal. And his golf swing still looks so, he didn't have a lot of speed and he wasn't, you know, going at it like he would in a tournament more than likely, but it was really good to see him back.

What have you heard, Jay? Any specifics or I'm sure that you keep it at very close to the vest as far as the right leg that would have the sleeve on it. And anybody can go out and Google Tiger Woods, comeback swing, whatever, and it'll pop up. But he's got a black sleeve that he's got on his right leg. I'm not sure if that's what made the leg look even more atrophied or maybe it's, maybe it's in that bad of shape at this point. And you know, who knows to what level it can recover. I'm sure if it can recover, it will.

But so he'll just have to learn to play a little bit different game, but he's done that with other wins, hasn't he? Oh my gosh, Pearl. It reminds me of, you know, in a weird kind of serendipitous thing, our dads passed away on the same day. And I can remember I was talking to John Cook and Mark O'Meara and they were, you know, they were sending their condolences and stuff. And we were up in Wingfoot playing in the US Open in 2008.

And that was Tiger's first event back since his dad died. And they said, you should just, you know, write him a note, put it in his locker, you know, until I said, really? And they said, yeah, he'd be cool.

And he'd, you know, he'd appreciate that. He never checked his locker the whole week. He never even went into the locker room that whole week, I guess, at Wingfoot. And he missed the cut and was out of there in a heartbeat.

So it's interesting because then he comes back, Pearl, the first win after his dad died was the British Open that year. And he'll hit one driver the entire week, one driver. And I said to myself, if this guy didn't have to deal with the ego of, you know, how far he can hit it, and maybe ego's the wrong word, Pearl, but just that temptation. Because the farther you get away from the putter, the wilder he hits it, right? But if he's got that ball on the ground, you know, with a two iron or something and the stingers and all that, really super, super tough to beat. Same with his three wood. So I could envision him rebooting his entire mentality and figuring out another way.

Well, we've talked about this. His head is the best part of his game. And his pitching and putting is the best physical part of the game. So at the end of the day, if he's lost, I don't know what it will be, five, 10, 15 miles an hour speed, I personally don't know how much it's going to matter. Now, can you be dominant? Well, not if you're not hitting it a little bit further and things like that. But I don't think dominance is what, well, who knows?

He might be thinking about that knowing the way you understand the way he thinks. But I just think the fact that he can be competitive, I think absolutely. I think as we know, he can be competitive on one leg for crying out loud.

So what's the difference here? Because of his pitching, his chipping, and his mental approach, he's going to be in the game. And is that going to make this next year exciting or what? Oh my gosh.

I mean, think about it. So Augusta is how far off? Six months off? Five in April. It's April. So it's, oh man. Yeah. So it's about five months, almost six months off. It's still another half a year. I mean, I guarantee you that circle on his calendar.

There is no way in hell it's not. Well, and big picture stuff that you and I talk about all the time. The other thing is I can remember when this accident happened and, you know, how sad it was. And I had made the statements and I'll make it again that I think the saddest part of the whole accident would be if he could never play with his son, Charlie, again. It was so fun to see them playing that father-son.

You could see the camaraderie, the connection that they have. So at least that's behind him. So as far as I'm concerned, whether the guy wins or not or ever plays another round on the tour, another hole on the tour, I think, you know, he's going to be able to play with his son, his son play with him. And he looked pretty dang healthy the rest of it. So hopefully he works on some good decisions and not having some bad breaks.

And we get to see a lot of him in the next year to come. Yeah, and I can imagine he's playing with his son and his son's asking for shots. He's probably like, hell no, let's go.

This thing is on. Well, if he's half as competitive with his son as anybody else, which my guess is he would, I know my father no matter what never wanted me to beat him at anything. And that's part of the whole deal, I think. So I'm sure they've got some fun games there.

I know Tiger when he played with his son and that father's son himself, he said, yeah, Charlie can chirp with the best of them. So anyway, good news there. Great news there. And, you know, to be continued, I guess. Yeah, no doubt about it.

It's amazing. You know, John, when you start thinking about that Q rating and what the tour put together for that, I think it's kind of that ridiculous $40 million pot for the most relevant social media guys. How do you think this just skewed the one for next year? I mean, yeah, Tiger sticks his head out the window. He's got to get more views and more likes and more whatever than reactions. And, you know, all the other guys put together, not even close, not even close. No, not even close. Well, that's going to wrap up the front nine, but the tip of the cap segment, the tip of the cap is brought to you by the Dean team of Kirkwood.

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He's taking good care of us here at the ESPN Studios, and we are headed to the front nine. It's brought to you by the Ascension Charity Classic. Man, our date's not out yet. I know what it is. I'm not allowed to say.

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Year twos could be better than year one. All right, Pearl, I got to end the break. We are talking. Let's give this, what Tiger Woods is going through, give it some context. Give the listeners an idea of a couple of other things they can kind of compare this to.

What's up? Well, I mean, one that's the most obvious that just popped in the head is Ben Hogan with his car accident. And never going to play again.

Can't walk, can't swing, can't do whatever. And obviously, you know, made history after the after the accident. So, you know, again, it's not fair to compare because the severity of the severity of the injuries, et cetera, et cetera.

But it wouldn't overly surprise me if something similar. I mean, obviously Tiger, Tiger's life and Tiger's career is more than book worthy and movie worthy and everything else. And, you know, here we go again. You know, when you think about these sort of guys, the Ben Hogan, the Tiger Woods of the world, these guys that have come back from these, you know, almost life threatening injuries, certainly life threatening situations. They thought Hogan, you know, and head on collision was dead. There's something about those challenges and those things that those guys put goals and set things in their mind, and they go after them with such relentless energy and tireless effort that it's pretty special. Well, you just wonder when Tiger's accomplished everything, Hogan accomplished pretty much everything. You know, what's going to motivate them?

You know, the last thing in the world you would wish on either one of those guys was the accidents that they had, but it almost resets themselves, gave them another sense of purpose, another all that. And I don't know if that's too Hollywood and cornball, but that's something that's run through my head with the Tiger thing is, and again, how far can I come back? What can I do from here?

How can I beat the odds? How can I do, you know, you and I have joked about it because, but also it's true. How many times have we counted this guy out?

At least half a dozen times for me through the years, anywhere from when he first came on, et cetera, et cetera. And so, yeah, you know, hopefully that's, let's put it this way. Hopefully that's what it's done for him is given him another sense of purpose, another charge, another, another mountain to climb. And you know, who knows who, who absolutely knows.

All right. So, so Pearl over in Dubai, a little man named Colin Morakawa, just go ahead, becomes the first American rewriting more of the record books, becomes the first American to win the race to Dubai, the season long series over there. Rory has a really brutal Sunday and kind of implodes, kind of tears his shirt off his body, which was kind of an odd thing.

I don't know if you saw that, but I was like, what? And but the first American to do this, you know, does this guy get his due? I mean, I see pictures of him wheeling his luggage through an airport. Nobody knows who he is. He's won two majors in his first two years on the PGA tour. He's just, you know, solid as can be. I'll go ahead and say this. He's the best iron player.

I think I've seen since tiger. Well, I don't know if he gets his due. I think a lot of it has to do with the, the side stories with a lot of these guys.

And he seems to be just solid low key goes about his business. So there's no extra fanfare. I think you keep winning like he's winning. And by the way, I didn't know he was the first American to win, win that. That's, that's not, not the tournament you're talking about the whole race. Yeah. Because he won the British open this year. You know, he did, yeah, he accumulated more points than anyone else.

That's awesome. But anyway, he, he's obviously spectacular. He's got such a mentality. And when I hear you guys like you, uh, aging around the tube, the other guys on, on TV, everybody that seems to be around him just says his iron game.

And it obviously is good on TV. I'll tell you, some of the iron shots he hit coming down the rider cup this year were just unbelievable. That 17th hole for the same thing. You just that's, that's a place where you, you have to have unbelievable confidence and have an unbelievable swing on top of it to even hit the shots that those guys are hitting. And he's just sitting there acting like it's a little knocked down nine iron. And I think they were hitting fours and five irons for crying out loud.

I would have been hitting three wood, but it's, uh, it's awesome. So I don't know, Jay, maybe the major fans there is not going to be there until he wins a couple more times. But, um, I, the golf world knows who he is.

Yeah, they sure do. I got it. I got a really cool announcement.

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It's a little bit bigger than your cell phone and it checks, spin rates, launch angles, and it just measures it's portable. It's accurate. And now it's super affordable, um, between, uh, November 24th and December 1st, they're calling it their black Friday sale, $150 off the price. And it's 4 99. So I've got one of these things. It is spectacular. You set this up behind you when you swing and measures and shows you the flight of the ball. It shows you the spin, how much curve it's got on it.

It is really super cool. They also now have a version of this. That's morphed into the major league baseball and all 30 MLB teams are using it with their pitchers and their spin rates. They're also using it with the batters and their launch angles. So, you know, guys are trying to launch this thing high so they can hit all these home runs. So Rapsodo guys, you got to check this out. Uh, you got to go to Rapsodo.com, Rapsodo golf, and check out this little device.

It is super, super cool. And when you start thinking about it, John, we have been trying to encourage people. Don't sit on the couch all year, quit drinking another beer, go hit some balls, go to the gym, do something that'll help you physically. Well, Pearl, you can go and some, I don't know how many people have said to me, Delsing, I can't stand practicing in the mat because I can't see where the ball goes. Well, guess what?

You don't have that excuse. Now you get this Rapsodo and you make this swing. The ball gets stuck in the net for sure.

But you turn back to the screen and chase your shot. It's very cool. This thing sounds absolutely fantastic. Hey meat, have you got one of these or is it just Jay? Yeah, I haven't gotten one yet. I'm still waiting on my delivery for mine. You know, I've been traveling a lot, but I haven't seen one either.

So I don't, I don't know how we can really talk about it or promote it. If we were not, I think the sniper guy wasn't the sniper golf ball guy supposed to hook you guys. Oh yeah. He hooked me. Yeah. Oh, he booked me up. Oh, don't tell.

Oh, that was last year or two. That's a good point. You guys, I don't have any golf balls to use the Rapsodo with anyway.

So what the heck's the difference Pearl? That's where you start working on your mental game a little bit. You just start treating visualize, visualize them out there and go, oh man, that felt so good. Can the Rapsodo track my mental shots? If you let it. I don't think there's anything capable of that. No, we don't want to even talk about that.

The screen will go black. Oh boy. I appreciate you guys have my back. I'm glad that while I'm gone everything is taken care of. Exactly. When you're not on Pearl, we are not, we are missing you and it is sweet pearly this and that.

Where is he? Yeah. We've had enough time to get used to it. So, you know.

Shot at pearly. Anyway, the Rapsodo is cool stuff and you got to check it out. And these guys are St. Louis company. They're, they're doing great stuff across a bunch of different, the major sports leagues and teams. So check out that Rapsodo. That's going to wrap up the front nine.

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So call them at 314-647-8054 or visit them at ProAmGolfUSA.com. All right, so Pearl, we talked about the Rapsodo. That was kind of like a cool continuation of some of the newer things that have come into the game from the statistical categories to the metrics to all the different fashion stuff we talked about and the gear stuff we talked about.

Now I want to talk about something we probably should talk more about but we don't. Let's talk about tracks. Good golf courses, bad golf courses. We've got a list of some hidden gems that are cool. One of my favorite courses is on that list of hidden gems. But John, one of the things that is so cool about what happened to us, you had a year of college under your belt at University of Florida while I was still in high school, but then going out to California and playing the golf courses that we played at UCLA on a weekly revolving basis were just incredible.

We're just incredible. First of all, Bellaire Country Club, which we got to play on Mondays and Fridays, is still in my top five fun courses to play, best courses to play, or around the globe. Well, how can it be? I don't know if you've played it.

I haven't played it since all the alterations to it, which I heard is still fantastic. It's an absolute blast and I think just from my perspective as we get into this conversation, one thing to just share with folks that haven't traveled a lot and done it, there are so many great golf courses in the world. It's scary. St. Louis is loaded with them. Chicago is actually loaded with them. New York is loaded with them.

LA loaded with them. So it's easy to get caught up in the big branded names and that kind of thing, but man, there are so many great golf courses and plenty of them are as good or better than the ones that are called out to be the best. Wouldn't you agree?

Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, there's stuff all around that I can just remember, John, the first time I played Bellaire, I was thinking, how am I going to do this? You know, those elevated tees, those small greens, the greens were rolling at like a 12 or 13 back in the day. And it was, it was brutal. But then we got to go practice over at LA North. You know, we played Brentwood. We played Riviera on Thursday. I mean, how about playing Riviera? Remember the first time you saw the Cucuilla Grass?

I'm like, what is this stuff? The ball just would not roll through it. To just go from Bellaire to Riviera, which isn't very far to LA North, which isn't very far from either one of those. There's a great example on three very different golf courses, but three very challenging golf courses, three courses that you couldn't play enough to get tired of them. It was just absolutely fantastic. And Riviera could get a little sketchy from the seasonality of conditioning, but the other two, at least when I played them, were good to superb. Just, just fantastic places. And Bellaire was such a treat in so many ways to us.

Yeah. And then Pearl, going up and down the coast of California in the vans, playing in tournaments and things like that, going to San Diego, playing Torrey Pines for the first time, going up to Santa Barbara, playing Sandpiper, that Sandpiper should be on that list of courses that nobody's heard of. It's a public facility. It's on the coast and it's a blast to play.

It is really, really a good course. Well, the other thing about Sandpiper more so than the others you mentioned, obviously Torrey can get similar, but Sandpiper, depending on the wind, could absolutely beat you to death. And, and where you think I can never play golf again, or if the conditions are decent, I can remember I played the tournament there. I went out the first day and the winds were favorable, whatever that meant at the time. I don't remember, but I, you know, when it kind of breezed around a couple under, like no big deal, get out the next day and I'm playing kind of late afternoon and the wind's blowing 20, 30 miles an hour, apparently in the wrong direction.

I don't care how well I played. I wasn't going to break 75, 76, wasn't going to happen. And it's, and that can happen a lot out there too, but that was just a gorgeous, gorgeous place. We'll keep on going up the coast. So what's up the coast from there? Yeah, no, so I can remember, well, obviously you got Pebble, but up in Pebble you've got San Francisco Golf, which is another Alistair McKenzie.

John, one of the, we'll just go ahead and talk about it now. One of my favorite hidden gems I tell people all the time is Pasa Tiempo. Remember we played the Far West Intercollegiate up there every year and that golf course was just unbelievable. The 18th holes of par three. And that, that was such a really fun golf course to play. Then going up into Oregon and we played some of those courses. The fairways were like bowling alleys with pine trees lined up, which I had a little bit of a struggle with.

Well, wait a second though. More courses around San Francisco, Lake Merced, Olympic club, San Francisco club. I mean, uh, and then before that, uh, backing up even further, more down in the peninsula, Fort Orge, Fort Orge bayonet course. I'm not sure.

I think it was the bayonet. I know they've got a couple there. There's there's the one golf course there. There's virtually no OB or water.

None of that has already type of stuff yet. It's one of the hardest golf courses you're ever going to play the same thing again. You might get a little bit of breeze. The air is so heavy down there.

The ball doesn't go anywhere. And I remember the one year, I think I was playing the year that there was the earthquake and during the tour qualifying and it shook the balls off the green. So if it wasn't hard enough just to play the golf course, uh, we were dealing, we were dealing with that before they cut the trees back. Remember when the trees, the trees were low. And if you hit a ball that ran more than eight yards into the rough, you were taken, you were pitching out cause you're underneath a 40 foot pine tree with a low lane, low, uh, low line limbs.

Well, I think before they even did it to the degree that you and I played it, I want to say it was Craig Stadler had the record there at 73. And again, the reason was it's because of the rough and the pine trees that came down to the ground. I mean, you're, you're just dropping out, you know, uh, unless you've kneeled on a towel and that's another story. But, uh, right. But I mean, you just think about the different golf courses. I can remember, John, when I went to, uh, play in the Northeast amateurs or other coast. Now we go over to New York, Westchester County, that, uh, is, is a phenomenal, maybe my favorite place to go, but we were in Rhode Island and I played one of Moisa and the par was 69 on this course. And I'll never forget.

I got to play with the great Bobby or, and it was just such a cool round of golf and the golf course was just fantastic. Old school. I'd never heard of it.

Who had heard of it. And, um, you get you, there's stuff like that all over the place, John. And then, um, you could go into, and you can say this about the Monterey peninsula too. You could go out into the Monterey peninsula.

You could go into Westchester County, you could go into Chicago and you could go for three weeks. Guys play a different course every day. 95% of these courses you've never heard of and go, Oh hell, this one's better than the one I played last time.

You could go to Chicago, play Chicago golf in North shore and Skokie and all of these great places. And the funny thing is John, you go back through the history of the golf history of golf. A lot of these tracks have hosted major championships.

Yep. It's just unbelievable. They're just a name game and a branding that goes on these days, but it's fun that there's that many great golf courses that I'm not sure G I haven't had the exposure on the East coast like you have, but is there, is there another city in the country that has more good golf courses than Chicago?

Oh boy. Well, Chicago is such a big city. I mean, if you wanted to say New York city would be, would rival it because you'd, you'd get Westchester County up there because Westchester County involves, which is just on the other, uh, Baltimore, uh, upper and lower, uh, just on the other side in New Jersey. But it's literally, you know, 20 minute ride, but you have, um, wing foot, which is East and West, which in both core courses have held a major championship on, uh, you get Quaker Ridge right across the street that you get the, um, Westchester country club, which is, um, got 36 holes on it. You've got, um, canoe Brook. You've got century old Oak places.

No one's ever heard of you go on. There's just massively huge, beautiful trees and just fun, awesome golf experiences. It's, uh, that's just, it's, it's on. I Chicago special though, to me, John, with that, it's really special. You got Chicago golf, which is one of the best courses you'll ever play that no one's ever talks about because it's, I've never played it. I've heard of it, but I haven't played it.

I have played Bob the link with your brother-in-law and, uh, and Butler J ranks in the upper, certainly top 10 for me, maybe top five for me, uh, of, of all time. Just again, straight forward, great golf courses. Uh, at least my experience there, that's the experience I had. It was just, it was just a blast. You, if you hit a good shot, you got rewarded.

And if you didn't, it just beat you to death. Pearl, you played Augusta and I haven't give us a little love on that. Well, Augusta was phenomenal, obviously.

And there's another example. It's got the history. So, I mean, it's hard to play Augusta without having the history right.

Without remembering all the great shots that you've seen. I played Sage Valley the day before, which is just outside Augusta. And the story goes, a gentleman built it that couldn't get on Augusta, which apparently isn't the true story, but he built his own course and it's absolutely spectacular. I mean, it, it rivals anything, but the thing you can't be with Augusta and it is a wonderful golf course. It's a great golf course. It has a great rhythm for golf tournaments.

Um, but again, you're, you're on hollow ground. So it's hard not to put it in the one or two, uh, you know, top category ever. Um, yeah, every shot out there was, was fun and beautiful and historic. Um, yeah.

Hard not to gush about that place for sure. All right. So Pearl, as we wrap up this segment, what is your favorite course you've ever played?

You go first. Pebble. Yeah.

I was going to say, I don't know. There's something about Pebble because they change so dramatically when the wind blows and it doesn't blow and it'll blow half the time and it'll, it's just, there's just something about, and I, and I think you hit the nail on the head. It's the, it's the history. It's the, it's the things that have happened there before. It's Jack hitting the flagstick with his one iron on 17.

It's all those sorts of things. I don't think I would see because the, the water, the ocean holds at pebble, obviously, particularly coming down the pipe, 16 green and seven, excuse me, 17 green and 18, 18 hole. I don't know how there's anything better than that. It gives me a little bit of a emotion. Just thinking about that and a couple of fond memories that I've had, but just, just playing it, standing out there, like you said, with remembering some of the other great shots and how gorgeous it is.

And Jay, I played a couple one time. We didn't see the ocean all day. That's how foggy it was. And I played, I, I played, I caddied for you when you had to hit, no matter which way you shaped the ball, if you didn't start at 20 yards minimum into the ocean, it was going to go out about to the right. So, you know, to your point, that's where it might be hard for me to say if it's my favorite course, because it's different every single time you walk out there, except for the beauty, unless the fog just completely rolls in. So, John, can you quickly compare and contrast what you've felt being at Pebble compared to what you felt being at Augusta? In terms of like the history and, you know, cause there's that energy, right? There's that vibe, that feeling like, oh man.

I would say, I would say they both had it. And so I don't think I can say different. I also, you know, if you compare, especially Augusta Nationals Clubhouse, you know, you're not going to compare that to anything today because everything today is built, you know, like Taj Mahal and the beauty of Augusta National is the history, the fact that the clubhouse, and sorry for my history, you know, hasn't changed for a hundred years or whatever the heck it is. They just keep painting it white and green, yet it's just, everything's just kind of perfect about it. Same with Pebble. Pebble is beautiful, but in general, it's not the Taj Mahal. It's just, it's just the tradition behind it. And it's still, it's more so than the Masters and Augusta National, but I think that's where they compare is just such great history through the years.

You and I growing up watching the events, it's hard to be involved with either one of those places and not just have all kinds of emotion. That's wow. That's how we're wrapping up the back nine.

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Boy, all right, Pearl, pop the Ultra and let's take a look at this. We have found an article that talks about the 20 greatest courses that you never heard of. Well, and I think to reiterate from our last segment, Jay, beauty is in the eye of the beholder as well on this kind of stuff.

And then the different conditions in the history that these places have say a lot about it. But I'm going to just kind of rapid fire them at you and then let's talk about if either one of us or both of us have played it before. Seminole, what do you know? Oh, yeah, I played Seminole a half a dozen times. It's great. You could drive by the entrance of Seminole. That's what I love about it.

It's so understated. You can drive by the entrance of Seminole a hundred times and never know it's there. And they bought some extra property. I've heard they lengthened the 18th hole. They had that match with Ricky Fowler and DJ.

All the tailor-made guys got together and raised a bunch of money. Yeah, Seminole's just awesome. What stood out about the golf course that you liked or didn't like, Jay?

You know what, John? If the wind doesn't blow, it's not overly tough. It's certainly not long. It's more... Well, that's the golf courses that are built for the wind. Pebble, like we talked about, the English courses, something like that. If the wind doesn't blow, that's half or more of the defenses.

So you're going to get a very different experience. Okay, Seminole, next one. Bally... I'm not even going to know how to say this. Bally Neal?

Bally Neal. I played it. It's in... You fly into Denver and you drive two and a half hours to this place. And you feel like you've just gone ahead and just bought the farm out there.

You can't see anything. It has got on-site dorms. And I shouldn't call them dorms. My gosh, they're nice, really super nice cottages. The golf course is a beast. It's huge. It's a long, tough walk up and down.

The terrain is, oh man, brutal. But the caddies were fantastic. I did some entertaining out there. It was just fantastic.

I just loved it. Now, is that attached with Sandhills, Jay? Or is that two different things? No, nope. Two different... Sandhills is in Nebraska. This is outside of Denver. You got it.

Okay, next one. This is Sand Valley, the sandbox. So I've heard about this. I've not seen it.

It's relatively new. It's in Wisconsin, I think, somewhere, Pearl. And it's in northern central Wisconsin. I've been there with a friend and it is spectacular.

Same thing. You're driving up to it. You go like, what is this? And then there's a couple of sand dunes with some grass sticking out of the sand.

And you're thinking, well, whatever. Then you come up in these buildings that are clearly nice, but not overly stand out very much, which is their purpose to make them hide into the background. Then you walk through the clubhouse area, grab a beer, sit in the back of the patio, and you're looking over like a kingdom, a golf kingdom, and watching people play golf. They've got their caddies, a couple other guys smoking a cigar, having another beer on the back in front of the fireplaces.

Same type of thing. If you're any kind of a golf nut at all, your golf juice has just come alive. And you're like, I got to go do this. Great place. And again, very much. We played a couple of really good golf courses right near it and drive 20 minutes into this place and definitely want to go there. But as our argument was earlier in the show, great golf courses right around it that nobody's heard about.

Yeah, absolutely. Next one here, one of the best golf courses in France. So I'm definitely not going to say this one, Les Bordeaux.

Yeah, Les Bordeaux. I've never heard of it. I've actually never hit a golf ball in France. I've actually never been to France. I've hit a golf ball in France.

I've played a couple of times and it was fantastic playing in France, but I did not play this golf course. I did play some good ones, but as I can't pronounce this one, I can't remember the other one. So let's move on to the next one.

Let's do it. Passo Tiampo. You already talked about that a little bit. Hey, one thing I want to remember about Passo Tiampo, Jay, isn't that our first experience and isn't that the first golf tournament that ESPN ever covered? Yeah, it is. I think it was. I think it was. It was like 1970, no, 1980, I think. Wasn't it Pearl or 81? Is 80 or 81, I think.

Yeah, something in that ballpark. And so, yeah, I can remember you got to walk again. You got to get the golf bag in line. Otherwise, you have it hanging off your hip.

It's going to catch onto a tree. Oh, there's no doubt. John, we didn't even mention Cypress Point, which is one of my favorites that we played. All the other bad-ass courses up in the Monterey Peninsula. Ah, just terrific.

Just love it. Well, that's one thing that we do want to mention because I forgot it. When you said best golf courses, ask me the best course earlier in the show. All that was going to my head, Jay, was 15 and 16 at Cypress Point. The back-to-back par threes, I believe.

Correct if I have that right? 100%. And the 15 is only 150 yards with the most diabolical little green. And then you get the 16 and the wind's blowing any sort of... You just can't breathe on that tee.

It's unbelievable. That 15 and 16 were absolutely spectacular. And I loved the short hole because I could play it. And the older one, the other one was great, but I knew I couldn't play it.

That's why I like the short one better. But it was absolutely spectacular talking about being on the water. You're on the water. You're over the water. You're in the water.

It was the best. That's a tough one to get on, though. So that's a little unfair to share on some levels. Okay. This one is in the Norwegian Islands. Lofoten. Lofoten Link. So we're going to have to do a bucket list to get the Lofoten and Link someday, Jay. But it looks absolutely spectacular.

So something we might want to do. Another one here, and this is in the great state of Michigan, which I played some courses there this last fall. But I need to go play a lot more because there's a great one. Crystal Downs. Any connection with that one, Jay?

I know it's done by a gentleman named Perry Maxwell, who's got his name associated to a lot of really great tracks. I have not played Crystal Downs. I've had opportunities.

I just could not make them work schedule-wise. But I heard spectacular. Just really a funky, angular type golf course with a lot of hills rolling left and right, make it really challenging to kind of keep your ball in play.

For sure. And again, another place where you could probably go up and play for two or three straight weeks, Northern Michigan, and not run into anything other than an excellent golf course. Another one here, which we mentioned earlier, Prairie Dunes. I think, did we mention Prairie Dunes?

Well, I don't know if we did or not. But I think it's in Hutchinson, Kansas. And I think it's also a Maxwell course. And it's just beautiful. And it is very much a wind-designed track. Because the wind blows out there every single day.

Every single day. Ellerston. Ellerston, I have never heard of. Okay, that's why. Because it's in Sydney, Australia. So we don't know that one. We were down there. We played a couple courses down in that area.

Yeah, we did. Sleepy Hollow. Sleepy Hollow. Man, I do not know Sleepy Hollow. I know where it is. I think it's out in the Long Island area up in New York somewhere, Pearl. That's about all I know.

It might be... I don't know who designed it. One of the great old architects designed Sleepy Hollow. CB McDonald. CB McDonald is the same guy that designed St. Louis Country Club here in town. It's my favorite course in town. It's a McDonald course. It's great.

I love it. I have never played Sleepy Hollow, though. And you're right. It's up in the area. And it gets hidden and overshadowed by the Shinnecox of the area. Friar's Head and other great... National Maidstone.

All those great tracks out there, yep. Just another gem of a place. Okay, here we go. I shouldn't have taken this because I don't know how to pronounce these things. This one is Oopie Match Club.

O-H-O-O-P-E-E. You would remember if you played this one just by the name. Yeah, I have no idea about it. I don't know where it is.

I don't know who did it. It sounds like it's a newer course is what I'll guess. You know, built in the last 15 years or so. Yeah, up in Canada. That makes some sense. Oh no, this is Cavit Links.

You ever played Cavit Links? Oh yeah, that's beautiful. That's up in... I think it's in Prince Edward Island.

I think it's the guy that was... Timmy Horton's partner, I think, is the guy that has the money behind this. It's just spectacular. It's got a landing strip up there.

It is God's country. It's beautiful. That's the place I want to go play, is out in Eastern Canada.

I haven't. I played the Canadian tour multiple times. I played quite a bit in Canada. I definitely have an attraction to the PEI, that whole Newfoundland area, etc. I love to travel all that.

I love the water and everything. Jay, is Cavit Links, is that associated with the group? I thought they were called the Devil's Pulpit. The guys that came up with the Rubik's Cube. I don't think so.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so. This is going to wrap up another show. Come back next week for more golf with Jay Delsing and Pearly. End up straight, Jay Lewis.