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October 9, 2023 1:00 am

We chat with Vance Crowe founder of Legacy Interviews and Professional Golfer Chris Naegel-Sunday, -Golf With Jay Delsing.

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This is golf with Jay Delsing, a two-time All-American at UCLA, a participant in nearly 700 PGA Tour events, seven professional wins to his credit, over 30 years of professional golf experience, a member of the St. Louis Sports Hall of Fame. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. Golf with Jay Delsing on a Sunday morning on 101 ESPN, coming to you from the CarShield Studios.

We're presented by Darty Business Solutions. That's Jay Delsing. I'm Dan McLaughlin. A great guest coming up. We're going to tell you about that in just a moment, but first Jay got up off the floor into his chair, into the studio, and has recovered from last weekend's Ryder Cup. I know. Good morning. Good morning.

Have you recovered? Oh, Danny, I don't know, man. I just, I can't wait to talk about this with you. It's so fun to do this show with you and watching that, it's like we've seen this bad movie.

We've seen this ending before, but the way they started, there's a lot to unpack here. I really look forward to being with you. Our guest will include our number two, Chris Nagle, who calls St. Louis home, competes on the Corn Fairy Tour. He'll be in studio with us. And also, really looking forward to this, Vance Crowe will be our guest.

And just give our fans and our listeners a little bit of a teaser who Vance Crowe is. Yeah, so first of all, Vance is a great guy. He's a St. Louisan. He grew up not too far from here in Southern Illinois.

But he's one of those interesting people that you meet in your life, Danny, that I don't know anyone like him. He's, he's when we first met, he didn't know anything about golf. But he's, he's done podcasts. And he's always been in the ag ag business, the agricultural business. He's a nationally renowned public speaker and things like that. He founded legacy interviews, which is super, super cool. You and I talked a lot about how cool his business is. But basically, Vance, he's kind of like an expert in in communicating and he's just a really fascinating guy. And so we're talking and in kind of mixing, you know, like the pro amps in in these opportunities to meet and blend people into the game of golf. And how do you how do you make that, you know, for business?

Yeah, how do you make it work for business? And how does that, you know, how does that pan out and how, you know, golf, as you and I have seen is such a uniter, it just brings people together from all walks of life. And Vance is the perfect guy to kind of help the communication flow. So he'll be with us in our number one, Chris Nagel in our number two Ryder Cup 16 and a half to 11 and a half the euros win it.

And they started for no and that really set the tone didn't it in day one, it did Danny. So we both off the air looked at each other and said, Okay, someone not us would give us $1,000. Who would we got to put it on? We go in red, white and blue. And we both said the same thing.

Our hearts are all over the red, white and blue. Are the back of our mind was like, the smart play the money play with Europe. Yep. Yeah. And they showed it. Listen, here's what here's first of all, you got to help me with this. Of all the things that you come out with, I could see you come out crazy overhyped, crazy nervous and balls are flying everywhere because you're just you're hitting it over the green.

You're doing all this stuff because you are so jacked up to come on flat. Yeah, they did. And you know what, it makes me wonder. None of our guys played other than JT, who, let's be honest, he had and he had a nice Ryder Cup. Was he outstanding? No, but was he better than most on our team?

Probably. He's the only he and Max Homa were the only guys that played in the Fortinet championship, the only guys that had played in the vet in the last five weeks prior to and Europe did exactly the opposite. They played, you know, it wasn't the exactly the week before, but it was almost a week before on the DP World Tour. And then you lead me into the one of the questions I was going to ask you is that was the key outside of being a very talented team that was put together. And you can make a case that they had the six top players in the world, maybe even six to eight.

You can make that case, right? But was the key to the Euros winning on so on home soil now for 30 plus years. The fact that they mapped out that course, they there's a tremendous amount put into being the home team, if you will, and pin placement and that kind of thing. But they were there for a long time and understood and it looked like they were just so familiar with the course or Danny 100%.

We talked about this before. They play an event on the DP on their tour at Marco Simone. These guys have played that course. 50 6070 times they've competed in our guys, three or four.

That's a huge difference. The other thing is, and how cool is it that we got to have Luke Donald on the show and talk about just a few weeks ago? I know and he told us Yeah, we're into the analytics where we're examining all the numbers, we we are going to know exactly how to set this golf course up. And what was really interesting to me, how many drivable par fours do they have?

It was like three and Danny, you know why? Because the US are great wedge players, and they didn't and so they're better than Europe and they're all the all the analytics support that. So they push the tees up to take that, you know, 6070 80 yard wedge out of the American repertoire and they did it on three holes. And if you look at it, I mean, we saw Jordan Spieth hit it in the water on 16. We saw Ricky Fowler hit it in the water.

I mean, it just it was really interesting the way that they use the analytics and I really believe that the euros do a better job than we do at setting the golf courses up. Now, when we go to Bethpage Danny, that is going to be a bomber's paradise. And right now that's a new crowd. Can you imagine a New York crowd beat down that the United States just took? Oh, and every single person in that crowd is going to take that personally. Oh, absolutely.

Well, they do anyway. And you add a little bit of sauce on top of it's gonna be it's gonna be ruckus. Roy McElroy goes for one and Oh, yep, steps up big time in the absence of Sergio Garcia, Lee Westwood, Ian Poulter.

Great. He is the face of the European team and he stepped up and played in a big way. You know, Danny, he's not only that, he's coming into like the face of golf. Now the tiger is injured and, and, and we love and we love we love him for so much of that. You know, at the face of golf because of live, right, what's happened so much. And he's been the kind of at the the forefront of this every press conference, every tournament asked about that.

So I'm with you. I think he is the guy now when you talk about golf. He's a guy and you know, the you know what the problem with the US team is? We don't have a dude. They've got you you could take Rory is one and john ram is one a and let me tell you, Victor Hovland is one a and a half. I mean, he is he is young, but coming into his own and and taking on a lot of these responsibilities. And Danny, we we don't have a dude. So let me ask you, would you have been happy with Patrick Reed? DJ?

D Shambo? Would you rather seen that group there? Absolutely. Danny, that's what we had to talk about, right? Well, here's, here's what we knew going in. When we said this, if our guys don't perform, which they didn't, now comes this game, who we should have considered. I mean, no one would have had any trouble if Lucas Glover was on that team.

No one would have had any trouble if Keegan Bradley was on that dream that team. Now you take the three key live players, DJ, D Shambo, Patrick Reed. First of all, what did we say DJ went five and a whistling straights last time we had and has he played particularly well? No, does it matter? Danny?

Does it matter? In that exhibition tour that he's playing on? Can you judge how well he's playing just because he he had a top 10 in what the US Open and that was or a nine or whatever was right. So he was really in with a chance with if he if he makes a par instead of a whatever that number he made right.

So it makes you it makes you wonder, but I also think you need a great villain on your side. You need somebody that is willing to take the abuse of the fan base, and not only take it but then thrive on it. And I think Patrick Reed, I think DJ, I think kapka to an extent, these guys had jumped to live and are have been at times the face of the American team. And it was almost like this group didn't have that when you think about the US team. Well, Danny, look at the way they embrace that kind of thing. Right.

And Patrick Reed. He loves the black hat. Yeah, loves the black t shambo. I mean, you don't it. Whatever you say about Bryson de shambo makes no difference to him because he is going about this thing.

Half upside down and left handed right hand. However, he sees it. He doesn't care.

That doesn't affect him. DJ is one of those guys where he's like, let's just go the next hole. Let's go play. Let's do that. And this conversation is alive and well because we chose this US team.

Like it was a boy's trip. I mean, and I and listen. Jordan Spieth was a captain's pick. He's extremely capable. He had a horrible Ryder Cup, JT throughout Jordan's best buddy. He had a decent, a decent better than average Ryder Cup. Colin Morikawa hasn't played well in a while, Danny. Well, yeah, I agree. And we talked about that going into this. Would you take him?

Yes, you're going to take him, but you're gonna put him on certain pairings that would put him on the pedestal of what everybody's watching when you need to jump out. You need to get a point. He just wasn't the guy there. Nope, he didn't. He did.

He didn't deliver. I mean, Rickie Fowler and we love Rickie Fowler in this show. Rickie Fowler is a great human being and a hell of a player, right? He's played in four Ryder Cups and he's played in 17 matches, Danny, and four over four Ryder Cups and brought home five points. Three, nine and five all time.

And he went oh two and oh, obviously at the Ryder Cup this past weekend. Yeah. And in the whole conceding, it's hard for me to even ask you. What did you think? I listen, we're going to lose anyway.

I don't think that's why we lost. However, if you're playing me, you've got to crush my skull. I got to make you make that putt.

You have got to exactly how do you crush my skull? You make that two foot eight inch putt. You do not get that putt with me. I was shocked when he did that.

You don't. Were you shocked as a former player? Shocked. Yeah. I was like, what? Yeah. So now it's over. I mean, listen, he's got to probably make it, but that's why you play the game, Danny. Go make it.

What if he does it? Now on the flip side, there was a bright spot for the Americans and that's Max Homer. Three, one and one. He was absolutely outstanding. I got to tell you, he played his ass off. He played in every single match and he, I was amazed at how well he handled everything.

D they played him in everything. The alternate shot, the best ball. He, he, he went out and won his individual match.

I mean, not easy to do. Love the kid. Love the way he has. We have watched him on this show and you know, we have our other show beyond the fairways where we, we talk about, you know, the betting side of, and we have watched Max Homer just climb up the ladder in confidence, in victories.

He's got six wins on the PGA tour now. And then he just, he looked like he was so at home over there, Danny. How about the, the walk-off chip? Oh, it was awesome. That's Tigresque. Exactly. That was bad ass.

I love that. At that point, I thought the Americans might be able to get some momentum and say, okay, there's, there's light at the end of the tunnel here. We can see it. There's a little glimmer of hope. And you thought, all right, they have a shot. And it just didn't happen.

Danny starting off. Oh, and four. That was the kid to me. I agree with you. It's like, it's like playing a baseball game and you're down six, nothing after three. I mean, you're like, well, maybe we can score seven. Right.

But I don't. Yeah. That's just, just tough. What'd you think of the pairings on the American side?

Head scratchers. I mean, why do you say that? So Scotty Scheffler's world number one, right? How about him in tears?

He, I did. So he and Brooks Koepka get the biggest whipping in the history of the writer's shocking 97. But that pairing is an interesting pairing to me to kind of oil and vinegar or oil and water sort of characters, you know, and sometimes that mixes, but Danny, the bottom line is I don't think like if I am Zach Johnson and in the first match of the first day, I don't put Sam burns and Scotty Scheffler together. They're too nice.

I don't do it. I gear, I get it. They could play while they certainly can. I want heart, soul, guts. I want J J T out there with someone, maybe JT and Koepka, maybe JT. And I know Jordan Jordan's be that horrible. Jordan's beef had a watch. You know, Danny, here's another guy. He just, he and his wife just had their second child 10 days ago. Yeah. So where's his mind? I mean, come on. Yeah. What?
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