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May 22, 2021 2:00 pm
Dr. Bruce Logan is this week's guest. He joins us to discuss the Israel / Hamas conflict and why it is critical to have a Biblical worldview to properly understand what is taking place in the Holy Land.
Dr. Bruce Logan (DBL Ministries – drbrucelogan.com)
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Now, in honor of the one and only true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob left join Wayne see Thomas for today's message. I'm sitting here and I well phones right here in my pocket you hear buzz every once in a while and when my phone buzzes. That means that rockets are being fired is an there is a political there is a spiritual there is a historical there's a lot of different ways that wintertime to this today is also an emotional element that ties in because these are rockets that are being fired literally at my family and I want to say thank you because most people don't understand what that means.
Most people don't understand why that is happening.
Most people don't really care most of the world doesn't care most of the United States doesn't care.
The reason I'm saying think is because I'm sitting in a group with a group of people who do care about what happens to the program. My name is Brian Thomas, and I want to thank you for tuning in today to the God first program the voice that you just heard was David Howell. He is a Jewish Israeli. He was a guest speaker this past weekend at the 412 church in California. He was speaking about this issue that is going on right now this is really conflict. So I decided today that I wanted to speak on this topic and I invited my good friend Dr. Bruce Logan who is a teacher conference speaker in Bible college instructor is the founder of Bruce Logan ministries asked him to come on to talk about this topic and how Christians should view what is taking place when it comes the nation of Israel so that alumina want to thank you for joining us today folks.
And when we come to to look at this topic.
There are so many different angles there so many different perspectives that you can look at this issue before we jump into the discussion. I want you to listen to one more clip from Tom Hughes who is the pastor for 12 church. This was the way in which he open his sermon this past Sunday so you have paid attention to the news this past week. Let me ask you this how many of you paid attention to the news going on in Israel. Okay you do a lot better than about 98% of America so praise the Lord. So as as you heard in the opening clip from David's how you heard him say most people don't understand. Most people don't care and I deftly see that as I look around and even in churches had to look high and low to find someone that actually talked about this topic. I visited my former church this past Sunday which will go nameless and there was not a single mention of the nation of Israel that was talk about the gasoline shortage. There was talk about the CDC's changing guidelines, but there was no talk about Israel. So Dr. Logan will we come to look at the nation of Israel concerning this the specific conflict that is going on right now is look at the wider picture. Throughout history, what is a Christian to think when it comes to the nation of Israel will bite your way actually arrived very rare.
There we pointed out more different aspects of the current conflict and none of which you would probably here in the mainstream media noted a political aspect at an emotional aspect of the most elite being that you family at the time and each one of those are in the visual topic that we believe are apt to understand what elements of political or global are very very important to relate in a large part to back me up in time, but I believe that we ran each of the very interesting things that are not the political component component and that will be in the mainstream media at all whatsoever you will hear a lot about the political component, even when they talk about the political component in the mainstream media are only talking about narrative world, which means they worldview and the world media in the world from an anti-Israel perspective absolutely stated earlier, as I look around in churches today what what makes me scratch my heat is because how much that what is taking place is based on the Bible. The Bible says that the prophetic timeclock in God's order of events is the nation of Israel, and so when I look at churches and I see churches are not talking about this at all.
It it makes me scratch my head like a said they talk about the gas shortages which which is something important. They talk about the CDC guidelines whether you should wear a mask or nodding in again not not to say those things are not important, but me and we talk about the nation of Israel and God's timeline. It is should be something that we should pay attention to is Chris is so before we go forward.
I want to play again one more clip from again. David's how and I mentioned pastor Tom Hughes is the pastor for 12 church and I commend him as being one of the few pastors who addressed this issue but he open his sermon by talking about the nation of Israel and then he had this this gas. David's how do a sitdown interview with him at the end of the service so I want to listen to the next clip in which he speaking of the enemy targeting God's chosen people, because this is the enemy actually targeting literally physically missiles and crosshairs is targeting God's chosen people. They're doing it for reason. The reason is actually laid out in this book. Okay this is where it's coming from and if you have if you have a? About what's going on okay. Look at the plan. Look at the book look at the story and realizing what you're seeing played out is actually playing out in the real world. Okay, again, this is not history Channel so the whole but I gone that worst talking about today in Israel started off on that platform that you just now saw mentioned in the book of Revelation in the court of the Gentiles. That's where it all started off the demonstrations that sparked off the missiles that were fired by Gaza individuals actually started off on that place but I'm trying to say is what's happening is Israel, and in this is what a lot of people don't really realize what's happening in Israel is bringing this story into the real world and people need to understand that in coming in and what David's how the speaking of when he says the book he's talking about the Bible and I got to Logan. That is why so important to have a biblical worldview. When we look at this issue right.
The Bible clearly wrote you are God's chosen people and that the land is going to be land going to be dedicated toward you contact what will measure with the Abraham recovered at the beginning of chapter 12 we got and I will bless you in all the world to go further and time went by, Abraham began to obey God and God go and I will make that anyone can number in Georgia and all walk about the land grant I will follow that if you look at Google Joshua chapter 1 verse four. From Lebanon to the great river all night to the great Mediterranean toward the going down of the fund shall be your cold one. So there I read it context of the land and there were like a part-time state and an apartheid state called called them colonial when you plan out the near not a colonial if not an apartheid state and so one thing that we have element in their property.
All connect history and property all all under the same umbrella because of the definition of property rewritten in advance rewritten before the event that a quick and property are not anonymous want to go current conflict go so terribly represented by the media really become today. I will report from a report little soundbite from the order and clip of you have that iron Dome will be boarding the ground and in the air. Iron Dome impacting him off rocket for the grout and the language reported. While all going on in the background report: quote on changing out the rocket in the background critically think they were not in exchange rocket rocket being fired by her mom and gold rocket before they get back there was not rocket would be rocket flying from her mom and rocket back. That will be in exchange iron Dome technology rocket that were being fired into their territory against population of how the role representing an and you come to the mainstream media and how they how they report items that we Christian should always that were being lied to by the media and to otherwise otherwise not proven to work, being lied to the left proven otherwise, the way they have been reporting the idea about the two state solution. They have been totally unbelievable but they were able to get away with representation. There audience who they'll or total equipment and and why the believer, we have a level of hundred level of thinking about it yet. Reporter profit no eyeball, reminded me of an example like sometime last year whenever reporting on the right. The BLM riot Michael Floyd and and beer order. There was a short, you won't write one Bob are on fire and offered a block away. New construction high-rise being burned down yet they call that people think that right about January correction reported representation of really what you have and are critical thinker. Whenever reporting on the way the media have become really borderline demonic agree with your civil rights and as you stated you gave those passages from Scripture so clear that God promised this land to the Jewish people, but we see the media. There are so many anti-Christ media figures out there and I know that sounds harsh is a strong word, but if you're not on the side of Jesus Christ. That means you are antichrist and so there are so many out there that they don't go along with the Bible.
They think the Bible is is this book that is just unimportant and that should be dismissed. So, you often will get reporting from a rhetorical standpoint, there's rhetoric that does not align with Scripture in and I was listening to a report this morning and again the way they're reporting you there. They given the fact the number of fatalities in Gaza and in their showing that the accounts and there there making it as though Israel is in the wrong. Israel is the aggressor and will you know when you look at it because Israel has such a great as you say, the iron Dome defense system then. Not as many missiles get through to the calls casualties on the Israel side but Israel has to protect itself. So when the counterattack then the death count may be higher, and so is portrayed in a way in which Israel is in the wrong.
Suppose it is so important. Like you said not to Logan that we as believers are looking at things through the Bible and I say believers because the world, we expect the world not to see these things not to understand. But what troubles me so much is that churches when I see churches that either don't talk about it at all, or they they talk about it from a misinformed standpoint in your leaving it in the hands of the media to influence people and that is when people get mixed up, even those in the church before we move on, and an important and another after the media not reporting real backward more so than any other.
Maybe in my cavity right there notifying apartment complex building located morning all of our building property is rated to be targeted will gotta give you a lot of time to stand and they also have remember the name of Obama that will make a loud noise about that will make a loud sound and anybody else in their more time to before the actual bomb and so there there without all an immediate report knowing that whatsoever. They're not given any credit unusual measures to minimize what they wanted when they end up being Cala cavity made all of their corporate enterprise and try to do when are we a propaganda war to play all the emotions of the poor who don't know any better cyclists in case anyone is wondering will wise Israel targeting civilian facilities like an apartment complex. What happens is Hamas is launching rockets from those locations and they're not doing that again for propaganda purposes. They are not a rocket from a apartment building, hoping that Israel will will fire back and hit it and then that which you a lot of people, civilians, and then make a report. Look at what Israel is doing the killing of women and children, but they're not in our knowledge of these rockets from from a military facility so that's something that is so important and that's why you need to have a biblical worldview and that is why you have to look at these things through the eyes of godliness.
So, so that ties in directly to what David Tao had to say. Recently, this past Sunday at the fourth will church in the battle that I'm fighting for my nation. Right now there is a right side and there is a wrong site. It's not the same thing and I hear people standing up on undernutrition as we so what's his name. The other note driven off okay and he says I don't understand it. I don't understand what happened. I don't understand why it happened.
All I know is that there's decided this IDs are dying and these are dining at St. and in a world where you take godliness out of the equation, then everything the same. Remember, you're not allowed to do that you can't take God out of the story. You can't take out a story because if you take him out. There is no right in the room what is a matter okay. But if God is in the story than the battle that is being funded Israel those rockets that are actually being dropped on the hands of people okay are part of a much much larger battle what they're saying is the promises that were made in this book. Don't have any relevance is a dog looking like he said when would you take godliness out of the equation and you're going to be misled by the media that you play the opening when he pointed out the different component made a comment now that all part of a much much larger and you know you really really know only on last time we were talking about how how we as believers need to recognize spiritual battle is much more happening that we are learning other than what we're paying you know by the media here and by NBA player or about how much of the narrative about America current problem is important to being just black and white more happening beside black versus white.
Because the truth is not black versus white man because we are all totally black white male male. Asian skinny matter. We are all all we are all out of all part of all of human nature, which is why we need a statement that part about how much, much larger than what being portrayed that that that right there may be the most significant statement. We are absolutely absolutely the last clue that I want to play as we wrap things up is Pastor Tom use the pastoral thoughts will church he really drives home the point that this is a much larger spiritual battle that were looking at is also the attack of right and wrong is really against God's word and when I look at the attack against Israel. I do believe spiritually, you have this demonic force that is against Israel because the enemy of our souls does not want the Lord to return the rule and reign from Jerusalem so that a little nestled is all about what is going on.
For now, for thousands of years. This is all pointing to the climatic event is going to come with our Lord Jesus Christ is going to return. He's going to rule and reign from Jerusalem and asked him out there.
I've heard the stories about is going to return to Independence, Missouri in New York City and Washington DC know he's returning to Jerusalem. That is, where is this conflict there because the demonic forces know that the time is getting closer and closer you're going to see the demonic activity escalating the closer that we get to the return of Christ.
So in the last minute and just again share with the listeners about the. The import is to look at this from a biblical worldview and understanding the spiritual component is going on behind the scenes that you played really that we are spiritual battle and God have given the land of their territory to the Jewish people and every man in a conflict going on in the middle of the conflict demonic trying to prevent God. God plan from coming to pass and teach about talk about a particular topic that bears to all component that you can summarize the demonic activity in category two main objectives one God and God's people that come and go full circle when we view the current conflict number one enemy trying to wipe out God's chosen people and would also be God being completely provided coverage being conveyed about the conflict and very very important goal. God plan and God's people and why that we have a world order in particular started start really educating their people and one more firm and more teaching, expository level, we need more teaching on the book of Revelation on the book of Daniel, and I'll probably see you and get Bible verse by verse. Expository teaching and preaching and that the only way that we're going to expand our mind and to really hold about 200 and the relationship between what Spiritually in the world and and what we hear in an ping on the new man will send will say it will not want to thank you for coming on to talk to us about about this very important topic. The nation of Israel in the current conflict in why we should have a good worldview and how how can the listeners get in touch with you if they would like to find out more about your ministry okay.
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