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February 11, 2019 9:19 am
This week on Family Policy Matters, NC Family President John Rustin talks to Steven Aden, chief legal officer and general counsel for Americans United for Life (AUL), one of the country’s preeminent pro-life legal organizations. Aden focuses on recent anti-life legislation as well as AUL’s annual Life List, a ranking of every state in regards to the status of their pro-life laws. Aden discusses North Carolina’s placement specifically, and what can be and is being done to move our state higher in the rankings.
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It entails the right to obtain abortion at any time for any reason from anyone and have it paid for by you and make his family policy matters, a weekly radio show and podcast from family designed to better inform listeners about the critical issues of the day and encourage you to be voices of persuasion for family values in your community and your host and see family Pres. John Rustin thank you for joining us for family policy matters. Many of us have been horrified and even sick, and in recent weeks, when we heard about efforts in various states across our nation that are owned and abortion bandwagon. Several states like New York, Virginia, Rhode Island and Vermont have attempted to successfully expanded abortion walls to horrifying degrees. New York even did so on the anniversary of Roe V Wade is a symbolic gesture that just shows how far this battle has grown each year, Americans United for life. One of the country's preeminent pro-life legal organizations evaluates the status of laws protecting the unborn in all 50 states across the nation and publishes its annual life list this year, North Carolina ranked a disappointing 23rd on a UL's life list today were joined by UL's chief legal officer and General Counsel Stephen Aiden to discuss the status of pro-life laws nationwide, and what we here in North Carolina can learn from the top ranks states Stephen oversees all legal operations at a UL and has appeared in court dozens of times to stand up for life and against the abortion industry including having been appointed by the attorneys general of six states to defend pro-life laws stay welcome to family policy matter to try to have you on the show great beer while we appreciate your time and appreciate your great work and Steve as we begin our conversation tell us about Americans United for life's annual life list was to take into consideration and how long has AUL been producing up to John. Thank you. Expect her life has been around since 1971 years before Robert Wade were the oldest and most active pro-life organization and not US and for the last 15 years or so we've been issuing what we call our annual life list right around the March for life. We issue a list of rankings of all the states one through 50 in order of their commitment to protecting the sanctity of life and that's why were here, we issued our 20 1980 well life list several weeks ago. Some states have moved up.
Others have moved back and as you mentioned, a North Carolina number 23 showing some good leadership among the states and protecting life. Well, thank you for that information.
All the great work and information that you will provide in this life list is so important so that folks around the country can see in comparison with other states how their state is performing and also areas for improvement in areas where they may need to really consider changing their laws in order to become more pro-life estate from your perspective, what were the major takeaways from this year's life list analysis well done a number of states have shown very strong gains.
We call them are stars in fact three states shot up by three points that were three spaces if you will, for example, Nebraska is up to number 10 from 13 on Nebraska this year defunded the abortion industry and its appropriateness, its appropriations legislation.
Alabama is another good example of a state*there are up three from 18 to number 15 Alabama amended its constitution to declare there's no right to abortion. No right to public funding of abortion and that was passed by a wide measure by Alabama voters. Similarly, West Virginia. They moved up three from 30 to number 27. They also amended the Constitution to declare that there is no right to abortion, and no right to funding and that vote last year was come from behind victory that really showed they pro-life stripes of the state. Congratulations to those states. We certainly want North Carolina to enter condos company and and hope to do so in the near future. Now the 2019 life list was published stay before news broke about New York and Virginia's radical abortion proposals that we've heard much about recently. Let's start with New York. How does the adoption of the reproductive health act change the status of abortion in the Empire State.
New York has done so much, even before Roe versus Wade to promote and encourage abortion on demand, but that even your crown new ways amazingly horrific ways to promote abortion in this recent bill. One of the things it does strips out of the state statute to protections for babies born during abortion strips out what what is called the born alive infant protection act seconded strips out all references to abortion in the criminal code, but that does is it makes it harder for prosecutors to prosecute an abortionist who does such a bad job that it's criminally negligent, or even manslaughter and then also USA supervision that calls on County coroner's to do an autopsy on a woman who start an abortion if you can believe that as a way of hiding the connection between abortion and death last year abortionist in New York and Queens.
Dr. Robert Rowe pled guilty to negligent homicide for killing a woman and abortion that kind of prosecution will be much more difficult now New York.
Unfortunately, due to the law that Gov. Cuomo signed it. Does the things that you know the.
The point I make about New York is what more could New York do to promote abortion on demand. It's sad horrifying that it's stripping out these protections in law but in point of fact, it's always been about an abortion destination even before Roe versus Wade.
And yet if you look at the numbers of abortions done in New York. They continually drop year by year and by large numbers dropping like a rock that tells us that whatever the pro-life movement is doing in New York and generally across the US. It really should keep doing because it's saving a lot of lives and driving down the demand for abortion listening to radio selling gas from the family. You can sign up to receive and to listen to the show online. Namely, 19 nasty. Closer to home for us here in North Carolina, Virginia, recently considered another horrific abortion built one of the delegates even admitted in committee testimony that the bill would allow abortion even after the mother went into labor and Virginia's newly elected governor Ralph Ralph Northam who is a pediatric neurologist went so far as to say I want to read this quote and I quote. If the mother is in labor. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be Comfortable being infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother in the family desired and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother." I guess he means a discussion of whether the baby lives or dies. What you make of all this was really well not only disturbing but incredibly surprising to many of us who heard these remarks once in a while the mask slips and you get a glimpse at how horrible abortion really is and what abortion advocates really propose the governor here was given an opportunity to walk those comments back and he doubled down, but he really didn't have a choice because if he had separated himself from the agenda of radical abortion on demand all throughout gestation. Planned Parenthood given him millions of dollars in donations and other organizations on the left would cut them off at the knees. That's the way they are now finally understanding what the liberal pro-abortion agenda really entails. It entails the right to obtain abortion at any time for any reason from anyone. It doesn't have to be a doctor anymore and have it paid for by you and me. So the horrors to full. First, the horrors hearing elected official defendant infanticide. But second, seeing finally that this is really their political agenda.
And despite what governor Northam said it's not true that most of these abortions happen because of so-called fetal defects and that would be an absolute shame if that were true, because even probably, especially babies that have challenges in life deserve life, love and compassion and not to be dismembered as a doctor, he should know better. He should also know that what he described as a little bizarre. The mental picture of a baby lying on the table between life and death while the doctor and the mother debate whether the court diet is not really how it happens, I mean the doctor and the mother before the baby is delivered decide if the babies viable best chance of viability if it does what they will do to keep this resuscitated and strengthening all those decisions are made before birth, so I don't know what he's talking about but I do just assume that he got caught flat-footed in trying to defend truly indefensible procedures. It did seem like the curtain was pulled back Solomon we got to see a vision of what we know already occurs, and now Steve and you will like the restaurant as we've already talked about in the middle of the packet number 23 on this year's life list from your perspective what has North Carolina done well and what are some areas we can improve constant lot well it's taken steps to protect the health and welfare of how women and unborn children.
It's not a prohibition on site selection abortions and informed consent law protects unborn victims of violence from conception until birth.
Our rankings are comprehensive so it's not just about abortion.
It's about suicide by physician about human cloning destructive embryo research and in some of those areas. North Carolina lacks black legs a bit behind in our report and recommendations for North Carolina this year, recommending things like enhancing the penalties and enforcement meccas mechanisms for abortion laws enhancing regulation of RU-486 drug induced abortion strengthening parental involvement things like that but it's already obviously a pro-life state there many good minded folks there so our hats off to the target state. One of my favorite places. I love to come down. Thanks for those recommendations. I will say that it's not from a lack of efforts and lack of trying on many of the issues that you mentioned where we could improve. We have had bills introduced and have been advocating for those for years and just need folks to get involved to citizens across the state to engage and contact their legislators and let them know how important those initiatives are Steve, as we close our conversation, one end on that note and just ask you from your experience, especially as we look at protecting life from the younger stages to the old stages.
How important is it for citizens to get involved and engaged in the contact their elected officials to express their interest and concerns about these issues so I can understand how important that is. Legislators need to know that by large places like Carolina really care about life. It is from conception to the grave commitment to bringing everyone into the human community and affirming our status together as made in the image of a loving heavenly father to the extent that legislators can hear that from or more people that understand what they need to do and who they are accountable to the thing to do is set the need to get involved in 40 days for life, pro-life pregnancy centers, mothers ministries, men's ministries discipling men and how to take care of the family how to take care of children and how to be true to their commitments.
All those things make for a culture of life, those of the things that Americans have thought extends beyond doubts before we leave. Steve, I want to let's our listeners know where they can go as you mentioned several times during our conversation to gain access to a lot of the great information that Americans United for life has on your website and that's a UL.org again AUL.org and deftly want to encourage folks to avail themselves of those great resources including the 2019 life list and with that Stephen made not one. Thank you so much for your great work and for being with us on family policy matters. Thank you John.
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