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Before we get into everything, because there's really nothing to talk about today, as you know, I just kind of want to get. Your 30,000-foot thoughts on this video clip that we all saw that came out yesterday evening. And it's the Vice President who is answering a question at this confab that was held a couple of days ago. And he didn't outright say it, but he did intimate that somehow the United States might be in threat of having Israel dictate foreign policy when I actually think it's inverse. And I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on this.

Yeah, I mean, there's no question that the United States Exerts enormous influence over Israel's foreign affairs in a way that Israel simply does not exert because America is the one holding the end of the chain. I mean, America is a military supplier to Israel. America provides aid to Israel. America is in a superior position to Israel on sort of a global hegemonic scale. Everyone recognizes that, including Israel, which openly says it routinely, and you can name dozens of times, literally dozens, in which the United States has told Israel not to pursue a particular course of action or that they need to make concessions in a particular way.

And Israel has then had to scramble in order to do that. You cannot name a time when the opposite has been true because it doesn't exist. The United States is in a pure superior position with regard to Israel, as it is with pretty much all of our allies that are significantly smaller than we are. It's like saying Ukraine controls American foreign policy, when in reality, the United States is dictating terms to Ukraine most of the time. The kind of implication of the vice president's statement there is a rather conspiratorial one, which is that there are forces outside the United States that have been exerting some sort of secretive control.

The way that American policy is done. He said the same thing about NATO, by the way, which I also thought was kind of weird because the reality is that NATO does not dictate policy to the United States. The president has been extraordinarily effective at dictating policy to NATO, telling NATO that they need to up their spend, telling them what we will and will not be involved in. In fact, there is only one nation in the history of NATO that has actually invoked the much-discussed Article 5, which is the Mutual Defense Pact in NATO, and that's the United States during the post-September 11th Afghanistan war.

So, you know, again, this whole kind of weird conspiratorial idea that American foreign policy is not controlled by the American president or the American Congress or the American people. It's controlled by nefarious forces working from the outside to pull strings. It's a bunch of crap, but I think that it appeals to a certain number of people. It does. And it's just weird.

I mean, it's just you had the McElmore thing, and then you had this clip come out. And then, of course, as we're getting towards, you know, October 7th and the observance of what happened on October 7th, all of this stuff is hitting. You get the New York Times piece that came out where they, it was an opinion piece in the New York Times where. The line was something to the effect of Jewish people who are making themselves victims after October 7th or some sort of wording. I can't imagine that same editorialist stating that if he was talking about Americans and the per capita of 40,000 people that we would have lost if an October 7th had happened here.

That's insane. I mean, the New York Times, the actual line, I believe, was something to the effect of Israelis perceive themselves still to be the victims of October 7th. It's like, I'm not sure what other way you would perceive yourself when there's a massive terrorist attack on your country that kills 1,200 people and takes 250 hostages. Even if you think, I think wrongly, that Israel miscalibrated its response to Hamas, I don't think there is any world in which you can argue that the Israelis were not the victims of October 7th. The only way that you could possibly argue that is if you're in full solidarity with Hamas and somehow the slaughter of innocent civilians, including babies, being dragged back into Gaza and strangled with your bare hands, which is what happened to the Beavis family, that somehow that was earned by the Jews and all their nefarious.

Capability in the Middle East.

So, but the New York Times is trash, obviously. The New York Times, I got in a bit of a fight with them last week because I pointed out that their headlines around 9-11 were all about Islamophobia. And that if you just read the front page of their website over at the New York Times and you were an alien who had just arrived on Earth, you would imagine that 25 years ago, a bunch of mean white Americans attacked and murdered thousands of Muslims in the United States, which, of course, is not quite what happened on September 11th. Yeah. And it also kind of, I mean, I think you could argue that it sort of also began as an immigration issue, which brings us to our next topic because you've also been talking about this.

I'm in Texas. I see a lot of what's being discussed, but I also see a lot of conservative voters. Like, for instance, you know, the Hispanic swing towards Republicans for the past like several elections has been huge. I don't want to jeopardize that because I don't feel, I don't think that people understand the risk to losing Texas that that represents by losing that voting block.

So obviously, you know, you had one of the candidates that. That's running for Texas Railroad Commission tweeted this thing about UT's audience there at the stadium watching UT versus Ohio. And there was a lot of discussion. I think we're all for, and I don't think anyone disagrees with being in favor of immigration that is sustainable and that is limited and that is restricted and that adds to our republic. Because you can't say what does an American look like because there isn't a singular model for that.

But the way that this has been presented, now you have phrases like heritage American being thrown around. What is even that? Like, where did all of this stuff come from? From a simple discussion that should have just been about immigration? Talk to us about that.

Yeah, I mean, this is what was so strange about the Texas Railroad Commissioner candidate, Bo French's tweet, is that he took a small slice of the constituency at a University of Texas football game that appeared to be disproportionately Indian in ethnicity. And then he suggested that this was the sort of replacement population in Texas.

Now, there has been demographic change in Texas as there has been demographic change across the country. I think a lot of that demographic change has not been to the benefit of the United States, which is why I'm not in favor of mass migration. That is not the same thing as taking a snapshot. of students at University of Texas. Turns out a huge majority of those students are citizens of the United States and many of them were born in the United States and then saying, these people don't belong here.

I mean, I don't know whether those people belong here or not because I don't know what their belief systems are. In fact, the only thing I know about them is that they're rooting for the University of Texas at the University of Texas football game.

Now, if you had taken that picture and say, Little Somalia in Minnesota, I would have said, yeah. And I mean, if you took a picture of Little Somalia in Minnesota, you said, this shouldn't have happened. Like, okay, I think that that probably makes some sense. You don't want ethnic enclaves that look like Somalia in the middle of Minnesota. But you took a picture at a University of Texas football game, and you treated that as though there is no way for those people who look like that to become American.

And that's the part that is really disturbing. When it comes to sort of the heritage-American argument, it is indivisible from the way that people are describing it. From a sort of ethnic division of America. And that's the part that I find truly bizarre. Like, how are we supposed to measure that?

So, if your family was here in 1660, are you more of a heritage American than somebody whose family arrived in, say, 1780? And that makes you more of a heritage American than somebody whose family arrived in the 1880s. Like, how do we measure this? And if we are measuring it that way, does this mean that if you are, say, a Native American and your family has been here since far beyond that, that you are the true heritage American? Like, you start to get in some pretty dicey.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, the actual reality of being an American is that America, of course, is a people because every country is the people that inhabit it, but it is creedal. I mean, if you embrace the American Creed and if you assimilate to the American tradition, the Anglo-American legal tradition, the constitutional tradition, the Judeo-Christian, Traditions of the United States doesn't mean you have to convert to any particular religion, but that is the water that we swim in, is this Judeo-Christian heritage, this biblical heritage. If you assimilate to that, then sure, you can be a wonderful American. And what I always wonder for these folks who are shouting about heritage Americanism is: so, okay, now I have a question.

What do you do with J.D. Vance's family? What do you do with them? His wife Is a second generation, right? She was born in the United States.

Her parents were immigrants to the United States. His children are half Indian.

Well, what exactly do you do with them? Could I take a picture of J.D. Vance's house, where 83% of the people living in J.D. Vance's house are of Indian extraction and say, why is America being transformed like this? I mean, that's a pretty weird thing to say.

I think it's a pretty strange take on reality, beyond which, if you're going to argue for heritage Americanism and the idea that sort of bloodline is what dictates here, you're going to have to get rid of a huge number of the major innovators in the United States who have powered America, ranging from Elon Musk to Jensen Huang to Sunder Pincha. I mean, they're just, what are we trying to accomplish here? If you want to make an argument about how we should change H-1B visas, let's make that argument. If we want to make an argument about how there shouldn't be mass migration from third world countries, I actually agree with that argument. But that's not the argument that seems to be had.

It's kind of this Mott and Bailey thing where I take a photo, I say something really evocative and ugly about the photo. And then when you say, you shouldn't say that, that's wrong. You retreat to it. I'm just against mass migration.

Okay, then just say. Against mass migration. I mean, this is just a stupid game that's being played in order to get some clicks and giggles online. For those just joining us, we're talking with our friend Ben Shapiro, and we're going to ask him about this new film that's out with Daily Wire here in a moment. One last thing on this, I'm going to ask you about a screening of that film at the Alamo Draft House.

I always felt like this Heritage American and all of this other stuff was part of this, you know, the Marxist CRT. It's identity politics designed to go after E pluribus unum out of many one, because that's America's heritage. Is do you want to be free? I mean, do you want to live in liberty and be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor? That seems to be like our true identity.

Do you think, in your opinion, I just feel like this is kind of a psyop. to attack that that because if if we do have a creed it's that one Yeah, I mean, I think it's designed to attack meritocracy at root. I think that it's fascinating to see the kind of tone and tenor of the people who are talking about H-1B visas, for example, versus their tone and tenor about illegal immigration. They're much more animated about H-1B visas than they are about illegal immigration, which makes zero sense considering that there is vastly more illegal immigration in the country than there are H-1B visa holders total. I mean, you're talking about.

750,000 jobs out of 164 million in the United States that are H1B visa driven. You're talking about probably at least 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States. But the anger with regard to H1Bs is much higher because the idea is I'm being cheated of my rightful share. I would have held that job if it were not for this import. And I think that that is undergirding a lot of this.

And so I think for a lot of these folks, it doesn't matter that some of these people who are at the UT game. Our citizens who happen to be brown. I think the idea is that person stole my slot. And I know that it's my slot because I am a heritage American. And again, that is really ugly stuff.

It is. I mean, and I think that's, I mean, that makes sense. That's a good point. I wanted to ask you before we let you go: Run, Hide, Fight was your first feature film.

Now, the second, Run, Hide, Fight, Infidels. Run, Hide, Fight, for those who didn't see it, which you should. It's a student at a high school and they're basically attacked by, I mean, terrorists, Islamists, there, and they have to defend themselves. And then, of course, Run Hide Fight Infidels is on a liberal college campus. And then you have an Islamist encampment, and it's kind of like red dawn, but in a modern era.

Now, I saw, Ben, that the Alamo Draft House was going to host a screening. And now it was canceled. Or DC Drive House, sorry, DC Drivehouse Theater. It was canceled. You were going to screen this.

So I guess all of the people who are screaming about McAmore being canceled, they're going to absolutely scream about Daily Wire being canceled in this respect, correct? Absolutely. I'm sure they are going to be wildly upset about that cancellation. Again, this is all expected. It's not a giant shock.

We're seeing posters for run-head fight infidels in New York being torn down. I'm sure it's going to happen on college campuses as well. We'll see some protests.

Now, honestly, because the movie just says the thing, the movie makes the point that radical Islam on American soil is a bad thing. And then the terrorists who take over the campus are an offshoot of ISIS and they actually do ISIS things on film.

So the reviews are pretty hilarious. They're coming out from Variety and Slate already. Slate called the movie deranged. Why is it deranged? It's deranged because it shows ISIS doing ISIS things.

And that's mean. We're not allowed to show that. We have to pretend that they're actually nice, good-hearted folks. Variety went after it and said, you know, if you want a movie that says that, that takes lightly the concerns of radical leftists who are just concerned about peace and justice in the universe, this is the film for you. This is not the film for you.

I don't think radical leftists are dedicated to peace and care and wonder. That's sort of the point of the film.

So, yeah, again, the movie is, I would say, kind of a cross between Red Dawn and Blazing Saddles in some way. It's really fun. It's really funny, but it has some serious points to make amidst all of the trollery.

Well, I mean, the concept is now. I mean, it is, and that's part of why I think it's so attractive and it resonates with people because they see it. They see it on the, they saw it on campuses. They saw it in the news. They were reading about it.

They were seeing it on social media.

So for anyone to say that it's like crazy or fantastical, I mean, I guess they've had their head buried in the sand. People can go to dailywire.com and you can actually go find it. It's videos, Run Hide, Fight Infidels. Check it out. Go see the screening where it is near you because it's there out now.

And it's an easy two-hour movie.

So it's not, thank you for not having it like four hours long. Thank you for not going full score Saisy. I appreciate it. But Run Hide Fight Infidels, Ben Shapiro, always appreciate your voice, my friend, and really appreciate your. Fight all these years.

Thank you. Good to see you. Thanks so much, Jane. Great to see you. Of course.

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So welcome back. If you missed anything, we always have the podcast, Channel 347 Direct TVs, where you can stream the radio program. And of course, we also have Substack Chapter and Verse. I want to dive in to the soundbite that emerged yesterday evening of Vice President J.D. Vance, who was at a confab and he was speaking and taking some questions.

And one of the questions specifically had to do with foreign policy, well, for uh foreign policy, particularly the United States's policy and then the I would say the perspective of involvement by Israel. And I'm going to play this and then we're going to discuss it. This was the VP, and from what I understand, wasn't, I think this was literally from just last night. It was uh or the night before last. Listen.

Which is yes, obviously a lot of important relationships, a lot of important partnerships in NATO, but that doesn't mean that we're going to completely make our European foreign policy subservient to NATO in the same way that we cannot let our Middle Eastern foreign policy be subservient to the state of Israel. We're going to work with people when we work with them. We're going to disagree when we disagree, and we're going to pursue America's interests. That's the only way to have a rational foreign policy. And I know some of us have one last question here.

Hmm.

So What is the remark here? The remark here is that, well, you know, we wouldn't, the fact that it would even be thrown out is weird to me. The fact that this would even be kind of just tossed out there the way it is. Like, we cannot let our Middle East foreign policy be subservient to the state of Israel.

Now, some people, his wording there was almost too clever by half. His wording there was specific and it gives him some wiggle room, right? Because he's not coming out and saying, well, that, you know, it absolutely is, but he is intimating by even throwing it out there, he's suggesting that there, or he's entertaining the conspiracy theories that that's how it's been, or that that's even a possibility. I have to correct that because the idea that Israel runs U.S. policy on anything is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.

Let me give you the 30,000-foot view, and then we're going to dive into the nitty-gritty. First off, this is entirely inverted. It's not the U.S. that takes notes from Israel. Israel's entire foreign policy is overshadowed by the United States.

Not just the United States, but world opinion. The entirety of Israel's foreign policy is at the mercy of public opinion from Europe and the West. Entirely. And the entire reason I'll be I'll go out and be real shocking. The entire reason October 7th even partly happened, aside from Hamas being animals, which is the other aspect of it, is because Israel believed in the false containment trap.

Israel thought it was easier and better. To satiate the public opinion of Europe and the public opinion of the West, to believe. that Hamas was contained. and that they wouldn't execute such an operation. You know, they had the tunnels.

They knew that there was a possibility at one point of maybe C. You know, coming in from the sea, they thought, well my gosh, they have all these tunnels. The prevailing theory for so long was that they would be coming up from the tunnels. I mean, they had even, and I hope people realize that October 7th wasn't the original date for October 7th. It was supposed to happen in April.

But the plans got out a couple of different ways. The IDF heard of them. One of the ways the plans got out is because Hamas was trying to rope in Hezbollah to launch an attack the same day. And I want you to realize, and I was told this by even people who were in the reserves there, that if. That had happened, there wouldn't be an Israel today because the amount of rockets, they didn't have enough interceptors to fend everything off.

But it was terrorist ego. that actually made that not happen on October 7th.

So, they falsely believed in this containment trap. I wouldn't even say falsely. I think that they believed, and this is a very. Controversial thing I'm going to say. They were trying to satiate.

Some argue they were trying to satiate the Court of Public Opinion. and placing that on a higher priority list than the safety of their own people. I think that's really fair to say. I think it's incredibly fair to say. Especially because on October 7th, It was very evident what was about to happen.

And that's why there were numerous different reports run up the flagpole and that were being dismissed because no way are they gonna do that. Even after Hamas on the other side of the fence had constructed a full-on, like, you know, practice shootout house. Based upon one of the IDF outposts in one of the kibbutzim, that's right, you know, right not too far from Sarot, right there in southern Israel. Even after they discovered that, they thought, oh my gosh, they're never going to do this. They're not going to do that.

There's no way.

Well, way. They did. They did. And the situation manifested, and the response was prolonged because Israel is constrained. by the public opinion of the world.

No one. Absolutely no one on God's green earth. Would judge The United States' response to terrorists, if we lost the equivalent 40,000 innocent lives in one day. That is the per capita equivalent. Imagine a 9-11 multiplied by Do the math.

But Israel is the only nation that is expected to telegraph its every move. to provide Healthcare. to the actual terrorist masterminds, that are plotting to murder them. To give aid to the Gazan government, which is Hamas, that turns around and then sells it on the black market. It's the only nation that is expected to risk higher casualty rates for its own troops because they have to choose risky urban combat.

To minimize civilian deaths while they're picked off by snipers.

Meanwhile, If they defend them, you have Hamas over there who's literally launching makeshift rockets off of civilian rooftops and they use one of the biggest battle hospitals in Gaza City as their headquarters. They hide they bury munitions under literal playgrounds. They use their people as a human shield while IDF kills himself to protect them. And if they defend themselves, if Israel defends themselves more aggressively, they're lambasted. worse than the terrorist who started it and continue all of it.

to current time. It's insane. And all the while, you have all of the morons all across the world that are parodying the same ridiculous Kfabe that's coming out from Hamas. Right. All of the false and debunked astronomical civilian casualties that are mostly caused by their own completely reckless, inept, murderous hands.

It's a country that is literally forced to. To beg for the permission of the United States before they can even so much as talk about sharing innovations with other countries. Look no further than David Sling with Finland. Finland really, really wanted David Sling. David Sling's a really cool thing.

It was developed with the United States. Right? And Finland Wanted David Sling. Why did Finland want David Sling? Because they're constantly bulking up defenses.

This is a NATO country, and they actually got into NATO after, and they were looking at Russia. They're looking at what's happening with Russia. They got it one day after NATO. They wanted David Sling. They had to get permission from the United States, and the United States ended up.

Granting it. The United States could have said no. That's a true story. People don't realize this. They have no idea about any of this.

And it's crazy. It was a containment. And by the way, this is documented. All of this is documented. Israel already admitted that they had a strategy of containment, that it was like it functioned almost as oral tradition.

You manage threats indirectly, you avoid direct confrontation, you maintain acceptable risk levels instead of outright confronting Hamas. I mean that policy produced A very dangerous complacency, but they did it to satisfy the United States and Europe. I mean, Stanford University press study described Israel relying primarily on Hamas to govern Gaza while pursuing a mowing the lawn deterrence policy rather than dismantling the group. And that's true. They provided medical care.

To all kinds of Hamas fighters. I mean, at least 25 actual terrorists that were trying to murder Israeli civilians and IDF were treated in the hospitals after October 7th. I mean to say nothing but of Sinoir. Who literally had a brain operation for a tumor in an Israeli hospital and then was sent back to Gaza, and then he plotted October 7th. It's true.

I mean, the David sling, the U.S. State Department had to officially formally notify. Israel's defense minister of its approval. This is how the FMF works, which we're going to talk about, before that sale could even proceed to Finland. It's all iftar managed.

All of this is. And people don't even understand. They sit here and they run their mouths about this stuff, and they have no idea what they're talking about. I mean, it's crazy. They're only allowed.

I mean, they have to buy U.S. weaponry. They have to buy U.S. weaponry. They have to, that's the foreign military financing.

That's the FMF.

So when we talk about FMF, that's what FMF means, foreign military financing. And it is our agreement with Israel. And by law and by the letter of the law, with that agreement, they have to spend their money on weapons from U.S. defense contractors. By the way, thousands of jobs that has created in the American South.

Thousands. Because of that. And we own all the IP for everything. And by the way, this is a restriction. Do you know how many other of these agreements we have with other countries?

You'd fall off your seat and bust your ass if you knew how many other agreements. Everyone talks about FMF with Israel without realizing that we have it with a ton of other countries. But Israel is singularly the only country that has to go with head in hand and ask for permission and get it officially from the State Department to even talk to another country about sharing information. Oh yeah, but Israel runs US foreign policy. Really?

Huh. Not true. Not true at all. No other FMF recipient has that same, they don't have these same restrictions. They don't.

And this is what's asinine about this. It's absurd to think that. They run our foreign policy. We have run their foreign policy. If I wa look, if this was the other way.

And I'm going to be honest, if we had signed an agreement like this, I told Kane, I'd be in the street writing. People do not know how ridiculously beneficial this whole thing has been for the United States. They don't know. They're This is like a forward deployed entity that is dealing with the threat as a firewall before we have to. And these people, either because they're Islamist simps, or because they hate America.

Won't address that indisputable God's honest fact. I'm not even done with this. Oh, we're going to get into it. Call down the thunder, so here it is. We're going to dive into every single one of these.

We're going to explore the FMF even more deeply. Do you want to know what other restrictions other countries have? None, not like this. Do you want to know who those other countries are? I'll tell you.

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So, welcome. If you missed anything in our previous two hours, and if you didn't listen the previous two hours, you missed a lot. You definitely need to go get the podcast, download it. Also, bookmark chapter and verse over at Substack because a lot of what we talked about, particularly in the first hour. That has to do with the foreign military finance agreement with Israel, just debunking all of the myths.

Getting into the nitty-gritty details that you're not hearing anywhere else.

Well, it's in that hour. And we're also going to turn it into a post. That I have ongoing right now in a draft for substack chapter and verse.

So make sure that you don't miss it. Literally, of all, I put a lot of work into it, and everything is like triple sourced. And I always show receipts. You all know how I do. I've been doing this for a long time.

So just FYI. We've got I mean, a million things to hit. I really want to dive into the AI, but I also made a promise to you first hour that we're going to go through some of this stuff, particularly as it relates to. The big touch points that are happening in the headlines right now.

So, we talked about the vice president, and that's really what the first hour was about, who indicated or was intimating that somehow the United States. Takes its directives on foreign policy from Israel, which is one of the most absurd and absolutely. Easily Just proven false, as I did, things that I've ever heard. It's actually inverted. Israel takes two.

Too many notes from the United States and Europe, the West and Europe on what it should do, which is one of the reasons we got into this. You saw them get into this containment trap for October 7th. Thinking that Hamas wasn't going to do anything. And if they did, it would be the tunnels or the insane. I have to be honest.

If I were Israel. I would have signed the FMF. With the United States, because I have to give up the IP of all my tech when I bring it to the United States to collab and scale it up. I mean, we're in an agreement where they literally cannot buy weaponry from anybody else.

So everyone's like $3 billion. Do you know how many billions we give to Arab states for FMFs? similar agreements with less restrictions, fewer restrictions than what Israel has. It's more than what we give to Israel. And what Israel buys back from us and what we get in terms of R and D is actually more than what we have an FMF agreement for.

I wouldn't have signed it because I, as a sovereign nation, The United States doesn't have to ask anybody. For permission to do a deal. To sell a jet? to collab on tech. Israel does.

Israel has to ask our State Department to sign off on anything like they did with David Sling when they sold that to Finland. Finland asked and we literally had to have like a government review. Everything's ITAR regulated, all of that. People don't realize all of this stuff, so they just repeat the TikTok slot that they read, and they think that that constitutes an informed opinion. You're murdering your free republic by buying into all of this propagandized trash.

Stop it.

So as it concerns the other aspect of this, the McLemore thing. I don't listen to McLeamore because I feel like I don't want to abort my intellect by listening to something so completely trite and it requires like a handful of people to write. And it is. If that's your jam, that's great for you. I just, that's not my jam.

And he's gone out. He didn't just go on stage and say, free Palestine from what? No one asks back. But he didn't say, he ran his mouth about a bunch of stuff and they were talking about genocide. There is no genocide in Gaza and the Russian bots can come at me all you want to.

I will literally outlast all of you. This has never worked, by the way. That does not work with me. Um I'm only susceptible to flattery, and that's true. But criticals, that doesn't work anything with me.

It just makes me more resolved.

So This idea that it's the new BLM, it's the new wear your mask, it's the new 15 days to slow the spread, this idea that they're genocide and cause there isn't. Most of the people talking about there have never been to the Middle East. And as you guys know, I was there, what, last month? Month before last? Was there at the Gazan border?

The parts where Hamas had their headquarters. And we're literally digging underneath the city. By the way, here's the thing that not a lot of people know. Do you think that Hamas, when they're going to dig tunnels under the city, do you think that they do surveys? You know, like here, if you have to put a cable line or a fiber line or whatever in your house.

Say you wanted to run sprinklers. Whatever. You literally have to do a whole survey. If you're going to build a fence, On your property, you have to look at the survey and look at the property lines and all that stuff. Do you think that Hamas does that in Gaza?

I mean, it's rhetorical because the answer is no.

So they dig under these houses. And one of the reasons why And Israel goes in and they have to do all of these pamphlet drops and they even know how to text people on their phones and all this other stuff and make sure the areas are evacuated. But part of the reason, in a lot of these instances, when Hamas fires off something that doesn't work properly, it collapses a building within collapses in on tunnels. No one talks about this. There are people in Gaza who've talked about waking up in the middle of the night thinking their properties are haunted when actually it's Hamas digging tunnels in underneath.

That's a thing.

So, there is no genocide over there, by the way.

Now, there's a genocide in Sudan where Islamists are targeting Christians, but people like McElmore don't care. They don't care about that. I mean, you literally have. I think what's the total? A hundred and I mean, there's a lot.

The genus, there's a lot. You have thousands and thousands of people that have been murdered by Islamists. In fact, since 2005, you have over 200,000 people who have been killed and displaced. Millions actually in Darfur.

So, this is more than 158,000 people have been murdered in this current. attack by Islamists. And they're displacing them. They're starving them, they're going after their infrastructure, but that's, you know, it doesn't involve Jews.

So, of course, people like McLemore, who's a notorious bigot, isn't going to say anything about that. You know, that's just the truth of it. But here's the thing. If there was a genocide, if they were genociding in Gaza, why is it that the IDF has, I think, a crazy high casualty rate for soldiers? Because they have to risk.

Um urban warfare. to go in to minimize civilian casualties. I mean, if it was a genocide, why wouldn't they turn the whole damn thing to glass? No one can answer that question. No one answers that question.

You know, there were people, by the way. Who were saying, oh, well, IDF kills kids, all this stuff. I'm like, they don't, but Hamas does, and the Beabis family would like a word, except they can't because they're dead. And there are people out there going, well, the IDF killed the Bibis kids. You know, the woman, Sherry Bibus, with her two little boys, and you could see her crying, and that was the last anybody ever saw of them alive when Hamas was kidnapping them and putting them into cars.

They were like, well, the IDF killed them.

Well, that's not true. They've done independent forensic reports, and they discovered that the two bodies of the boys actually had no, there was no forensic indication at all whatsoever that they were killed either by gunfire or any kind of strike. In fact, they were strangled to death. That's what the forensic reports, not just by IDF, but also independent foreign. Reports, that's what they discovered.

They were all conclusive.

So that's number one. Number two, aside from that, how did they get in Gaza? How did those kids get into Gaza, geniuses? Oh my gosh, crickets. What?

I can't hear you. Shut up. That's what nobody wants to answer. Nobody wants to answer. Right?

Why is it that you have Palestinians, which I think is a fake term, but I'm going to use it for the purpose of this discussion? And it is fake, by the way. There's nothing, I'm going to say it every time I bring it up. The word Palestinian is fake. It's a made-up ancestry that's designed to retcon history.

There's no such thing as Palestine. There's no such thing as Palestinian, right? It's not supported by thousands of years of iniquity, antiquity. There's no support of it at all whatsoever. In fact, again, Hadron, old dead emperor, Roman emperor, named the land that, out of spite, Following the second Judean uprising, after enemies, their biggest enemies up until that point, that they hadn't been in the area for 200 years and were actually from Crete, the Philistines.

So there you go, that's where it came from. But there are people that are in Judea and Samaria that will actually feel safer under Israeli control than they do under the quote-unquote Palestinian Authority control. There were people in Gaza that would go through the checkpoints and go work in Israel and go back to Gaza because they made more money in Israel because the Gazan economy sucks because of Hamas. Right? Where else do you have a genocide where people live safely under the person genociding their rule?

Oh, no one can answer that question, right? While even serving in government, because there are quote-unquote literal Palestinians that serve in Israeli government. Oh wait, people didn't know that? I bet you McAmore didn't know that. The guy who had to have a handful of people write his songs.

No. Bow. I mean, you realize that you have the same amount of quote-unquote Palestinians living in Judea and Samaria as you do Gaza? Wait, you don't he didn't know that? Oh, oh.

Hmm.

By the way, the legal term, not only does that not even fit in any remote description, but the legal term is not even applicable. This whole idea about starvation, do you realize they all did that? What was it? They looked at the famine, they looked at the starvation, and they discovered that actually Jordan and Egypt, their kids are actually. Hungrier than the ones in Gaza.

Interesting. Oh, but wait, what you got your information from the Gazan Health Ministry? Oh, who wants it? The Gaza Health Ministry, pray tell. Oh, you mean Hamas, the elected body that nobody can have an election because they're murderous and they'll actually win all the elections, really.

They're super popular still. Hmm.

You remember, what was it? Hamas changes their figures all the time. They'll be like, there's 110 Croprillion people that were killed in Gaza. There's a million. They alter their figures about as bad as the gun control advocates do when they have to fudge their numbers.

It's the same thing. But it's defended when Islamists do it because Jews. Be honest. Just be honest. Don't insult all of our intelligence and waste our time, right?

No, there's no starvation deaths over there. There's none of this. I mean, I don't know. If I were Israel, I wouldn't be risking my troops' lives in door-to-door combat and suffer thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands of casualties from close quarter fighting, IEDs, snipers, all of that. Why would any country intent on genocide even approach it that way?

That is the dumbest accusation I have ever heard. I mean, the civilian to combatant casualty ratio is lower than it is in any. Any other urban war. Do you realize that when reporting about the civilian casualty rate at Hamas? includes their enem their combatants.

And that the combatants are actually over three-quarters of it. Oh, you didn't know that? Why? Because you got your information from the Gazan Health Ministry? You mean Hamas?

I mean, we're just asking questions, right? This is ridiculous. I mean, if the intent was genocide, why is it? And this is according to the World Health Organization itself and the United Nations. Why in 2025, February 2025, did Israel Undertake a mass polio vaccination campaign for over half a million Gazan children.

You know, if the goal is genocide. Ask why Hamas didn't care enough about its own population to do it. I love all these people like McAmore that think that you're supposed to care more about the people in an area than the elected governing body that represents them. Wow. How far do you want to go?

I can do this for every three-hour show this week. and next week and the week after. I mean, how much do you want me to go? I'm not kidding. I'm not being rhetorical.

I'm so done with the propaganda. I am so done with the bot infestation and people repeating the same brain-dead nonsense. And I get angry for you all. Because you're swarmed with this stuff. And then you have people like, huh?

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The least you can do is show up hungry. All right, so a couple of other things, and then we're going to dive into some insane stuff. You also had cut five. Congressman Thomas Massey, who was voted out by his voters that he blamed on the Jews, decided not to impeach. He didn't impeach Lloyd Austin for going to MIA.

He's never moved to impeach anybody else, but he decided to go after Pete Hegseth for, I don't know, whatever high crimes. This is cut five. Impeaching Peter Brian Hegseth, Secretary of Defense for high crimes and misdemeanors. Resolved that Peter Brian Hagseth, Secretary of Defense, also referred to as Secretary of War by the Administration, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate. Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America against Peter Brian Hagseth, Secretary of Defense, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Hmm.

What are those high crimes and misdemeanours? He doesn't actually say, he's like a Democrat. He doesn't actually say what the high crimes and And the miss all of the, he doesn't actually give any sort of criminal. He doesn't substantiate any of it with any sort of like a criminal accusation. He doesn't do any of that.

So I'm, you know, I'm just saying. He never brought articles of impeachment for Lloyd Austin under Biden or anybody else, but he decided he's going to do it now. Because he's livid that he was voted out by his own people. And he can't. He can't Come to terms with the fact that they voted him out.

He can't come to terms with it, so he's blaming it. It can't be because he was rejected, because he was a bad congressman for his people at the end. It's because. The Jews, obviously. Which brings us into this other big point.

All right, so this is what we're doing today. I have some guests coming on later and we're going to get into some cultural issues and all of that. But I don't know if you saw what exploded again online last night.

Now, one of the things I always say is what? Everything's online until it isn't. Everything is just an online phenomenon until it's not. And yesterday evening, case in point was more of that. Whenever we talk about the woke Reich, whenever we talk about, and I know some of you are like, oh my gosh, seriously, you guys need to realize how big of a problem this is.

You know, Buckley, towards the end of his professional career, he ended up having to deal with a lot of this similar stuff back pre-Reagan because that's the fight that exploded on the right, and it threatened to derail everything that Republicans have scraped for. People need to also realize that we would be in an absolute hellhole were it not for the conservatives that were trying to hold the line and keep government, keep the rest of the Republican Party from giving away everything under the sun. That said... This um That's been erupting on the right. There is a faction of individuals who are, they believe in big government.

I don't consider them Republicans. They call themselves Republicans, but they're not. It's horseshoe theory manifests. These are people whose ideology is rooted in leftism. They believe that because the left uses government to even the playing field, they have the right to do the same thing.

But because they don't consider themselves leftists, that somehow makes the use of all-powerful government, which can corrupt anything it touches, somehow more virtuous. And so that's the situation we find ourselves in. A big debate erupted, and it all actually first kicked off with the McElmore stuff. As you know, McElmore, he wasn't just getting up on stage and saying, quote unquote, free Palestine, a place that doesn't exist, which is true and not supported by thousands of years of antiquity. And again, just a reminder, it's a name literally given by a dead Roman emperor to a piece of land out of spite as a punishment for the Jews after the Second Judean uprising, right?

So let's get the history correct. And it was actually. Named after one of their biggest enemies that had not even been in the area for two centuries, and they were a seafaring people from Crete, the Philistines.

So, there you go. But Case in point with all of this stuff, the issue of This concert and the stuff that he was saying on stage, he was opening for Ed Sheeran. And full disclosure, I know who these people are, but I don't listen to them. And I think that if I owned a stadium, I wouldn't have McElmore in it because he sucks. I think his music is derivative.

I think it's insane that you have to have a handful of songwriters for something that has, like, you know, that's just insipid. If that's your jam, that's great. Not into it. But You, my point is that he wasn't just getting up on stage and screaming free Palestine. Like he was running his mouth about some crazy stuff to the point where it was actually offending the middle-of-the-road concert goers and it was becoming a liability.

You're in a business. When you're in a business and you're working and you've signed contractual agreements, you have to fulfill the terms of those agreements. You have to be professional. It's not a chance for you to go out and flex your Timu muscles on geopolitical issues that you clearly have no concept of. And so he ended up getting dropped from the tour.

And then Ed Sheeran's band now left him. The openers left. And they're doing everything that they can to like screw over Ed Sheeran and to try to make this as big of a deal as possible. At the same time that this has all been happening, then you had the remarks, which we're going to play coming up at the bottom of the hour from the vice president on Israel. And to set this up, The vice president claimed that we somehow indicated, intimated that there's somehow the possibility that we just have our foreign policy directed by Israel, and that's just hogwash.

So I'm going to address the FMF, everything that you wanted to know, including all of the myths and all of the BS ridiculousness that said we're going to talk about the false claims of genocide in Gaza because genocide in Gaza is the new BLM. Genocide in Gaza is the new 15 days to slow the spread. Genocide in Gaza is the new wear your mask. Genocide in Gaza is the cloud shots actually providing immunity. And if you buy all that, of course you buy the narrative that's established by Hamas and then sent out to the rest of the world.

We are going to Fisk every single last myth on this.

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And I'm a little terrified of it. Don't, don't, we gotta set it up and tease everyone about it so that they come back tomorrow, but. Here's the problem. I hate myself right now because I don't hate it. I don't know.

What is happening? And I'm mad and I don't know. How to deal with this. You're too resistant. You're too resistant.

We're going to talk about it tomorrow. Anyway, all right. Cain today and stupidity. All right, this is actually kind of a flashback cut because Democrats have made it now a focus to talk about AI and how we need to regulate it all. And here's the pinnacle of what Democrats think about AI: Cut 13, Juan.

This is Kamala Harris. Listen to this. AI is kind of a fancy thing. It's, first of all, it's two letters. It means artificial intelligence.

Ultimately what it is is it's about machine learning. And so the machine is taught. And part of the issue here is what information is going into the machine. Oh my gosh. You know, because it's fancy.

It's two letters. Hey, I'm and it's Fancy, and it's about machines. Stupidity is comical. It's just comical. Oh my gosh, save us.

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Now! I don't have the money, but I've got something more valuable. You shall know the truth. The truth? Don't make it free.

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