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I want to dig a little deeper into some of the the moral and cultural issues, and we've often heard that gay is the new black, and then we hear that trans is the new black. And this has been a very, very effective strategy. Over the years, I've read quotes from gay activists by saying, hey, this is a great strategy.
Why? Because as Americans, we are tremendously sympathetic to the civil rights movement, and we have great admiration for men like Martin Luther King, obviously not a perfect man, and there are other issues about different movements that come up that have their blemishes. Not downplaying any of that, but I'm saying overall, look, we have a holiday celebrating the birthday of Martin Luther King, and unless you remain part of that very small minority of racist, bigoted people that wish we still had segregation, or, God forbid, wish we still had slavery, then you're glad for the civil rights movement. You appreciate it, and you probably say, if I lived back then, if I lived days of slavery, I lived days of segregation, I never would have gone along with it, right?
Easier said than done, because we're often children of the times and products of our age, and are more compromised than we might even realize, which is why we get on our faces when we ask God to search our hearts and help us do what's right and honor him. So, the argument that gay is the new black, or trans is the new black, is very, very powerful, because we don't want to be bigoted people. We don't want to repeat the sins of the past, and the courage of the civil rights leaders, and the marches, you know, the march in Selma, or Dr. King's letters from a Birmingham jail, or some of the, you know, the I Have a Dream speech in D.C. in 1963, these things resonate with us to this day, and that's what we want to see. We want to see an equal playing field, a level playing field, an equal opportunity, and if you can just make the transition from black to gay, or from black to trans, it's very powerful. But, but it's not real. It's not accurate.
It's not true. So, so let me explain why gay is not the new black, and trans is not the new black. It does not mean that we dehumanize those who identify as gay, or bi, or trans. It doesn't mean that that we cast them aside as worthless human beings, that we discriminate against them and mistreat them. No, no, they should have equal protection under the law like everyone else. Equal rights, equal protection. It doesn't mean redefining institutions like marriage.
It doesn't mean a boy playing on a girl's sports team, right? A boy has every right to play on a boy's team, and a girl has every right on a girl's team, etc. But everyone should be treated fairly under the law. If the law deals with, everyone should be treated fairly under it. But let me explain why gay is not the new black.
And I've done this for fun. If I've got a multi-racial audience, and I'm asked to talk on one of these subjects, I'll say this. I'll say, I'm going to give you a proof in less than five seconds that gay is not the new black. So everyone's laughing, okay, what's it going to be? So I'll find an African-American in the congregation. I'll say, a man or woman, I say, please stand. And they stand, and I'll say to them, when did you come out as black? Everybody laughs. They get it, it takes a split second, everybody laughs. I said, okay, you can sit down.
It's under five seconds. You don't have to come out as black. You don't have to come out as black. Or come out as Hispanic, or come out as Asian.
You are. Out of the womb, you are. One woman cleverly said, when did you come out as black? She goes, out of the womb. She answered it correctly.
So that's the very first thing. This is who you are. Everybody knows it. It can't be denied. It's your skin color. Or it's your ethnicity. And if it's clear to see you don't come out as that, this is just who you are. Whereas, if you identify as trans, we're not even talking about someone who biologically intersects with a chromosomal or hormonal biological abnormality of some kind.
And they develop differently. We're talking about someone, a man, who according to everything we know is a male, but now he identifies as a female. He has to come out and do that. Or someone who is same-sex attracted, you have to now publicly identify as same-sex attracted. So that's the first thing. That one is inherent, explicit, out of the womb, undeniable, you don't have to come out.
And the other is something that you have to declare. Let's dig a little deeper. There is no moral behavior, sexual behavior, romantic behavior, marital behavior, go down the list, associated with skin color or ethnicity. Zero.
Blacks, whites, reds, yellows, whatever the ethnicity, Hispanics, Asians, you name it. There is no moral behavior associated with being that. However, if you are same-sex attracted, now there are romantic choices that you will make as a same-sex attracted person. There are sexual choices you will make.
There are relational choices you will make because you are same-sex attracted. In other words, there is a behavior associated with it. If you identify as trans, there is a behavior associated with it. The way you dress, the way you present yourself. There is no behavior associated with being black. So, first thing is, one, you wear it, it is who you are, out of the womb, the other you have to come out. Here, we are talking about something that just describes a skin color or ethnicity but has nothing to do with a behavior or a lifestyle.
Whereas, identifying as gay, lesbian, bi, trans, does imply a behavior, a lifestyle. Number three, there is no reputable scientific evidence that anyone is born gay or even born trans. There is no reputable scientific evidence.
If there was, it would have been trumpeted around the world for decades. You say, well, I heard about a gay gene. Yeah, and then further studies could not replicate that or demonstrate that. Well, there are things in the development of the brain. Yeah, but then that was often found to be tied in with homosexual behavior itself as the brain has plasticity and changes and develops over the years. So, and then other studies could not replicate it.
You keep hearing that, looking for this, studying for this, why? Because, even if you go to the most liberal psychological, psychiatric websites, they will tell you, we don't know. There seems to be a mix of nature and nurture. Put another way, predisposition is not predestination.
And correlation is not causation. In other words, it may be that a particular person raised in a certain environment with particular temperament would be more likely to identify as gay or lesbian or bi or trans. But it doesn't mean they were born that way or it's inevitable or it's fixed. In other words, it is not born this way and you cannot change. There is no reputable scientific evidence that says it.
What's interesting is that more and more evidence that comes up over the years is pointing to fluidity and people shifting back at different times in life or going from one thing to another. Lifelong heterosexual finally begins to identify as homosexual or begins to identify as bi. And it's well known that roughly 80% or more of children who identify as transgender, if you don't mess with it and just let them be the way they are, boys or boys, girls or girls, once they get through puberty, at least 80% no longer identify as trans. Many identify as gay, but the great majority, 80% plus, no longer identify as trans. So it's not innate and immutable. It's not born this way and cannot change end of subject.
No, that's not true. Let me give you a fourth reason that gay is not the new black or trans is not the new black. What is the gay or trans equivalent of the slave trade?
Answer me that. We're talking about horrific suffering. We're talking about millions of people kidnapped from their families, from their homes, from their countries, from their communities, forcibly brought over to America and other countries. And many, many, how many millions died in Middle Passage and now sold into lifelong slavery, oppressive slavery, and now having kids born in slavery. Yeah, I understand that gays, lesbians, bi, trans identified people over the years have suffered on certain levels in America. Some have been beaten, some have been killed, some have been rejected by their families.
But without minimizing that, that's a drop in the bucket. A drop in the bucket compared to what African-Americans suffered in our history. To even compare them in any way is immoral and a degrading and a mocking of the suffering of African-Americans in those early centuries right through segregation. And then lastly, when we look at the days of segregation, you did not have black CEOs of major companies like Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, who's openly gay. You did not have nationally loved figures like an Ellen DeGeneres openly lesbian or major political leaders who were openly black.
You didn't have a Barack Obama at that point 50 years ago or 100 years ago. Whereas even in America where supposedly all this discrimination against gays, lesbians, bi, trans, you've got RuPaul, right? Drag queen celebrated with his own show, right? A TV show. There are celebrities that even come out as gay and people question whether it's real, but it's the popular thing to do.
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So call now 1-800-771-5584, 1-800-771-5584 or online at trivita.com. Welcome back, friends, to the broadcast. Michael Brown. I hope you're finding this helpful. If you say, Dr. Brown, I haven't heard you use a lot of scripture today. Well, we've used a ton of scripture in these previous weeks going through what the Bible says on all these issues. And now we're just talking through practical lifestyle issues. How do we work these things out?
How do we think these things through together? I do, though, want to take a moment and take a look at a verse in the Book of Deuteronomy, the 22nd chapter, as we do talk about trans identity. And I mentioned it, I think yesterday I was going to do it and I failed to mention this resource. Let me do it right now. When it comes to trans issues, gay issues, I had the privilege of hosting a documentary for the American Family Association called In His Image.
In His Image. You can go to YouTube and just search for In His Image. It's about an hour and 45 minutes long, so make sure you see that.
Or you can go to InHisImage.movie to sign up with your email and you can watch and find out about extra resources from the American Family Association. It's absolutely free and it has three powerful testimonies intertwined with theologians talking about what the Bible says on these issues, the meaning of male and female. And then commentary on what's happening in society today. But the heart and soul of it, these great testimonies, one from an ex-gay man and the other two from ex-trans individuals. One, a married man who was convinced he was really a woman, had sex change, the whole bit lived as a woman, came to faith, undid what he could, now happily married to a woman as a man, Walt Heyer speaking fearlessly these many years. And then Laura Beth Perry, now happily married, she began to identify as Jake.
She had a hysterectomy to try to be less of a woman. And through the prayers of her mother and others in the church, came to the Lord, wonderfully saved, loves Jesus, happily married. Powerful, powerful testimonies.
These will encourage you. In his image on YouTube or inhisimage.movie, I did a little talk for, I don't know, 40 or 50 pastors online one day in a region that wanted me to talk about these things. At the end we did Q&A. One pastor said, you know, we have a Christian school here and the kids in the middle school have been influenced and embraced trans arguments. Middle school, yeah.
78th grade. And he said, so we showed them the movie in his image and all their hearts shifted back, they're on the right side now. So check it out, it's a free resource. But I want to look with you in Deuteronomy chapter 22. When we looked at what the book of Genesis says and how God created male and female right out of the gate, we saw that this is the foundation. And when you deviate from it, everything changes. Once you deviate from the pattern, you end up with LGBTQ++. I don't say that to mock people, I'm simply saying you end up with an infinite number of gender variations. You end up with Facebook saying, under pressure from gay activists and drag queens, you can choose from 50 different gender identities. If I said to you, I'll give you a million dollars if you can write out 50 different gender identities, how many could you come up with? How many are there?
Who can even figure it out, right? They said you can use up to 10 different ones simultaneously. So you could simultaneously identify as male, female, both, neither, trans, bi, seriously, you could.
Up to 10 simultaneously, picking out of 50. And the activist said, great, it's a good step in the right direction, but it's not complete. Facebook had to add another category, fill in the blank, where you could identify as whatever or whoever you felt to identify. Friends, I kid you not. And we've documented this. I don't mock in saying this.
I pray for the people, I feel bad. But the gentleman who's responsible, I'm looking at my watch here, not because I'm worried about time, but I'm looking at my watch because I have a smart watch and it's telling me what my heart rate is right now. The gentleman who developed the heart monitor for smart watches has identified as a cheetah named Spotacus for over 20 years. Just search it out.
Just search Spotacus heart monitor. See what you find. All right. There are hundreds of thousands of people who identify as furries, as part human, part animal. They identify as furries. Ask your kids in college or high school, if they're in secondary schools, any of their friends or kids that they know in their classes identify as furries. I think you'll be surprised with the answer. They genuinely, to the core of their being, they feel that they haven't been understood, that they're part wolf, they're part tiger, they're part dog, they're part whatever. And they'll have parties where they gather together, they'll wear tails or big ears or outfits and they'll howl and they'll bark and they're finally among people who understand them. Again, I don't say this to mock.
Jesus died for them the same as you and me. But where does it end? If reality is what I perceive it to be, then where does it end? Friends, we went from the idea that there are absolute morals, there's absolute right and wrong to saying, well, it's relative. Morality is relative. What about truth? We went from thinking that truth was absolute. There's absolute truth. Well, no, there's my truth and your truth. Truth is relative. Then it's now bleeding over into reality, that reality is whatever you perceive it to be. So we now have relative morality, relative truth and relative reality.
This is why we must stand and speak with clarity. So, Deuteronomy chapter 22 verse 5 says this, A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God. Now, understand it's Deuteronomy.
Understand that every law in Deuteronomy is applicable to all believers today. However, there are two things. Number one, there is a principle here of violating categories that is found throughout the Bible.
You do not violate these fundamental categories. The crossing over brings destruction and confusion. And two, it is termed an abomination of the Lord your God. I did a search in Hebrew of that phrase, toavat adonai, abomination of the Lord.
Not even the full phrase, Lord your God, to make it even broader. And looked at every single time it occurred in the Bible. And every time it occurred, it was still something that was wrong in God's sight. It was still something that was detestable in God's sight.
It was still something that he was displeased with that was contrary to his order. So, let me say it again. I don't say this to condemn. I've never struggled with same-sex attraction. I've never struggled with gender identity. I can do my best to try to get myself in your shoes, but I can't. If that's been your struggle, I can't. But I can weep. I can have compassion.
I can have a broken heart. I can ask God to share his heart with me. I can ask, you can ask, we can all ask for baptism of love for those who identify as LGBTQ+. And then say, listen, because we love you, we have to hold to the truth. Because we care about what is best for our society, we have to do what is right in God's sight.
Because he made us, he created us, he knows what's best for human thriving. So friends, I encourage you to take hold of these realities. Hearts of compassion, backbones of steel. Reach out to the people with compassion, resist the agenda with courage.
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