More Reflections on the Orlando Massacre

The plot continues to thicken around the terrible Orlando massacre.

So many viewpoints, so much emotion. We'll do our best to set things right today, right here. It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and President of Fire School of Ministry.

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that is continuously pumped Into our culture, and the main source, the wellspring of that toxic homophobia. and transphobia and is religion. Those are the words of gay activist Dan Savage, and I find his words, frankly, toxic and dangerous. And we'll sort that out today on the line of fire. 86634Truth.

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So it's going to be a very, very special time. I appreciate your prayer. Number to call 866-34TRUTH. Are you running into increased hostility? Toward your faith as a follower of Jesus, maybe on social media, maybe in your school, maybe in the workplace, since the tragic Orlando massacre.

Are you running into more people who are blaming you, or pointing a finger at you, or saying it's you Christians who are responsible for this? Because you have dehumanized gays, you have demonized gays, and it's a short jump from there, we're told, to killing gays.

Now the truth be told, The truth be told, the difference between ISIS and the Gospel is the difference between death and life. And the difference ultimately between Islam and Christianity is the difference between Muhammad and Jesus. And these are separate religions, and these are separate faiths, and the expression of radical Islam brings death, the expression of the gospel brings life. And if we say I love you as my neighbor. I care about you as a friend, family member, coworker, but I don't believe that if you marry your partner it's really marriage, because marriage is the union of one man and one woman.

There is no logical connection between that and murdering someone. There is no logical connection between that whatsoever. You may have a neighbor who is a Christian and they get divorced. And then they get remarried. And you tell them, listen, I don't believe you had grounds for divorce, and I don't believe your new marriage is valid.

Is there any connection between that? You're going to murder the person? No, of course not. God forbid. But It is an atmosphere right now.

whereas we do our best to reach out to those who are hurting, unconditionally, and show them the love of God, and show them neighborly love. At the same time, there is an onslaught coming against us. I documented it. And yet another article I've written. A possibly gay Muslim terrorist slaughters gays.

And stray Christians get blamed. You can read that exclusively on stream.org today. I also wrote and sent out yesterday a Christian message to LGBT Americans. You may be mad at Christians, but look at Jesus. Look at Jesus.

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Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Can we talk about Islam and terror targeting the LGBT community? What about all the bills that were introduced by the Christian right?

American Christians. under the premise of religious freedom. Anti-gay sentiment has only grown stronger in the face of progressive change and is going to continue to grow. And that's why I'm concerned with marking this just as an act of Islamic terror on American soil. This is an attack against the LGBT community and should be viewed as such.

Don't be fooled by the rhetoric you will hear in the media this week as people are going to definitely use this to push their own agendas. That's Hassan Piker of the Young Turks pushing his own agenda. Let me say it again. There is no connection whatsoever. between saying Christians should have religious freedom, and a pastor should not be forced to perform a same sex wedding, There's no connection between that and going into a nightclub and murdering Gace.

There is no connection whatsoever. There is no logical connection. You have to be sick. You have to be given over to sin. You have to be serving Satan and rejecting God and rejecting the Gospel and rejecting the Bible to go murder somebody.

And yet we're going to hear this over and over. And over. And what makes it more unfortunate, whereas at this moment, when Christians are trying to reach out to gay neighbors and friends and saying you're upset, you're angry, and you may be upset with me, but I do care about you and I do love you, and I want to point you to Jesus. At this very moment, when we're seeking to do that, there is this onslaught coming our way. And I've got example after example in my latest article: a possibly gay Muslim terrorist slaughter's gays, and straight Christians get blamed.

So, here, Breitbart reports early Sunday morning. Before the world learned the identity and religion of the man who murdered up to 50 people in Orlando, in Orlando, Florida, Gay Bar, a law enforcement expert for NBC went on the air on NBC and hinted that the shooter was probably a Christian. and a member of a white hate group. I mentioned this yesterday. Then, of course, they find out: well, that's not the case, that's not what happened.

This is a radical Muslim pledged allegiance to ISIS.

So CNN commentator Sally Cohn tweeted out, you either support the dignity and equal treatment of all LGBT people or you support their systematic dehumanization.

So hang on, hang on. If I say you are entitled to protection, just as every other human being is. And you are a fellow human being for whom Jesus died, created in God's image, fallen and flawed like the rest of us. But I don't believe that a biological male should be using a lady's bathroom. I don't celebrate Bruce Jenner as the woman of the earth.

That is not systematic dehumanization. She tweeted out, How about we just blame hateful anti-gay extremism in any religion in any form it takes, which means that if you do not affirm and celebrate the goals of gay activism, you are guilty of hateful anti-gay extremism. And she tweeted out throughout history extremist groups have used religion to preach and rationalize hate. Yes, so when we preach love and truth that's going to be called hate. And Jesus was hated for speaking the truth in love.

In fact, darkness hates light, so there are plenty of things Christians speak about that others don't like. And we would say atheists need Jesus, and Jews need Jesus, and Hindus need Jesus, and Muslims need Jesus. They don't like that. They feel their non-religion or their religion is fully sufficient and are offended by our message. In fact, Christians are the ones being persecuted and slaughtered around the world.

by the hundreds of thousands. ACLU lawyer Chase Strangio stated, You know what has gross your thoughts and prayers and Islamophobia after you created this anti-queer climate? Again, Christians are to blame. How about this?

Somebody posted on Facebook, please try and understand we gay man, we are all marked for death by the libertarian Christofascists. The LGBTQ community is merely being targeted first because it represents the most visible form of resistance to their authority. Christio fascists. What do you know? In Canada, this headline.

After Orlando, time to recognize that anti-gay bigotry is not religious freedom. Thinkprogress.org. The headline to Zach Ford's article read: Conservatives try to scapegoat Islam to avoid responsibility for perpetuating anti-LGBT violence. That's just rubbish! That is absolute rubbish.

Islam is not being scapegoated. Radical Islam is murderous. I'll say it again, the difference between the gospel and Islam is the difference between life and death. Radical Islam is murderous. When radical Muslims are throwing gays off buildings in Syria there that that is not connected to Christian beliefs.

And and this Muslim who himself is possibly gay, from what we hear, from from various reports from his ex-wife, from old friends, from people at the gay bar, from people that knew him from a gay dating app. Yeah. This this murderer was not moved by Christian values. He was not moved by Christian opposition to redefining marriage. He was moved by whatever hatred stirred him, whatever his motives were, and whatever his Islamic theology helped fuel.

That's what moved him. There are tens of millions of conservative Christians in America. There are God knows how many of them who own weapons, who own guns. And yet, they're not going out trying to mow down gays. Why?

Because The teaching of Jesus teaches us to give life, not take it. Again, we're not talking about war where a nation is invaded and we fight back. We're not talking about defending your family if someone breaks in your home. We're talking about murder. The teaching of Jesus is is diametrically opposed to murder.

The New Testament says no murderer has eternal life in him. Jesus says that if you're angry without cause, you're a murder in your heart. This is renounced in the New Testament. Paul taught us to overcome evil with good. Peter said, if we revile, don't revile back.

Follow the example of Jesus. Whereas Muhammad was a warrior and Muhammad beheaded people. Jesus died on the cross for sinners. That's the gospel. The fact that we stand for moral responsibility, the fact that we differ with the goals of gay activism, the fact that we don't want a 15-year-old boy in a locker room with our 15-year-old daughter, does not mean we want to kill transgenders or homosexual men and women.

God forbid. These types of headlines, this type of rhetoric is dangerous in itself. And it wouldn't surprise me if it provokes anti-Christian violence. Headline on the flagship, gay website advocate.com declared, Orlando is an extension of the marriage battle bathroom wars.

So there you have it. Because you're uncomfortable with laws where any man could walk into a girl's room and say that he's a woman, because you're uncomfortable with that, somehow. You are now related to the radical Islamic massacre of gays in a bar in Orlando. This just dangerous rhetoric, friends. And I will continue to sound the alarm about this as long as necessary.

Get all the information, circulate this, be equipped. My latest article on stream.org: A possible gay Muslim terrorist slaughter's gaze and straight Christians get blamed. It's chilling to read this, but it is necessary to read.

Now, Let me renounce something plainly. I did yesterday. Let me do it again today. Joey Grib clip number 11. Pastor Roger Jimenez or Jimenez, Sacramento Baptist pastor.

Someone said he's um. Spiritually related to Stephen Anderson, the Phoenix pastor whose views we renounced yesterday. But listen to what he has to say, clip 11. Hey, are you sad that fifty pedophiles were killed today? Um, no, I think that's great.

I I I think that helps society. You know, I think Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight. It is unnatural for a man to be attracted to another man. The tragedy is that more of them didn't die. That's sick.

That is sick. That is demanded. That is not the gospel. Every Christian I know anywhere in the world would repudiate that and be sick to his or her stomach. over that.

The few people I know that would agree with that need to meet Jesus. need to have an encounter with God. And I wonder how much sin there is in that pastor's church. And I wonder what his thought life has been over the last six months. And I wonder in God's sight, with God's standards, if he's thought or done anything worthy of death, as the rest of human beings certainly have.

Adultery is punishable by death in the Old Testament, is it not? Adultery, punishable by death, In the Old Testament, right? And Jesus said that if you have lusted after a woman, you've committed adultery in your heart, or lusted after someone, you've committed adultery in your heart. How many have done that? Huh?

Does that mean that we should all be dead? The whole world would be wiped out in a moment if this pastor's sentiments were right, starting with him. And many others. May God have mercy. We repudiate that.

We renounce that. That's not the gospel. Oh God of burning, cleansing flame. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown.

Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. It does appear that Uh at the last minute. He announced commitments to ISO.

Two. There is no evidence so far that he was in fact directed. By forward, there also at this state is no direct evidence that he was part of a larger plot. In that sense, it appears to be similar to what we saw. in San Francisco, but we don't yet know.

That was our President speaking. And there's Article in the New York Post. That is excerpted in uh Jerusalem News Now. Um Omar Mateen called 9-11 to pledge his fealty to ISIS as he was carrying out his mass murder in Orlando Sunday. 12th June 2016.

12 hours later, the President of the United States declared, quote, we have no definitive assessment of the motivation of Omar Martin, but we know he was a person filled with hate.

So I guess the president thinks Mateen didn't mean it? Here again, and horribly, we have an unmistakable indication that Obama finds it astonishingly easy to divorce himself from a reality he doesn't like. The reality of the Islamist terror war against the United States and how it is moving to our shores in the form of lone-wolf attacks. He called it terror, which it is. But using the word terror without eliminating a defining adjective is like a doctor calling a disease cancer without making note of the affected area of the body.

If he doesn't know where the cancer is and what form it takes, he cannot attack it effectively and seek to extirpate it.

So determined. Is the president to avoid the subject of Islamist ISIS-inspired or ISIS-directed terrorism? That he concluded his remarks with an astonishing insistence that, quote, we need the strength and courage to change our attitudes toward the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community. That's just disgusting. There's no other word for it.

despite these being the words of our President, I I must I must agree with that. Facebook has shut down the page of Pamela Geller, Stop the Islamization of America. Arout 7 from Israel reports following the terrorist attack on Orlando, Florida Facebook was quick to delete Stop Islamization of America, a group with over 50,000 members run by outspoken free speech activist Pamela Geller, known for long standing struggle against radical Islam. The message sent by Facebook administrators' groups stated that the aforementioned Facebook page violated the terms of use. Quote, among other things, groups that are hateful, threatening, or obscene are not allowed.

According to Geller, the group was established six years ago, but only now has the page been taken down. Quote, the group has been live since 2010. This is an outrage. Sharia enforcement in the wake of jihad slaughter, wrote Geller on her website.

Now, I haven't seen the website. I I have not uh looked at it over that Facebook page, I was not familiar with it. But Dennis Prager has has rightly said this. That if the shooter had been a Christian, There would be massive outrage across the country against Christianity. Come on, think of it for a minute.

Think of it. The shooter is a radical Muslim. possibly gay himself. And yet Christians are being blamed for the murders. And people are loath to point your finger at Islam or even radical Islam, even to mention it by name.

As Dennis Prager said, if the government from Orlando were a Christian, Uh then then you absolutely better believe. you would be hearing day and night. every kind of attack on Christianity. We're hearing it anyway, despite the fact that this was a Muslim. And he said that the most obvious difference, if he said it was a Christian versus a Muslim, is that the media and the Democrats were to blame Christians for the mass slaughter whereas they do everything in their power to exonerate Muslims.

Indeed, Prager says, as many have noted, President Obama and the entire Democratic Party leadership have long refused to even use the terms radical Islam or radical Islamists.

So he says, let's imagine that a gay-hating Christian murdered 49 people and badly injured 53 others in the gay nightclub in Florida. America would be inundated with attacks on religion, Christians, Christianity, and... The Bible, and he gives examples to support that. It's absolutely true.

So here's what we have to do. Here's what we have to do. And I wrote an open letter or a message to LGBT Christians, excuse me, to LGBT Americans last night. We have to Demonstrate love regardless of how we're perceived. When you are somebody's neighbor, And they see you and they talk to you.

Maybe you're demonized by others, but people who get to know you, they know who you really are. They know who you really are.

So I encourage you be a neighbor. Be a friend. Don't put on an act. Demonstrate the real love of Jesus. I played a clip yesterday, and it was from a man, a presumably gay man, just in a state of shock and agony after the murders there.

And he was saying, Look, I'm not very religious, but whatever religion you're from, send the prayers for us. We need help, we need help. And I'm thinking, wow. Instead of right now being furious with all religions, He's saying we need help, we need hope. And I had on yesterday, in the second half hour of the broadcast, Tammy Shea.

She lived a bisexual and then exclusively lesbian lifestyle, frequented that Gay Barn Orlando two to three times a week before the Lord wonderfully saved her, delivered her from drugs, changed her life. She's wonderfully, happily married to a student in our ministry school. And she shared her story and shared her love for those who identify as LGBT and especially her old friends in Orlando. And I thought, you know, I've got to send a message out. and to say listen, You you may hate me right now.

You may think, people like you, Mike Brown, you're part of the problem. It's your stances, it's your views, it's your books, it's your articles, it's your radio broadcasts, it's your Facebook page. It's people like you, your videos, your materials, people like you who. who created that atmosphere in Orlando.

Well, listen. If you listen to me for the next hundred years, read everything I've written, listen to every word I've spoken, you will come away loving gays and lesbians. And saying Homosexual practice is sinful. Marriage is the union of a man and woman. But Jesus laid down his life for people.

I'm going to lay down my life for gays and lesbians and be a friend and a neighbor. That's what you'd hear. That's what you'd come away with. That's what you'd end up doing. But I understand that many are not seeing us in this way now.

And there is a lot of hate and anger directed towards us. My position was this. Maybe you look at us as hypocrites. Maybe you've been hurt by the church or organized religion, but Jesus will never hurt you. Jesus will never hurt you.

And Jesus is not a hypocrite.

So look Him. And in my Christian message to LGBTQ Americans, I quote. the words of Jesus and his call to come to him. All you who labor and are heavy laden, he'll give rest. He's the bread of life, that he's the way, the truth, and the life.

That if we deny ourselves, take up the cross, he will receive us. And I urge people to call out to him and to surrender the entirety of their lives to him, and he will lead and guide and direct.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Welcome friends to the line of fire. This is Michael Brown, your voice of moral sanity. and spiritual clarity.

In the midst of a society and chaos in the church, all too often an Compromise 866-34. Truth is the number to call. You know, I haven't even. Try to take phone calls in a day and a half now. But if you'd like to weigh in on what's going on.

866-348-7884. Matthew Vines, young, quote, gay Christian, activist, author. Has written an article in Time magazine, What Christians Must Do in the Wake of Orlando.

Now, I actually reached out to Matthew. He is not a fan of mine or a friend of mine. I'd gladly be his friend. But I did reach out to him and sent him my article, Christian Message to LGBT Americans. I sent it by way of.

uh Twitter directly to him But let's see. No, I don't think he's responded, but perhaps he'll read it. I still want to reach out to him if I can. And of course, I believe he's very deceived in so much of what he's doing. But, but.

The Lord can work on him and make him a champion of righteousness. And I appreciate his zeal and his gifts in the midst of his error.

So, what he says, what Christians must do in the wake of Orlando, mourn with us and don't qualify your. Lament. All right. Um He he says uh Basically, please seek not to take offense at LGBT people's anger, even if someone is directed toward you. Yeah, I I appreciate that, and I'm not offended in the least.

I do understand it. I do understand where people are coming from and why. And that's where I wrote my article starting there and saying, I know you're angry. And I know you view me as part of the problem.

So let's get past me, and let's look at Jesus. And then, yeah, over time I can show them how I'm part of the solution, not part of the problem, but that's fine, they feel that way. He said, second, please mourn with us and please do not erase the fact that the shooter targeted people for death because they were lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. Uh yeah, I I think it's all tragic. I've also said that the attack on Orlando was an attack on all Americans.

So um Yeah, I understand that. And I'm not one of those say, well, see, they're gay, they deserve that. Yeah. And then he says, lastly, please avoid qualifying your lament in any way. To insist on saying that you disagree with same-sex marriage as part of your statement about murdered LGBT people is dehumanizing.

It communicates that even in our deaths, we're still an issue to be debated rather than people of inviolable dignity and worth. This is not an acceptable time to mention your opposition to marriage equality. See, here's the problem, though, Matthew. Why is this an acceptable time for you to push your agenda? Isn't this the wrong time to push your agenda?

Isn't this the the wrong time? To throw terms like quote marriage equality or to start about talking about being in a same-sex marriage hosted by a church in the Bible Belt. In other words, Every single moment that agenda is being pushed. And and Any time a statement is made. That is unqualified.

we mourn with you and your loss, we get attacked as hypocrites.

Well, who are you? We don't need your prayers. We don't need your statements. We don't need.

So we're damned if we do. We're damned if we don't. And if we say, if we're trying to underscore the fact that even our differences. Even our differences, we care about you. That's what we're saying.

So you take it as qualifying. I say that's a way of saying the care is really there. It would be like an Orthodox rabbi, and there was a tragedy with a Messianic Jew. And the rabbi says, Everyone knows we had differences with this man. But he's a fellow Jew, and we love him, and mourn his loss.

That to me is commendable. That to me is not qualifying. That to me is sharpening the strength of the statement and making it even more clear. All right, we'll be right back. Go to your phones.

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Michael Brown. I want to play a few more audio clips for you. Before that, I want to go to the phones: 866-348-7884. And one of the things that was really important for me to recognize right at the start, when God laid it on my heart back in 2004, to begin to get involved with gay lesbian issues, and the word that God spoke to me was: reach out and resist, reach out to the people with compassion, resist the agenda with courage. is that the vast majority of those who identify as LGBT are are not activists.

are not activists. And and they they are simply want to live their lives and say, just let me live. They're not activists. They're just trying to live their lives like everybody else and just have respect for who they are. and respect for how they live.

And respect for their relationships. That's the vast majority. They may agree with what activists say or back what activists say, but the vast majority are not activists.

So when you have radical activists saying radical things and some very, very ugly things, that's not your average. LGBT person, although many. in the midst of pain and anger. And right now may be expressing things more intensely than normal.

So what do we do? We understand how we're misperceived. or understand that if if I tell someone I don't believe your marriage is valid. They feel that that's an assault, and that's an attack, and it's dehumanizing. I understand that.

I understand that. Listen. As a Jewish follower of Jesus, there are religious Jews who think of me in a lot worse terms than dehumanizing I could say. And there are some militant atheists who think of us in very harsh and ugly terms and across the board. Look, different people from different backgrounds have different views.

And in the midst of this world, we live together. In fact, In fact, uh yeah, I'll I'll play this in a moment. I was I was interested to see What with Jimmy Fallon Said tonight's show with Jimmy Fallon. We'll play that in a moment. And I was I was uh I was surprised to see what he had to say.

Given that, I mean, he's an entertainer more than anything, and that presumably he'd be very much on the left on these issues. All right, to the phones in Charlotte, Brian, welcome to the line of fire. Thank you very much, Dr. Brown. I just wanted to piggyback on all of your sentiments.

And again, you being a man that I highly respect as a theologian. modern day theologian. I think that you're doing your best. And I want to commend you for exactly what you just said God told you to do, to reach out but resist. I I would like to hear you elaborate.

on the biblical text In which when Jesus was confronted. with the adulterous woman. And it was his last words to her. after all of her accusers walked off. And if it can, if I'm in error, please let me know.

But if it can be applied to the community, the LGBT community as a whole, viewing such an atrocity And they would have to be confronted By what they would deem as accusers, being us in the community of believers. And then I'll just take your answer off air. Thank you very much.

Okay, great. Yeah. And thank you, Brian, for the question. Thank you. I appreciate it.

Yeah, that that we would be looked at as the accusers. And and the condemners.

So there's some dispute about exactly where the account, John chapter 8, verses 1 through 11, where that actually fits in the Gospels, and is it part of John or part of Luke, or where should it go? But the account is well known that when there's a woman caught in the act of adultery, Remember, Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill he brought things to a higher standard, and yet. with the the condemnation our sins bring. He gives forgiveness. He came to seek and save that which is lost.

He came to give his life as a ransom.

So Jesus says, I don't condemn you. But go and sin no more. What we need to do is also think of the words of Jesus in Luke 13, where Jesus is asked about certain people, certain sinners, and are they worse than everybody else? And look at what Jesus says. It's not the expected answer, but when does Jesus give the expected answer?

There were some present on that occasion who told him about the Galileans, whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. He answered them, Do you think these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered these things? No, I tell you, but unless you repent, you'll all perish as well. Love it's everybody deserves death. Everybody deserves death.

Or those 18 who were killed when the Tower and Siloam fell on them? Do you think they were worse offenders than all the others who live in Jerusalem? No, I tell you, but unless you repent, you will all perish. as well. Everybody in Jerusalem.

Everybody in Galilee. Everybody on The Earth. That's that is the bottom line. That this is what's going to happen to all humanity. We've all sinned.

And the wages of sin is death. But at the feet of Jesus there is forgiveness for all. At the feet of Jesus there is forgiveness for all. And if we open our hearts and say, God, have mercy on me, a sinner, no matter what our past is. No matter who we are, no matter what we've done, there is redemption and forgiveness.

Now, here's the big problem, though. Joey, clip number six. This is a gay activist named Brian Murphy. He's on a video on YouTube expressing his feelings. I don't know how widely followed he is, but I'm sure he expressed the sentiments held to by others.

And uh This is what he has to say. Clip number six. And I can just see it now, trying to pass the buck off on radical Islam when Christianity has dominated American politics and culture from the very beginning. It was a church that taught me to hate myself. It was Christian politicians who denied me my rights.

It was Christian police officers who invaded Stonewall. If you lead a church, it's your duty to proclaim loudly and clearly that queer lives are worthy, that trans bodies are whole, that gay sex is good. And if you go to a church that doesn't do those things, leave it. Leave it today. There is too much at stake to support anything that doesn't work for justice for all oppressed people.

We're talking about queer folks today, but remember Muslims and Jews and other religious minorities. Remember women and poor folks and immigrants. We are all in this together. Hmm. Where'd he start?

Where'd he start? Let's grab a few things there. Number one. Yeah, this nation was founded on Christian principles in so, so many ways. And And It's those Christian principles that brought us liberty.

And it's those Christian principles that says that everyone has the right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness. Yeah, those Christian principles are the bedrock of our freedoms. And with those Christian principles and Christian politicians today, please tell me where are we throwing gays off buildings like ISIS is doing in Syria? going into nightclubs and mowing everyone down. uh uh gay and lesbian nightclub we're we're not because We're Christian, and Christians don't do that.

And if someone does it as a Christian, it's a complete aberration. It is a 100% aberration. It would be like someone, like a gay activist, saying, Because I'm a gay activist, I'm now marrying someone of the opposite sex and renouncing homosexuality. That would be a complete contradiction of who they are. It'd be the complete contradiction of a follower of Jesus go out and murder Gates.

That's why we have these differences. With civility. in the in the midst of our differences. To say it was it was It was Christian cops who raided Stonewall. The Stonewall raid had to do with mafia issues and other things, and that according to gay historians.

And they're all Christians now. All the cops that were doing their job are Christians. And the ones that then came under violent assault from transgenders and others, those were the bad guys somehow? The ones enforcing the law were the bad guys? And if a church tells you the truth about homosexuality, don't run from there, run to it.

You need that. You need to hear. The truth Uh listen to Jimmy Fallon. We'll grab uh clips 9 and 10. Listen to what he said.

in the aftermath of the Orlando massacre. I know everyone is angry right now and not really knowing how to react, but this is a time where people are looking to us as a country and how we will react. This country was built on the idea that we do not all agree on everything. That we are a tolerant, free nation that encourages debate, free thinking, believing, or not, in what you choose. Wow.

Alright, so he didn't get up there. Christian. bashing. Then he continues. Let's listen.

We need to get back to being brave enough to accept that we have different opinions, and that's okay, because that's what America is built on. The idea that we can stand up and speak our minds and live our lives and not be punished for that. or mocked on the internet. or killed by someone you don't know.

Now, as long as he extends that both ways, extends that to Christians, that they have that right as well. By the way, the famous rhythm guitarist with The Grateful Dead, Bob Weir. According to him, believers in homophobia and ISIS share the same Hatred. Yep.

So Christians who love their gay friends, family members, and neighbors, who weep for them, who are true friends and care for them and do their best to be a blessing in their lives, but don't agree with homosexual practice. They are just like ISIS. Boy, God help these folks. Angel World. Oh God of burning, cleansing flame, send the fire.

It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Welcome back, friends, to the Line of Fire broadcast 866-348-7884 is the number to call.

You know, I I I feel like writing an article a minute There's so much going on, but I've written three articles already since the massacre. The first, right and wrong reactions to the Orlando massacre. The second, a Christian message to LGBT Americans. The third, a possibly gay Muslim terrorist slaughters, gays, and straight Christians get blamed. You can read all of them by going to askdr.

Brown, ASKDRBrown.org, and just right on the homepage, looking at the latest articles. Also, look at the latest videos. There's the beautiful testimony of Tammy, who was on the air with me yesterday, used to frequent that same gay bar, lived as a lesbian, wonderfully transformed by Jesus today. All right, let's go to the phones. Alberta, Canada, Sheldon, welcome to the line of fire.

Oh, thank you, Dr. Brown. I wanted to draw your attention to an article that had been published on CBC. uh Can the Canada's national broadcaster. and uh written by Neil MacDonald.

And um, I think it's Uh A friend in Canada sent it to me yesterday, and I cited it in my article on stream.org, a possibly gay Muslim terrorist slaughters, gays, and straight Christians get blamed.

So first tell us who Neil McDonald is, and then go ahead from Canada, tell us about this article.

Well, he's a political journalist. He mainly does stories about the U. S. I think he's based in Washington. And he begins the article by, I guess, describing white guilt and male guilt for misogynist killings.

In the U.S., we don't have Nearly as many mass shootings in in Canada, I think, because of our Or gun laws, but um he, I think, is trying to create a sense not only for Christians but for Muslims and Jews. also a sense of guilt over these particular shootings. and saying that we have created a climate that is ripe for this type of activity. And then he goes on to quote near the tail end of the article: the president of the Southern Baptist Convention. Dr.

Richard Land, who he claims had told him to his face. that uh that uh homosexuality should be outlawed. I had called in they had a national call-in show on the CBC. And I had said that naming and blaming religious groups is only going to create more problems for our society. But I did raise the question.

I know that you're show is not focussed on political issues, but uh about tolerance and freedom of speech. I am curious, Dr. Brown, if you do feel that given the West Ba Borough Baptist churches of the world and so forth, Do you think that it might be time for politicians to consider limiting free speech. and limiting the ways that um for example uh rhetoric might be contributing to this type of circumstance. Yeah, an excellent question, Sheldon.

I'm glad you called in on that call-in show. By the way, Richard Land is president of Southern Evangelical Seminary now, but a respected Southern Baptist leader. And it's possible. It's possible. that he was talking about Lawrence v.

Texas. When sodomy laws were overthrown in America, they were not enforced at all.

So these were across America that you could not commit sodomy, man with man, etc. But these were not enforced.

However, Justice Scalier rightly said that if you find a constitutional right to this, everything else will follow. And you'll then redefine marriage and so on and so forth.

So he's exactly right.

So I agree. That it would be better that it was on the books. As something to stop the wrong slide, but not that people actually arrested for that any more than they're arrested for adultery. If we were arresting people for adultery or fornication, then yeah, arrest them for homosexual acts as well, but we're not. That's not the state of morality in America or in Canada, and that could obviously easily go the way of an attempted theocracy.

But as far as freedoms, especially in America, freedom of speech, religion, conscience, our nations built on these freedoms. And if someone's speech could lead to acts of violence legitimately in other words, if someone is getting up in a mosque or in a church or in a synagogue saying you need to go out and kill these people, Then that, yeah, something that is inciting to acts of violence. by all means, that should be cracked down on. And I've been told, I can't verify it, but I've been told that the the FBI was really hamstrung in its ability to investigate Omar Mateen and to investigate others like him because they've been restricted in so many ways by the Obama administration and fear of offending Muslims. And even you can't reference this or this or this that would be Islamic.

So we could do a much, much better job if we just had a more sane and sober outlook.

So I'm all for monitoring what's taught in a mosque. If that mosque has extremist connections, yeah. Let's hear what's being preached, and if they're preaching some dangerous um rhetoric that is leading uh calling for violence Against others in America, yeah, then that should be cracked down on. That's very different from these different expressions.

Now, look, Westboro Baptist is a tiny congregation with, I don't know, 20 years. 20, 30 people, I don't know how many it is, but it's this tiny congregation. It has no real affiliation with any. uh uh Christian group in America of of any substance or size. And uh but even so They rejoice, they're perverted in their deception.

They rejoice in the deaths of American servicemen, saying we have quote a fag army. They rejoice in in Improvised explosive devices that blow men and women up, or soldiers serving overseas. They rejoice at the funerals. It's despicable. It's utterly despicable.

They rejoice now at the slaughter in Orlando. But. they do actually have the right to say these things. Uh and if we start taking away certain liberties even when they are utterly perverted. by a sick group like this.

then it has a chilling effect on the entire nation. Especially in America where these things are foundational to us. And the problem is, again, it goes in the wrong direction. and the censorship will ultimately go in one way. And that could be very dangerous.

Right now, I would be more in favor of Donald Trump as president than Hillary Clinton on these issues. I have grave concerns about a Trump presidency in other ways. I certainly wouldn't vote for Hillary. But I do think that Donald Trump would not go the way of attacking Christians Over what radical Muslims do. Anyway, Sheldon, out of time, but thank you, sir, for the call and your question.

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So many viewpoints, so much emotion. We'll do our best to set things right today, right here. It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and president of Fire School of Ministry.

Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRUTH. That's 866-34TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. You know, back in 2011, I published A Queer Thing Happened to America.

It was based on research interaction I'd had over the previous six years or so. It's almost 700 pages, 1500 endnotes. In fact, with a normal font and the endnotes, it would be well over 700 pages. And I have a whole chapter on hate speech. And what I was able to document already in 2011.

And I could have written 700 pages on it instead of maybe 50 or 60 pages on it in this particular chapter. Was how the Those of us who hold to biblical morality, those of us who hold to conservative moral values. Are branded haters and are vilified in the ugliest imaginable terms. This is Michael Brown. You are listening to the line of fire, 866-348-7884.

So for example For example, uh Let's say you're sitting there calmly talking to someone. And you differ with them on a point, and then they start yelling and screaming at you. I mean, yelling and screaming at you. Literally, yelling and screaming. Say, you need to control your temper.

It's like, well, hang on, I'm sitting here quietly. I'm sitting here quietly, and you're the one yelling and screaming.

So here we simply hold to God's standards and God's ways in a loving, Christian way, and we get called haters. And they could scream, vilify us, curse us out in the ugliest possible terms. But because they're, quote, the victims, where the victimizers anything goes.

So let's just post it on our Facebook page moments ago. We have a picture of the murderer from Orlando. We have citations from Quran and Islamic tradition about death penalty and homosexuality. And the post says, if you're a Muslim and you disagree with this interpretation, tell us why. Tell us why, and it's posted honestly.

Let's hear from other Muslims who differ with this.

So Gentlemen, post this. Religious people like you who promote hatred towards the LGBT community is no less than the murderer on the photo. You are disgusting. Yeah, Matt, we can certainly remove that comment. But of course, that's what we hear day and night.

And if you haven't read my latest article, A Possibly Gay Muslim Terrorist Slaughters Gays and Straight Christians Get Blamed, I'd encourage you to read it. It's up on thestream.org. If you go to my website, askdrbrown.org, you'll find a number of recent articles. One last night that I wrote, A Christian Message to LGBT Americans. I've got a special guest that's going to be joining me shortly to talk about Islamic reactions to the Orlando massacre.

But, Joey, grab clip number eight. This is interesting. This is interesting. This is the new mayor of London, and he is. He is Muslim.

Yeah. He's Muslim. People are now calling it Lundanistan.

So listen listen to this, clip eight. Sadiq Khan, London's first Muslim mayor, announced Monday that body-shaming advertisements will no longer be allowed in London's public transport. Khan said, As the father of two teenage girls, I am extremely concerned about this kind of advertising, which can demean people, particularly women, and make them ashamed of their bodies. It is high time it came to an end. Recently, advertisements featuring bikini-clad models in the British city of Birmingham were spray-painted over.

Birmingham has a high Muslim population. Isn't isn't that Interesting.

Now on the one hand, I'm I'm glad to to To have a change in thought where we don't just sexualize women. And that when you go to the grocery store, you're not confronted with scantily clad females in the checkout counter in the magazines. And it's great that women are not put under pressure, they don't have to look like that. But that's... Can you imagine if a Christian mayor tried to do that, the uproar there'd be?

Interesting, what's coming next for England? It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRUTH. Here again is Dr.

Michael Brown. Thanks, friends, for joining us on the line of fire. This is Michael Brown. Number call 866-6666. Three, four.

I'm speaking with Deborah Weiss. She has been on the air with us previously. As one who is on the front lines of dealing with Islamic issues in America, she's an attorney and she is an expert on Islamist stifling of speech. She's written several books, including The Organization of Islamic Cooperation's Jihad on Free Speech and the Council on American Islamic Relations, its use of lawfare and intimidation. Her website, vigilancenow.org.

Deborah, it is great to have you today on the line of fire. Thanks so much for having me, Dr. Brown. You are obviously watching with interest. What has happened since the terrible tragedy in Orlando early Sunday morning.

And I imagine as soon as you heard of who was involved and potential connections to ISIS and radical Islam, that you already had a sense of what was coming in the media.

So, based on your experience, what did you expect to happen and what has happened so far? Actually, it's funny that you worded it that way because That's exactly right. I had immediately posted on my Facebook: this is what you can watch for, and that's what happened. And what I said was, That the narrative will come out, that it takes. And that it's uh homophobia is the same.

Tell you what, Deborah, sorry. I've just got to just got to interrupt. We've got a bit of a bad connection. It's very, very hard to hear you.

So, Howard is going to come back on, all right, because I want my listening audience to hear what you have to say.

So, for whatever reason, our connection. Was not what it was during the break when we brought you on.

So we'll check on that, do what we can do, and continue this conversation. But as soon as I read the news about what had happened in Orlando. Obviously, there's shock. And you think, okay, these are fellow human beings who've been killed, who've been slaughtered. And it's it's heartbreaking, but then you think okay it is going to get spinned this way and this way.

And this way. And this way, and this way. And of course, that is exactly what has happened.

So, Deborah's going to help us sort these things out. In particular, when it comes to Islam and when it comes to American Islamic organizations. And their response to this. On the one hand, We want Islamic organizations and leaders to renounce this and say Islam opposes this, this is not an expression of Islam, this is not right, etc. We want them to do it.

If we call on them to repudiate things, certainly we have to be glad when they are, but what is the spin that's going to be put on this? All right, so we'll try again.

So, Deborah, the moment you then saw the news reports, tell us what you did, tell us what you were expecting. I posted on my Facebook. Yeah. narrative was going to be this is hate, hate, hate, hate, and they're going to start lumping in. before you know it, homophobia with Islamophobia, like it's all the same thing, and that's exactly what's happened.

Yeah, I want you to respond to this clip. This is from CARE, the Council of American Islamic Relations, Joey. Clip number 13. And again, I'm sure you've seen this coming. It's good that Muslim leaders get up and renounce these things.

We call on them to do it. It's good when they do. But let's see if we can read between the lines here. Clip number 13. You do not speak for us.

You do not represent us. You are an aberration. You are an outlaw, or as we call it, in Islam. They are halaric, they are outlaws. They don't speak for our faith.

They never belong to this beautiful faith. They claim to. But the one point seven billion people Are united in rejecting their extremism, their interpretation, and their acts and senseless violence. And they also equate elsewhere CARDA's Islamophobia and homophobia.

So Deborah, your reaction to that clip? Right.

Well, first of all, you're right, because in another speech, they were equate they he actually Mihadawa, the executive director of care, actually came out and said that you cannot dismantle homophobia without d dismantling Islamophobia and he did. Like it's all the same thing, which we know it is not. And to the extent that he was condemning it, it was Yeah. also makes comments that confirm Wait. Practically the Dain for Islamic terrorism in with the same Thing with being bigoted against gays, you have to really question.

the sincerity of his comments. Additionally, I want to point out For those of you audience members who aren't aware. Council on American Islamic relations Bond atom. Hamas and the Islamic Association of Palestine. which are both state-designated terrorist organizations.

And for your audience, which I know is Christian and pays a lot of attention to what happens in Israel. You know that Haman. is not a friend of gays. Not a friend of Christians. and around the world is a lot of Terrorist groups, including ISIS, And especially ISIS, and this was an ISIS.

inspired attack. Has a particular hatred. Of gays, they hate gays, they hate Jews, they hate anybody that doesn't believe the way they do.

So, Uh you really have to It's their apologists. CARE is an apologist organization with Muslim Brotherhood affiliations. Our government should not be working with them, and our media should not be holding them up. as the as representatives of uh equality and tolerance. What about the idea that 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide reject the type of behavior that was carried out in the nightclub?

Well there There are approximately 1.5 or more. maybe 1.7 billion Muslims around the world. And I'm certainly not saying that everyone who calls themselves a Muslim condones this behavior or hates gay people. Obviously, that's not the case.

However, uh it's also a falsehood to say that All 1.5 1.7 billion condemn it. Because Who do you think constitutes these Islamic terrorist group. There's tens of, I don't know the exact number, but it's in the millions at least. Yeah. Yeah.

that it's the Saudi government. The Iran government. all the Islamic theocracies, it's Islamic terrorist groups, they all have a Particular hatred of gays, and it comes out of their Islamic religion.

So some Muslims are shoe the violent or intolerant aspects of their own religion. I hate to say it though, Dr. Brown. It is part of the Canonical doctrine, though. And I would like to add just one more thing: it is not a coincidence that.

that this attack was done. during day pride month. This is Gay Pride Month. And it's also Ramadan, which just you know, makes it twice as good that they overlap this year. And the Islamic terrorist organizations have a particular affinity for committing their attacks.

on locations that have special symbolic significance. and dates and holidays that have special symbolic significance.

So the fact that it's Gay Pride month Just makes it that much more notable that the attack was done on this day. To emphasize. how the Islamic State feels about gay. Yeah, I've got a bunch of more questions for you, a bunch more if you can stick around with us. We've got about two minutes before the next break, but Dennis Prager written an article, what if the murderer had been Christian?

And his basic point is: if that person had been Christian, you'd have a lot of Democrats and leftists and others just in blanket ways condemning Christianity. Whereas, because it's a Muslim, you've got to do everything to disassociate this man from Islam. Do you think he's correct? Probably. I think that there is Yeah.

obviously anti-Christian sentiment among the media and the left in this country. I will say that the other comments I made on my Facebook Which is the media and the government. Would and they are focusing on two things. One is the target, which is the gaze, and the method, which is the guns. if that's what you're focusing on, then the solution is going to be something to the effect of Gay dignity and gun control, and that's what you're hearing.

The real focus should be on the perpetrator and not what you specifically. His motive is, but what he was in ISIS Islamic. attack and the problem that's what the problem is that That's what needs to be focused on. Enemy threat doctrine says you cannot win the war unless you properly identify the enemy and name it by name. And to the extent that our President is whitewashing the whole thing, Ignoring it, saying it's not important, that is playing into the enemy's narrative, and you will see, unfortunately, Dr.

Brown. Two of these attacks. unless we want to face the enemy. face to face and name it what it is. Yeah, in fact, on the other side of the break, I want to ask you if you have followed the extent to which our law enforcement has been hamstrung.

FBI, other intelligence organizations have been hamstrung. Hamstrung because the Obama administration does not want certain words, terms used that Muslim leaders came and said we don't want to be branded a certain way.

So it's almost like you know someone's hiding in the closet, but that's the one place you're not allowed to look. We'll be right back with Deborah Weiss, her website, vigilancenow.org. Around the loose time Shake the name. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks for joining us on the line of fire, 86634Truth. Back to my guest, Deborah Weiss. Deborah, have you followed the degree to which Our law enforcement agencies, our intelligence agencies have been hamstrung.

by administrative policies that don't want to recognize radical Islam by name. I certainly have. That's been quite a lot of my focus, actually, Dr. Brown. And it all stems from political correctness and manipulation of the language.

Yeah. Really new. beat the way Orwell talked about in 1984. And um that you know Because we have religious freedom in this Country. I think government officials are afraid to name anything that's related to a religion.

But to the extent that Islamic supremacists want to impose their beliefs on others and Harm National. security and has a huge political component. And it is an enemy ideology. Muslims who don't embrace that aspect of it. it shouldn't be offended because Policies that would be properly developed and implemented would protect them as well.

So yes, the answer is the FBI, the National Counterterrorism Center, the Department of State. Department of Homeland Security. have all in the last few years under the administration completely rewritten. There are national security training programs. They've gotten rid of several trainers.

that they had that were consultants for years and years. that would train them on the Islamist ideology that motivated them. And what they're teaching their national security professionals now is Yeah. Focus on the behavior. And to it du it doesn't matter what the reason is, but it does matter.

Because if you only focus on the behavior, you can't catch it in its early stages. And you've seen that. In this particular attack, Where the FBMI twice Have the sky. twice he was brought to their attention. Because he was bragging to coworkers that he had friends in Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah.

He had contact with a suicide bomber. I can't remember the exact name of it, but there was a program. That was called fundamentalist something or other that was. led by a terrorist affiliate And they knew all this. But because they aren't identifying the ideology.

as the enemy, unless you Or a Hard-caring member. of a known terrorist organization. Uh that you know, or you have a Act committed actual violence, they let you go. And I'll just want to add one more thing. I know I'm talking a lot, but no, no, no, please.

That's why you're on the air. The Department of Homeland Security also had a program. Where they were surveilling a radical mosque, and the mosque he attended was one of them. And by the way, Hillary Clinton had that dismay.

So that program is no longer. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And the manipulation and censorship of language. And really a problem that doesn't It starts with political correctness, but it doesn't end there.

It's not just Just designed to make people feel better and touchy feely and We're all being nice to each other. over into power. Then actually wind up endangering all Americans and including Muslim Americans. It's a big problem. Yeah, and you know what's absolutely wild here.

I've been to Israel a good number of times. Anyone that's traveled to Israel, say with on El Al Airlines, they're number one in security in the world. They have to deal with this day and night. And they have to do all kinds of things to look at potential racial profiling and all kinds of now. If you're not guilty, you'll get through.

You'll make it in without a problem. But if there's a problem and everyone on that plane, they want to make sure, yeah, fine, I'll go through the extra scrutiny and make me feel uncomfortable even when I'm going to Israel for a friend's wedding. I don't mind because that's what security does. President Obama has now lashed out. At Donald Trump, not by name, but speaking about yapping from politicians who tweet, saying, We're now seeing how dangerous this kind of mindset, this kind of thinking can be.

We're starting to see where this kind of rhetoric and loose talk and sloppiness about who exactly we're fighting, where this can lead us. And he said, So if he uses terms like radical Islamic terrorism, what exactly would this using this language accomplish? What exactly would it change? And he said, We're seeing that it could lead to further attacks.

So explain this to me. Explain this to me. Here, a Muslim man slaughters other Americans, right? And now President Obama is saying that if we use the right terms, it's going to lead to more attacks on Muslims? This is completely upside down.

Well, I would argue that it's the other way around. Of course. He's the one who's been avoiding this language, and now we see what it leads to. Donald Trump hasn't implemented any policies. administration national security apparatus is not In sync with Donald Trump's views, and I'm not sitting here to advocate.

For Donald Trump, but since the president blamed everything on him and his use of language, I I will just say. that you know it was Practically random that President Obama blinked. Yeah. Donald Trump and his language. Trump out of it.

identified he's saint What he's saying. Is that if you properly identify the enemy, then you'll reap the consequences. he is doing. Since you asked me to explain it is he's confusing cause with a If you name the enemy, you know, there's a terrorist attack. And then you name it for what it is, and then there's another one.

You can't say, oh, it was our fault because we properly named it. What around? a way a long time ago before anybody knew what it was called.

So it's kind of Housewife who's beaten up, you know, and when her husband beats her, blames herself for what. Whatever she did, it's It's all backwards. It's all backwards. It for him to say what difference it makes It makes a difference. You know, if you want to know Who the enemy is, you have to understand what their goals are, what's motivating them, where you can find.

them, what they're thinking. Otherwise this is Not going to be, it's not a bunch of ice. coincidences. Yeah, well said on every front. Deborah, so if folks go to Vigilance Now, Is that the best place to go or any of your books?

People want to read more, find out more because you articulate these things so clearly. And you just have to think: what is the administration thinking? What are people thinking? This is so obvious. But we're out of time.

What's the best way for people to get more of your work in their hands? isn't updated because I have no help. are the best way to look me up is Just type in my name, D-E-B-L-R A-N. W E I S and S. If you put Sharia, a lot of my work will come up.

you can contact me through my website and I will get it if you have another radio show or whatever. And the book that I I would say now is Mm-hmm. on American Islamic relations. published by CFNS. and also the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.

find it on Amazon. And uh that's it. I'm writing another one now, but we can talk about that next time. Awesome. And in point of fact, Deborah, you don't complain about the work that you do, but this is nothing you went looking for.

This is something that kind of found you and you felt that you have to address it.

So thanks for the work. I know it's sacrificial. Keep it up and look forward to speaking with you again.

Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Thanks for the great work. You do on your show.

All right, appreciate it.

Okay, bye-bye. All right. Well, great talking to Deborah and Boyd. Does she make things clear? Does she make things clear?

If you're just looking at the behavior and you can't look at the ideology, if you're just isolating the behavior and the person hasn't actually committed the act, But they've told you all the reasons why they're going to commit the act. You've got to be able to act.

Alright, lot more to come. Stay with us. Shame. It's the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian Dr. Michael Brown.

Your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34 TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Just looking at some breaking news at a Walmart, Amarillo, Texas.

A Somali man wearing khaki pants. Took hostages and was killed by a SWAT team. Was this another Islamic terror act in the midst of Ramadan? Was it some work-related dispute? We'll find out.

But this is Michael Brown. Welcome to the line of fire. A few minutes, I'm going to be joined by John Zmirak, who is one of the writers at stream.org. And we'll continue to discuss things from a Christian perspective in terms of the tragedy in Orlando. But just to let you know, we have been right on top of this.

We have three articles out. two days of broadcasting and one video out and a second one that will be out.

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So, my latest articles, I've got three. I mentioned this earlier in the broadcast, but for those just tuning in, let me mention them again. I've got three articles that I wrote Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Sunday right and wrong reactions to the Orlando massacre. Monday.

Christian message to LGBT Americans. And today, a possibly gay Muslim terrorist slaughters gays And straight Christians get blamed. Each of these articles, I believe, are very important. Circulate them to your friends. Hopefully, we're able to articulate many things that you feel.

And together with our team, have this as up-to-date as possible with key references to other quotes and other things in the news so that we can help equip you in the midst of your busy life and schedule. And then a wonderful testimony from yesterday as I interviewed Tammy Shea. She used to frequent the gay bar, the gay nightclub where the massacre took place before she knew the Lord when she was living as a lesbian and a heavy drug user. And the Lord wonderfully saved her. She's very happily married to a student in our ministry school and is a great worshiper and singer and worship leader.

So we're blessed to have her in our midst. We put her testimony on YouTube so you can just listen to that. You won't watch it, but you can listen to it. And that's just under latest videos. We'll also be Putting out in the next day or so a video where I utterly renounce the rhetoric of one particular pastor who is celebrating the slaughter of these gays and lesbians in Orlando.

So Those resources are available to you and for you. And I encourage your friends when we're in one of these seasons when things are swirling with ever-increasing intensity around us, it's easy to get pulled away from prayer. It's easy to get pulled away from the Word. It's easy to get pulled away from worship of God because of the intensity of the news cycle and the intensity of the spiritual atmosphere. That's when all the more we need to take refuge in the Lord.

That's when all the more we need to come away. From the pressures of the world and come away from the confusion of the society and come away from the latest news cycle. And meet with the Lord. And out of that meeting with Him, we will be strengthened, we will be equipped, we will be helped, we will be blessed, and then we can come with a message of life and hope and salvation and transformation for a hurting and dying world. We come back on the other side of the break.

I'll be speaking with John Zmurak of stream.org, and you'll see my latest articles right there on stream.org, ready to be shared with your friends. They change the world. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr.

Michael Brown. Thanks for joining us on the line of fire as we serve. As your voice of moral sanity and spiritual clarity in the midst of a society and chaos in the church. All too often in compromise. My last three articles all up on the stream.org, all dealing with the tragic massacre in Orlando and the implications thereof.

I'm joined now by a colleague, fellow writer on the stream, John Zmirak, always bringing interesting perspectives from his own point of view. John, welcome back to the line of fire. Thank you, Michael. It's good to be on.

So, John, as you began to read the news early Sunday morning about the tragedy, once you got past the issues of the human loss and the trauma that people were experiencing, the families of the victims, those wounded, what did you think? Think, okay, how is this going to unfold? What's coming next? What are the political or social implications of this?

Well, my first instinct was outrage that this is an attack on my fellow Americans, regardless. Of what they're doing, whether the lifestyle is one that doesn't fit my religious beliefs, it's irrelevant. These are my fellow citizens, fellow human beings. being brutally murdered in my own country. and they weren't able to defend themselves.

And then I found out that the attacker was a radical Muslim, that he was a government employee effectively, that he worked for a contractor for the Department of Homeland Security, that the contractor he works for, ninety percent of their business is guarding nuclear power plants, that he'd been interviewed three times by the FBI and allowed to go free And has he been licensed? and trained to use military style weapons. And then I hear that the left is trying to make this about gun control. and trying to blame the Christian church For Islamic hatred to the death of homosexuals. And I can't say I was surprised because the Propaganda machine of the progressivists.

Is well oiled and always ready to go into action. They never let a tragedy go to waste. Yeah, yeah, well, well said. And the shock of this, I just had an expert on, an attorney who's looked a lot at American Muslim organizations, and she was discussing with me how law enforcement and intelligence, what they're not allowed to act on or look for. According to her, under Hillary Clinton, the radical mosque that this man attended was no longer surveilled.

whereas it used to be and that She said that you can only focus on behavior, not ideology.

So you can have this guy's in the crosshairs and see his ideology is wrong, but because he hasn't crossed a certain line with his behavior. He's allowed to go on with things.

So, John, how do we balance out? Freedoms for Americans, and the government is not eavesdropping theoretically on every one of our Bible studies or church services. On the one hand, on the other hand, we do have to look for dangerous ideologies. How do we sort these things out as Americans who love liberty? Is the Donald Trump position right?

I mean, where do we go? I think mister Trump is right about Muslim immigration. The foreign nationals have no constitutional rights. Under American law.

So we do not owe first or second or fourteenth Amendment protections to someone in Afghanistan who applies to come to the United States. We have an absolute right to decide who we want to come to this country and why.

So it's ridiculous to say it would violate the First Amendment to have a religious test. or a national test on immigration because no element of the Constitution applies to people who are not American citizens. They have human rights, but they don't have constitutional rights. And there is no human right to relocate to the United States. It doesn't exist.

Um So I think mister Trump is right about that. I prefer Ted Cruz's approach, which is focusing on what countries tend to have terrorism problems and diminishing immigration from them. Once people are here legally, they are protected by the Constitution, which is precisely the reason why you don't want to bring more of them in. Because once they're here, we don't want to take away their liberties. We don't want to repeat what SDR did to Japanese Americans.

But I think nobody would have blamed SDR for not accepting millions more Japanese into the country while we were at war with them. And make no mistake, we are at war with an orthodox mainstream interpretation of Islam. The interpretation of Islam that prevails in Saudi Arabia, which could call it the Sunni Muslim Vatican. They have the death penalty for homosexuality. The death penalty for adultery.

They have marriage of girls as young as nine. They have polygamy. They have wife beating. All these things are in the Quran or the Hadith, are in the example of Muhammad's own life.

So any Muslim who really studies the documents of his own religion or listens to the most popular sources on the Internet or the most authoritative religious figures in places like Egypt, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia will be told that it is right to execute homosexuals, though probably in Saudi Arabia they would they would say he should have a fair trial first.

So what the fellow what this killer in Orlando did that differs from Saudi Arabia is that he didn't give those homosexuals a trial. But other than that, he was doing exactly what our so called allies in Saudi Arabia would do. You've heard the the stories about ISIS throwing homosexuals off of tall buildings. I was wondering why they did that hardly. horror that horror as opposed to another horror.

Well, this morning I read a fantastic piece at the Federalists called Why Islamic Islamists Hate Homosexuals. And it said that according to the Islamist study of history, in the first three generations of Islam, which they regard as the purest period before any doctoral deviations, Muhammad and his lieutenants, when they caught a male homosexual, would throw him from the tallest point in the city.

So what they are doing is going back to basics. If some Christians want to go back to the early church, some of them want to live in common as we read in the Acts of the Apostles.

Well, when Muslims have that impulse, what they do is they throw homosexuals from tall buildings. Mm.

So this is just being consistent then? They're being consistent. I mean, there are plenty of peaceful Muslims in America because they're relatively bad Muslims. They're not very devout. The more devout they become, the more dangerous they become.

It's the opposite with Christianity. You don't find devout Christians shooting people up, even abortionists. No one's attacking, thank God, Planned Parenthood. Devout Christians don't commit acts of terrorism. In past centuries, they may have been involved in acts of organized religious intolerance, but that was centuries ago.

And the West has turned away from all that. There's not a single church. that I know of. that sanctions any legal punishment for people based on their private sexual behavior, whereas the Muslim Vatican endorses it.

So there's your difference. Yeah, and as I tweeted out earlier, the difference between ISIS and the gospel is the difference between death and life. And really the difference between Islam and Christianity is the difference between Muhammad and Jesus.

So John, in your esteemed opinion, why is it that our administration does not want to use the words radical Islamic terrorism? What, in your view, is at the root of this? I think if they admitted that first of all, radical means back to the root. And if you really think about radical Islam, you're accepting the reality that these people in ISIS and Saudi Arabia have a point about what Islam really says. And some people are afraid that if they agree with that, they're actually helping the other side to make recruits.

They're hoping that if we pretend Islam is peaceful and the media pretends Islam is peaceful, that your average Muslim who's here will believe that and will not believe his own Imam or his own religious sources. It's a very short-sighted way to buy time. Um If we really look at it The Sharia law, which is the official political program of Islam, and as intrinsically bound up with it as the New Testament is with the Bible. It is with Christianity. Um It's an ideology.

It's a totalitarian ideology of world conquest. It simply is in the same way that communism was a an ideology of world revolution. For 50 or 60 years, we forbade members of Communist parties to emigrate to the United States. But once people who were born here were free to join the Communist Party USA, we need to take a similar approach with Islam. People who are here legally are protected by the First Amendment.

But They do present a certain risk because of the intrinsic doctrines of Islam. Therefore, we should seek to minimize the number of people. Who are here taking advantage of our First Amendment liberties so that we can preserve the First Amendment, so that we don't have to create a kind of police state in order to. diminish the number of terrorist attacks that happen every Ramadan. Hmm.

Yeah, well well said, clearly thought out. Hey John, do you have any new articles coming out on the stream?

Well, I've got a piece up there right now called Guns Don't Kill People. Guns don't kill people, Islamists do. Mm.

Yeah. All right. Read it, friends, on the stream. You won't miss the last name, Zmirak, Z-M-I-R-A-K. Just a little harder to spell and pronounce than my last name.

John, great talking to you. Look forward to seeing you again soon.

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Michael Brown. We need to confront and we need to Hold people accountable for The toxic Murderous homophobia and transphobia. that is, continuously pumped Into our culture, and the main source, the wellspring of that toxic homophobia. and transphobia and is religion. Here's the long and short of it.

If gay activists like Dan Savage have their way, those of us who Take the Bible seriously and believe it to be God's word will be in many ways silenced. And uh considered to be hate-filled, violence-inducing. Despite the fact that we preach a religion of love, despite the fact that we say, put down your sword and take up your cross, that's what would ultimately happen. This is Michael Brown. Do hope you can join me in Israel next year.

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Join us on the trip. You know, for... For weeks and weeks, for a few months before my Italy trip. I got back last week and then home for a week and now leave for Australia right after the show today. But I um I Was talking with our oldest granddaughter Eliana and she was counting the days and we were counting the days.

Couldn't wait to go to Italy with her and her cousin Rebecca. They're 15 and 16 years old. And now we've been back a week already. It happened. We had an amazing trip.

Fun trip, a rich trip ministry-wise, and great trip for them on every level.

Now we're home.

Now I'm leaving for Australia.

So time flies. And that's one reason that I seek to bear as much fruit as I can to honor the Lord, lasting fruit, because we only have one life to live. And on the one hand, it's long, on the other hand, it's gone. Before we know it.

So let me interact with Dan Savage. Unfortunately, he has been extraordinarily vile in his attack on Christians over the years. and uh on other conservatives. And he has created an atmosphere that is extremely toxic and ugly.

Now he'd say, no, it's all on us. We're the ones that demonized homosexuals. We'd say, listen, no one w we we were not advocating violence towards you. Or we were, listen, the fact that according to our faith, homosexual practice is sin, and you say, This is who I am. That does not diminish you as a human being unless you embrace that faith and then you say, Okay, God help me.

And we all come as sinners before the Lord. That's how we all get saved, as sinners under judgment.

So in that sense, Christianity diminishes everyone by saying you're all sinners and then offers eternal life and saying you're of eternal value to God. But let's listen to a couple of clips. Clip number two: Dan Savage on his podcast. We know you're not all like that. But you know what?

Enough of you, people of faith. are like that. to keep this toxic homophobia and transphobia in play to keep it deadly to keep it We thought. And so we need to confront that. We need to argue with people about their Theology, which is something I used to say, maybe we should try to avoid.

Okay, we're going to go to hell, that's fine. You can think that. Let us live our lives and God can sort it out. And if you're right, you win. But The price of not confronting people about their theology Obviously Yeah.

In other words, you don't have the right to believe that. That's what it fundamentally comes down to. And and Saying marriage is the union of a man and a woman. does not lead to let's kill gays. There's no logical or moral connection between the two.

To say it's lethal, it's not lethal, it hasn't been lethal. There are tens of millions of American Christians, conservative Christians, and many of them are gun owners and weapon owners. It's not been lethal. Because our faith brings life, not Death. And look.

We believe Jews without Jesus are lost. We believe Muslims without Jesus are lost. Atheists without Jesus are lost. Gays and lesbians without Jesus are lost. Down the list.

All human beings outside of Jesus are lost, so we preach the gospel to them. And Muslims believe Christians are lost, or whatever term they would use for it, and Jews are lost, etc. And atheists believe we're deceived, and we have our differences. And as Christians, what do we do? We pray for one.

Another. Uh Let's I still got time. Clip number three. When will it end, and how many have to die? Before it ends, and how many atrocities must there be?

How many attacks? On gay, lesbian, bi, and trans people, will there be? Before we, and by we, I don't just mean queer people, I mean all good and decent people. Stand up. to the homophobes and the bigots.

and no longer allow them to hide behind, their pulpits? their quote unquote sincerely held religious beliefs. Their Leviticus Quotes Their Quranic quotes There Paper thin, literally paper thin. Justifications for hatred and bigotry. A lot of screaming and yelling on Twitter, that liberals want to talk about guns.

Conservatives want to talk about Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists. We can talk about both things. We can talk about religious bigotry and we can talk about Our poisonous, toxic gun culture and religious bigotry against LGBT people isn't unique. to Islam.

So there you have it. Get rid of Leviticus. get rid of the Bible, so says Dan Savage. Hey Dan, that's not going to happen. But I didn't kill anyone in the gay bar.

That was an attack on all Americans by radical Muslims, by a man who himself apparently was gay. And right now Christians are being slaughtered around the world by radical Muslims. In fact, far more Christians is because of numbers. are being slaughtered. butchered, tortured, imprisoned, kidnapped, raped, exiled, Biradical Muslims, then are gays.

Doesn't minimize what happened in Orlando. Doesn't minimize the terror of gay men being thrown off buildings and Syria and Iraq. Doesn't minimize that. Simply to say, Christians are not the ones taking up the sword. They're the ones being put to death by the edge of the sword.

And and to think that you would dare. dare compare the murder The cold blooded murder of gays and lesbians, in a nightclub in Orlando, by a radical Muslim, With a Christian saying, hey, we love you as our neighbor, friend, family member. We welcome you into our congregations, our homes, but we don't believe marriage is the union of two people of the same sex, but only of the opposite sex. That's what God intended. To compare those two is to do something dangerous.

and to do something vile. And when you see how many more attacks this is going to take to stop things, this was not an attack by Christians. This was an attack by radical Muslims. Let's point the finger where it belongs. And without a Christian on the planet, radical Muslims would be just as violent.

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