What In the World Is Happening in the White House? (And Praise Reports from Israel)

Well, I just flew in from Israel a few hours ago, and I am ready to go, what in the world is going on with the White House, with the Obama administration? How do we separate truth from fiction? That and a lot more right here. It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and president of Fire School of Ministry. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRUT. That's 866-34TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

Well, here we are back at home after a wonderful, amazing trip to Israel. This is Michael Brown. This is the line of fire. The number to call remains the same, 866-34TRUTH, 866-348-7884. Anyone that was with me on the trip to Israel, if you're listening, great shout out to all of you.

I got into Kennedy Airport, New York City, oh, what was it, about 4.15 in the morning, and then flew out of Kennedy back to my home state. Got in, let's see, flew out of Kennedy, ate something, got home maybe 11-ish, and spent a little time at home, turned around, came to radio. And hey, why not? What else were you going to do?

So, my joy to be with you.

So much happening in the world around us. I've got some great stories from Israel as well that I want to share with you. Here, again, the number to call: 866-348-7884. A funny little story, I'll tell you that in a moment. But before that, let me throw out some questions I want to discuss right now.

Who do you believe? Who do you believe? Donald Trump. The President tweeting out that the Obama administration Has wiretapped Trump Tower, had them wiretapped during the elections. This would be a scandal, many would say, worse than Watergate.

Or is it just another example of President Trump being reckless, worse than reckless, being baseless? Who do you believe her right now? Do you believe that the Obama administration? Or, if not the president himself, Department of Justice, or some other department within the White House. Wiretapped President Trump, his people, to see if there was evidence of collusion, of working with the Russians to undermine the election.

Would that surprise you? We just say, hey, come on, they did that to all kinds of people. Who knows who the government wiretaps? We don't believe any of this stuff when they deny it. Or do you hear this and you say, come on, are you going to be crazy and believe the latest, greatest conspiracy theory just because the president is tweeting it out?

I want to share some of my own thoughts. Listen, I don't have insider information. Nothing has been leaked to me from an anonymous source. All right. I just have some thoughts, some speculation, maybe some wisdom to offer on that.

I want to talk to you about that as well. But the question is, who do you believe? Who do you trust right now? Who do you think is telling the truth? New York Times, interestingly, is one of the sources for the story that there was a wiretapping done by Pfizer, that this was something that did happen, reported on by the New York Times, and then denied subsequently by the New York Times.

So what do we make of that? Just questions that are out there. And does this make you feel insecure in general? Uh does this make you feel Uh concerned. Does this make you feel uncertain Or does this excite you because you say, hey, there's a big shaking right now, and everything that's going to be shaken is going to be shaken, and Donald Trump is the man to do it for better or for worse.

We'll talk about that. There is a Disney movie now where there'll be a gay moment with one of the characters. It's a time to boycott Disney. The boycotts do any good? Or should we have boycotted Disney a long time ago?

Another question to put out for your consideration. But we come back. I want to just step back from some of this intense news of the moment. And Tell you some funny things and some neat things that happened with regard to our Israel trip and one little interesting thing that happened as I was traveling back. Again, number to call to get in the conversation, 866-348-7884.

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As one who has been engaged in intelligence, a member of the Gang of Eight for a long time, I can tell you that it's just ridiculous for the president. President Trump to say that President Obama would ever order any wire type of an American citizen, any president. That's just not, we don't do that. And so this is, it's called a wrap-up smear. You make up something, then you have the press write about it, and then you say, everybody's writing about this charge.

It's a tool of an authoritarian to just have you always be talking about what you want them to be talking about. Rather than Russia, we're talking about, did President Obama do thus and so? He certainly did not. That was the voice of Nancy Pelosi speaking with Jake Tapper. What's fascinating about that is you could say the exact opposite.

You could say that this is what we should be talking about. Instead, we're talking about Russia. I'll come back, share my thoughts with you on that in a moment, 866-348-7884 to get your take. But first, just a couple of things from our Israel trip.

So we left, our tour group left on Saturday night and arrived in Israel late Sunday afternoon. And we broadcast live from the Galilee Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, and then from Jerusalem Thursday night, Friday night. I finished up the tour Sunday evening with a great meal in Jaffa and then got to the airport to fly out of Tel Aviv, Ben-Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv around 12.15 in the morning.

So 12.15 Monday morning, so late Sunday night. And then I arrived at JFK. We flew in, got a little air. after four in the morning this morning. Yes, just a few hours ago.

And it was an amazing trip. Listen, I don't have another tour planned right now. I'm not trying to push anything or hype anything. I just want to tell you, it was an amazing trip. As much as I knew it would be an amazing trip.

I was amazed by how amazing it was. I was amazed again at how impacting it is. I was amazed at how much you get to see in the course of a week and how much you get to experience. And What can you say? I mean, I wish I had the ability to do these once a month.

By the way, that's not happening with us or with me leading it or being part of it. But I wish I could bring people over every single month. The impact, the eye-opening nature of it, the wonder of it. What can you say? God's in it.

God's in the restoration of Israel. God's in the restoration of the modern state of Israel. Let the critics say what they may. Let the issues remain real issues in terms of justice for all and fair treatment of Palestinians and on and on. Let all those issues be on the table.

Let's discuss all of them, look at all of them. But you cannot deny to me, scripturally, logically, and then once you're there in the land, the divine nature of this restoration.

Okay.

So Uh I Uh normally when I travel On the plane, I just sleep as I sleep. I don't take anything to help me sleep. And then when I'm on the ground, I don't take anything to help me stay awake, just do my best to get the maximum sleep I can. Then, of course, have this very healthy lifestyle, as you know, of eating super healthily and doing my best to do intensive workouts regularly. And that helps greatly with travel.

But still, you know, it's tiring. And sometimes on the plane, even, you know, upgraded seating and seated in business class and things like that, sometimes I don't sleep well.

Sometimes I sleep great. It varies.

So I thought, okay, this time, when I get on the plane, I just got to sleep. I want to sleep as much as I can and then have as much energy for when I get back and come in straight to do radio. And because this will be nighttime, Israel time. This will be, what, 9, 11 in the evening Israel time.

So just wanted to be ready and alert to do that.

So I thought, okay. I'm gonna Take a pill with melatonin, so just mild sleep aid. I'm gonna take that when I get on the plane, and we're about to take off this way shortly before I can go to sleep. You know, put the seat back, go to sleep. And then if I need to.

When I land and have, you know, maybe get a juice smoothie, help healthy fruit smoothie at the airport. When I land, maybe then take a pill, you know, when I'm back home, take a pill just with a little bit that helps you catch up, wake up, overcome jet lag. Uh so I thought okay They look very similar. They look very similar in color. and they're made by the same company.

So what should I do? I thought, okay. Right to sleep, right to sleep. I get on the plane, I go right to sleep.

So, what does that mean? That means that I am going to put the sleeping pill in my right pocket, uh-huh, and then in my left pocket. Left. Go to sleep. Because I wasn't bringing the jars.

I'm just going to need one of these pills anyway.

So when I'm going through security in Israel, they asked, do you have anything in your pockets? I said, just some money and I said vitamins. I didn't know how else to say this, some pills.

So they said, take them out. I said.

Okay.

I'm not even thinking.

So I take everything out, dump it in the tray, and then she goes, Oh, you didn't need to put that in the tray. I said, Okay. And then I realized, wait a second. I don't know which is which. I don't want to take the pill to keep me up on the plane or take the pill to put me to sleep.

Helped me sleep before radio. I thought, oh, my great plan, right to sleep.

So put the sleep one in the right pocket. No, I didn't. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Made a mistake, I wasn't thinking.

So, thankfully, when I was chatting with one of the gals on the tour with us, one of our grads, a longtime friend of the family, she said, Well, let's get online and let's look. And then, turns out, when I got online and looked at the pictures, there's a slight difference. One was like white, and the other is maybe more beige.

So, we're able to sort it out. And then, if I suddenly fall asleep in the middle of the broadcast, you know I took the wrong pill. No, I'm joking with you. But the goal is. that this will not be what the students used to refer to as a jet lag class.

This will not be a jet lag show. I found out that when I'd come back from overseas ministry, because my pattern was always just immediately get on normal schedule.

So it wouldn't matter what time I got back. It wouldn't matter what time I arrived. If I just got in early in the morning, I'd just teach, preach, have a normal ministry day. Just like today got in a few hours ago and come and do radio. And just my lifestyle and habit.

So. I found out that the students used to call those jet lag classes, jet lag classes, because they didn't know if I was going to go on a tangent and never come back. I don't think I've done it for quite some time. I've told students at our ministry school now to be on guard for those who laughed about it, but it doesn't seem to happen. But just in case I go on a tangent and never seem to come back, you can attribute that to jet lag.

All right, 866-348-7884. I've got some really neat testimonies I want to share with you from Israel as well. But one more quote from Nancy Pelosi, and then I want to start to interact. I want to start to unpack. my thoughts, my views on who to believe and what is happening with the wiretapping accusations and other things like that.

JJ, clip number two, again, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and she is on with Jake Tapper on the State of the Union broadcast on CNN. I think the press were accomplices in the undermining of our election by the Russians by not pointing out this stuff is worthless because it comes from an undermining of our election. Ah, okay. I find this to be tremendously ironic, to say the least. I find it to be Disconcerting and disingenuous.

Disingenuous because the press. was not working somehow. On behalf of Donald Trump or in favor of Donald Trump, the so-called mainstream media, the main networks, the numerous cable outlets. The the press in different ways Working against President Trump or candidate Trump at that point. And to blame the media in this way is if they're now.

drawing attention, putting attention the wrong way. Look, the whole thing with Jeff Sessions, from what I can tell, and accusing him of hiding some type of collusion with the Russians or whatever, seems to be completely overblown from what I can tell. And from what I understand, the investigations against President Trump thus far have yielded nothing that his campaign in any way colluded with the Russians to help him be elected as President.

So as far as I know, that remains true. But, but. A few thoughts. Number one. If Donald Trump had not been as reckless as he has been with his words, with his accusations, with his tweets, as broad-based, as sometimes randomly accusing individuals or attacking the name call and the rhetoric.

Yeah, it's getting better in certain ways, but remember he referred to President Obama in recent tweets as a bad guy, sick guy. for saying that that he authorized the wiretapping of of uh of Trump Tower.

So if he had not been as reckless as he was... Then in point of fact, I think more people would be prone to believe him or less able to dismiss his charges. You know, it's like the boy crying wolf. On the other hand, I don't trust for a split second. When Nancy Pelosi says no president would do this or no president's ever done this.

I don't trust that for a split second. We'll be right back. Change the world. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown.

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Yeah, let's just remember. the magnitude of what President Trump has said. about President Obama's administration. Let's remember the magnitude of it. Lindsey Graham Lindsey Graham and Uh has this to say clip number three This is a public gathering, but listen to what he says as he weighs in on the issue of was there wiretapping.

I don't know. it's true or not, but if it is true. Illegally. It would be the biggest political scandal since Wargate. All right, so he's speaking at a town hall meeting in Clemson, South Carolina.

Let's just listen to one more clip as he weighs in. You know, either way, this is major news. Either the president, the sitting president, is making an outrageous accusation. an outrageous accusation against Against The former President of the United States or the former president of the United States. And/or people high up in his administration are guilty of something utterly outrageous.

Either way, this is a massive outrageous story. Clip number four. I may work. I'm very worried that our president is suggesting that the former president has done something illegal. I would be very worried if, in fact, the Obama administration was able to obtain a warrant lawfully.

about Trump campaign activity with foreign governments.

Alright, so here's my quandary. Here's my quandary. You have The politicians, pundits on the left saying the charges are completely outrageous, and there is no evidence whatsoever to support it. You have Others, including a former speechwriter for President Obama, saying don't be so quick to dismiss these charges. You have a former president.

President Bush, Attorney General, saying, quote, or headline on the Hill, Trump likely right about surveillance. You have radio host Mark Levin. Yes, conservative right-wing host, also known for careful research and legal thinking, saying the evidence is overwhelming. Overwhelming, and this drawing from sources on the left that the evidence is overwhelming. that Trump was wiretapped.

My my quadry is this, okay? Number one. I believe that Trump's reckless speech and tweets in the past, making statements that were either exaggerated or that were not substantiated even if true, those make it difficult to just say, okay, well, he would never say something this outrageous unless he had support. Although I do believe he has support, I question whether you can just take everything that's said at face value. On the flip side, I think that The Obama administration?

And the Bush administration and other administrations did all kinds of things that we'd be shocked to find out about. or that the NSA did. Or the CIA or the FBI and how those three all work together in the House Intelligence Committee and all that, I don't know. I've never claimed to be an expert on intelligence security within the United States and how these things work and how the secret things are done and what's known and what's look, if every email I sent out for the last 10 years had been followed or read by the NSA for some reason, it wouldn't surprise me at all. I just don't know.

No, I don't have some paranoid. Oh, no. What are they? Oh, no. No, I'm not.

Look, I do everything openly in the sight of God in that respect.

So there's no skeletons in the claws. Like, oh, if they read the emails I sent out in the last month, oh, no. No, quite the contrary. But But I have no problem thinking The Trump administration could do things behind the scenes that we'd be shocked to find out. I just think a lot goes on that we'd be shocked to find out about.

And you're saying there are other scandals and other administrations that were hidden? It could be. It could be. So I I am expecting as this unfolds That uh That there is going to be a lot of accusations both ways. It's self-evident.

There's going to be some ambiguity. But I think what's going to become apparent is the witch hunting of the media. And it's not to say that the Trump administration is guiltless always, okay, or I'm always going to defend them or agree with them. That's obviously not the case. If you listen, you know it's not the case.

But I think the biggest news, the biggest concern in all of this is all the leaks, where are they coming from? And doesn't that point to, doesn't that point to some collusion on the part of the Obama administration with, or at least people loyal to the Obama administration that are now serving in various capacities? It be it in CIA or FBI or Department of Justice or other places that are leaking information. Isn't that the biggest issue? To me, that is.

Personally, to me, that's the biggest issue. All right, let me grab a call while we have time. Jim in Tampa, Florida, welcome to the line of fire. Hello, sir. This is Jim.

Hey, Jim. I was calling in reference to your thing on Facebook about I believe Trump this time over against the democratic stance that they're making. I think he's exposed to a lot of things He's no perfect person. He's But kinda like Hezekiah or Josiah in the Old Testament, I think he's doing a lot to expose some corruption in the government. Basically.

Got it. Did did you vote for Trump? Yes, I did. Did you vote for him with any reservations? No, because I knew I wasn't voting for a pastor.

I was voting for a leader of a secular country That's uh They had promised. To put America first, put American citizens first.

So that's the main reason. I didn't vote for him in any wise to be a pastor or spiritual leader.

So his rough edges didn't surprise you. And didn't stop him. That didn't hinder me from voting for him. Would would you have a problem disagreeing with him today? I disagree with him on certain issues, but Okay.

giving freedom back to Christians to do uh what's on their hearts, you know. like the woman who uh did not want to uh cater to the gay Waiting. or the gay wedding cake, you know, that kind of thing. That's why I voted for him. Got it.

Okay.

So you're a supporter, you feel and felt that he's the right man for the job, but you're not a blind defender.

So in this case, it's not that's why I asked those questions. And I appreciate that, Jim. And I think you speak for a large number of voters, sir. I think you speak for a large number of voters who don't necessarily endorse everything he says or does and would have no problem saying they differ. But you are leaning with him being the one that is exposing the wrong.

rather than the media, the secular media or the previous administration exposing the wrong in Trump's administration. Yeah, I think you speak for many in that respect. Hey, thank you for weighing in. Listen, friends, we're just back from Israel. But Oh.

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The number to call. Let me grab just another clip here. This is Josh Ernest. He's on ABC's This Week with Martha Raditz. This will be clip number five.

And he again is responding to the question of wiretapping of President Trump, when he was candidate Trump, this is his response. President Obama's former speechwriter Jon Favreau, your former colleague, tweeted, I'd be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping. Statement just said that neither he nor the White House ordered it. Can you categorically deny that the Obama Justice Department did not seek and obtain a FISA court-ordered wiretap? What I can categorically deny, Martha, is that the White House was at all involved in directing or interfering or influencing an FBI investigation.

That's not what I'm asking. What I'm asking is: can you deny that the Obama Justice Department did not seek and obtain a FISA court-ordered wiretap of the Trump campaign? It was a cardinal rule. Here's the simple answer to that question is, Martha. I don't know.

Hmm. Isn't isn't that intr isn't that interesting? Former Press Secretary Josh Ernest, if you expect anybody To say, oh, no, no, absolutely, no, no, no way, no way, this, no way, that, no way. No way, no how. He doesn't say that.

He says other things categorically. But not that. One more clip again on with Martha Raddat's ABC's This Week. Do you know whether the president was ever given information about surveillance at Trump Tower? What I can tell you, well, first of all, I'm not aware of all of the details of how the president was briefed by the FBI, but what I can tell you is the president was not giving marching orders to the FBI about how to conduct their investigations.

He was not asking for regular updates on FBI investigations. And let me just stipulate one more time. You have to ask the FBI whether there actually is an investigation. Ah Very, very interesting. Was the FBI doing something unbeknownst to the President?

Would he be saying that? Would some of the department do something on that level unbeknownst to the president? That would be another surprise, would it not?

So it's just interesting that the denial Is not as categorical as you would expect it to be. Is there more here? It meets the eye. We'll be right back. Shake.

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So I just want to sum up again. My basic thoughts about what's happening with the Trump accusations against the Obama administration, the media attacking the alleged Russian connection with the elections, and larger issues. Number one, to me, the biggest issue is the constant leaks coming out against Donald Trump right now in his administration. Where are they coming from? How are they happening?

That is absolutely a cause for concern. There is a video showing what appears to be heated discussion with Steve Bannon and others, allegedly Donald Trump furious over certain things that happened, that with Department of Justice head attorney general Jeff Sessions recusing himself from any discussion as to whether there was collusion with him and the Russian ambassador during the Trump campaign or about the Trump campaign, that allegedly, according to this, that took focus away from Trump's speech and all of the momentum that that built and so on and so forth. I I don't know about any of that. I wasn't there. Right?

But how did they get a video?

Somebody just happened to be close enough to be to be shooting a video through a window at the White House? You gotta be kidding me.

So that's my biggest issue. Where are the leaks coming from? And how can these be going on? And how can these be right? That's number one.

Number two. I don't think that Donald Trump would have said what he said via tweet, made an accusation of this level against the president without.

some hard evidence. I'm not going to go through all of it. Others have in detail. I'm not going to go through all of it. But...

But Suffice it to say, Suffice it to say that If he had not been as reckless as he had been, with other tweets. I would be more willing to take this at face value that he must have evidence.

So I lean in that direction, but I can't feel certain about it because of the recklessness with which other things have been communicated. That's number two. Number three, I have every reason to distrust. to distrust the Obama administration. and to not put a whole lot of trust in the government in general.

because of track record over the years and because of Government's government. And a lot of things are secret, and a lot of things are behind the scenes, and a lot of things are done covertly that we'd be surprised to hear about. And the same could be under the Trump administration. You follow what I'm saying? I have a general distrust for the power of the government.

Oh, God raises up leaders and God has established government. I understand. It doesn't mean that everything government does is right. And I'm not one of those, if you listen regularly, I'm not one of those who believes in all kinds of conspiratorial theories. 86634TRUTH.

This is Gateway Pundit. and it is a guest post by Joe Holt, It's getting a lot of attention. Here's the list. More than a dozen proven victims of Obama's many wiretaps. All right.

I'm just going to scroll down here. First, I have President Trump's tweets. And then they just say this is now being referred to as ObamaGate. It is not unfounded that former President Obama would wiretap President Trump during the election process. This is because he has done this before.

Here is a list of individuals who were wiretapped by the Obama administration. And he says WikiLeaks released the following list on February 23 of Obama administration wiretaps. The U.S. National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting between U.N. Secretary General Bon Ki-moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin.

Obama bugged chief of staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees for long-term interception, targeting his Swiss phone. Obama singled out a director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organization, Jonathan Newman, and targeted his Swiss phone for long-term interceptions and goes on with this list. The article here says: in addition to the above list, we also know that Obama wiretapped various individuals in the U.S. media that were reporting information not flattering to the Obama administration. It is widely known that Obama's Justice Department targeted journalists with wiretaps in 2009.

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So Is this any surprise if these reports are true. No, not to me. Not To me.

So We shall see where things go. Why don't we agree in prayer that light would expose darkness wherever it is, whatever the consequences might be? Let me just look over at Facebook where I asked the question, who do you believe now? Trump or Obama? Did Trump collude with Russia?

Did Obama wiretap Trump? And let's just see some of the responses here on Facebook.

Okay, let's see. David.

Okay, here come the conspiracies. Obama is an Illuminati operative. This collusion goes far beyond this Russian nonsense. Russia is nowhere near as dangerous an enemy as we have now in the power elite. Their mission is globalism and to destroy American sovereignty because it threatens their globalist ideology of utopia.

Uh Another response, well said. David says, Thank you. Good to find people who are also awake. Aaron, try. Trump ties to Russia are all fake, and Russia never hacked the elections.

CNN and the Democratic Party should be held for treason and sedition. Michael, not sure I see the Christian or biblical issue. It's probably time to move on away from the politics. Ugh And since when do we determine truth by vote, Michael? Michael I I didn't ask you.

to determine truth by a vote. I ask what you believe. I'm seeking to understand what you're thinking. what you understand.

Okay? David, another David. Obama could not authorize a wiretap unless there was good reason to. Trump's Russia connections will be his undoing. In response to that, Obama's on Satan's team.

That's all. It's all fake news and we live in a post truth world. Pay no attention to the media. Barb The question is: how did Russia Putin change the outcome of the election? No one ever asked or has answered that question.

Well, there. their charges of how they did and allegations of how they did. But nothing definitive. James, evidence shows Obama was spying on Trump. Jerry, evidence points to Obama.

Let me just look at another Facebook page here and see Obama lies, I believe, Trump on this issue. That's Jim. Isabella. If, a big if Trump colluded with Russia, I believe it was for the benefit and for the good of the free people of America to know what Russia exposed during the election. The truth needed to come out.

Now, if Obama did wiretap Trump, from what I'm hearing is that Obama still didn't have anything concrete against him. Clyde, they all lie. It's called politics. The only difference is which one we accept as truth. Least I think it's a distraction that the media is using to avoid the real issues where the media has been part of the corruption that has grown at every level of our government and lies.

Hey, let me put this out for you. I I don't remember. Republicans stonewalling Obama to the degree that Democrats are seeking to stonewall Trump. I don't remember. the right-wing media as hysterical.

Over Obama, as the left-wing media has been over Trump.

Now, please correct me if you think I'm wrong. Please correct me if you think I'm missing something or having selective memory. And to be perfectly clear, I've focused more on these issues. over the last eight years than in the eight years before that because of being a daily radio host. But that means that through the campaign for presidency of Obama versus Hillary on the Democrat side and everything going on on the Republican side, so from the 2008 elections up until the 2016 elections, I've been more focused on these things.

I don't remember seeing this level of reaction that I would call hysterical. And I don't think, personally, I don't think it's just because of the character and nature of Donald Trump. Yes, there are certain things that he has created on his own because of who he is and how he does things. But if Ted Cruz had been the president, and if Ted Cruz was pushing hard for a strong conservative agenda and was seeking to undo and undermine much of what liberal politicians had done in the last generation, I think the reaction would be equally intense. Maybe, maybe slightly less reckless because Cruz would be more measured in what he would do than Trump would be on the flip side.

Cruz called out Congress as as uh in in very, very strong terms, you know, the Washington establishment using terms like that.

So You know, I would expect crazy, crazy attacks just the same. And it does tell me something about the character. Of those On the left.

Now listen. There are godly Christians. Who's whose political viewpoints and values Put them often more on the left than on the right. I don't mean that they're pro-abortion, God forbid. but many of their views would be more left-leaning.

I recognize that, I understand that. And there are plenty on the right whose moral values I abhor. and plenty of media on their right whose conspiratorial theories and hysterics I differ with. But generally speaking, I don't remember seeing this type of reaction, this hysteria. against Obama as we see against Trump.

We'll be right back. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown.

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Welcome, welcome back to the line of fire. This is Michael Brown, freshly back from Israel. Let's see. Got home about three, four hours ago. Landed in New York after our all-night flight from Tel Aviv.

Landed in New York about... About 11 hours ago. Mind still sharp, everything working well, still coherent by God's grace, and thrilled to be home. But what an amazing, wonderful trip. I'll share some highlights from that shortly.

866-34TRUTH. Let us go to Quincy, Massachusetts. Tim, welcome to the line of fire. Hey, how's it going? Doing very well, Tim.

All right. I Looking at uh the issue where there's an accusation against uh former uh uh president uh Obama and uh Uh current. Uh president. Trump I I I think Um we need to take uh some of the emotion out of The picture. And I think we need to take some of the bias out of the picture.

And I I don't Those Highlight. Can't be Uh review. They need to be, sir. Yeah. Yes.

A at the end of the day, uh we we you know, if what of if what has been claimed, the claim that has been made, the accusation against uh the Obama administration is true, then that is a threat to uh some of our liberty freedoms. And vice and the same goes for Uh if the accusations against uh The current president is true. And at the end of the day, keep America safe, uh to keep America strong and on the path that uh you know, God expects us to be it. Yeah, and Tim, you know, of course you're right. And I've tried to give some analysis and insight, but the last thing I would claim is that I'm doing it in a totally unbiased way.

But look, I have questions in all directions. Let's just say I'm less biased than many. But I'm certainly not unbiased. My concern, Tim, is that I don't know if I trust. Congress or Department of Justice or FBI or CIA, I don't know who, or NSA, I mean, who knows how everything works.

I'm sure I'm mentioning some that are a bit irrelevant in this, but I don't know that there's the ability. To have an independent, trustworthy investigation. It's like, who do you ask? You know what I'm saying? It's, it's, it's, uh, I hope we can do it.

But even even with FBI Director Comey, I mean, where is he from one day to the next? And is he trustworthy or untrustworthy?

Now he's calling on the Department of Justice to refute Donald Trump's charges. And he's weighing in, and why things are being politicized. Is this one loyal to Obama? Is this one loyal to Trump?

So it's. I I think the loyalty card has been played overflow. And I I I I think it's time for If Uh traditionally uh Yeah. Um hold those opposite. uh try to be uh apolitical.

And Mm-hmm. that's our expectation. Our expectation is that if we have a special prosecutor, that prosecution that prosecutor has an apolitical position. Yes. For neither Party in particular.

And it's for uh the the um uh is is doing this uh on behalf of the American people. Yeah, just to jump in, Tim. 100% right. that person by definition should be apolitical. must be apolitical.

There should be... Enough Evidence either way. that if the person is not apolitical, it will be seen. In other words, it's like you have a referee who's biased in a football game.

Well, everything is so scrutinized, and with all the camera angles and instant replay, if that person. was not being unbiased, in that sense, apolitical. they would be exposed.

So Tim, may what you're saying happen? And may God bring the truth to light, whether it hurts the Trump administration, the Obama administration, the trust of the American people. Let the truth come to light where there's corruption, where there's dishonesty, where there's misunderstanding, where there's honest mistake. Let the truth come to light. Tim, I'm with you step for step.

Thank you for calling. And these are challenging days. not to be partisan. These are challenging days, not to be emotional. As God's people, let's do our best to step back.

Especially listen to the to fellow believers and friends that see things differently than you do. Do your best to give them a hearing. All right, thank you. 866-348-7884. By the way, In the next hour.

I am going to talk about the latest Disney movie, Beauty and the Beast. and whether we should boycott. Or should we boycott Disney in general, or that movie in particular? Where do we stand on that? I want to get into that discussion with you, among some other things, but.

Suffice it to say, by God's grace, were making an impact around the world. in Israel. around the world. in Israel. It's not just a matter of going to different countries, and when I'm in different countries, people coming up to me with tears.

thanking me for materials. thanking me for providing them with daily bread. Coming up to me with tears and thanking me for being a voice. And, friends, this is a joint effort. We do this together, this is a team effort.

I may be in that sense the point of the spear. or the tip of the battering ram, but it's a joint effort. Because someone's got it. take that battering RAM and ram it. into that wall, even if my calling is for my head to be the tip of the battery ram that hits that wall.

But by God's grace, we're making an impact around the world. I can't tell you how many people come up to me and tell me around the world they listen to the line of fire, which means if it's out of the United States, they're listening online or by podcast. How many say, hey, I remember being in the Faroe Islands last January, January of last year, I should say, and a couple telling me, the wife said, yeah, the moment my husband gets home from work, we sit down and we start watching your YouTube videos. And that's so meaningful. And thank you.

Thank you for your open hearts and your desire to learn truth. And In fact, on this trip, one couple, the last night, we were sitting and having dinner at some long tables at a nice restaurant in Jaffa, Mediterranean restaurant, before heading to the airport to fly out. And when I'd just be chatting about something, it could be, you know, could I have some more of that salad, please? This couple just got their attention because they said they're so used to when I'm on the radio, if they're with family, whatever, they're on the radio, Dr. Brown's talking now.

So I, hey, guys, if you're listening now, either live or my podcast, that was very sweet and I do appreciate it dearly.

So, friends. The message is getting out.

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find out more. My bottom line tonight. regardless of who is and is not lying in the government today. The truth. will come to light.

Well, I just flew in from Israel a few hours ago, and I am ready to go, what in the world is going on with the White House, with the Obama administration? How do we separate truth from fiction? That and a lot more right here. U It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

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What a joy to be back in my home studio, sitting with all of you. Just got in from Israel a few hours ago, so in the early hours of this morning, and thrilled to be with you. But I have to say, it was awesome broadcasting live from Israel. Five nights. In fact, we went to Israel and back and didn't miss a day of broadcasting.

So, absolutely a joy to do that. And what a joy to have so many of our dear listeners with us.

Some came every night and others different nights from our tour group. That was really sweet. I love having our little live audience and getting to do some impromptu interviews. And if you missed any of the shows, we had great shows. We had great interviews.

We got great feedback from our tour group.

So make sure you go to thelineoffire.org, just click on listen, and you can listen to all five of last week's shows. And of course, you can subscribe by podcast to make sure that you don't miss a single show. 866-348-7884. Yeah, we're going to talk more about what's happening in the government. Yes, I want to talk about a Disney movie and should Christians boycott the movie or boycott Disney or the boycotts even work.

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With that, I am diving right into our phones with Chris from Rock Hill, South Carolina. Thanks for calling the line of fire. Yeah, hey. Yeah. I don't know what, um how to say this, but, you know, it just really kind of, you know, and I don't want to come out hard, but, you know, it burns me up how people who call themselves Christians, you know, First of all, I don't think Well wha what what burns you up, sir?

About calling uh Donald Trump who could some I think that's a good idea. you know.

Alright, so it upsets you for someone, it really upsets you for someone that call themselves a creep. And they support President Trump. Yeah, unpack that for me, Chris. Why do you feel that way? I mean, you look at all that Trump did, I mean, you know, and all the things he said, and yet you know, talking about grabbing women on their private parts and stuff like that and then But oh no, he's a you know, whole he's just he's against abortion, he's against, you know, I mean, I feel like Obama was more of a Christian than Trump would ever be.

So let me ask this, Chris. The comments he made over a decade ago were horrific, were inexcusable, but he's repudiated them. He's apologized for them. And he seems to be a different man in many ways. I mean, he's become much more conservative in his values.

But what about, and by the way, I'm not challenging you, sir. What about President Trump? as president upsets you that you feel that Christians can't support.

Well, you know I know I might have different views of Christianity than you do too, you know. I mean, you know, I don't consider myself, you know, a diehard conservative or a liberal, but I just feel that you know Um Well, tell you what, let me take a quick break here, Chris. We come back. Just think of it during the break. I assume you were a Bible.

Believing follower of Jesus. You don't consider yourself conservative or liberal, but you believe the Bible is God's Word. I'm hoping you. Say that. What would be the biggest reasons right now you feel that a Christian couldn't support Trump, right now as president?

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Welcome back, friends, to the line of fire. A bunch of things I do want to talk with you about today. First hour, I spent a good amount of time looking at the different sides to the wiretapping accusations from President Trump and the Russia collusion accusations against President Trump. We'll come back to that in a bit as well. But Chris, when I saw the subject matter of your call, I wanted to bring you right up.

Someone tweeted earlier to me saying that no one listens to me because I support Donald Trump.

Now, in point of fact, I've taken issue with President Trump over different things and took a lot of issue with candidate Trump, but I'm certainly more on his side than against him right now. And thinking that he could do a lot of good. But I know a lot of folks feel the way you do, Chris, that you can't be a Christian and support someone like him. And many say, hey, yeah, so go ahead. Oil.

You know, and I don't claim to th you know, I just know that he's supposedly never Mm-hmm. claim to be a Christian or you know, and I don't you know, I have some things, you know, Partly. A lot of what I feel is that you know, I hear people like you talk about more of less, you know, like abortion and stuff like that, like and I'm, you know, know that abortion is wrong and stuff like that, but I just feel that you know, maybe that pol that Christians to some extent should stay out of politics. More layers. and just work on trying to get people, you know, 'Cause I mean it's people you know, when I hear people like you or my ministers talk about, you know, and they s you know, it makes me want to turn my back on.

I don't consider myself, you know, I don't look at it. Ha hang on, Chris.

So so let me ask you a question. Uh i if if I said to you Okay, let's say God forbid you had a situation, you're a grandparent, right? And God forbid you have a grandchild. that is kidnapped and sold into sex slavery by human traffickers. And you begin to find out there's an epidemic of this.

uh in in your county That this is happening right under our noses. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

Okay, now, so this utter horror, something mind-boggling beyond anything we could imagine or relate to, happens. And you tell your pastor, Pastor, this thing's going on right under our noses here. You know, the Bible tells us to have compassion on the orphan, on the widow. The Bible calls us to help the needy. The Bible calls us to stand for justice.

The Bible calls us to rescue those who are perishing. Pastor, can we do something about it? And he says, no, I stay out of politics. I just major on leading people to Jesus. Wouldn't that seem hypocritical?

Maybe. I mean All right, so let's take it a step further. Once we lead someone to Jesus, Don't they live differently? I agree we can be too politicized. I agree.

99%, or let's say the vast majority of what you're going to hear on Christian radio is preaching and teaching from the Bible, edifying believers, reaching out to the lost. And here and there, you hear a show like this, which also talks about political things. But in point of fact, it is the minority, the great minority of Christian broadcasting that even addresses these concerns.

So, Chris, I'm not going to argue with you about Christians and Donald Trump. I respect you having that position, and I understand the major issues you have with President Trump. But I just encourage you to. Consider. If God cared, say during times of slavery, didn't God care about that?

If abortion is babies being killed in the womb, doesn't God care about that? If, look at it from this angle. If we don't speak up. If we don't act. that in point of fact, judgment will come on us.

That affects everybody. It could affect our whole nation.

So don't we need to speak and act? Yes. Put prayer first. Holy Living first, Great Commission first, but I see them all completely interfacing with social issues, with justice issues. But, Chris, thank you.

for weighing in. I appreciate it. 866-348-7884. So if you're just joining us now, my quick summary of where I'm at with. the wiretapping charges of the president against the Obama administration.

Number one, I don't think that Donald Trump would. make these accusations if he had absolutely no information. I find that A bit Bit hard to believe.

However, because he has been reckless in other things he said publicly and tweet it and paint it with too broad a brush, I can't say for sure that he must have evidence. Is there overwhelming evidence, as Mark Levin and others have argued, and even evidence from left-wing sources that have reported on these things for some months now? It could well be. But just based on the President's tweets, I would like to think that the sitting President is not going to make an accusation that is so outrageous and outlandish and extreme that he'd make it without any support.

However, because he has been reckless in some of his speaking up to now, I still have to take it all with a grain of salt. How do I feel about the denials from those within the Obama administration? I feel they have been tepid. You say, no, they've been categorical. I don't think they've been categorical.

I think they have been carefully worded so as to say, well, we weren't directly involved, but can speak for others. I think there's evidence for that. And absolutely don't believe the Obama administration when they say, no, we'd never do anything like that. I don't necessarily believe that Donald Trump wouldn't do anything like that, or that George Bush wouldn't have done anything like that, or Bill Clinton, or George W. Bush before him, or down the list.

I don't know what our government would and wouldn't do. And I think that there is a lot that would surprise us. And I don't trust right now. I don't trust. The powers that be in control of the government.

To do anything in a totally impartial way right now because there's so much of a battle going on. You don't know who's secretly on one side or the other, who's publicly on one side, or the. Other. Mm-hmm. 8663 For truth, the number to call.

What's your take? Do you believe Donald Trump? Do you believe President Obama? Do you believe the Russians? Who do you believe?

866-34-TRUTH. Let's go to Mark in Raleigh, North Carolina. Thanks for calling the line of fire. Hi, Doctor. Michael Brown, how are you doing?

Doing very well. Thanks.

So I just wanted to point out that there is a pattern of I'd like to say subconscious bias on the conservative side. That has given a pass to somebody like Donald Trump, which has basically. allowed people to accept someone who has lowered the lowered the standards of the office of the Presidency. to such childish levels that nobody for one second has asked themselves in what history of the United States has the Presidency been this chaotic. That's one thing.

Yeah, all right, so let me respond to that first. When you say no one's asked, I think plenty of people are asking. But the answer to your question is to why someone would Trust him is because he's exposed all kinds of junk. He's exposed extraordinary bias on the left wing. He's exposed fake news on the left wing.

He's exposed an extraordinary level of of uh bias and animus in the Democrat Party.

So sure, he's done a lot of things that I think are regrettable the way he's done them and immature or take away from the office of the President, for sure. But I say he's exposed a whole lot of junk, maybe more than any President we've had in decades. And this what you just said goes back to what I was talking about regarding the bias. But let me say this, the bias is also part of the problem why there is a deep chasm in the United States between liberals and conservatives, which is actually quite dangerous for the future of the country. But let me Yeah, I agree.

I agree. And it's extreme on both sides, and it's getting dangerously wider.

So I agree with you on that. Correct. But let me just kinda caveat uh just say one more thing.

So You say Donald Trump has uncovered a number of things. But keep in mind that this is the same man who basically casually makes ridiculous accusations and with enough momentum can convince a large number of people to believe that the sky is purple. Remember when you have a music And and the media, sir, day and night. CNN, New York Times, MSNBC, Washington Post, Time, News, whoever. They are shaping people's thinking in scary ways.

Look, I had a friend that was a longtime CNN viewer that really did not like Fox News, said, I can't watch CNN anymore. They are so biased. Everything they do is just out to get Trump. And the person said, I have to go to Fox now to try to get more balanced views.

So here's what disturbs me, Mark. I feel I can see both sides of things, but it seems to me as if you have been so biased against Trump and perhaps brainwashed. By secular media, that you're having a problem seeing both sides. That concerns me. But tell you what, I'm going to give you an opportunity to respond.

We got a break. I'm going to give you an opportunity to respond. on the other side of the brake, alright?

So that's my concern. I think I can see both sides, both issues. Doesn't feel to me Like you can. Tell me I'm wrong. We'll be right back.

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Thanks, friends, for joining us. Just having a conversation with Mark from Raleigh, North Carolina, about Trusting President Trump, trusting the media and where it goes. And I just told our caller that based on statements he's making, which seemed so generalized and sweeping, it seems to me as if he's been so influenced by the media or just by his own thinking that he can't see both sides of the equation.

So, Mark, obviously, take exception to that.

So, back to you, sir. Sure.

So I'd like to first exonerate myself from the claim that I'm Manipulated by the media by saying that when the terrorist attack happened. was in Germany or France and generally the liberal uh side of the spectrum. Um whether to fully attack by defending that it wasn't necessarily Jerusalem. I was I I actually agreed with Trump. when to more or less admitted that the world has to come together to face and deal with the Radical nature, or they're just the aggressive nature of Islam.

So I I I want to point out that I I try to be as objective when I do when I my worldview because If you're not, you can easily be manipulated by others who have an agenda. All right, I agree. That's not to say that I'm not human and I don't. succumb to some sort of bias, but I try my best to avoid that. Got it.

But let me go ahead and say one thing.

So. just from listening to your talk, I quickly realized that the chasm I mentioned earlier might be very difficult to fix because Because of the level of conviction on both sides when they've talked, right?

So. I'm speaking with some self some level of conviction here. Are you speaking with With some level of conviction, and we both have evidence to the contrary on both sides. Right, but the difference is, Mark. that I'm quite willing.

to say, here's where I have questions about President Trump. Here's where I have questions about the media. Here's where I lean towards one. Here's where I lean towards the other, where you are making sweeping statements, one of which you immediately retracted, but sweeping statements that it's if why would people believe Trump with all this evidence against him saying, well, there's all this evidence against the media, and there's all this evidence that he has exposed things, that he has. Why do you think so many people are rallying around him despite the flaws and the faults?

They're rallying around him because they're saying, at last, someone's saying the emperor has no clothes. At last, someone's exposing this. I'm just looking at. report on MRC TV.org that Media, according to a recent study by Media Research Center, the overall majority of media coverage for President Trump's first 30 days was 88%. Hostile.

Okay, and this was only looking at NBC, ABC, and CBS, so not looking at CNN.

So this is the. NBC, ABC, CBS. Hostile coverage 88% of the time. You're not telling me that shapes opinion more than Donald Trump's tweets? Right, okay.

Just kinda do me the favor and assume that I I am capable of forming my own opinions. But let me say one thing. My comment. The comments you say are generally sweeping, are based on how this man has handled himself. his candor and his behavior.

uh throughout the election and up to today. Um We can both agree we've never met a president. that has behaved in the way Trump has behaved. And there's something about his behavior that seems to support The general claims that this man is very dishonest. Consider this.

He's the first person who came up with He's the person who championed that story that Obama was an American. And let's let let me say one thing to you. All right, all right, all right, all right, or t tell you what tell you what ha ha ha I've given you a lot of time. I have, okay, just in terms of talk, radio, and time that we normally interact with callers.

Now we're going down a larger path than I want to pursue right here. But but listen. There were people. who genuinely believe There was reason to question. where President Obama was born.

I never bought into it, but I never investigated it. I know people who are sober, respectable people. capable of doing serious research. Who to this day Believe. that President Obama was not legitimately born in Hawaii but was born in Kenya.

And say to deny is to deny the obvious.

So The fact that everyone dismissed it as the birth of conspiracy. Look, there. Right now, what's being said about Donald Trump colluding with Russia to help steal the election from the Democrats. from what I understand, that has less support Then the birth is theory. And the birther accusations.

So no, I've never been part of the Obama birth conspiracy or that he's a secret Muslim or that he's secretly gay or whatever accusations against Michelle that I'm going to repeat, former first lady, Michelle Obama. I've never run into any of those.

However, the fact that people raise them I understand why. Yes, some raised them out of bias because they didn't like the man.

Some raised it as a way to undercut him potentially being the president because they were so against his policies. Perhaps for some it was racist as well. Saying, well, he's a Kenyan, he's African, you know, whatever. But I understand why they raise them.

So all that to say, Mark. I think that in this case You have good reason. to question what Donald Trump tweets. You have good reason to be suspicious. You have good reason to say he has acted recklessly.

As president, In terms of, you know, you're president of the United States and you're tweeting out that you don't like someone's impersonation for you on Saturday Night Live. Yeah, I. I don't like any of that, sir. Don't like any of it. On the other hand, The whole idea of him being a divine wrecking ball.

To expose and demolish everything PC. Remember, wrecking ball can do a lot of harm, a lot of good. Put it in that context and then process it accordingly. But thank you for the conversation, and I accept. That you're doing your best to be unbiased.

Same with me. Do I claim to be perfectly unbiased? Not a chance. Not a chance. So we're both candid about that.

All right, thank you for the call. And the dialogue, I trust, we'll talk again. 866-34TRUTH. We come back, as soon as we come back, I want to tell you a really neat story from. from Israel.

And we'll give away a free book on the other side of the break. And yeah, tell you what, I'll save everything Israel-related for the other side of the break. Was there something else I wanted to get into? Yeah, tell you what. I didn't know about this.

Maybe it was widely reported in the news. I just missed it being in Israel. But I was sent a video from St. Louis where it's one of the three cemeteries that was vandalized in the last two weeks, Jewish Cemeteries, Philadelphia, St. Louis, New York.

and gravestones overturned and other atrocities committed. And there was a line as far as the eye could see of people that showed up, men, women, and children, whole families with all kinds of equipment to clean up the cemetery. to say, hey, you vandalized the Jewish cemetery, you attack all of us. It was moving to see, it was powerful to see. And as much as we see a rising tide of anti-Semitism in America, it's a blessing to see that because you can be absolutely sure a whole lot of people on that line, I'd be curious to have the percentage, but a whole lot of people on that line were not Jewish.

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Welcome, welcome to the line of fire, 866-348-7884. I am freshly back from Israel with some great stories to share with you, and we will talk more about what is happening in the political and social world around us. 866-388-8488-8484-8484- 348-7884 is the number to call. All right, so. Let me share a story with you from Israel.

And then I want to give away a free book. The last couple of hours of the trip before we got on the bus to drive to Jaffa for our final meal with our tour group and then from there to the airport to fly home, There must have been between 10 and 12 people. They come up to me in Jerusalem that recognized me, either recognized my voice when they heard me talking to someone, or recognized my faces in most of the cases. And a number had some really neat things to share. And one encounter was especially precious to me, and you'll understand why in a moment.

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Call number six, you get a free book sent to you. Trust me, you'll be blessed by the book. We're in Jerusalem. We were a little late in our schedule. We were sitting.

Waiting to, we had been in a bookstore where a gentleman gave a presentation, Orthodox Jewish bookstore, and then after that, we were going to Folks were still buying things and then from there, not a bookstore, a shop with all kinds of really, really neat things.

So we were going to go from there. And we're a little bit behind schedule. I was sitting, chatting with some of our folks when a young man comes up to me. And he's an Orthodox Jew. I mean, you can tell by the garb and the whole bit, he's an Orthodox Jew.

But Um it didn't look quite Like other Orthodox Jews, you see, there are many different varieties and backgrounds and outfits and so on, but. Suffice it to say, suffice it to say that we started chatting. Dr. Dr. Michael Brown, yeah.

By the way, we do have a winner. Do you have a winner?

Sometimes I forget to announce that. But we do have a winner. Thank you for your calls. What happened was He told me that he was raised in a Christian home, but was never truly Christian. raised in a Christian home, never truly Christian, and converted to Orthodox Judaism some years ago, mentioned one particular rabbi he really follows, and because that rabbi and I debated years back, he's watched my debates, and we had a very nice talk, seems to be a very sincere young man.

I encouraged him to keep on his journey, that there may be more to it than he realizes, to keep seeking God with an open heart and an open mind. And he told me how he watches my debates and different materials and talks and things like that. And he does it together with his Orthodox Jewish friends. that together they watch these things and so on. And some come from his background, converts to Orthodox Judaism, others raised within Orthodoxy.

And so I said to when he left, I told him I wanted to get some free materials to him. And when he left, we then went to pray for him. I just turned to some of the folks. I said, hey, let's pray for this young man, some of the folks on our tour. And no sooner did we finish praying than he came walking back over and said, hey, my friends won't believe it that I saw you unless I take a picture.

So we took a picture together. And, you know, he's a very sincere young man, and I trust as he continues to seek God with an honest heart that God will reveal this truth to him about Jesus. being the Messiah of Israel. It doesn't mean he can't live a traditional Jewish lifestyle. It means it will be with a dynamic beyond anything he's known, a reality beyond anything he's known.

And God will sort that out for him as well. But it's just, it's another reminder that by God's grace, we're touching people. We're reaching people around the world, and our Jewish outreach materials, friends, are reaching Jewish people in Israel. in Jerusalem. and we're about to have far and away Can I say 100 to 1, 1,000 to 1?

10,000 to 1? Far and away the greatest expansion of our outreach to Jewish people in Israel in our ministry's history. 100,000 to one? Really? He gave the world O God of burning, cleansing flame.

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You know, it's interesting. A gentleman called earlier and said he doesn't know how anyone could be a Christian and support Donald Trump, and we should get away from politics, especially from the pulpit. It's interesting when I asked him what if some... A horrific tragedy happened to him through someone in his family or grandchild being kidnapped by human traffickers. And then he turned to his pastor and said, Pastor, we have an epidemic of this right here in our county.

We didn't know anything about it. We need to do something about it. And the pastor said, We should stay out of politics. I wonder how he'd respond to that.

So we're dealing with life and death issues like abortion and other things like that, like going to war or not. Do we stay out of that as believers? Do we not get involved? But can we be loyal to the Lord without having our biases such that we become compromised? Can we be loyal to the Lord, I should say, excuse me, and not have political biases that compromise our devotion to the Lord in a pure way?

What I mean is, we get so caught up with politics, we get so caught up with viewpoints. Think of sports. Think if you're passionate for one team versus another team. You're not impartial.

So your allegiance to the Lord doesn't necessarily affect that because it's just a game. But when it's with politics and things like that, then it's very easy to mistake our political view with God's view on every point, our political view with a righteous view, a biblical view on every point, and often it's mixed. And that's where we must step higher. And that's my constant challenge to all of us: to step higher, not to not have convictions, not to not have viewpoints, but. But To move in a way where we do our best to be sober-minded.

And look at everything. If you voted for President Trump, you don't have to defend everything he does. If you voted for President Obama, you don't have to defend everything he does. or always criticize Obama or always criticize Trump. Let's step back and evaluate each thing as it comes down the pike.

And right now we're going to. Extraordinary situation where there are massive accusations coming both ways: that the Trump administration colluded with Russia to steal the elections. or that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump. These are extraordinary accusations both ways. And my prayer is that the truth would come to light regardless.

of the cost or consequence, because ultimately it's best. To have the truth. Let's go to Cambridge, Massachusetts. John, welcome to the line of fire. Yes, hi.

Thank you for taking my call tonight. You bet. Doing good, thanks. Yeah, yeah. I've just um yeah, I've I retired from Harvard University and I'm just watching this escalate to a point where it's just Absolutely unbelievable.

It's just uh something else. But there was a program on Mark Levine, I believe his name. was in uh He ended up Hello? Yeah. Yeah, he says the evidence is overwhelming and he's using all left-wing sources for it.

Yeah, I think there absolutely is something to the accusations. I just because of Donald Trump's Habit of sometimes reckless communication and overstating things. I'm taking everything with a grain of salt. But it seems to me that there is strong evidence. Yes, sir.

Yes, and I what I also find, Dr. Brown, really interesting is that this year, on august twenty third, there's going to be a total eclipse that's coming across this country, literally dividing the country in half, much like the political situation that's going on, entering, I believe, in Oregon, cutting across the country and leaving South Carolina. And the last time an eclipse of that magnitude that split the country in half, I found this really interesting, was in seventeen seventy six. I thought that was really interesting. Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, I mean, I haven't looked into that, but definitely interesting. Yeah, check it out. It is just absolutely. Amazing. But, anyways, thank you.

Keep up the good work. I listen to you every day, and God bless you. Thank you, John. I appreciate that. 866-348-7884.

By the way, I believe that God can get our attention through natural phenomenon, like an eclipse. In other words, I'm not saying, oh, let's just say everything said is exactly accurate. Oh, that's God showing us this and that.

Sometimes it's just symbolic of something. It gets our attention, right? That's all. 866-34-TRUTH will go to. No, we won't.

And you know what? Howard, it's not bad that I couldn't take that call because I couldn't figure out how to pronounce that caller's name. And I was going to stumble over that for a moment.

So... There you have it. All right, um one interesting result. One interesting result. Because of the Department of Justice withdrawing the guidelines of the Obama administration that said that schools needed to let a child that identified as the opposite of their biological sex use the bathroom, locker room of their choice.

That a case in Virginia now has been sent back by the Supreme Court. to the uh lower court. And here's what happened, looking at a report on the Washington Post. There's a case of of a a child in the school who identifies as the opposite of the child's biological sex. And Uh so this is a a girl who identifies as a boy.

was banned from using the boys' restroom by the Gloucester County School Board, and under the President President Obama's guidelines, Under his guidelines, then this put forth aggressively by the Department of Justice, the school discriminated against this child. All right. Even if the school said, hey, we've got a private facility you can use, or there's a handicap facility you can use, or a faculty facility you can use, no. How to use the boys, even if the school had gone through all those things. And the school said, No, you can't because you're a biological female, and we don't like it, or students don't like it, or parents don't like it.

So the court ruled in favor. of the 17-year-old who goes by the name of Gavin Grimm.

So the justices, Supreme Court justices, were scheduled to hear the case later this month, Robert Barnes reports in the Post. But after the government's position changed, the courts of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit should reconsider the dispute between the county and the child, this girl who identifies as a boy. And as always, my heart goes out to children who struggle in these ways, as always. I desire for them to find wholeness.

As always, I don't believe their struggles should be imposed. on everyone else, nor should this be part of a larger war on gender.

So uh The article says in what had been a big victory for Grimm and the transgender movement, the Fourth Circuit had relied on the government's guidance that schools should let transgender students use the bathroom that corresponds with the student's gender identity.

So the Trump administration withdrew that guidance, which was issued by the Obama administration. When the case returns to the Fourth Circuit, the court will consider whether Title IX's prohibition of discrimination on the basis of sex. Extends to gender identity. It never intended to, it never intended to. Gender identity was not the question with Title IX.

If you're not familiar with Title IX, here's about the biggest thing that Title IX did. It enabled girls to be girls. And to have representation in sports and things like that, have programs that would be girls' programs, say in the college setting, the high school setting, that That female participation in sports and recognition of female sports and development blossomed greatly as a result of that. And it's all based on biological sex, never had to do with gender identity any more than if LeBron James identified as a woman tomorrow, the WNBA would welcome him as the greatest superstar in women's basketball history. That is never the purpose.

I'm using that as a. Different analogy here to get the point across.

So So In short, The ruling of the court was based on the Obama guidelines that schools should let transgender students use the bathroom that corresponds with the student's gender identity.

Now that that is not the guideline.

Now that the Department of Justice has withdrawn that guideline. and let states decide this objectively on their own. Without the pressure, the wrongful pressure of the Obama administration.

Now, You're talking about something very, very different, and it'll be interesting to see how the court now rules. And to me, if they were relying on the Obama administration's guidelines, then that, in fact, would turn things the opposite way now. And they could rule based on just the merits of the case without those guidelines. And we shall see. I don't know the composition of the court.

I don't know off the top of my head what the vote was. But one interesting thing, The article continues. That the delay in Supreme Court consideration of the issue most likely means that it will do so.

So let's see, this case comes back to the Supreme Court with a full nine-member court. Trump has nominated Judge Neil Gorsuch to fill the seat left empty from one year after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. And Interestingly, as well, I was just reading an article by some conservative lawyers, and they feel very good about Justice Gorsuch as far as religious liberty cases. When he gave examples of the most important cases that he's ruled on to Congress, I think what three out of ten were cases that were religious liberty cases, and he ruled the way we would want him to rule. You say, Yeah, but the New York Times put something out in expose saying that his views are probably pro-homosexual, pro-homosexual marriage, and things like that, and you should beware of him.

And then a family. Rights activists said, what are you talking about? Why would the New York Times Say something like that to sink him. If that was the case, then they wouldn't say anything because they'd want him in. because he'd end up siding uh on the uh on the left leaning way on these issues.

So that was an interesting observation as well. Shall see. Right back with your calls. Shake the nation, change the world. Change the world.

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Thanks, friends, for joining us on the line of fire, 866-348-7884. You know, just getting back from Israel early this morning, and with a little less than 12. 12 hours ago, our plane landed in JFK, so 4-something in the morning, and got to rest in a lounge a little bit, and then had one more flight home and rested a bit at home, and fresh and ready for radio now. And with everything, the flurry of everything going on and getting ready for radio today, I failed to even address the new executive order from President Trump in terms of banning certain refugees from certain countries until we have better vetting in place.

So we'll weigh in on that more tomorrow. A headline, though, on Breitbart.com says Trump executive order mandates reports on honor killings committed by migrants.

So there'll be a lot to talk about. Another report there on Breitbart, strongly conservative website. Rick Perry's energy policies pro-environment, not pro-climate change. We'll get to that. As it comes up, as we discuss some of these things, and whether or not to boycott Disney.

whether we should boycott Disney over their latest movie, and this with an overt gay theme with one of the characters. Let's just say this, whether boycotts work or not. In conscience, you can't take your kids to movies like that. Conscience, you can't expose your kids to more propaganda like that. And if in conscience you see Disney putting out more and more things like that, be it on the Disney channel on T V, which they've done and now in Popular Kids movies, and to me it's not a matter of whether you're trying to hurt them, it's just a matter of conscience.

It's like, can't give them my business. That's what it boils down to for me. Maybe I'll I'll write something on that as well. 866-348-7884. Uh let's go to Baja, California.

Barbara, is this THE BARBARA from Baja? I love you, Dr. Brown. Thank you. All right.

I remember you from Oceanside, California, meeting you face to face a couple of weeks ago. Absolutely. Doc, I just wanted to comment the caller that couldn't understand how a Christian could vote for Donald Trump.

Well, I am a Christian. I voted for Donald Trump. I'm African American. I'm a retired military. I'm a disabled vet.

I'm all those things that you talk about that's going on in our country today. What shocked me. Dr. Brown, is how Christians cannot see it. They can't see it.

Tell me I'm wrong. You have to tell me I'm wrong because the other side can't see it.

So I say to myself, well, When is the last time God put an Orthodox Jew in the White House? I say to myself, Lord, when is the, come on now, if we don't see God in this, If we don't see God in it, and if we don't see the enemy, Barack Obama? Are we kidding? I'm an African-American female, retired, disabled, vet. There is no way I could have voted for Barack Obama.

Could we not see it? God shows us. We're not watching and we're not praying, but we need to be because we are confused. We think the other side is going to be, oh my goodness. God's word is true.

Woo. If we have Christians that even think that there is such a thing as a more liberal Now I have heard of moral conservative stocks. But I have never heard of a moral liberal. Have you? Uh hey, do me one do me one favor.

Explain to me the comment about the the Orthodox Jew. That what you meant by that we've never had an Orthodox Jew. as our president. No, not as our president, but in the White House. Who is his sidekick in the White House?

Oh, oh, I'm sorry. I got you the exact opposite. My bad. My bad. Got you, got you, got you.

All clear. All clear. You were saying the opposite. Look, you have someone right there, an Orthodox Jew, with President Trump. Hey, listen, Barbara.

Yes. Yeah, I I believe that there are liberals that that care about many issues, social justice and Righteousness that have a certain morality that's very strong, and yet, because they do not have the right presuppositions about life, about family, and they're lacking certain biblical Bases that the morals will be compromised. There are some conservatives who are still only moral people, but they're more patriotic than biblical, and so then it's kind of a blind support. But listen, Barbara, ultimately. There's a spiritual battle going on, and that's what we have to focus on.

And you are so right. Ultimately, there is a challenge we are facing that is a. life and death challenge for the nation, whether you're Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, let's recognize what's happening. Let's wake up to the reality. And let's let's get with God's program.

And friends, you'd be delighted to meet Barbara. One of the more enthusiastic encounters I had when she met me at our book table at Oceanside. And what a great testimony of healing from cancer. And how our messages and teachings on healing were right with her through that valley. Thank you, dear sister.

I deeply appreciate the call. All right. 866-342DRI. Yeah, time for one more call. Tricia, no, no, I was going to go to Tricia in Houston.

Yeah, Mark Levin has presented what he says is overwhelming evidence. overwhelming evidence. for the Trump administration or the Trump candidacy being wiretapped by the Obama administration. And again, if true, none of it would surprise me. But if you missed what I said earlier, It's because I'm not surprised.

if the government does things that would outrage us and shock us. I I wasn't surprised when Accusations from Eric Snowden. and and other leaks, you know, wiki leaks, whatever. Expose this group or that group, or NSA is doing this or that, or snooping on. Nothing surprises me.

Now, on the one hand, I live my life. As if I'm living my life before God.

So He knows everything. He knows every thought. There are no secrets.

So that's a nice way to live. You know, live your life before a God who sees all. There's an old Jewish saying, a couple thousand years old: you know, know the one before whom you stand, you know, a seeing eye and a hearing ear, and a judge that's going to bring everything into account.

So that's how we live. And Nancy and I have talked about, yeah, we have private conversations like every couple does. You talk about things in private and situations, difficult situations, and things that affect people's lives. And, you know, it's obviously private conversations. But what we do, we still do in a way that's honoring to God.

When I journal things, I journal things in a way that's honoring to God. When I pray privately, I don't pray in ways that if I was praying for you, you'd be mortified to hear it. Like, what kind of person is there? I pray prayers that I pray as much as I can in the sight of God before a Creator who knows everything. And in that sense, I'm just dust without him.

That being said, If the NSA was looking in on my conversations or my emails, even to Nancy, I wouldn't be like, oh no, they've exposed because they're not all these skeletons in the closet that are going to be exposed. And the point is, we walk in the light, we live in the light. But that being said, that being said, Wouldn't surprise me if there's a whole lot more surveilling of a whole lot of us going on. Friends, join us today. We are touching people around the world, especially in Israel, and your support is vital.

Make sure, take a minute, trust me, go to thelineoffire.org, find out what comes your way this month as a supporter, as a torchbearer. My bottom line today, walk in the light of God. Yeah.